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Giants and the Cap

afann : 3/8/2018 12:50 pm
Can the Giants do what the stealers did with Brown, convert his base salary to a bonus to free up room for the cap? Are there restrictions when a team does this? I am not sure how all this works so maybe someone knows...thanks
The Giants can do this to a lot of different players  
Chip : 3/8/2018 1:51 pm : link
It is the Cowboy way and they ended up losing Demarcus Ware and possibly Dez. It is how the boys get under the cap every year and eventually it costs them a player. DG has to realize Collins and Beckham will need to get paid. It is a fine line with the cap.
RE: The Giants can do this to a lot of different players  
RetroJint : 3/8/2018 2:34 pm : link
In comment 13855206 Chip said:
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It is the Cowboy way and they ended up losing Demarcus Ware and possibly Dez. It is how the boys get under the cap every year and eventually it costs them a player. DG has to realize Collins and Beckham will need to get paid. It is a fine line with the cap.

2 points : 1 The Cowboys havenít lost anybody that they wanted to retain. Dez Bryant canít run anymore so they might let him go. 2 The Giantsí conservative , accounting -correct interpretation of the cap has caused them to lose more players than Dallas. It also cost Coughlin dearly, one of the best coaches in the game, who was basically starved out to the door .
Yeah, please get creative -in a hurry . This roster blows .
I have heard a few times from Abrams and Gettlemen that the cap  
Rjanyg : 3/8/2018 2:47 pm : link
won't prevent the Giants from signing players. They have a plan and while we all would love for NYG to have $60 Mill to spend, they don't. So, in the next 3-5 days we can expect a couple of releases, a couple of restructures and maybe some outright paycuts. Then come next Wednesday we will see just how this plan will play out.
Converting a base salary to a bonus is just  
Scyber : 3/8/2018 3:02 pm : link
pushing the can down the road. It spreads the cap hit over a few extra years, but makes it harder to cut that person in the next couple of years. It is a strategy that can work, but eventually you will need to pay up. And if a player goes downhill quickly/unexpectedly you may get hurt by the cap hit.

Typically player contracts are backloaded with salary. So the first few years of the contract have a lower salary and the last few years have a higher salary. So you don't get much of a benefit restructuring till the last few years of the contract, which just makes it harder to part ways with a player.


Brown is now basically uncuttable till 2020 due to his dead cap numbers.
You only want to "Restructure" as a last resort  
djstat : 3/8/2018 3:12 pm : link
Think of restructuring a contract like buying something with a credit card. Buy now, pay later. However since this is salary cap, then you technically pay now in cash and pay later with cap. Confused yet?

Let's use Ogletree as an example. He has a $3 Million salary this year and $7 Million Roster bonus. A roster bonus counts 100% against that years cap.

If the Giants want they can convert that 7 million over the remaining four years of his contract as a signing bonus. Ogletree would get $7 Million up front but that $7 million would be prorated at $1.75 Million per year over four years. So his 2018 cap number would be $4.75 million. The thing is Ogletree has a $10 Million Base Salary in 2020 and $9 Million in 2021. So instead of taking the hit now, you increase his cap number later.

Trust Abrams here.  
TMS : 3/8/2018 4:17 pm : link
He is the best and will work it out.
RE: Trust Abrams here.  
NYG007 : 3/8/2018 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13855460 TMS said:
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He is the best and will work it out.


agreed, And our cap the next 3 years is in amazing shape
Thanks  
afann : 3/8/2018 4:51 pm : link
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