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Cuts expected next week?

Pascal4554 : 3/9/2018 10:34 am
Assuming next week is when we will see some cuts to clear more cap space for free agency? I get the pre June 1st cuts and post June 1st cuts confused.

Who are the more certain cuts and any guesses at surprise cuts from Gettleman?

Yes  
JonC : 3/9/2018 10:35 am : link
the new league year begins March 14th, things should begin to move next week.
we may hear of some Giants cuts  
Andy in Boston : 3/9/2018 11:01 am : link
or restructures over the weekend, I hope.

I expect Dwayne Harris and John Jerry to be cut....possibly Brandon Marshall. (although I hope he takes a cut and they rework his contract to be all performance based). And I hope hope they re-work DRC's contract...as well as finalize the cap hit on Ogletree. Hopefully we go into next week with around $25-28 million available to spend. Sign Norwell, Patrick Robinson and maybe another olineman. Would love Deion Lewis.
DRC is a last year  
JonC : 3/9/2018 11:17 am : link
there's only an extension or finish the year, or cut now.
I would assume  
johnnyb : 3/9/2018 11:18 am : link
John Jerry and Brandon Marshall would be the first to go.That would save $7.5 Million in cap space, according to OvertheCap.Com. That is a good start.
RE: DRC is a last year  
Andy in Boston : 3/9/2018 11:24 am : link
In comment 13856074 JonC said:
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there's only an extension or finish the year, or cut now.


he can take a pay cut.
Plenty of teams have a ton more cap space than us  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/9/2018 11:29 am : link
not that the Giants are in any sort of trouble.

Don't expect a fireworks show here.
RE: Plenty of teams have a ton more cap space than us  
old man : 3/9/2018 11:41 am : link
In comment 13856087 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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not that the Giants are in any sort of trouble.

Don't expect a fireworks show here.


Which is why I'm not expecting AN to sign here. Hope I'm wrong.
RE: Plenty of teams have a ton more cap space than us  
Beer Man : 3/9/2018 11:59 am : link
In comment 13856087 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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not that the Giants are in any sort of trouble.

Don't expect a fireworks show here.
Plus if the rumors are true that the Giants and Norwell have reached an agreement, and with the trade for Ogletree, the cap number has to be smaller now.
RE: I would assume  
FranknWeezer : 3/9/2018 12:32 pm : link
In comment 13856076 johnnyb said:
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John Jerry and Brandon Marshall would be the first to go.That would save $7.5 Million in cap space, according to OvertheCap.Com. That is a good start.


Weird dynamic to the Marshall thing is he's been working out this offseason by throwing and catching w/ Eli.
They have Not reached an agreement  
GeoMan999 : 3/9/2018 12:49 pm : link
Someone randomly said they reached an agreement an people are taking that as truth. You think the Gaints would risk losing draft picks?

I could see Norwell’s agent saying they are interested in the Giants, but he may be saying that to other teams.
We need more cap space to get Norwell  
Rjanyg : 3/9/2018 12:55 pm : link
so I expect 3-4 cap cuts.

We will need a RT candidate. No Pugh. No Hart ( thank God ) and I think there is a chance that one of Flowers or Wheeler could be our RT but I think there is good value in Hubbard and Fleming to sign and plug them in. This O Line needs young, healthy, competent players. Jones is tendered, Greco is vet depth, Flowers, Wheeler, Jerry, Bisnowaty, Dunker round out the other OL on the roster.

So, I am hoping for 2 FA OL ( Norwell, Fleming ) and 2 OL drafted ( Hernandez Rd 2, Cole round 5 )
I can't see how Marshall isn't cut  
RobCarpenter : 3/9/2018 12:55 pm : link
They need the cap savings and he'll be 34 years old on March 23.

I hope John Jerry is cut if for no other reason than I'm tired of watching him repeatedly suck.
June 1st Cuts -  
Diver_Down : 3/9/2018 1:00 pm : link
The date has really become meaningless when a player is released. All clubs can designate any 2 players as post-June 1 cuts regardless of when they are released. The old days, a player used to have been carried on the roster until June 1 when they could be released and get the cap savings. Now, a player can be released and designated as a June 1st cut to spread the dead cap hit over 2 years. The hang-up about the June 1st designation is that a player whom is released and designated as a June 1st cut, their full dead cap hit must be accounted for until June 1 at which time the dead cap is reduced by half. This prevents teams from using the cap dollars that they are saving in the initial period of FA.
NYG could always reduce DRC's contract by $5M  
Dave : 3/9/2018 1:03 pm : link
and have him create a DRC Sports Nutrition Co which NYG hires and pays $5M to for 'consulting services'

(kinda like the scam ne has up there w the phony tb12 nonsense...)
RE: I can't see how Marshall isn't cut  
TheVette : 3/9/2018 1:31 pm : link
In comment 13856223 RobCarpenter said:
[quote] They need the cap savings and he'll be 34 years old on March 23.

Agree - and let's be real. Even before his injury, it was clear he was both not physically or mentally into it.

RE: RE: I can't see how Marshall isn't cut  
RobCarpenter : 3/9/2018 2:11 pm : link
In comment 13856261 TheVette said:
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In comment 13856223 RobCarpenter said:
[quote] They need the cap savings and he'll be 34 years old on March 23.

Agree - and let's be real. Even before his injury, it was clear he was both not physically or mentally into it.


Totally agree.
I think the optimism over Norwell went out the window when they traded  
Ivan15 : 3/9/2018 3:06 pm : link
foe Ogletree. The Giants need 2 o-line starters from free agency. Norwell would take most of what they can afford to pay for 2 others.

And why cut a backup guard when his replacement would cost more?
If the team was inclined and wanted to use the behavior clause  
Bill L : 3/9/2018 3:26 pm : link
To void Apple’s contract, would this be the time to do it?
RE: If the team was inclined and wanted to use the behavior clause  
Beer Man : 3/9/2018 4:26 pm : link
In comment 13856377 Bill L said:
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To void Apple’s contract, would this be the time to do it?
Then you have another expensive hole to fill. DG has already given Apple a mulligan for the upcoming season.
RE: RE: If the team was inclined and wanted to use the behavior clause  
Bill L : 3/9/2018 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13856427 Beer Man said:
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In comment 13856377 Bill L said:


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To void Apple’s contract, would this be the time to do it?

Then you have another expensive hole to fill. DG has already given Apple a mulligan for the upcoming season.
im not suggesting it. It’s been speculated and I was wondering if this would be the time we would find out.
RE: RE: If the team was inclined and wanted to use the behavior clause  
Diver_Down : 3/9/2018 4:43 pm : link
In comment 13856427 Beer Man said:
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In comment 13856377 Bill L said:


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To void Apple’s contract, would this be the time to do it?

Then you have another expensive hole to fill. DG has already given Apple a mulligan for the upcoming season.


It wouldn't be a hole to fill. Apple would still be under contract. The Conduct Detrimental to the Team clause gives the organization the right to void the guarantees in a player's contract. It doesn't void the contract itself. Basically, instead of Apple's salary guaranteed over the life of his contract, it makes his salary to be earned year to year. The Conduct Detrimental clause allows the team to pursue the pro-rated signing bonus, also.

The new regime has given Apple a clean slate so it is apparent that they have opted not to pursue the matter.
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