but they should also be treated like they haven’t done any of that. Calling the guy a lowlife for getting a couple penalties and dancing is fucking moronic. And again, what AJ Green did is exactly what you are talking about but somehow you love him.
I'm not going to go crazy one way or another until more info comes out - I don't know how real this is or what was really going on, who filmed it, etc.
What I will say is that anyone who thinks this is uncommon amongst not just NFL players, but athletes in general, would be extremely naive.
He's not actually doing anything that bothers me in the clip - it's just that he let himself wind up in a position where something like this could get out.
Not smart. The wolves are always waiting to eat him alive. Throw them a bone like this, and they go to town.
We get #33 or #35,because we have to sell low,but 8M added to cap; Cleveland has him for 12 games, after he does his 4 game suspension, he gets his 20M+ easily and he gets to play with Landry, except its in Ohio. Maybe throw in EA for a starter or better pick pool from the OBJ deal alone.
Barkley or QB; or sell the #2 to #5 or #6, and get this team younger, faster, cheaper, with more picks and $$$ for FA the next 2 years.
Do it DG.
But first:
DG: OBJ! You got some 'SPLAININ' to do!
RE: RE: And I agree that he needs to grow up on the field. Â
But the amount of shit this guy takes from his own fanbase is absurd. He's a generational talent. And he's young. I'm confident he'll get it. He's never been arrested for drinking, drugs, hitting women, etc.
Do you realize how idiotic that statement is? Guys shouldn't get medals because they haven't been arrested for battering women or not charged with DWI's, that is expected.
No, people like you are ridiculous. You treat him like he's some Greg Hardy or Zeke Elliot, that he's a bad guy. He's a young kid who needs to mature. That's all.
is that the Giants would be worse off w/o him.
But that pizza...
Worse at WR...but maybe not worse overall with the amount of cap room he is going to chew up. No one is going to debate that he is uber talented. But it is open for debate whether paying a WR 17-18M AAV is a proper allocation of limited cap space.
We get #33 or #35,because we have to sell low,but 8M added to cap; Cleveland has him for 12 games, after he does his 4 game suspension, he gets his 20M+ easily and he gets to play with Landry, except its in Ohio. Maybe throw in EA for a starter or better pick pool from the OBJ deal alone.
Barkley or QB; or sell the #2 to #5 or #6, and get this team younger, faster, cheaper, with more picks and $$$ for FA the next 2 years.
Do it DG.
But first:
DG: OBJ! You got some 'SPLAININ' to do!
Or not! ;-).
This thread quickly became an IQ test both about OBJ and life Â
Can the NFL make him take drug tests immediately based on this video? If he cleans, then no issues besides being a dumbass for allowing himself to be put in a compromising situation.
What are he odds Beckham isn’t at least questioned Â
Can the NFL make him take drug tests immediately based on this video? If he cleans, then no issues besides being a dumbass for allowing himself to be put in a compromising situation.
I don’t believe so. They don’t start drug testing until the end of April. Which is also why a lot of guys who smoke weed do so in the offseason.
Not excusing it, but the same guys who shit on Odell Â
Can the NFL make him take drug tests immediately based on this video? If he cleans, then no issues besides being a dumbass for allowing himself to be put in a compromising situation.
I don’t believe so. They don’t start drug testing until the end of April. Which is also why a lot of guys who smoke weed do so in the offseason.
Some people are also very different when they smoke, some become couch potatoes but I know a lot of people who smoke and go play basketball or workout...
Beckham should be smarter about not being taped, but this is a whole pile of nothing. With Cromartie having so many kids, obviously divvying up the iq points leaves some lacking.
RE: Of course Odell shouldn't be filmed next to some chick Â
The truth is that we just have too much access into these player's lives now. It's cool in some ways, but it mostly just really fucking sucks. None of these guys have any privacy anymore.
I really do miss the days where stuff like this was just never publicized.
I've stressed several times that Odell needs to just be smarter when it comes to situations like this, but at the end of the day, I think fans who feel like these guys just study film and work out 24/7 year round (or are supposed to) are just not living in reality.
that’s why I never liked Hard Knocks and it’s a big reason why I’ve lost a ton of interest in pro sports. I really don’t give a fuck what any of these guys do as long as they aren’t hurting people.
RE: RE: Of course Odell shouldn't be filmed next to some chick Â
The truth is that we just have too much access into these player's lives now. It's cool in some ways, but it mostly just really fucking sucks. None of these guys have any privacy anymore.
I really do miss the days where stuff like this was just never publicized.
I've stressed several times that Odell needs to just be smarter when it comes to situations like this, but at the end of the day, I think fans who feel like these guys just study film and work out 24/7 year round (or are supposed to) are just not living in reality.
I hate a lot of stuff ODB does but this is the biggest non-story ever. Off the field I have minimal concerns. Always figured he was a smoker and this confirms it but who gives a fuck? A LOT of guys in the NFL smoke weed.
First, some context would be good. Hard to really know what the fuck is going on with nothing but a 3 second boomerang.
Second, he has to be way, way smarter than this. It does look like the girl next to him is cutting up some lines - I doubt he was partaking, but you can't be near something like that when you know cameras are going to be on you constantly.
As for the weed - if it's weed - I'd venture to guess most of these guys do that. I personally don't think any less of him if he does (I'd be a major hypocrite if I did...) but the rules are the rules, and again, he's got to be much smarter than this.
All this does is give people ammo against him. I wouldn't get rid of him because of this or call him a "lowlife," as I think he's doing the same things me and many others were doing at that age, but I can't defend him either. He's been around long enough to know better.
Unless you're with no one but your closest friends and family, you have to be very, very cognizant of what you're doing because EVERYONE has a camera at all times. He obviously wasn't thinking here and does deserve some criticism for it.
I won't go to the same extreme that several others will on this - but cmon man, be smarter than this.
that’s why I never liked Hard Knocks and it’s a big reason why I’ve lost a ton of interest in pro sports. I really don’t give a fuck what any of these guys do as long as they aren’t hurting people.
Absolutely. It's overkill. I don't need to know what any of these players do in their spare time. All I care about is what they do on the field.
Obviously they need to be smart and stay out of real trouble.
But stuff like this (and WAY worse) has gone on behind closed doors for decades. For anyone to think otherwise would be extremely naive.
First, some context would be good. Hard to really know what the fuck is going on with nothing but a 3 second boomerang.
Second, he has to be way, way smarter than this. It does look like the girl next to him is cutting up some lines - I doubt he was partaking, but you can't be near something like that when you know cameras are going to be on you constantly.
As for the weed - if it's weed - I'd venture to guess most of these guys do that. I personally don't think any less of him if he does (I'd be a major hypocrite if I did...) but the rules are the rules, and again, he's got to be much smarter than this.
All this does is give people ammo against him. I wouldn't get rid of him because of this or call him a "lowlife," as I think he's doing the same things me and many others were doing at that age, but I can't defend him either. He's been around long enough to know better.
Unless you're with no one but your closest friends and family, you have to be very, very cognizant of what you're doing because EVERYONE has a camera at all times. He obviously wasn't thinking here and does deserve some criticism for it.
I won't go to the same extreme that several others will on this - but cmon man, be smarter than this.
The truth is that we just have too much access into these player's lives now. It's cool in some ways, but it mostly just really fucking sucks. None of these guys have any privacy anymore.
I really do miss the days where stuff like this was just never publicized.
I've stressed several times that Odell needs to just be smarter when it comes to situations like this, but at the end of the day, I think fans who feel like these guys just study film and work out 24/7 year round (or are supposed to) are just not living in reality.
Could you imagine if gronk was a giant?
Oh yeah, it would be even worse than this.
Take away all of the winning that he's been doing in NE and put him here on a team that has largely struggled for the last 5 years and it would be a nightmare.
Although, sadly, I have a feeling several fans would just call him a dopey "bro" out there having a good time while Odell is a "thug" or a "lowlife"... I think you can connect the dots there. But whatever.
Odell isn't filmed doing. God forbid you know people who have done it.
I honestly have no opinion on the video...it could be nothing. But I don't necessarily agree with this comment.. the people you hang out with, NFL player under the spotlight or not, will have an impact on perception and can influence actions. If the headline is true, he doesn't just know someone who has done it, he's hanging out with them while they have it and are likely using it.
We should cut him tomorrow. He's not worth the headache. Â
First, some context would be good. Hard to really know what the fuck is going on with nothing but a 3 second boomerang.
Second, he has to be way, way smarter than this. It does look like the girl next to him is cutting up some lines - I doubt he was partaking, but you can't be near something like that when you know cameras are going to be on you constantly.
As for the weed - if it's weed - I'd venture to guess most of these guys do that. I personally don't think any less of him if he does (I'd be a major hypocrite if I did...) but the rules are the rules, and again, he's got to be much smarter than this.
All this does is give people ammo against him. I wouldn't get rid of him because of this or call him a "lowlife," as I think he's doing the same things me and many others were doing at that age, but I can't defend him either. He's been around long enough to know better.
Unless you're with no one but your closest friends and family, you have to be very, very cognizant of what you're doing because EVERYONE has a camera at all times. He obviously wasn't thinking here and does deserve some criticism for it.
I won't go to the same extreme that several others will on this - but cmon man, be smarter than this.
Exactly my thoughts.
Don't let Keith see this!
lol... but seriously... I agree 100% with everything you’ve said on this thread. He just needs to be smarter than this... and I think he knows it and for all we know is pissed about it (this can cost him millions)... but you know, it’s not really that big of a deal. Hopefully it’s just a lesson learned.
Odell isn't filmed doing. God forbid you know people who have done it.
I honestly have no opinion on the video...it could be nothing. But I don't necessarily agree with this comment.. the people you hang out with, NFL player under the spotlight or not, will have an impact on perception and can influence actions. If the headline is true, he doesn't just know someone who has done it, he's hanging out with them while they have it and are likely using it.
If he's not doing coke, but his friends/hanger on's are, who cares? That's their choice. He's not doing it as far as I know. That's all that matters.
Talk about an idiotic statement.
What I will say is that anyone who thinks this is uncommon amongst not just NFL players, but athletes in general, would be extremely naive.
He's not actually doing anything that bothers me in the clip - it's just that he let himself wind up in a position where something like this could get out.
Not smart. The wolves are always waiting to eat him alive. Throw them a bone like this, and they go to town.
Barkley or QB; or sell the #2 to #5 or #6, and get this team younger, faster, cheaper, with more picks and $$$ for FA the next 2 years.
Do it DG.
But first:
DG: OBJ! You got some 'SPLAININ' to do!
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But the amount of shit this guy takes from his own fanbase is absurd. He's a generational talent. And he's young. I'm confident he'll get it. He's never been arrested for drinking, drugs, hitting women, etc.
Do you realize how idiotic that statement is? Guys shouldn't get medals because they haven't been arrested for battering women or not charged with DWI's, that is expected.
No, people like you are ridiculous. You treat him like he's some Greg Hardy or Zeke Elliot, that he's a bad guy. He's a young kid who needs to mature. That's all.
But that pizza...
Worse at WR...but maybe not worse overall with the amount of cap room he is going to chew up. No one is going to debate that he is uber talented. But it is open for debate whether paying a WR 17-18M AAV is a proper allocation of limited cap space.
Funny because it's 100% true.
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is worse for his health than a blunt would be.
Funny because it's 100% true.
Absolutely.
Honestly, even the alleged coke might be less of a health hit than the pizza (unless he ODs).
Barkley or QB; or sell the #2 to #5 or #6, and get this team younger, faster, cheaper, with more picks and $$$ for FA the next 2 years.
Do it DG.
But first:
DG: OBJ! You got some 'SPLAININ' to do!
Or not! ;-).
You slip OBJ's best friend a few grand and you'll get those videos.
** THE odds **
How is this example of his being attention seeking?
Who knows what we are really seeing in this video but clearly it is some private moment in his life which was leaked and not Odell seeking attention.
Maybe worse: having a visit with Gettleman.
I don’t believe so. They don’t start drug testing until the end of April. Which is also why a lot of guys who smoke weed do so in the offseason.
But I love how the Odell haters seize on this. Clowns.
LT is lucky he played in a time without social media.
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Can the NFL make him take drug tests immediately based on this video? If he cleans, then no issues besides being a dumbass for allowing himself to be put in a compromising situation.
I don’t believe so. They don’t start drug testing until the end of April. Which is also why a lot of guys who smoke weed do so in the offseason.
Some people are also very different when they smoke, some become couch potatoes but I know a lot of people who smoke and go play basketball or workout...
But I love how the Odell haters seize on this. Clowns.
Why shouldn't they? It is evidence he could be more of a distraction than he is worth. OBJ needs to be smarter than this.
I really do miss the days where stuff like this was just never publicized.
I've stressed several times that Odell needs to just be smarter when it comes to situations like this, but at the end of the day, I think fans who feel like these guys just study film and work out 24/7 year round (or are supposed to) are just not living in reality.
Looks like they just found their new spokesman.
Well, it's evidence that he sometimes eats pizza while he has a woman in his bed. I suppose one could find that distracting if one insists.
I really do miss the days where stuff like this was just never publicized.
I've stressed several times that Odell needs to just be smarter when it comes to situations like this, but at the end of the day, I think fans who feel like these guys just study film and work out 24/7 year round (or are supposed to) are just not living in reality.
Could you imagine if gronk was a giant?
First, some context would be good. Hard to really know what the fuck is going on with nothing but a 3 second boomerang.
Second, he has to be way, way smarter than this. It does look like the girl next to him is cutting up some lines - I doubt he was partaking, but you can't be near something like that when you know cameras are going to be on you constantly.
As for the weed - if it's weed - I'd venture to guess most of these guys do that. I personally don't think any less of him if he does (I'd be a major hypocrite if I did...) but the rules are the rules, and again, he's got to be much smarter than this.
All this does is give people ammo against him. I wouldn't get rid of him because of this or call him a "lowlife," as I think he's doing the same things me and many others were doing at that age, but I can't defend him either. He's been around long enough to know better.
Unless you're with no one but your closest friends and family, you have to be very, very cognizant of what you're doing because EVERYONE has a camera at all times. He obviously wasn't thinking here and does deserve some criticism for it.
I won't go to the same extreme that several others will on this - but cmon man, be smarter than this.
Exactly my thoughts.
Rog is gonna kill this guy
Absolutely. It's overkill. I don't need to know what any of these players do in their spare time. All I care about is what they do on the field.
Obviously they need to be smart and stay out of real trouble.
But stuff like this (and WAY worse) has gone on behind closed doors for decades. For anyone to think otherwise would be extremely naive.
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My initial thoughts are...
First, some context would be good. Hard to really know what the fuck is going on with nothing but a 3 second boomerang.
Second, he has to be way, way smarter than this. It does look like the girl next to him is cutting up some lines - I doubt he was partaking, but you can't be near something like that when you know cameras are going to be on you constantly.
As for the weed - if it's weed - I'd venture to guess most of these guys do that. I personally don't think any less of him if he does (I'd be a major hypocrite if I did...) but the rules are the rules, and again, he's got to be much smarter than this.
All this does is give people ammo against him. I wouldn't get rid of him because of this or call him a "lowlife," as I think he's doing the same things me and many others were doing at that age, but I can't defend him either. He's been around long enough to know better.
Unless you're with no one but your closest friends and family, you have to be very, very cognizant of what you're doing because EVERYONE has a camera at all times. He obviously wasn't thinking here and does deserve some criticism for it.
I won't go to the same extreme that several others will on this - but cmon man, be smarter than this.
Exactly my thoughts.
Don't let Keith see this!
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The truth is that we just have too much access into these player's lives now. It's cool in some ways, but it mostly just really fucking sucks. None of these guys have any privacy anymore.
I really do miss the days where stuff like this was just never publicized.
I've stressed several times that Odell needs to just be smarter when it comes to situations like this, but at the end of the day, I think fans who feel like these guys just study film and work out 24/7 year round (or are supposed to) are just not living in reality.
Could you imagine if gronk was a giant?
Oh yeah, it would be even worse than this.
Take away all of the winning that he's been doing in NE and put him here on a team that has largely struggled for the last 5 years and it would be a nightmare.
Although, sadly, I have a feeling several fans would just call him a dopey "bro" out there having a good time while Odell is a "thug" or a "lowlife"... I think you can connect the dots there. But whatever.
I honestly have no opinion on the video...it could be nothing. But I don't necessarily agree with this comment.. the people you hang out with, NFL player under the spotlight or not, will have an impact on perception and can influence actions. If the headline is true, he doesn't just know someone who has done it, he's hanging out with them while they have it and are likely using it.
That's not very smart, Stan. You should never sell when your commodity is low.
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My initial thoughts are...
First, some context would be good. Hard to really know what the fuck is going on with nothing but a 3 second boomerang.
Second, he has to be way, way smarter than this. It does look like the girl next to him is cutting up some lines - I doubt he was partaking, but you can't be near something like that when you know cameras are going to be on you constantly.
As for the weed - if it's weed - I'd venture to guess most of these guys do that. I personally don't think any less of him if he does (I'd be a major hypocrite if I did...) but the rules are the rules, and again, he's got to be much smarter than this.
All this does is give people ammo against him. I wouldn't get rid of him because of this or call him a "lowlife," as I think he's doing the same things me and many others were doing at that age, but I can't defend him either. He's been around long enough to know better.
Unless you're with no one but your closest friends and family, you have to be very, very cognizant of what you're doing because EVERYONE has a camera at all times. He obviously wasn't thinking here and does deserve some criticism for it.
I won't go to the same extreme that several others will on this - but cmon man, be smarter than this.
Exactly my thoughts.
Don't let Keith see this!
lol... but seriously... I agree 100% with everything you’ve said on this thread. He just needs to be smarter than this... and I think he knows it and for all we know is pissed about it (this can cost him millions)... but you know, it’s not really that big of a deal. Hopefully it’s just a lesson learned.
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Odell isn't filmed doing. God forbid you know people who have done it.
I honestly have no opinion on the video...it could be nothing. But I don't necessarily agree with this comment.. the people you hang out with, NFL player under the spotlight or not, will have an impact on perception and can influence actions. If the headline is true, he doesn't just know someone who has done it, he's hanging out with them while they have it and are likely using it.
If he's not doing coke, but his friends/hanger on's are, who cares? That's their choice. He's not doing it as far as I know. That's all that matters.