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For Those Wanting The Giants To Draft A QB with #2 Pick...

TheVette : 3/9/2018 9:33 pm
...and not stockpiling picks by trading it, and/or dumping Eli now - which one of these QBs are DEFINITIVELY saying they should draft? Allen? Rosen? Darnold? Mayfield?

Are these guys all can't miss (ala 1983 - Elway, Kelly Marino), 2004 (Eli, Ben, Rivers) - do you see one as the clear-cut guy ala Peyton in 1998?

I'm not adverse to them necessarily drafting a QB, but those who make the arguments to draft a QB at #2 NEVER identify the guy. Lumping all of the together as franchise QBs and not stating which one is NOT worth dumping for multiple #1, #2, and #3 picks does not support that position unless you know which guys that is.
Rosen  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 3/9/2018 9:37 pm : link
is my guy.
Never ID the guy?  
The_Boss : 3/9/2018 9:38 pm : link
Iíve been saying Rosen for 2 months. Best passer of the football who some have compared to Troy Aikman. Hell, in an interview, Troy himself said he was very impressed with the kid.
There's no such thing as can't miss  
BillT : 3/9/2018 9:43 pm : link
But if you don't get a QB now who has a chance to be Eli's successor, when do you think you're going to get one. What? Hoping to be 3-13 again soon?
Why don't you read a few more threads  
Jimmy Googs : 3/9/2018 9:45 pm : link
and you will have your answer...
RE: There's no such thing as can't miss  
TheVette : 3/9/2018 9:49 pm : link
In comment 13856990 BillT said:
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But if you don't get a QB now who has a chance to be Eli's successor, when do you think you're going to get one. What? Hoping to be 3-13 again soon?


What do you know about Webb? Is he no longer an option w/o even been given a chance? And nice try - but you did not name a guy, indicating that perhaps any of them would be the guy, which really makes no sense. Brady Quinn, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf - all top picks. And as for 3-13 - take a look at this roster - no OL, no RB, no LB, 1 DB (Collins) - not sure where you see the improvement coming from
RE: Never ID the guy?  
viggie : 3/9/2018 9:53 pm : link
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Iíve been saying Rosen for 2 months. Best passer of the football who some have compared to Troy Aikman. Hell, in an interview, Troy himself said he was very impressed with the kid.

only thing i question about aikmen lauding rosen is both are UCLA guys
4 QBs are all potentially worthy  
George from PA : 3/9/2018 9:55 pm : link
I feel Darnold has best chance of success.

Rosen would be 2nd choice...as most ready to play right away.....but feel his career could be the shortest due to injury concern.

Allen is my 3rd choice....possibly highest ceiling but lowest floor.

Mayfield is a wildcard.....not worthy at 2 but I would take a flyer after a trade down
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BillT : 3/9/2018 9:57 pm : link
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But if you don't get a QB now who has a chance to be Eli's successor, when do you think you're going to get one. What? Hoping to be 3-13 again soon?


What do you know about Webb?

What do you know about Webb? You know nothing about him except he lasted until the 3rd round. Quite the hot prospect, huh? I'd love to think he's the guy and get a ton of picks for the #2. We've been mediocre for years but haven't been anywhere near a top 5 pick. Just when does this opportunity come again? Another 10 years? 15 years? It's been since Banks.
how about which ever one  
bluepepper : 3/9/2018 9:59 pm : link
Pat Shurmur and Dave Gettleman think is the best? And no, none of them are can't miss. In that fabled 1983 class there were a couple of misses - Blackledge was a total bust and Eason was mediocre. This class could be just as good as 1983 and we could land the Blackledge of the group. If you're gonna wait until another sure thing like Elway comes along you may be waiting a long time and may not be in position to get him.

And oh yeah, how about the trade down crew identify who YOU plan to take with those picks? You act like trading down and getting more picks is some sure fire guarantee of success. Check out who the Browns got for Julio Jones sometime.
RE: how about which ever one  
BillT : 3/9/2018 10:01 pm : link
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Pat Shurmur and Dave Gettleman think is the best? And no, none of them are can't miss. In that fabled 1983 class there were a couple of misses - Blackledge was a total bust and Eason was mediocre. This class could be just as good as 1983 and we could land the Blackledge of the group. If you're gonna wait until another sure thing like Elway comes along you may be waiting a long time and may not be in position to get him.

And oh yeah, how about the trade down crew identify who YOU plan to take with those picks? You act like trading down and getting more picks is some sure fire guarantee of success. Check out who the Browns got for Julio Jones sometime.

Nicely done.
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TheVette : 3/9/2018 10:01 pm : link
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Just when does this opportunity come again? Another 10 years? 15 years?


Probably in 2019. Simply not enough talent and depth on this team.
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Rjanyg : 3/9/2018 10:01 pm : link
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But if you don't get a QB now who has a chance to be Eli's successor, when do you think you're going to get one. What? Hoping to be 3-13 again soon?



What do you know about Webb? Is he no longer an option w/o even been given a chance? And nice try - but you did not name a guy, indicating that perhaps any of them would be the guy, which really makes no sense. Brady Quinn, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf - all top picks. And as for 3-13 - take a look at this roster - no OL, no RB, no LB, 1 DB (Collins) - not sure where you see the improvement coming from


Vette,

This is the same struggle I have with all this QB talk. I have heard many say that 2 out of the 4 are gonna be good but nobody knows which 2. You still need to develop the QB and surround him with talent. That won't change, so why not just keep Eli and Webb and draft Barkley or Nelson and try to win. It is what every other team is gonna do.
Rosen and Darnold are going to be very good pros  
UberAlias : 3/9/2018 10:04 pm : link
There is no such thing as a cant miss and I donít agree that should be the criteria.
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GFAN52 : 3/9/2018 10:07 pm : link
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But if you don't get a QB now who has a chance to be Eli's successor, when do you think you're going to get one. What? Hoping to be 3-13 again soon?



What do you know about Webb? Is he no longer an option w/o even been given a chance? And nice try - but you did not name a guy, indicating that perhaps any of them would be the guy, which really makes no sense. Brady Quinn, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf - all top picks. And as for 3-13 - take a look at this roster - no OL, no RB, no LB, 1 DB (Collins) - not sure where you see the improvement coming from



Vette,

This is the same struggle I have with all this QB talk. I have heard many say that 2 out of the 4 are gonna be good but nobody knows which 2. You still need to develop the QB and surround him with talent. That won't change, so why not just keep Eli and Webb and draft Barkley or Nelson and try to win. It is what every other team is gonna do.


If Eli was 5-7 years younger that would be the logical direction to take, but DG needs to draft for the future as much as he needs to draft and sign FAs for the
present.
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BillT : 3/9/2018 10:07 pm : link
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Just when does this opportunity come again? Another 10 years? 15 years?



Probably in 2019. Simply not enough talent and depth on this team.

You have no better chance of knowing this being true than hitting the Lotto tonight.
Even those classes you mentioned...  
Toastt34 : 3/9/2018 10:07 pm : link
There was no such thing as a cant miss. There was a little doubt with everyone from Marino to Peyton to Rivers/Ben to Wentz/Goff. If you donít take a shot at a QB with the #2 pick you set yourself up for mediocrity for a long time. Yes you can miss, but you trust your scouting and itís really the best chance to get a franchise type QB.

Look at the teams that have moved up and given up a ton of assets to find one. Goff and Wentz specifically have completely changed the culture and future for their teams. Where else are you going to find one? Would you want to pay $100m for Kirk Cousins??
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TheVette : 3/9/2018 10:07 pm : link
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Pat Shurmur and Dave Gettleman think is the best? And no, none of them are can't miss. In that fabled 1983 class there were a couple of misses - Blackledge was a total bust and Eason was mediocre. This class could be just as good as 1983 and we could land the Blackledge of the group. If you're gonna wait until another sure thing like Elway comes along you may be waiting a long time and may not be in position to get him.

And oh yeah, how about the trade down crew identify who YOU plan to take with those picks? You act like trading down and getting more picks is some sure fire guarantee of success. Check out who the Browns got for Julio Jones sometime.


Nicely done.

If you trust DG to pick the right guy at #1, you can't say he would f*ck up with the picks he would get in a trade down because the Browns did that? Can't have it both ways. But thanks for stating you can't tell which of Rosen/Mayfield/Darnold/Allen is the Jim Kelly or the Tony Eason? And if you role the dice on a QB that you miss on - see Dave Brown, see Brady Quinn.
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BillT : 3/9/2018 10:09 pm : link
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Pat Shurmur and Dave Gettleman think is the best? And no, none of them are can't miss. In that fabled 1983 class there were a couple of misses - Blackledge was a total bust and Eason was mediocre. This class could be just as good as 1983 and we could land the Blackledge of the group. If you're gonna wait until another sure thing like Elway comes along you may be waiting a long time and may not be in position to get him.

And oh yeah, how about the trade down crew identify who YOU plan to take with those picks? You act like trading down and getting more picks is some sure fire guarantee of success. Check out who the Browns got for Julio Jones sometime.


Nicely done.


If you trust DG to pick the right guy at #1, you can't say he would f*ck up with the picks he would get in a trade down because the Browns did that? Can't have it both ways. But thanks for stating you can't tell which of Rosen/Mayfield/Darnold/Allen is the Jim Kelly or the Tony Eason? And if you role the dice on a QB that you miss on - see Dave Brown, see Brady Quinn.

So with you're logic (or lack thereof) you can never draft a QB because you can't be sure he'll be a success. Good thinking there.
Big mistake taking Eli in 2004  
Vanzetti : 3/9/2018 10:13 pm : link
They should have traded back and stock-piled picks.
I don't think drafting a QB this year is remotely as random as rolling  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/9/2018 10:13 pm : link
dice. That's more like a sneaky way to push the idea that it's not worth taking one because they don't meet your expectations

Any pick can fail, including Nelson or barkley, and certainly any players drafted in the 20s.

The reward for getting a QB pick right still outweighs it.

We got 200+ games over 13 years of not having to worry about the most difficult position to fill, and two titles as a topper.
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TheVette : 3/9/2018 10:15 pm : link
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You have no better chance of knowing this being true than hitting the Lotto tonight.


True - just like you can't guarantee this team won't be in the Top 3-4 next season. But I will say this - when you are 3-13, and if you decide to keep Eli AND draft a QB successor with the #2 pick - you are likely prolonging the rebuild, which is why (right or wrong) I believe they should do one or the other. I know the Giants did something similar in 2004 - missed the playoffs, but then made the playoffs the next 4 years after Eli came in for Warner, but I do not see a Tiki Barber around to take the pressure of a Rosen/Darnold during those early years until 2007 when Eli had some success under his belt.
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TheVette : 3/9/2018 10:20 pm : link
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So with you're logic (or lack thereof) you can never draft a QB because you can't be sure he'll be a success. Good thinking there.


Didn't say that all = but if you don't think there is a clear cut guy among those 4 - think about a trade back - even if it is to team like Denver or the Jets and get something in addition to the QB you end up taking there. Bad thinking there if you are too stubborn to even consider a trade back.
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bluepepper : 3/9/2018 10:25 pm : link
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Pat Shurmur and Dave Gettleman think is the best? And no, none of them are can't miss. In that fabled 1983 class there were a couple of misses - Blackledge was a total bust and Eason was mediocre. This class could be just as good as 1983 and we could land the Blackledge of the group. If you're gonna wait until another sure thing like Elway comes along you may be waiting a long time and may not be in position to get him.

And oh yeah, how about the trade down crew identify who YOU plan to take with those picks? You act like trading down and getting more picks is some sure fire guarantee of success. Check out who the Browns got for Julio Jones sometime.


Nicely done.


If you trust DG to pick the right guy at #1, you can't say he would f*ck up with the picks he would get in a trade down because the Browns did that? Can't have it both ways. But thanks for stating you can't tell which of Rosen/Mayfield/Darnold/Allen is the Jim Kelly or the Tony Eason? And if you role the dice on a QB that you miss on - see Dave Brown, see Brady Quinn.

And you don't trust DG to pick a QB at 2 but are sure he'll bring in a haul with the other picks.

And yes, you could be getting another Brady Quinn - but you could also be passing on another Aaron Rodgers. How you going to feel about watching a QB taken at 3 or 4 hoisting Lombardi's while we're trading 2 firsts 2 seconds and a third to move up to the top of a draft and pick from a group a lot like this years?

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GFAN52 : 3/9/2018 10:27 pm : link
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So with you're logic (or lack thereof) you can never draft a QB because you can't be sure he'll be a success. Good thinking there.



Didn't say that all = but if you don't think there is a clear cut guy among those 4 - think about a trade back - even if it is to team like Denver or the Jets and get something in addition to the QB you end up taking there. Bad thinking there if you are too stubborn to even consider a trade back.


How do you know "the QB you end up taking there" will be there?
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Rjanyg : 3/9/2018 10:44 pm : link
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But if you don't get a QB now who has a chance to be Eli's successor, when do you think you're going to get one. What? Hoping to be 3-13 again soon?



What do you know about Webb? Is he no longer an option w/o even been given a chance? And nice try - but you did not name a guy, indicating that perhaps any of them would be the guy, which really makes no sense. Brady Quinn, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf - all top picks. And as for 3-13 - take a look at this roster - no OL, no RB, no LB, 1 DB (Collins) - not sure where you see the improvement coming from



Vette,

This is the same struggle I have with all this QB talk. I have heard many say that 2 out of the 4 are gonna be good but nobody knows which 2. You still need to develop the QB and surround him with talent. That won't change, so why not just keep Eli and Webb and draft Barkley or Nelson and try to win. It is what every other team is gonna do.



If Eli was 5-7 years younger that would be the logical direction to take, but DG needs to draft for the future as much as he needs to draft and sign FAs for the
present.


So I guess San Diego is gonna draft a QB this year? Pittsburgh? Their QB's are old and Big Ben hinted he may retire soon. Wait, is it because Eli's team finish 3-13? Philip Rivers started out 0-4 until they beat the 0-4 Giants after all our receivers left the game with injury. Is that Eli's fault that he can't win a game with 3 TE's as WR? I guess so.


I get we have a high pick and it is fiscally responsible to draft s cost control QB. Just pick the right one.
Why is it fans love ďstock pilingĒ picks so much?  
Sean : 3/9/2018 10:55 pm : link
We have a chance to draft a QB or take a generational talent in Barkley, yet everyone gets all excited about the prospect of drafting a bunch of average guys.
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GFAN52 : 3/9/2018 10:57 pm : link
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But if you don't get a QB now who has a chance to be Eli's successor, when do you think you're going to get one. What? Hoping to be 3-13 again soon?



What do you know about Webb? Is he no longer an option w/o even been given a chance? And nice try - but you did not name a guy, indicating that perhaps any of them would be the guy, which really makes no sense. Brady Quinn, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf - all top picks. And as for 3-13 - take a look at this roster - no OL, no RB, no LB, 1 DB (Collins) - not sure where you see the improvement coming from



Vette,

This is the same struggle I have with all this QB talk. I have heard many say that 2 out of the 4 are gonna be good but nobody knows which 2. You still need to develop the QB and surround him with talent. That won't change, so why not just keep Eli and Webb and draft Barkley or Nelson and try to win. It is what every other team is gonna do.



If Eli was 5-7 years younger that would be the logical direction to take, but DG needs to draft for the future as much as he needs to draft and sign FAs for the
present.



So I guess San Diego is gonna draft a QB this year? Pittsburgh? Their QB's are old and Big Ben hinted he may retire soon. Wait, is it because Eli's team finish 3-13? Philip Rivers started out 0-4 until they beat the 0-4 Giants after all our receivers left the game with injury. Is that Eli's fault that he can't win a game with 3 TE's as WR? I guess so.


I get we have a high pick and it is fiscally responsible to draft s cost control QB. Just pick the right one.


17. Los Angeles Chargers
Record: 9-7 (.457)
Top needs: ILB, QB, DL
The skinny: The Chargers have to find Philip Rivers' future successor at some point, so why not this year? They have a fantastic set of edge rushers, but need to find help along the defensive line and at inside linebacker.

28. Pittsburgh Steelers
Record: 13-3 (.453)
Top needs: ILB, QB, S
The skinny: The Steelers will have to consider finding their eventual replacement for Ben Roethlisberger this offseason. Adding help at inside linebacker and safety should also be priorities.

And given their draft positions is doubtful they will have a whole lot of QB options. I have know doubt they would be going QB for certain if they drafted in the top 6.
I am really warming up to Rosen as the pick.  
NYG07 : 3/9/2018 11:05 pm : link
I would be very happy with any of Rosen, Darnold or Mayfield. I do think Cleveland is going to take Darnold ultimately.

Rosen is not only the best pure passer in the draft, he is by far the smartest. He will have no issue reading defenses at the level. He needs to bulk up, but a year in the NFL will help him get there.
Josh F'n  
jayg5 : 3/9/2018 11:23 pm : link
Rosen
RE: Even those classes you mentioned...  
lax counsel : 3/9/2018 11:38 pm : link
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There was no such thing as a cant miss. There was a little doubt with everyone from Marino to Peyton to Rivers/Ben to Wentz/Goff. If you donít take a shot at a QB with the #2 pick you set yourself up for mediocrity for a long time. Yes you can miss, but you trust your scouting and itís really the best chance to get a franchise type QB.

Look at the teams that have moved up and given up a ton of assets to find one. Goff and Wentz specifically have completely changed the culture and for their teams. Where else are you going to find one? Would you want to pay $100m for Kirk Cousins??


Spot on. This nonsense of a can't miss qb needs to end. They don't exist, never existed, it's entirely up to scouting and development. Even if one exists in some future draft, the Giants will be one of two dozen teams trying to get him. Take the qb, there are two with tremendous potential in this draft. Guarenteed to get one.
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Rjanyg : 3/10/2018 12:07 am : link
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But if you don't get a QB now who has a chance to be Eli's successor, when do you think you're going to get one. What? Hoping to be 3-13 again soon?



What do you know about Webb? Is he no longer an option w/o even been given a chance? And nice try - but you did not name a guy, indicating that perhaps any of them would be the guy, which really makes no sense. Brady Quinn, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf - all top picks. And as for 3-13 - take a look at this roster - no OL, no RB, no LB, 1 DB (Collins) - not sure where you see the improvement coming from



Vette,

This is the same struggle I have with all this QB talk. I have heard many say that 2 out of the 4 are gonna be good but nobody knows which 2. You still need to develop the QB and surround him with talent. That won't change, so why not just keep Eli and Webb and draft Barkley or Nelson and try to win. It is what every other team is gonna do.



If Eli was 5-7 years younger that would be the logical direction to take, but DG needs to draft for the future as much as he needs to draft and sign FAs for the
present.



So I guess San Diego is gonna draft a QB this year? Pittsburgh? Their QB's are old and Big Ben hinted he may retire soon. Wait, is it because Eli's team finish 3-13? Philip Rivers started out 0-4 until they beat the 0-4 Giants after all our receivers left the game with injury. Is that Eli's fault that he can't win a game with 3 TE's as WR? I guess so.


I get we have a high pick and it is fiscally responsible to draft s cost control QB. Just pick the right one.



17. Los Angeles Chargers
Record: 9-7 (.457)
Top needs: ILB, QB, DL
The skinny: The Chargers have to find Philip Rivers' future successor at some point, so why not this year? They have a fantastic set of edge rushers, but need to find help along the defensive line and at inside linebacker.

28. Pittsburgh Steelers
Record: 13-3 (.453)
Top needs: ILB, QB, S
The skinny: The Steelers will have to consider finding their eventual replacement for Ben Roethlisberger this offseason. Adding help at inside linebacker and safety should also be priorities.

And given their draft positions is doubtful they will have a whole lot of QB options. I have know doubt they would be going QB for certain if they drafted in the top 6.


Ok, so a draft publication says they need a QB. I think Indy needs QB, but many are holding out hope that Luck is gonna be ok but they have Brissett as a back up plan. They pick 3rd and their roster is complete crap but they would be nuts to not take Barkley if he falls to pick 3. What if Luck is never the same? If the 5 teams picking in the top 5 ( Cleveland, NYG, Indy, Denver, NYJ ) we have by far the best QB situation even with Tyrod going to Cleveland. Yet we need a QB over a RB? Over an OL?

Listen, I like Darnold, Allen and Rosen. All nice prospects. I have no idea who would be the best one. Allen is intriguing because of his arm and his size. Rosen is ready to play now. Darnold seems like he needs time but has intangibles. Barkley is a better RB than those guys are QB's. Nelson is a better OL than those guys are QB's. My opinion.

I understand the need to have a good QB. And I understand everyone thinks Eli stinks now, so let's throw him to the curb. He was playing with all back ups by seasons end. He needs better players just like Brady, Ben, Brees, Rivers....and OL and a RB who can do it all.
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Giants1956 : 3/10/2018 12:18 am : link
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So with you're logic (or lack thereof) you can never draft a QB because you can't be sure he'll be a success. Good thinking there.



Didn't say that all = but if you don't think there is a clear cut guy among those 4 - think about a trade back - even if it is to team like Denver or the Jets and get something in addition to the QB you end up taking there. Bad thinking there if you are too stubborn to even consider a trade back.



How do you know "the QB you end up taking there" will be there?


The QB will be there if you draft #1, we trade up with
Browns. If we get our Franchise QB, the lost draft choices
will forgotten. But who knows how the Giants have the QB
rated. Also if we draft QB at #1 or #2 I'd presume
that that either Eli or Webb will be let go. We have the
money but why would you draft Franchise QB and then not
play him. He'll be like Webb was this year.
This really needs to be Shurmurís call...  
bw in dc : 3/10/2018 1:48 am : link
Heís the the chosen QB Whisper. On draft day, Jints Central needs to hand Shurmur the blank draft card and tell him to write down the QB he wants to draft, develop, and roll with for at least the next five years.

After that, Gettleman can officially begin his first draft selection as the new GM with our second pick.

The three QBs with this biggest upside are Rosen, Allen, and LamJax. It needs to be one of those three. Since LamJax is the biggest wildcard, and a selection that would take some real brass balls, which Jints Central doesnít have, its down to a two horse race - the raw behemoth with the golden arm and limited experience or the QB savant with a concerning medical file...
What a lazy thread  
Mike from Ohio : 3/10/2018 8:51 am : link
Half of BBI has their favorite QB and post it constantly. There are scores of threads on this site with people declaring for Rosen or Darnold.

But who BBI posters want is irrelevant. We are all amateurs when it comes to scouting (with the lone exception of Sy) so many want the Giants to draft a QB THEY have a conviction on. Personally I am not crazy about any of them and would rather see Barkley, but If DG told me he and Shurmur thought one of these guys was the real deal? I'd be thrilled picking that guy at #2. And guess what? I don't have to know who that is before the draft. They get paid to make that call, not me.
This discussion about our second pick will go on  
TMS : 3/10/2018 9:32 am : link
right up to draft day. But sure it will be top secret up till then. DG has been around a long time and will not telegraph his moves.
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