The story is out in the open now. So the question is- what are the consequences?
We are looking at a guy who is asking for a 20 mil a year pay day, saying he wont play a snap in the preseason and on the last year of his contract and coming off a season ending injury. Add to the mix a brand new regime in both administration and coaching. New GM and new HC.
Will the Giants commit to a long term contract on Odell Beckham Jr this offseason or not? If so, at what what cost and will Beckham accept it? if not, what is his response? Would he hold out?
My answer to this question would be - do not resign Beckham. Let him play out the rest of his deal. At its conclusion, tag him and trade him like the Dolphins did with Landry and get what you can on him. Hopefully he comes in and plays and plays well and stays healthy and out of trouble and you recoup some value on him. I would allow him to hold out if he threatens that. He has to come back by a certain point by league rules. Giants hold all the cards.
I would not pay this man anything close to the price he is seeking.
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Kinda sucks because if he didn't have such a diva attitude he might break every NFL record and who knows maybe lift a Lombari.
I never knew that's what the number "0" meant...
No failed drug tests, no off the field issues and you want to get rid of him?
Is possible the thing in his hand is a Phillies cigar? Or a black and mild?
Kinda sucks because if he didn't have such a diva attitude he might break every NFL record and who knows maybe lift a Lombari.
He is not a respectful pro because he dances?
His diva attitude has effected his play on the field?
What did he do?
Just my opinion, but I wasn't at all convinced it was going to happen this offseason anyway.
Our star is in tbe headline with the word cocaine
You dont want to do anything fine say that
But dont play this what did he do nonsense
My only issue with him here is that he even put himself in this position.
Other than that, some of you people are really fucking naive if you don't think this type of thing goes on all offseason around the league. These are guys in their 20's. They do like to do things besides lock themselves away in a vault and watch film sometimes.
Giants have had drug addicts, rapists, women beaters, morons who shot themselves, drug dealers just like every other team...
Our star is in tbe headline with the word cocaine
You dont want to do anything fine say that
But dont play this what did he do nonsense
Is he holding cocaine? Is he doing it?
Our star is in tbe headline with the word cocaine
You dont want to do anything fine say that
But dont play this what did he do nonsense
Did he do a line of coke in the video?
Was he smoking a blunt in the video?
You have never been in a place where someone was doing a line of coke or other drugs?
And if you have does that make you guilty?
Our star is in tbe headline with the word cocaine
You dont want to do anything fine say that
But dont play this what did he do nonsense
It still doesn't answer the question of 'what did he do?' What are we taking from this 4 second clip?
The Giants arent cutting Beckham
And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants
And this isnt just pot involved
The Giants arent cutting Beckham
And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants
And this isnt just pot involved
Seriously? He literally did nothing wrong in the video..
Who gives a shit if there is coke in the room, he is not doing it..
Never failed a drug test, and you automatically assume he is doing it?
The Giants arent cutting Beckham
And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants
And this isnt just pot involved
You didn't answer my question.
Is he holding cocaine or doing it? Yes or no?
I said - what are the Giants going to do?
You are being foolish if you think they wont react- especially with contract talks upcoming
Tomorrows headlines in NY will be Beckham & Cocaine
The Giants arent cutting Beckham
And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants
And this isnt just pot involved
The coke part looks weird to me. Like it was edited or shopped or something.
I said - what are the Giants going to do?
You are being foolish if you think they wont react- especially with contract talks upcoming
Tomorrows headlines in NY will be Beckham & Cocaine
Again what is there to react to? He literally did nothing...
You are naive if you don't think these athletes don't go to parties where plenty of drugs are being used, doesn't mean they are doing them..
Again how many drug tests has Beckham failed?
They're going to find out where the video came from, get actual details about what was going on behind closed doors, and then they'll probably tell Beckham to be smarter about who he spends time around and that'll be that.
If you're willing to move on from him because of a 3 second clip, I'd say you're being extremely reactionary and irrational.
This is not going to make them trade him or decide not to sign him long-term. So, if that's what you're hoping for, prepare to be disappointed.
You keep harping on the cocaine aspect of this.
Let me ask you a third time.
Is he touching it? Is he doing it?
Since you keep ignoring it, I'll answer for you.
No and no.
He is in the presence of drugs, ok and? I have been to plenty of parties where people were doing coke, does that mean I was? No..
I wasnt born yesterday
People can do a lot of things with video editing these days. A good friend of mine does this stuff for a living - he could make me look like a criminal without me doing a single thing wrong if he had some quick footage of me.
I'd suggest waiting to find out where the video game from and letting Beckham speak for himself before we draw conclusions - but alas, I see that it's already too late for people like you.
Oh well.
I wasnt born yesterday
You sound like you were all over this thread.
I wasnt born yesterday
Why do you assume he was doing drugs?
He has never failed a drug test so why do you assume he was doing It?
Again have you ever been to a party where drugs were involved?
How about you stop with the one liners and actually answer the questions
Under no circumstances though am I going to make the leap to assume on a 4 second clip that someone who's never once in his career even had a misstep with alcohol is now suddenly impersonating LT.
2- even if it was he didnt do anything wrong anyway
3- even if he did do it, everyone does it anyway
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How about you stop with the one liners and actually answer the questions
Because your questions are naive
2- even if it was he didnt do anything wrong anyway
3- even if he did do it, everyone does it anyway
So you assume a guy who has never had any off the field issues with drugs or anything is smoking a blunt and doing cocaine?
Makes sense
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How about you stop with the one liners and actually answer the questions
Because your questions are naive
How am I being naive?
Did he do a line of coke in the video?
Has he ever failed a drug test?
Have you ever been to a party where drugs involved?
Do you really think when athletes go to parties that drugs are not in that party?
How about answer those?
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Theres a world of difference between "getting rid of" and entering into a contract extension at about 5 yrs and 20 mil plus
The Giants arent cutting Beckham
And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants
And this isnt just pot involved
The coke part looks weird to me. Like it was edited or shopped or something.
Doesnt look edited at all. And if someone really did take the time to edit it then they are one pathetic individual.
Yes, because he has never ever failed a drug test and has never been in thr news for cocaine...
So Why would I assume he does cocaine?
Of course. Hes never tested positive for it and never been caught doing it. Even if he was I wouldnt care, just like I didnt care about LT doing it.
2- even if it was he didnt do anything wrong anyway
3- even if he did do it, everyone does it anyway
I don't think you and arc are speaking the same language here.
So did you want Lawrence Taylor cut?
Do you think gronk does coke?
They're going to find out where the video came from, get actual details about what was going on behind closed doors, and then they'll probably tell Beckham to be smarter about who he spends time around and that'll be that.
If you're willing to move on from him because of a 3 second clip, I'd say you're being extremely reactionary and irrational.
This is not going to make them trade him or decide not to sign him long-term. So, if that's what you're hoping for, prepare to be disappointed.
You keep harping on the cocaine aspect of this.
Let me ask you a third time.
Is he touching it? Is he doing it?
Since you keep ignoring it, I'll answer for you.
No and no.
Assuming the NYG do intend on sitting down with Beckham to discuss behavior, actions, etc, at what point do they get tired of having to sit down with this guy? They seemingly have to discuss shit with him every fucking year.
LT used since 82 and didnt get caught until 87
The NFL still uses urine tests despite much better tech being out there since tbe 80s. Coke clears the system in days. They dont even hair test.
The Giants arent cutting Beckham
And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants
And this isnt just pot involved
Does your keyboard not contain the requisite keys to form intelligible punctuation?
Apparently people have never been to a party where drugs were involved...
How do we even know its him?
Could be his LMD
2- even if it was he didnt do anything wrong anyway
3- even if he did do it, everyone does it anyway
You're a waste of time to argue with.
Those aren't my lines of defense - and if that's how you're interpreting my comments, your comprehension, quite frankly sucks.
Let me make my opinion crystal clear for you just so that you'll stop failing to figure it out on your own.
1. I have said several times now that Beckham needs to be smarter than this. He should never have been in that position to begin with.
2. I think we should let some facts come out before we draw too many conclusions based on a 3 second clip.
3. I didn't say it WAS edited, I said it does look choppy or dubbed and it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities for that to have happened.
4. I need to see Beckham actually touching cocaine before I accuse him of doing it. People are innocent until proven guilty in my book. It seems to be the opposite for you.
5. He smokes weed? Big fucking deal. So do 800 other players. Sorry, I'm not getting rid of a generational talent because of that. Taylor was way worse. Way, way worse. Yet, he spent his entire career here.
Now, let's see how you twist my words and turn all of that into something completely different.
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Theres a world of difference between "getting rid of" and entering into a contract extension at about 5 yrs and 20 mil plus
The Giants arent cutting Beckham
And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants
And this isnt just pot involved
Does your keyboard not contain the requisite keys to form intelligible punctuation?
People still use keyboards?
Also drug tests don't matter
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Theres a world of difference between "getting rid of" and entering into a contract extension at about 5 yrs and 20 mil plus
The Giants arent cutting Beckham
And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants
And this isnt just pot involved
Does your keyboard not contain the requisite keys to form intelligible punctuation?
People still use keyboards?
All of them, including you. Maybe take a deep breath, take a deep hit, focus your eyes between the quotation marks and colon, and chill dude.
Hell, the NHL started testing for coke in 2015-2016. That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
Hell, the NHL started testing for coke in 2015-2016. That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
Coincidentally (... or not at al!), that's the year Jaret Stoll's career ended.
Still landed Erin Andrews somehow. I'll never quite understand that one, but hey... good for him.
Yeah, thats the ticket
Our star is in tbe headline with the word cocaine
You dont want to do anything fine say that
But dont play this what did he do nonsense
This is like Inspector Clousea, explain to me what you definitely know about the video. There is pepperoni on the pizza. What else? Has he failed a drug test? So as of now we know he was on a bed with a woman eating a pepperoni 🍕 pizza. Sounds like he had a friend over wh he was trying to get laid. That is it cut him.
I mean seriously, when does this crap end with some of you on this site? As of now there is nothing here. Until, there is let's go back to arguing Barkley, franchise QB or trade back.
Depends if he was the one who rented the room.
"Constructive possession is a legal fiction used to describe a situation where an individual has actual control over personal property, but not actual physical control. In other words, if the item is in your car, your room, or some area over which you have control, just not in your pocket, backpack, or in your hand. Under the laws of most states, a person with constructive possession is treated no differently than a person with actual possession."
To clarify, this wasnt a party. This was a few people in a hotel room.
I'm not saying it is or isn't - but unless I am missing additional information, how would anyone know that?
How do we even know it wasn't a party?
You seem to be making several assumptions here and keep jumping to conclusions despite having close to no actual information about what was going on.
I have no idea if it's a house or hotel room, I don't know if it's in his name, I don't know how many other people are there or who is liable for what.
Without knowing any of that, the best I can do here is say that Odell needs to be smarter while also being of the mindset that I would need to see something a little more incriminating before I believed he was actually using cocaine.
He's immature at times, he has "diva" tendencies - but based on what we've learned of him as Giants fans, I'd be really surprised if he was getting mixed up with blow when he's at such a crucial juncture in his career. Hate or love him, the man loves football and takes his career very seriously. Getting involved with blow would be a huge risk for him and I think he's smart enough to know that - just not quite smart enough to steer completely clear of it if someone else is doing it.
Depends if he was the one who rented the room.
"Constructive possession is a legal fiction used to describe a situation where an individual has actual control over personal property, but not actual physical control. In other words, if the item is in your car, your room, or some area over which you have control, just not in your pocket, backpack, or in your hand. Under the laws of most states, a person with constructive possession is treated no differently than a person with actual possession."
To clarify, this wasnt a party. This was a few people in a hotel room.
And if these laws were actually enforced half the country would be in prison. Go to bed.
B) Id be shocked if Obj doesnt party. Youd have to be naive to believe that he doesnt
C) Who cares if Obj does party, so long as he doesnt endanger anyone or get caught? Wealthy young alphas that get tested frequently...hmmm. Id be shocked if less than 30% of the NFL does
D) Beckham is a guy who is very close friends with guys like Johnny Manziel (apparently sober), he enjoys the party lifestyle but also is maniacal when it comes to refining his craft. Some folks cant fathom that freak athletes can burn the candle at both ends but still maintain healthier and more athletic fitness levels than 99.9% of the world. Welcome to 2017. So long as Obj steers clear of the law its tough to fault him, IMO. Hes a generational talent but also a test with regards to perception.
There's no good outcome for him in this even if it's a mocked up video, there'll be collateral damage; we may be in need of a WR.
2) That chick's got nice tits
3) WTF is anyone doing eating a Pizza Hut Pizza?
4) Anyone doing coke is not eating Pizza especially Pizza Hut Pizza
5) That chicks got nice tits
6) If you're a sports star get a damn NDA signed before you hook up with anyone. You're an idiot if you don't.
Kind of like your sex life
I'm not saying they shouldn't eventually give him a big contract, but it's a decision that should be put off until absolutely required. They should apply all the leverage that the NFL CBA allows them before doing so and when they do, it should be a contract that protects them against "conduct detrimental" to the organization (specifically addressing social media images involving drugs).
He has the talent to be the best WR in the game. It'll be a shame if he blows it (no pun intended).
2) That chick's got nice tits
3) WTF is anyone doing eating a Pizza Hut Pizza?
4) Anyone doing coke is not eating Pizza especially Pizza Hut Pizza
5) That chicks got nice tits
6) If you're a sports star get a damn NDA signed before you hook up with anyone. You're an idiot if you don't.
End thread.
So far, the owner, 2 fires head coaches and 1 fired GM have all been unable to get through to him about how his constant self promotion and idiotic behavior is bad for the football team. Not only have they all been unable to get through, Beckham openly admits he will do whats best for him even ON the football field. 52 other men be damned.
Im sure Gettleman and Shurmur are thrilled to see this today.
He and Jarvis Landry want to play together very badly. I would love to see it happen in Cleveland. We get the number 4 pick. Beckham and Landry get to follow LeBron around town. Everybody wins.
Make him the highest played WR in the game
There is absolutely nothing to this video whatsoever. The leaps and bounds people are taking is beyond absurd.
For the life of me I just don't get it. Smh!!
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For the next 5 years, that Odell Beckham doesnt do cocaine?
Yes, because he has never ever failed a drug test and has never been in thr news for cocaine...
So Why would I assume he does cocaine?
Nygiants, nobody is going to invest $100 million
with someone who might create all sorts of problems.
Actually its an interesting negoitation tactic.
You leave yourself on video's or walk around like
you are someone who matters in the 'scheme of things'
when outside of football he isn't even smart enough
to get an agent who can control this stupid shit until
a deal is signed.
I find that first the mouth expands, then the bank
account next the waistline and finally the ego.
Big contract aren't for everyone. :)
How about we trade him for the #1 pick, since the
Browns are in a trading mode.
Also friendly heads up for Beckham, stay away
from women who have profanity embolden on their
T shirt. You can't take them home to meet mom. (lol)
I think it will really take off.
Some of them are on the Snoop level - like all day every day, based on how the hallway smells. And Im sure theres occasional coke.
I dont think its a big deal. It is a distraction and bad PR but in OBs defense, Im not sure hewas aware he was being taped. Scumbag move. Cant really fault him for that.
I dont need this video thing to reinforce what I already know - OBJ is a self-involved bullish-t artist, a complete jerk off. As TO once said, he loves me some me. Thats OBJ.
And with Manning begins his days out to pasture, the race for the face of the franchise is on. Do you want it to be this clown show - OBJ?
2. Why does an Instagram model have a crappy cell phone that has terrible video quality? Same can be said for the sound cutting out like that. She makes her money off of internet pictures and videos that she creates and posts herself. Seems unusual for her to carry a phone that doesn't do sound or video very well.
3. As previously mentioned, she's an Instagram model. For anyone that makes their money on the internet, it's all about the clicks. Real, fake, or otherwise. There's some kind of a scam going on here. This model is just trying to propel her career by destroying someone else's career. Even if the video is real it looks like a setup to me.
4. I looked at some online pictures of OBJs Tattoos and he has a full sleeve on both arms (shoulder to wrists). They don't line up with the video. Could be the bad video quality but I doubt it. Guess you can say I saw the replay before the other team could snap the ball and I am throwing the challenge flag.
5. Regardless, OBJ will be spoken to by the team and league. He will be drug tested. If he passes the drug test then I would call the video 100% BS. If he fails the drug test, sobeit, he will be properly punished and his $$ value significantly drops.
Like how they let Tito Wooten beat his girlfriend to the point she killed herself and then gave him a huge contract?
Some of them are on the Snoop level - like all day every day, based on how the hallway smells. And Im sure theres occasional coke.
I dont think its a big deal. It is a distraction and bad PR but in OBs defense, Im not sure hewas aware he was being taped. Scumbag move. Cant really fault him for that.
TD, it's not a big deal that a man who is beaten up
weekly decides to 'relax'. It's far better than alcohol.
But, when you allow yourself to be video'd and you
don't protect your brand you are being stupid.
"Pool excellence is not about excellent pool"
2) That chick's got nice tits
3) WTF is anyone doing eating a Pizza Hut Pizza?
4) Anyone doing coke is not eating Pizza especially Pizza Hut Pizza
5) That chicks got nice tits
6) If you're a sports star get a damn NDA signed before you hook up with anyone. You're an idiot if you don't.
Now I will watch the video... primarily because of observations 2 and 5...
Ohh no not that!
No one cares about what headlines say.
The only people that care are people that already think Beckham is a child killer.
The guy has JPP syndrome. Literally all you need to do in order to set up your grandkids grandkids for life is just play the choir boy card for like 2 years. These guys are so dumb they can't even do that. How can you trust a guy like that when the chips are down?
It's like watching your teenage kid make dumb decisions over and over and just ignoring it. That's fine but then dont act surprised when shit hits the fan because you kept your head in the sand.
FYI. I don't care if Beckham smokes weed. As has already been said every player does. My issue is the inability to understand the optics.
Nothing that happened in that video is gonna bite him in the ass. It's the little things, here and there that are distractions.
Huh? I've never heard this.
If its in the room, its the responsibility of the person whose room it is. So if its hotel room, is he listed on the room? If its a house/apartment- is he the renter/owner? If the answer is yes, since he was physically present - then its possession crime.
I mean you can hate Beckham all you want but now you are making shit up. Guess I should burn those college pictures of my buddies doing bong rips.
Just don't post them on social media like a dumbass.
I mean you can hate Beckham all you want but now you are making shit up. Guess I should burn those college pictures of my buddies doing bong rips.
Uconn don't bother, apparently being in the presence of coke means you are doing it
So based on that video you know for a fact he was doing coke and smoking a blunt?
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Guess I should burn those college pictures of my buddies doing bong rips.
Just don't post them on social media like a dumbass.
He didnt. The guy is an instant target partly because of his fame and talent and part due to self promotion. Easy for all of us to say he shouldnt breathe without an NDA but sometime shit just happens. You are all experts on everything, its tiresome to read after a while.
Only on BBI do you get a group of 10,000 people all with perfect lives and no criminal record.
Second if he is going to roll a blunt he hasn't yet because that cigar is still wrapped in the leaf and the tobacco is still in it.. no blunt has an opening at the end, both sides are tight...
Third as soon as the "coke" appears he tries to kick her out. You can hear him saying I am going. To find a place for you, he wants nothing to do with it...
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Mara is only going to let him embarrass the franchise for so long.....
Like how they let Tito Wooten beat his girlfriend to the point she killed herself and then gave him a huge contract?
Who was the genius GM who did that Accorsi the great ?
The guy has JPP syndrome. Literally all you need to do in order to set up your grandkids grandkids for life is just play the choir boy card for like 2 years. These guys are so dumb they can't even do that. How can you trust a guy like that when the chips are down?
It's like watching your teenage kid make dumb decisions over and over and just ignoring it. That's fine but then dont act surprised when shit hits the fan because you kept your head in the sand.
FYI. I don't care if Beckham smokes weed. As has already been said every player does. My issue is the inability to understand the optics.
You nailed it good post....
So yeah, shitty post from a shitty poster.
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it's only a matter of time with him. I've been pro OBJ defending him and defending him but he's never going to learn. Wait until DG sees this. And he's up for a big contract? Man is he stupid. I'm sure he's gonna say it was an old video and that was a cigar and that wasn't coke on the table with his lady friend and the credit card. If anyone believes that I got a bridge to sell ya.
So based on that video you know for a fact he was doing coke and smoking a blunt?
This isn't a criminal investigation. This is a team willing to take a chance on a guy and spending millions of dollars on him and the teams image. Can't prove anything by that video in court but let's be honest as to what it looks like and probably is. I'm sure the Mara's and DG were thrilled with it. I can only hope it's an old video and he knows better now. But how many times are we going to see these idiotic episodes on and off the field. Only good thing is his arrest record is clean and by all accounts a very like able guy. But come on if this keeps up he's headed for bad things.
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it's only a matter of time with him. I've been pro OBJ defending him and defending him but he's never going to learn. Wait until DG sees this. And he's up for a big contract? Man is he stupid. I'm sure he's gonna say it was an old video and that was a cigar and that wasn't coke on the table with his lady friend and the credit card. If anyone believes that I got a bridge to sell ya.
So based on that video you know for a fact he was doing coke and smoking a blunt?
This isn't a criminal investigation. This is a team willing to take a chance on a guy and spending millions of dollars on him and the teams image. Can't prove anything by that video in court but let's be honest as to what it looks like and probably is. I'm sure the Mara's and DG were thrilled with it. I can only hope it's an old video and he knows better now. But how many times are we going to see these idiotic episodes on and off the field. Only good thing is his arrest record is clean and by all accounts a very like able guy. But come on if this keeps up he's headed for bad things.
What has he done off the field that makes you think he does drugs?
He has done nothing off the field to make you think he does drugs..
On the field is he an asshole? Absolutely but off the field he has done nothing
Second if he is going to roll a blunt he hasn't yet because that cigar is still wrapped in the leaf and the tobacco is still in it.. no blunt has an opening at the end, both sides are tight...
Third as soon as the "coke" appears he tries to kick her out. You can hear him saying I am going. To find a place for you, he wants nothing to do with it...
OR
1- he doesnt know he's being recorded. Because he is already high AF
2- he is not holding a blunt or cigar or anything to smoke in his hand. Its his tube to snort with.
People with money who do alot of coke have their own
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Is that more and more people every day are taking off their blue glasses and coming back to reality.
The guy has JPP syndrome. Literally all you need to do in order to set up your grandkids grandkids for life is just play the choir boy card for like 2 years. These guys are so dumb they can't even do that. How can you trust a guy like that when the chips are down?
It's like watching your teenage kid make dumb decisions over and over and just ignoring it. That's fine but then dont act surprised when shit hits the fan because you kept your head in the sand.
FYI. I don't care if Beckham smokes weed. As has already been said every player does. My issue is the inability to understand the optics.
You nailed it good post....
Thanks.
Seriously think of it like this. If someone told any of one us. I will give you 80 million dollars if you just don't f' up for 2 years, 99% of us would sit home with our hands folded counting down the days with a huge smile on our face.
Nygiant... hopefully he doesn't do drugs. Nothing specifically off the field except this and the travel to Florida before the playoff game which all the WR's did I know. He's a diva. I get that and I want him on this team as much as anyone but if you think these things haven't come up in conversations with management I think you're wrong. Doesn't look good. Doesn't help his image. That's why it's in the papers and all over the internet.
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Nygiant... hopefully he doesn't do drugs. Nothing specifically off the field except this and the travel to Florida before the playoff game which all the WR's did I know. He's a diva. I get that and I want him on this team as much as anyone but if you think these things haven't come up in conversations with management I think you're wrong. Doesn't look good. Doesn't help his image. That's why it's in the papers and all over the internet.
Blue I get all that but I don't understand what Beckham has done for people to assume he is a drug addict or likes to do coke, he has done nothing to insinuate thag...
The diva stuff I get, and I get he is over the top with his hair and the dancing but I would take his antics over some of the stuff these players do off the field over and over again..
Kid never shows up late, shows up to every practice never takes a play off or a day off...he plays harder than anybody and works harder yet giants fans hate him I don't get it
The guy has JPP syndrome. Literally all you need to do in order to set up your grandkids grandkids for life is just play the choir boy card for like 2 years. These guys are so dumb they can't even do that. How can you trust a guy like that when the chips are down?
It's like watching your teenage kid make dumb decisions over and over and just ignoring it. That's fine but then dont act surprised when shit hits the fan because you kept your head in the sand.
FYI. I don't care if Beckham smokes weed. As has already been said every player does. My issue is the inability to understand the optics.
How is it his false someone recorded him without his knowledge and then posted it on social media
The pipe or tube he is holding is the type of paraphenlia that one carries in such a bag
Again- I don't give a shit about the drugs. The contracts these guys sign means they don't get paid if they get suspended for testing positive for drugs.
I care about needing guys who aren't dumb and who have the proper professional mindset and attitude. You can't win with guys who don't get it.
Point A- Richard Sherman. Guy is a grade A douche on the field who plays with an edge. He understands how to be a pro. You don't see this shit with someone like him. I'm not asking Beckham to be a square like Eli but he doesn't have to be an idiot either.
Again- I don't give a shit about the drugs. The contracts these guys sign means they don't get paid if they get suspended for testing positive for drugs.
I care about needing guys who aren't dumb and who have the proper professional mindset and attitude. You can't win with guys who don't get it.
Point A- Richard Sherman. Guy is a grade A douche on the field who plays with an edge. He understands how to be a pro. You don't see this shit with someone like him. I'm not asking Beckham to be a square like Eli but he doesn't have to be an idiot either.
Absolutely I pay him..
How many meeting has he missed or been late for?
How many times has he been suspended or disciplined by the team?
How many plays does he take off durring a game?
You will never see him dog it on the field..
Every single teammate says they love him and call him the hatdrdt worker on the team..
When he is on the field I know he is going to give 110 percent and wants to win as bad as anyone...
So yeah I pay him 100 million easily because I k ow he is going to bring it
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Nygiant... hopefully he doesn't do drugs. Nothing specifically off the field except this and the travel to Florida before the playoff game which all the WR's did I know. He's a diva. I get that and I want him on this team as much as anyone but if you think these things haven't come up in conversations with management I think you're wrong. Doesn't look good. Doesn't help his image. That's why it's in the papers and all over the internet.
Blue I get all that but I don't understand what Beckham has done for people to assume he is a drug addict or likes to do coke, he has done nothing to insinuate thag...
The diva stuff I get, and I get he is over the top with his hair and the dancing but I would take his antics over some of the stuff these players do off the field over and over again..
Kid never shows up late, shows up to every practice never takes a play off or a day off...he plays harder than anybody and works harder yet giants fans hate him I don't get it
The ironic part is I love the hair...I love his dancing except for the urinating like a dog ....I like his flair. I also doubt he's a drug addict.Could be a party user. I don't know. I just want him to stop doing stupid things. I want him on this team without suspensions.
Who knows the answer to this? Let's even assume for arguments sake it is zero.
How many times has he been suspended or disciplined?
Suspended Once- A suspension for being out of control on the field. I also believe he has been fined at least 5 times for various other things.
How many plays does he take off during a game?
He has admittedly "not had fun" at times during games- and his body language and attitude has reflected that at times. He also has thrown tantrums on the sideline to the point that a head coach needs to come out and say he needs to be "less of a distraction" during games.
You will never see him dog it on the field
Yes I actually have. He lifted his leg like a dog and pretended to urinate, which was one of his many fines. I'd also maybe categorize this as the low point in terms of the classiness of a flagship NFL franchise.
Every single teammate says they love him and call him the hardest worker on the team.-
Oh Really? In October 2016 the headline I read was "GIANTS TEAMMATES SEEM FED UP WITH HIM", which included various quotes from teammates, the GM and the head coach about how they were pissed.
When he is on the field I know he is going to give 110 percent and wants to win as bad as anyone-
That's a narrative that is pushed by the Beckham apologists. Lot's of guys want to win really bad. You don't need to be an asshole to want to win. The "passion" that people mention with Beckham holds him back. Sports psychologists have said this about him it's not only my opinion.
So yeah I pay him 100 million easily because I know he is going to bring it.
No you won't pay him anything but you want the Giants to spend THEIR money on the guy. If he flames out and continues on the path that he is on then you get to just gripe on the internet about it but he has to still write the checks to a point.
Also that was a low point of the franchise? And classiness?
Same team that has had criminals, wife beaters, drug addicts on the team and that was the low point?
Who knows the answer to this? Let's even assume for arguments sake it is zero.
How many times has he been suspended or disciplined?
Suspended Once- A suspension for being out of control on the field. I also believe he has been fined at least 5 times for various other things.
How many plays does he take off during a game?
He has admittedly "not had fun" at times during games- and his body language and attitude has reflected that at times. He also has thrown tantrums on the sideline to the point that a head coach needs to come out and say he needs to be "less of a distraction" during games.
You will never see him dog it on the field
Yes I actually have. He lifted his leg like a dog and pretended to urinate, which was one of his many fines. I'd also maybe categorize this as the low point in terms of the classiness of a flagship NFL franchise.
Every single teammate says they love him and call him the hardest worker on the team.-
Oh Really? In October 2016 the headline I read was "GIANTS TEAMMATES SEEM FED UP WITH HIM", which included various quotes from teammates, the GM and the head coach about how they were pissed.
When he is on the field I know he is going to give 110 percent and wants to win as bad as anyone-
That's a narrative that is pushed by the Beckham apologists. Lot's of guys want to win really bad. You don't need to be an asshole to want to win. The "passion" that people mention with Beckham holds him back. Sports psychologists have said this about him it's not only my opinion.
So yeah I pay him 100 million easily because I know he is going to bring it.
No you won't pay him anything but you want the Giants to spend THEIR money on the guy. If he flames out and continues on the path that he is on then you get to just gripe on the internet about it but he has to still write the checks to a point.
Go for a walk or something
Comparing him to LT is pointless. Yes, LT would be roasted nowadays, undoubtedly caught on video in very compromised situations. The glut of video and changing mores on drug use would have been very problematic for LT. This is a problem for Odell, and I have to think the Giants are extremely unhappy.
The pipe or tube he is holding is the type of paraphenlia that one carries in such a bag
LMAO...BBI CSI is the bestest
That's a narrative that is pushed by the Beckham apologists. Lot's of guys want to win really bad. You don't need to be an asshole to want to win. The "passion" that people mention with Beckham holds him back. Sports psychologists have said this about him it's not only my opinion.
Actually - it is just your opinion, but since it is a shitty one, you need to create a fictitious group of "sports psychologists" that have supposedly weighed in.
And there's the obligatory line of "Beckham apologists" in there too.
I'm just waiting for the inevitable hinting that Beckham is gay and part of some underground pizza eating, chick as a beard, ass munching society.
The pipe or tube he is holding is the type of paraphenlia that one carries in such a bag