The story is out in the open now. So the question is- what are the consequences?
We are looking at a guy who is asking for a 20 mil a year pay day, saying he wont play a snap in the preseason and on the last year of his contract and coming off a season ending injury. Add to the mix a brand new regime in both administration and coaching. New GM and new HC.
Will the Giants commit to a long term contract on Odell Beckham Jr this offseason or not? If so, at what what cost and will Beckham accept it? if not, what is his response? Would he hold out?
My answer to this question would be - do not resign Beckham. Let him play out the rest of his deal. At its conclusion, tag him and trade him like the Dolphins did with Landry and get what you can on him. Hopefully he comes in and plays and plays well and stays healthy and out of trouble and you recoup some value on him. I would allow him to hold out if he threatens that. He has to come back by a certain point by league rules. Giants hold all the cards.
I would not pay this man anything close to the price he is seeking.
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The Giants arent cutting Beckham
And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants
And this isnt just pot involved
Does your keyboard not contain the requisite keys to form intelligible punctuation?
Apparently people have never been to a party where drugs were involved...
How do we even know its him?
Could be his LMD
2- even if it was he didnt do anything wrong anyway
3- even if he did do it, everyone does it anyway
You're a waste of time to argue with.
Those aren't my lines of defense - and if that's how you're interpreting my comments, your comprehension, quite frankly sucks.
Let me make my opinion crystal clear for you just so that you'll stop failing to figure it out on your own.
1. I have said several times now that Beckham needs to be smarter than this. He should never have been in that position to begin with.
2. I think we should let some facts come out before we draw too many conclusions based on a 3 second clip.
3. I didn't say it WAS edited, I said it does look choppy or dubbed and it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities for that to have happened.
4. I need to see Beckham actually touching cocaine before I accuse him of doing it. People are innocent until proven guilty in my book. It seems to be the opposite for you.
5. He smokes weed? Big fucking deal. So do 800 other players. Sorry, I'm not getting rid of a generational talent because of that. Taylor was way worse. Way, way worse. Yet, he spent his entire career here.
Now, let's see how you twist my words and turn all of that into something completely different.
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Theres a world of difference between "getting rid of" and entering into a contract extension at about 5 yrs and 20 mil plus
The Giants arent cutting Beckham
And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants
And this isnt just pot involved
Does your keyboard not contain the requisite keys to form intelligible punctuation?
People still use keyboards?
Also drug tests don't matter
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Theres a world of difference between "getting rid of" and entering into a contract extension at about 5 yrs and 20 mil plus
The Giants arent cutting Beckham
And this isnt his only incident to cause embarrasment or problems for the Giants
And this isnt just pot involved
Does your keyboard not contain the requisite keys to form intelligible punctuation?
People still use keyboards?
All of them, including you. Maybe take a deep breath, take a deep hit, focus your eyes between the quotation marks and colon, and chill dude.
Hell, the NHL started testing for coke in 2015-2016. That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
Hell, the NHL started testing for coke in 2015-2016. That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
Coincidentally (... or not at al!), that's the year Jaret Stoll's career ended.
Still landed Erin Andrews somehow. I'll never quite understand that one, but hey... good for him.
Yeah, thats the ticket
Our star is in tbe headline with the word cocaine
You dont want to do anything fine say that
But dont play this what did he do nonsense
This is like Inspector Clousea, explain to me what you definitely know about the video. There is pepperoni on the pizza. What else? Has he failed a drug test? So as of now we know he was on a bed with a woman eating a pepperoni 🍕 pizza. Sounds like he had a friend over wh he was trying to get laid. That is it cut him.
I mean seriously, when does this crap end with some of you on this site? As of now there is nothing here. Until, there is let's go back to arguing Barkley, franchise QB or trade back.
Depends if he was the one who rented the room.
"Constructive possession is a legal fiction used to describe a situation where an individual has actual control over personal property, but not actual physical control. In other words, if the item is in your car, your room, or some area over which you have control, just not in your pocket, backpack, or in your hand. Under the laws of most states, a person with constructive possession is treated no differently than a person with actual possession."
To clarify, this wasnt a party. This was a few people in a hotel room.
I'm not saying it is or isn't - but unless I am missing additional information, how would anyone know that?
How do we even know it wasn't a party?
You seem to be making several assumptions here and keep jumping to conclusions despite having close to no actual information about what was going on.
I have no idea if it's a house or hotel room, I don't know if it's in his name, I don't know how many other people are there or who is liable for what.
Without knowing any of that, the best I can do here is say that Odell needs to be smarter while also being of the mindset that I would need to see something a little more incriminating before I believed he was actually using cocaine.
He's immature at times, he has "diva" tendencies - but based on what we've learned of him as Giants fans, I'd be really surprised if he was getting mixed up with blow when he's at such a crucial juncture in his career. Hate or love him, the man loves football and takes his career very seriously. Getting involved with blow would be a huge risk for him and I think he's smart enough to know that - just not quite smart enough to steer completely clear of it if someone else is doing it.
Depends if he was the one who rented the room.
"Constructive possession is a legal fiction used to describe a situation where an individual has actual control over personal property, but not actual physical control. In other words, if the item is in your car, your room, or some area over which you have control, just not in your pocket, backpack, or in your hand. Under the laws of most states, a person with constructive possession is treated no differently than a person with actual possession."
To clarify, this wasnt a party. This was a few people in a hotel room.
And if these laws were actually enforced half the country would be in prison. Go to bed.
B) Id be shocked if Obj doesnt party. Youd have to be naive to believe that he doesnt
C) Who cares if Obj does party, so long as he doesnt endanger anyone or get caught? Wealthy young alphas that get tested frequently...hmmm. Id be shocked if less than 30% of the NFL does
D) Beckham is a guy who is very close friends with guys like Johnny Manziel (apparently sober), he enjoys the party lifestyle but also is maniacal when it comes to refining his craft. Some folks cant fathom that freak athletes can burn the candle at both ends but still maintain healthier and more athletic fitness levels than 99.9% of the world. Welcome to 2017. So long as Obj steers clear of the law its tough to fault him, IMO. Hes a generational talent but also a test with regards to perception.
There's no good outcome for him in this even if it's a mocked up video, there'll be collateral damage; we may be in need of a WR.
2) That chick's got nice tits
3) WTF is anyone doing eating a Pizza Hut Pizza?
4) Anyone doing coke is not eating Pizza especially Pizza Hut Pizza
5) That chicks got nice tits
6) If you're a sports star get a damn NDA signed before you hook up with anyone. You're an idiot if you don't.
Kind of like your sex life
I'm not saying they shouldn't eventually give him a big contract, but it's a decision that should be put off until absolutely required. They should apply all the leverage that the NFL CBA allows them before doing so and when they do, it should be a contract that protects them against "conduct detrimental" to the organization (specifically addressing social media images involving drugs).
He has the talent to be the best WR in the game. It'll be a shame if he blows it (no pun intended).
2) That chick's got nice tits
3) WTF is anyone doing eating a Pizza Hut Pizza?
4) Anyone doing coke is not eating Pizza especially Pizza Hut Pizza
5) That chicks got nice tits
6) If you're a sports star get a damn NDA signed before you hook up with anyone. You're an idiot if you don't.
End thread.
So far, the owner, 2 fires head coaches and 1 fired GM have all been unable to get through to him about how his constant self promotion and idiotic behavior is bad for the football team. Not only have they all been unable to get through, Beckham openly admits he will do whats best for him even ON the football field. 52 other men be damned.
Im sure Gettleman and Shurmur are thrilled to see this today.
He and Jarvis Landry want to play together very badly. I would love to see it happen in Cleveland. We get the number 4 pick. Beckham and Landry get to follow LeBron around town. Everybody wins.
Make him the highest played WR in the game
There is absolutely nothing to this video whatsoever. The leaps and bounds people are taking is beyond absurd.
For the life of me I just don't get it. Smh!!
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For the next 5 years, that Odell Beckham doesnt do cocaine?
Yes, because he has never ever failed a drug test and has never been in thr news for cocaine...
So Why would I assume he does cocaine?
Nygiants, nobody is going to invest $100 million
with someone who might create all sorts of problems.
Actually its an interesting negoitation tactic.
You leave yourself on video's or walk around like
you are someone who matters in the 'scheme of things'
when outside of football he isn't even smart enough
to get an agent who can control this stupid shit until
a deal is signed.
I find that first the mouth expands, then the bank
account next the waistline and finally the ego.
Big contract aren't for everyone. :)
How about we trade him for the #1 pick, since the
Browns are in a trading mode.
Also friendly heads up for Beckham, stay away
from women who have profanity embolden on their
T shirt. You can't take them home to meet mom. (lol)
I think it will really take off.
Some of them are on the Snoop level - like all day every day, based on how the hallway smells. And Im sure theres occasional coke.
I dont think its a big deal. It is a distraction and bad PR but in OBs defense, Im not sure hewas aware he was being taped. Scumbag move. Cant really fault him for that.
I dont need this video thing to reinforce what I already know - OBJ is a self-involved bullish-t artist, a complete jerk off. As TO once said, he loves me some me. Thats OBJ.
And with Manning begins his days out to pasture, the race for the face of the franchise is on. Do you want it to be this clown show - OBJ?
2. Why does an Instagram model have a crappy cell phone that has terrible video quality? Same can be said for the sound cutting out like that. She makes her money off of internet pictures and videos that she creates and posts herself. Seems unusual for her to carry a phone that doesn't do sound or video very well.
3. As previously mentioned, she's an Instagram model. For anyone that makes their money on the internet, it's all about the clicks. Real, fake, or otherwise. There's some kind of a scam going on here. This model is just trying to propel her career by destroying someone else's career. Even if the video is real it looks like a setup to me.
4. I looked at some online pictures of OBJs Tattoos and he has a full sleeve on both arms (shoulder to wrists). They don't line up with the video. Could be the bad video quality but I doubt it. Guess you can say I saw the replay before the other team could snap the ball and I am throwing the challenge flag.
5. Regardless, OBJ will be spoken to by the team and league. He will be drug tested. If he passes the drug test then I would call the video 100% BS. If he fails the drug test, sobeit, he will be properly punished and his $$ value significantly drops.
Like how they let Tito Wooten beat his girlfriend to the point she killed herself and then gave him a huge contract?
Some of them are on the Snoop level - like all day every day, based on how the hallway smells. And Im sure theres occasional coke.
I dont think its a big deal. It is a distraction and bad PR but in OBs defense, Im not sure hewas aware he was being taped. Scumbag move. Cant really fault him for that.
TD, it's not a big deal that a man who is beaten up
weekly decides to 'relax'. It's far better than alcohol.
But, when you allow yourself to be video'd and you
don't protect your brand you are being stupid.
"Pool excellence is not about excellent pool"
2) That chick's got nice tits
3) WTF is anyone doing eating a Pizza Hut Pizza?
4) Anyone doing coke is not eating Pizza especially Pizza Hut Pizza
5) That chicks got nice tits
6) If you're a sports star get a damn NDA signed before you hook up with anyone. You're an idiot if you don't.
Now I will watch the video... primarily because of observations 2 and 5...
Ohh no not that!
No one cares about what headlines say.
The only people that care are people that already think Beckham is a child killer.
The guy has JPP syndrome. Literally all you need to do in order to set up your grandkids grandkids for life is just play the choir boy card for like 2 years. These guys are so dumb they can't even do that. How can you trust a guy like that when the chips are down?
It's like watching your teenage kid make dumb decisions over and over and just ignoring it. That's fine but then dont act surprised when shit hits the fan because you kept your head in the sand.
FYI. I don't care if Beckham smokes weed. As has already been said every player does. My issue is the inability to understand the optics.
Nothing that happened in that video is gonna bite him in the ass. It's the little things, here and there that are distractions.
Huh? I've never heard this.
If its in the room, its the responsibility of the person whose room it is. So if its hotel room, is he listed on the room? If its a house/apartment- is he the renter/owner? If the answer is yes, since he was physically present - then its possession crime.
I mean you can hate Beckham all you want but now you are making shit up. Guess I should burn those college pictures of my buddies doing bong rips.
Just don't post them on social media like a dumbass.