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Browns trading Danny Shelton to Pats

jeff57 : 3/10/2018 12:01 pm
Per Schefter.

Donít get this one.
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Browns are  
Phil in LA : 3/10/2018 12:02 pm : link
going nuts.
.  
arcarsenal : 3/10/2018 12:03 pm : link
John Dorsey is not fucking around.
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Milton : 3/10/2018 12:04 pm : link
In comment 13857566 arcarsenal said:
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John Dorsey is not fucking around.
Or just the opposite.
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UConn4523 : 3/10/2018 12:07 pm : link
In comment 13857567 Milton said:
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In comment 13857566 arcarsenal said:


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John Dorsey is not fucking around.

Or just the opposite.


I think heís making good moves. Hasnít been done there in ages.
Replacing  
old man : 3/10/2018 12:11 pm : link
Alan Branch no doubt.
31 teams supposedly trying to 'kill the beast', then some/many of them feeding the beast.
You can't fix STUPID!
Browns get a mid round 2019 pick  
jeff57 : 3/10/2018 12:15 pm : link
And give up an undisclosed 2018 pick.

Again, I donít get it. I thought Shelton had played well.
This trade looks  
Phil in LA : 3/10/2018 12:15 pm : link
idiotic.
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superspynyg : 3/10/2018 12:16 pm : link
In comment 13857567 Milton said:
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In comment 13857566 arcarsenal said:


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John Dorsey is not fucking around.

Or just the opposite.


In his press conference or just after he said this team lacks real players. Getting rid of who he considers dead weight and bringing in his guys!
Shelton is a 3-4 NT  
JoeyBigBlue : 3/10/2018 12:20 pm : link
Cleveland will play 4-3 with Myles Garrett as the anchor. Maybe they can target Bradley Chubb to play on the other side of him.
I want to say a a nice pick up by the Pats...  
bw in dc : 3/10/2018 12:24 pm : link
But there is a chance he'll get cut (Kony Ealy) or not allowed to play in a big playoff game (Malcolm Butler)...
I can't wait to see who they trade for tomorrow  
PatersonPlank : 3/10/2018 12:33 pm : link
At least Dorsey is entertaining
I don't get this one as well  
Peppers : 3/10/2018 12:34 pm : link
Shelton is a solid player.
Another wasted first round pick by the Browns  
ZogZerg : 3/10/2018 12:36 pm : link
LOL
Seems like there should be a better trade out there for this guy  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/10/2018 12:37 pm : link
than getting a mid-round 2019 and giving up an undisclosed 2018???
BB  
XBRONX : 3/10/2018 12:38 pm : link
caught us sleeping again. LOL
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arcarsenal : 3/10/2018 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13857567 Milton said:
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John Dorsey is not fucking around.

Or just the opposite.


I mean, look - this team has won ONE time in their last 32 tries.

Think about that.

It's clear that the entire thing needs to be completely revamped and that what was there was nothing but a recipe for major failure.

Some of the things Dorsey is doing may not pan out, but the bottom line is that the Browns franchise has been downright pathetic for a long time and they're not going to get anywhere by making small scale moves.

Major, major shakeup was needed there and that's exactly what he's doing. It's time to change the culture.
It's  
AcidTest : 3/10/2018 12:44 pm : link
not surprising that a new GM would make a lot of moves with a bad team. We could see a somewhat lesser version of that by DG in just a few days. The Giants are not perennially bad like the Browns, but were still had the worst season in franchise history last year.
Is Dorsey trying to be Kevin Costner from draft day?  
RobCarpenter : 3/10/2018 12:51 pm : link
The # of picks being exchanged is nuts.
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Milton : 3/10/2018 12:52 pm : link
In comment 13857572 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 13857567 Milton said:


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In comment 13857566 arcarsenal said:


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John Dorsey is not fucking around.

Or just the opposite.



I think heís making good moves. Hasnít been done there in ages.
I'm not saying one way or the other, time will tell if these are good moves or not. He inherited a great deal of capital in terms of draft picks and salary cap space (and in Shelton and Kizer, young talent), but that doesn't mean spend like a drunken sailor.
Maybe this is a culture move?  
Rjanyg : 3/10/2018 12:56 pm : link
I believe Shelton to be a pretty good player but you make a move like this for 2 other reasons: attitude problem or scheme fit.

As far as drafting another DE, Cleveland has Ogbah, Nassib and Garrett. It is possible but I would think they would go DB
Shelton hasnít come  
ryanmkeane : 3/10/2018 12:58 pm : link
close to living up to his 1st round pick status. Averaging about 40 tackles a year and 1.5 sacks. Need more production than that.
1.5  
ryanmkeane : 3/10/2018 12:59 pm : link
sacks for his career, sorry
Things have been bad with the Browns  
sshin05 : 3/10/2018 1:34 pm : link
for so long. I mean why not try something/anything?
I don't have a problem with it  
allstarjim : 3/10/2018 1:46 pm : link
But thought Shelton would be worth a bit more in return.

Don't forget about Emmanuel Ogbah from the other DE position across from Garrett, although Chubb could be a possibility. If they keep their picks, they should have a lot of good options at DT early in the 2nd round as well.
RE: Maybe this is a culture move?  
NikkiMac : 3/10/2018 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13857660 Rjanyg said:
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I believe Shelton to be a pretty good player but you make a move like this for 2 other reasons: attitude problem or scheme fit.

As far as drafting another DE, Cleveland has Ogbah, Nassib and Garrett. It is possible but I would think they would go DB


Thatís what I was thinking because if not this is overkill it has to be scheme or culture .....all Dorsey had to do was make a few moves and with all the picks they have plus 1 and 4 in the 1st round ,I thought they had a pretty good roster .....hmmmmm
RE: Another wasted first round pick by the Browns  
Boy Cord : 3/10/2018 3:15 pm : link
In comment 13857621 ZogZerg said:
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LOL


I just heard on NFL Radio that the Browns had 10 first round picks from 2009 to 2015. That's seven drafts. None remain on the roster.
someone take the Madden 2018 controller out of Dorsey's hands...  
sober297 : 3/10/2018 5:06 pm : link
he is going for HIGH score! Lol!
Maybe the deal is done.  
old man : 3/10/2018 11:28 pm : link
Cleveland gets the #2.
Giants get #4,33,35,unknown additional pick(s), and NE 3rd rd from the Shelton trade.
:-).
Shelton  
Dragon : 3/11/2018 9:12 am : link
Will thrive in NE he will play a limited role 1st and 2nd downs but the key is goes to a winning team. Now many say he sucks average 40 tackles NT a year but for some reason Devon Kennard averages 50 tackles year but he is good?
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