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Pat Leonard doesn't believe Odell is a Giant Week 1 2018

EddieNYG : 3/10/2018 2:28 pm
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Pat Leonard of the NY Dailynews just stated on ESPN Radio that he doesnít believe Odell Beckham Jr is a member of the Giants on Week 1 of the 2018 Season.

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RE: Manish Mehta  
EddieNYG : 3/10/2018 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13857837 bigbb said:
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Also works for the Daily News.


Pat Leonard is to the Giants what Manish Mehta is to the Jets.
Guy is an idiot  
Bruner4329 : 3/10/2018 3:03 pm : link
He used to cover Rangers when Torts was coach and his dumb questions and comments would drive Torts crazy.
The Giants are not trading ODB after the draft.  
Boy Cord : 3/10/2018 3:08 pm : link
No chance. If they trade him (which I don't think they have any intention of doing), it will happen before this draft so they can get an immediate return.
What the hell is he smoking?  
Ed A. : 3/10/2018 3:11 pm : link
Giants would be crazy to get rid of Odell, their greatest asset. Where do these guys get their information?
RE: Many ESPN callers thought that OBJ was a distraction and  
djm : 3/10/2018 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13857802 NYRiese said:
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The team should move on ...get a 1st rounder for him.
He doesnít seem capable of representing the NY Giants enterprise and thatís what he would be going forward.


Keep asking this but does anyone have any actual proof that distractions truly exist in the pro sports landscape? I know the label exists. But is it really a thing? Thereís tons of evidence to conclude that itís a made up myth. Tons.
RE: RE: Manish Mehta  
weeg in the bronx : 3/10/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13857847 EddieNYG said:
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Also works for the Daily News.



Pat Leonard is to the Giants what Manish Mehta is to the Jets.


I think Manish is actually worse. After his tweets this week about a players drinking problem and FA, he can't be very welcome in the locker room
The same guy  
ryanmkeane : 3/10/2018 3:21 pm : link
that said Patricia to Giants was a done deal?
RE: The same guy  
nygiants16 : 3/10/2018 3:24 pm : link
In comment 13857886 ryanmkeane said:
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that said Patricia to Giants was a done deal?


Shh according to him it was the giants fault they couldn't get patricia...

That is a famous daily news tactic, if they report something done and it doesn't happen it is the organization's fault for not completing the deal
All the comments  
PaulN : 3/10/2018 3:45 pm : link
Are the idiot, the moron, maybe take a look in the mirror.
RE: All the comments  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/10/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13857909 PaulN said:
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Are the idiot, the moron, maybe take a look in the mirror.

Are you calling the posters on this thread idiots and morons? YOU?
Trade Pat Leonard  
Reale01 : 3/10/2018 4:12 pm : link
For a spoiled pickle and a writer to be named later
RE: RE: Many ESPN callers thought that OBJ was a distraction and  
christian : 3/10/2018 4:20 pm : link
In comment 13857874 djm said:
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The team should move on ...get a 1st rounder for him.
He doesnít seem capable of representing the NY Giants enterprise and thatís what he would be going forward.



Keep asking this but does anyone have any actual proof that distractions truly exist in the pro sports landscape? I know the label exists. But is it really a thing? Thereís tons of evidence to conclude that itís a made up myth. Tons.


If there are players on the New York Giants who are distracted by what OBJ does in the offseason, I'd very much like the management to figure this out and cut them.

That's the funniest, funniest, excuse making bullshit I've ever heard. Imagine what a total unaccountable loser wimp it would take to say that.
It's possible the Gettelman/Shurmur regime decides to sell him off.  
81_Great_Dane : 3/10/2018 5:12 pm : link
But why?

I know Beckham isn't Mark-Bavaro-stoic. So?

What exactly is the big deal about this new video snippet?

OBJ isn't doing half the stuff LT did back in the day. You don't get rid of a talent like that, you manage it.
This guy is such a tool.  
Dave on the UWS : 3/10/2018 5:15 pm : link
They are looking for a generational talent with the second pick. They already HAVE one in OBJ. You don't give that away. You keep at it until you get him somewhat under control. He's not going anywhere.
Actually in the last hour or so  
ThatLimerickGuy : 3/10/2018 5:21 pm : link
Based on something that a real tuned in NFL person just told me about Beckham my opinion has changed. All of the things he does make sense when filtered through the lens of information. Don't even ask. I'm not reporting what I was told because I have been down that road before and it doesn't play well here.
The Giants should  
Glover : 3/10/2018 5:24 pm : link
make the rare move of paying a non-QB before his contract is up. Yes, he is a big media personality, yes he got some personal foul penalties that hurt the team, yes, he went on a boat cruise and played poorly in his first playoff appearance, yea, he punched a sheet rock wall, and YES, he was on video with a wide brown cigarette in his hand and some girl with some white stuff and a credit card (I have only seen stills, I haven't seen the actual video), but the Giants need to keep the best player they have had since L.T. Pay the guy now, and by the time his 3, 4, or 5 year extension is up, and he's still a top 3 WR in the league, his contract will be reasonable.
Of course Giants fans won't bemoan doing anything else when he's inducted into the HOF on another team that WILL pay him.
He should be paid as the top WR in the game this offseason. Thats what it's going to be. He's not getting top QB money. He's a business man, I think he will accept that reality. They will have to pay him more than Mike Evans no doubt, but they might as well do that now or they will have to pay even more.
RE: Actually in the last hour or so  
BleedBlue : 3/10/2018 5:27 pm : link
In comment 13858036 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Based on something that a real tuned in NFL person just told me about Beckham my opinion has changed. All of the things he does make sense when filtered through the lens of information. Don't even ask. I'm not reporting what I was told because I have been down that road before and it doesn't play well here.


not to give you shit but then why mention that your opinion has changed based on the info you received? its like teasing BBI...i personally never give shit to guys with inside info, it is what makes this shit so much fun!!! can you at least email me what you heard?!?! jeeez talk about fucking dangling it in front of us lol
RE: Actually in the last hour or so  
Rjanyg : 3/10/2018 5:29 pm : link
In comment 13858036 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Based on something that a real tuned in NFL person just told me about Beckham my opinion has changed. All of the things he does make sense when filtered through the lens of information. Don't even ask. I'm not reporting what I was told because I have been down that road before and it doesn't play well here.


I won't roast you Limerick. Give me the scoop.
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BleedBlue : 3/10/2018 5:32 pm : link
In comment 13858047 Rjanyg said:
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Based on something that a real tuned in NFL person just told me about Beckham my opinion has changed. All of the things he does make sense when filtered through the lens of information. Don't even ask. I'm not reporting what I was told because I have been down that road before and it doesn't play well here.



I won't roast you Limerick. Give me the scoop.


i dont get why anyone would even roast...fucking stupid. i enjoy the "inside" info...it makes this shit fun
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Gatorade Dunk : 3/10/2018 5:39 pm : link
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Based on something that a real tuned in NFL person just told me about Beckham my opinion has changed. All of the things he does make sense when filtered through the lens of information. Don't even ask. I'm not reporting what I was told because I have been down that road before and it doesn't play well here.



I won't roast you Limerick. Give me the scoop.



i dont get why anyone would even roast...fucking stupid. i enjoy the "inside" info...it makes this shit fun

When someone makes it a point to tell you that they have inside info but that they're not going to share it, you don't immediately realize what their motivation is?
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BleedBlue : 3/10/2018 5:42 pm : link
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Based on something that a real tuned in NFL person just told me about Beckham my opinion has changed. All of the things he does make sense when filtered through the lens of information. Don't even ask. I'm not reporting what I was told because I have been down that road before and it doesn't play well here.



I won't roast you Limerick. Give me the scoop.



i dont get why anyone would even roast...fucking stupid. i enjoy the "inside" info...it makes this shit fun


When someone makes it a point to tell you that they have inside info but that they're not going to share it, you don't immediately realize what their motivation is?



soooo youre saying he is full of shit and looking for attention?
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ThatLimerickGuy : 3/10/2018 5:46 pm : link
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Based on something that a real tuned in NFL person just told me about Beckham my opinion has changed. All of the things he does make sense when filtered through the lens of information. Don't even ask. I'm not reporting what I was told because I have been down that road before and it doesn't play well here.



I won't roast you Limerick. Give me the scoop.



i dont get why anyone would even roast...fucking stupid. i enjoy the "inside" info...it makes this shit fun


When someone makes it a point to tell you that they have inside info but that they're not going to share it, you don't immediately realize what their motivation is?


It's not like that. I've shared a lot here. I'm don't need attention. I've killed Beckham here more than anyone.

I do have to agree with Leonard here and I think he will be traded for sure though. I think this last video is going to force a conversation.

Also...one more thing....if you look really hard the info was actually posted on the internet somewhere today.
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Diver_Down : 3/10/2018 5:47 pm : link
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Based on something that a real tuned in NFL person just told me about Beckham my opinion has changed. All of the things he does make sense when filtered through the lens of information. Don't even ask. I'm not reporting what I was told because I have been down that road before and it doesn't play well here.



I won't roast you Limerick. Give me the scoop.



i dont get why anyone would even roast...fucking stupid. i enjoy the "inside" info...it makes this shit fun


When someone makes it a point to tell you that they have inside info but that they're not going to share it, you don't immediately realize what their motivation is?


Not to defend TLG, but he caught a ton of shit for the AR and the MWGCS. My guess is that the info that was shared to TLG is along those lines. Hence, "it doesn't play well here".
The Taylor vs Beckum comparison is a lazy one  
arniefez : 3/10/2018 5:50 pm : link
Taylor was not a distraction his demons played out in private. Taylor never made a spectacle of himself on the field was never a look at me guy during games. It was a different time obviously with no social media. Beckum isn't anywhere close tot he player Taylor was either. I'll drive him to Cleveland for the #1 pick and their 2nd round picks.
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BleedBlue : 3/10/2018 5:50 pm : link
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Based on something that a real tuned in NFL person just told me about Beckham my opinion has changed. All of the things he does make sense when filtered through the lens of information. Don't even ask. I'm not reporting what I was told because I have been down that road before and it doesn't play well here.



I won't roast you Limerick. Give me the scoop.



i dont get why anyone would even roast...fucking stupid. i enjoy the "inside" info...it makes this shit fun


When someone makes it a point to tell you that they have inside info but that they're not going to share it, you don't immediately realize what their motivation is?



It's not like that. I've shared a lot here. I'm don't need attention. I've killed Beckham here more than anyone.

I do have to agree with Leonard here and I think he will be traded for sure though. I think this last video is going to force a conversation.

Also...one more thing....if you look really hard the info was actually posted on the internet somewhere today.


well im running out for dinner, shoot me an email with the info to save me some time...i actually would like to talk to you about a couple things as well
OBJ trade/franchise  
Giantslifer : 3/10/2018 5:52 pm : link
Not sure if video is legit or not. If OBJ insists on acting like a college kid (at best) ,
Giants should not negotiate any contract with him.
Who knows , Goddell may be calling at this moment. Time for random drug test!
If they can get a 1st and some later pick next year -- OBJ, Enjoy your new life in
AZ,Indiana, maybe Baltimore
It is past time for him to be acting this way. If nothing else - put away the camera.
RE: The Taylor vs Beckum comparison is a lazy one  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/10/2018 5:59 pm : link
In comment 13858069 arniefez said:
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Taylor was not a distraction his demons played out in private. Taylor never made a spectacle of himself on the field was never a look at me guy during games. It was a different time obviously with no social media. Beckum isn't anywhere close tot he player Taylor was either. I'll drive him to Cleveland for the #1 pick and their 2nd round picks.

That's 100% true. LT was an all time great. Beckum was a disappointment, even for a 3rd round pick. But I doubt Cleveland is giving us anything for a player who hasn't played since 2011.
Nothing like the fake insider teasing the marks.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/10/2018 6:09 pm : link
All you have to do to get a bite is say you have secret info and you're definitely not sharing. At least one person without fail is gonna listen to what you have to say.
The next time Pat Leonard is right about the Giants s  
Emil : 3/10/2018 6:09 pm : link
Will be the first time.
I've Been Thinking  
Arkbach : 3/10/2018 6:34 pm : link
the same thing.
Coming off a bad injury, remember Victor and Hakeem, character issues, and he wants BIG BUCKS the Giants can replace him within the new offense. This is not the JR/EA offense any more. I say trade him.
HOF  
MojoEd : 3/10/2018 7:26 pm : link
He is the only player on the NYG with unmistakable hall of fame ability. Sounds like Gettleman rightly highly valued those types of players. I canít see him going anywhere.
RE: Actually in the last hour or so  
Emil : 3/10/2018 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13858036 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Based on something that a real tuned in NFL person just told me about Beckham my opinion has changed. All of the things he does make sense when filtered through the lens of information. Don't even ask. I'm not reporting what I was told because I have been down that road before and it doesn't play well here.


Limerick, I only have one question. What was your opinion before hand?
.....  
Micko : 3/10/2018 9:01 pm : link
Wouldn't kill me to see him go.
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Giantimistic : 3/10/2018 10:43 pm : link

Also...one more thing....if you look really hard the info was actually posted on the internet somewhere today. [/quote]

There has to one more clue to narrow it down. Its like saying there was a small plane that went down in the ocean somewhere today but if you look really hard you will find it. Can you at least say which "ocean" if you are going to send us on a wild goose chase. I don't mind the search, kinda find it fun even if it turns out to be BS. I am in the midst of procrastinating so this is a perfect challenge at this momement. Twitter, Facebook, instragram, comments section of a online newspaper, website, fan forum, ect. . .
We could only be so lucky  
widmerseyebrow : 3/10/2018 10:45 pm : link
-Go Terps
RE: RE: Actually in the last hour or so  
ThatLimerickGuy : 3/10/2018 11:02 pm : link
In comment 13858181 Emil said:
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Based on something that a real tuned in NFL person just told me about Beckham my opinion has changed. All of the things he does make sense when filtered through the lens of information. Don't even ask. I'm not reporting what I was told because I have been down that road before and it doesn't play well here.



Limerick, I only have one question. What was your opinion before hand?


I felt that Beckham was just a self destructive idiot. While I still dont agree with his decisions I can at least see that it's not just random.
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ThatLimerickGuy : 3/10/2018 11:09 pm : link
In comment 13858297 Giantimistic said:
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Also...one more thing....if you look really hard the info was actually posted on the internet somewhere today.


There has to one more clue to narrow it down. Its like saying there was a small plane that went down in the ocean somewhere today but if you look really hard you will find it. Can you at least say which "ocean" if you are going to send us on a wild goose chase. I don't mind the search, kinda find it fun even if it turns out to be BS. I am in the midst of procrastinating so this is a perfect challenge at this momement. Twitter, Facebook, instragram, comments section of a online newspaper, website, fan forum, ect. . . [/quote]

Website. Probably one of the top 3 or 4 in it's genre and number 1 in its subgenre.

And I'm not even being coy it's just not the type of info that can be shared around here. I'm sorry I can't give you any more than that.
RE: Actually in the last hour or so  
christian : 3/10/2018 11:19 pm : link
In comment 13858036 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Based on something that a real tuned in NFL person just told me about Beckham my opinion has changed. All of the things he does make sense when filtered through the lens of information. Don't even ask. I'm not reporting what I was told because I have been down that road before and it doesn't play well here.


If by play well you mean getting absolutely laughed at because you post 3rd hand gossip about people you don't know on the internet, sure.

Do you not cringe at yourself that you just said "reporting" on a fan site, like you're Greg fucking Gumbal breaking news?
You're right Christian  
ThatLimerickGuy : 3/10/2018 11:32 pm : link
Nevermind.
I guess we..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/10/2018 11:36 pm : link
are right on the doorstep of saying Beckham is in a Northeast Gay Club Scene - which is the "lens of information" so coyly being avoided.

Maybe TLG's source all these years is Ron Jeremy?

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Brandon Walsh : 3/11/2018 12:21 am : link
In comment 13858313 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Also...one more thing....if you look really hard the info was actually posted on the internet somewhere today.



There has to one more clue to narrow it down. Its like saying there was a small plane that went down in the ocean somewhere today but if you look really hard you will find it. Can you at least say which "ocean" if you are going to send us on a wild goose chase. I don't mind the search, kinda find it fun even if it turns out to be BS. I am in the midst of procrastinating so this is a perfect challenge at this momement. Twitter, Facebook, instragram, comments section of a online newspaper, website, fan forum, ect. . .


Website. Probably one of the top 3 or 4 in it's genre and number 1 in its subgenre.

And I'm not even being coy it's just not the type of info that can be shared around here. I'm sorry I can't give you any more than that. [/quote]

This guy is such a jerkoff and makes Slate look relevant . Myles Jack for life
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Brandon Walsh : 3/11/2018 12:23 am : link
In comment 13858346 Brandon Walsh said:
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Also...one more thing....if you look really hard the info was actually posted on the internet somewhere today.



There has to one more clue to narrow it down. Its like saying there was a small plane that went down in the ocean somewhere today but if you look really hard you will find it. Can you at least say which "ocean" if you are going to send us on a wild goose chase. I don't mind the search, kinda find it fun even if it turns out to be BS. I am in the midst of procrastinating so this is a perfect challenge at this momement. Twitter, Facebook, instragram, comments section of a online newspaper, website, fan forum, ect. . .



Website. Probably one of the top 3 or 4 in it's genre and number 1 in its subgenre.

And I'm not even being coy it's just not the type of info that can be shared around here. I'm sorry I can't give you any more than that.


This guy is such a jerkoff and makes Slate look relevant . Myles Jack for life [/quote]

Slade**
RE: The Taylor vs Beckum comparison is a lazy one  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 3/11/2018 9:01 am : link
In comment 13858069 arniefez said:
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Taylor was not a distraction his demons played out in private. Taylor never made a spectacle of himself on the field was never a look at me guy during games. It was a different time obviously with no social media. Beckum isn't anywhere close tot he player Taylor was either. I'll drive him to Cleveland for the #1 pick and their 2nd round picks.


Agreed. I realize we don't win 7 games 2 years ago without him, but I don't like the idea of OBJ being the locker room leader for years to come. He's no LT or Strahan. Draft the sky high character guys like Barkley and Nelson and build our culture around them.
RE: You're right Christian  
christian : 3/11/2018 9:33 am : link
In comment 13858324 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Nevermind.


The thing you seem to not understand is folks on this site appreciate learning about and talking about football. If you know something interesting and want to share it in a relevant conversation that's awesome.

Lots of posters through the years have done that and been really great contributors. It makes the site special.

But knowing something private about a player or situation, and then slapping your own back constantly that you said it, and derailing virtually every conversation on the topic isn't fun for anyone.

I'd also be very, very careful posting about players private lives. What's the value?

My company, in which I'm pretty high-ranking, works with pro athletes regularly, including a lot OBJ last year. His private choices and lifestyle are not secerets among anyone who's spent any amount of social time with him. I know lots of people who know him.

But I don't know him. The only thing I've witnessed is he's incredibly nice and really pleasant to work with.

Sharing anything else would just be weird and nasty.
RE: Actually in the last hour or so  
Brown Recluse : 3/11/2018 9:47 am : link
In comment 13858036 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Based on something that a real tuned in NFL person just told me about Beckham my opinion has changed. All of the things he does make sense when filtered through the lens of information. Don't even ask. I'm not reporting what I was told because I have been down that road before and it doesn't play well here.


I cant even tell what your opinion was before so I dont know what it is now either. Spill the beans :)
Suckers born everyday.  
Keith : 3/11/2018 10:00 am : link
TLG is a tool, disregard.
Trade our best player?  
JerryNYG : 3/11/2018 10:05 am : link
I don't give a shit if he was balls deep in that woman while smoking crack. He is a football player, and a damn good one. That is all he needs to do.
......  
Micko : 3/11/2018 10:59 am : link
OBJ is the worst type of player for your team. All world talent creating the illusion we should win with him but enough of a head-case on the field that he will be a liability in big spots. I do not give this guy a huge contract when we are rebuilding. In fact, I don't want him on my team.
RE: RE: You're right Christian  
ThatLimerickGuy : 3/11/2018 1:31 pm : link
In comment 13858422 christian said:
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Nevermind.



The thing you seem to not understand is folks on this site appreciate learning about and talking about football. If you know something interesting and want to share it in a relevant conversation that's awesome.

Lots of posters through the years have done that and been really great contributors. It makes the site special.

But knowing something private about a player or situation, and then slapping your own back constantly that you said it, and derailing virtually every conversation on the topic isn't fun for anyone.

I'd also be very, very careful posting about players private lives. What's the value?

My company, in which I'm pretty high-ranking, works with pro athletes regularly, including a lot OBJ last year. His private choices and lifestyle are not secerets among anyone who's spent any amount of social time with him. I know lots of people who know him.

But I don't know him. The only thing I've witnessed is he's incredibly nice and really pleasant to work with.

Sharing anything else would just be weird and nasty.


You are 100% right. It's difficult to see stupidity from people who think they have any understanding of reality but in the end there are lines that should not be crossed.
RE: ......  
Keith : 3/11/2018 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13858496 Micko said:
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OBJ is the worst type of player for your team. All world talent creating the illusion we should win with him but enough of a head-case on the field that he will be a liability in big spots. I do not give this guy a huge contract when we are rebuilding. In fact, I don't want him on my team.


I can't believe people actually think like this. OBJ is the worst type of player for your team. I guess you are entitled to your opinion, but it's based on nonsense. You don't like the guy so he's bad for the team. Nothing else supports this thought. The guy is the best WR in football, his teammates rally around him and say nothing but great things about his abilities and work ethic. He's flamboyant and attracts attention due to his lifestyle, but that doesn't effect games in the least.
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