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BeckShepEli : 3/10/2018 4:46 pm
Mike G says they are pretty far off
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Probably won't be  
St. Jimmy : 3/10/2018 5:42 pm : link
around when the team is ready to compete for a Superbowl again. Also wonder how much this has to do with whatever was wrong with the secondary last year. Teams can't wait to get rid of him for whatever reason. Does help next season though.
RE: Wonder if they will ask  
Milton : 3/10/2018 5:47 pm : link
In comment 13858058 Blue Angel said:
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Eli for a cut in salary.
You can stop wondering. They won't.
RE: RE: I have been saying a paycut or release for DRC  
Rjanyg : 3/10/2018 5:50 pm : link
In comment 13858051 Breeze_94 said:
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He is good but a nickel CB is not in the field as much. The last game of the year I think DRC played half the game.



He is also going to be 32 years old this year. That is usually an age where corners begin to regress. Not unreasonable to shed his salary and try to find a cheaper, younger guy to replace him.


Yes. I like DRC and think he has talent. But he isn't one of the starting CB so I would cut him, sign Cockrell and maybe Robinson. Apple hopefully gets in line. Dixon played pretty well in the last few games. Jenkins is a stud. There maybe a CB DG likes in the 4th to 5th round in the draft.
RE: Wonder if they will ask  
kinard : 3/10/2018 5:59 pm : link
In comment 13858058 Blue Angel said:
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Eli for a cut in salary......Tom Brady and Joe Montanna did it voluntarily for their teams.


Well... it helps that Brady's wife makes about 40 million a year more than Eli's wife. That kind of softens the blow for Brady.

And Montana? I think he retired the year that the NFL instituted the salary cap in 1994. I could be wrong, but Joe Montana didn't take any salary cut.
If  
AcidTest : 3/10/2018 5:59 pm : link
they're that far apart, then he's likely to be cut, unless they agree he can earn more through incentives.

This is the purging that everyone knows was coming. FA starts in a few days. Teams are clearing cap space. The Giants are no different, especially given how awful they were last year. DRC is a prime candidate to be cut. Marshall and Jerry are likely next.
Ugh.  
GiantTuff1 : 3/10/2018 6:07 pm : link
I can see the taking a slight pay cut but I really like DRC and I think this team could use him next year.
It's high time for Eli....  
Emlen'sGremlins : 3/10/2018 6:13 pm : link
....to be asked to take a cut as well.
RE: RE: Wonder if they will ask  
riceneggs : 3/10/2018 6:21 pm : link
In comment 13858077 kinard said:
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In comment 13858058 Blue Angel said:


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Eli for a cut in salary......Tom Brady and Joe Montanna did it voluntarily for their teams.



Well... it helps that Brady's wife makes about 40 million a year more than Eli's wife. That kind of softens the blow for Brady.

And Montana? I think he retired the year that the NFL instituted the salary cap in 1994. I could be wrong, but Joe Montana didn't take any salary cut.


you act like Eli doesnt have a rich brother tho! he'd be okay if they knocked 10m off
Easy for you to say.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/10/2018 6:24 pm : link
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I think you guys should also get your pay cut  
Bill L : 3/10/2018 6:30 pm : link
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RE: Releasing him would be dumb.  
Mark from Jersey : 3/10/2018 6:34 pm : link
In comment 13858007 robbieballs2003 said:
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You can trade him. There are a ton of teams with hige cap space that would want a CB like DRC for under $7 mil.
+1
Eli should be the first one to take a cut  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/10/2018 6:54 pm : link
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RE: Releasing him would be dumb.  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/10/2018 6:56 pm : link
In comment 13858007 robbieballs2003 said:
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You can trade him. There are a ton of teams with hige cap space that would want a CB like DRC for under $7 mil.


And in the final year of his contract too
RE: Eli should be the first one to take a cut  
Bill L : 3/10/2018 6:57 pm : link
In comment 13858133 BigBlue4You09 said:
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you first?
This team was 3-13.  
RottenApple : 3/10/2018 7:06 pm : link
Players were suspended; players slacked off; a roster purge is needed. Who gives a shit if some guy who gets up limping every other play might be cut? The roster is rotten. Many more changes are coming.
RE: RE: RE: This would be a terrible movd  
NYBlueinPA : 3/10/2018 7:16 pm : link
In comment 13858021 riceneggs said:
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He's still a really really good CB.


Is he really really good at this point?



yes, he's still really really good....when motivated.



From Star Ledger article:
"Last season, Rodgers-Cromartie only made five starts and played in 15 games on the way to finishing with 31 tackles and one pass breakup." Really, really? Just sayin.

Might have said good veteran leadership but was one of the suspension problems last year. If he takes a cut you keep, if not he's gone. Cockrell looked pretty good and are few others out there in FA that could help. Would rather not have to spend a draft pick but maybe late round or if they happen to trade down and collect some extras.
How 'bout we ask Eli...  
M.S. : 3/10/2018 7:25 pm : link

...to take a fucking cut in pay?

Just asking.
GM  
big canoe jeff : 3/10/2018 7:36 pm : link
Needs to work the phones like Phiilly gm Roseman
Unlike lazy incompetent Reese
I sense there will be a a series of Cut and Dry decisions.  
KeoweeFan : 3/10/2018 7:43 pm : link
DG will have a number in his mind of what he is willing to pay for many of the veterans. (It may not be the initial offer.)
No more back and forth angst. After a short negotiation, it will be "take it or be traded or cut".
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a very definite short term date when DRC has to decide.
DG probably has players prioritized and this is the first of several.
Letís see if GM can move him  
big canoe jeff : 3/10/2018 7:53 pm : link
Wing cut was low hanging fruit
RE: RE: RE: I have been saying a paycut or release for DRC  
robbieballs2003 : 3/10/2018 8:00 pm : link
In comment 13858073 Rjanyg said:
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He is good but a nickel CB is not in the field as much. The last game of the year I think DRC played half the game.



He is also going to be 32 years old this year. That is usually an age where corners begin to regress. Not unreasonable to shed his salary and try to find a cheaper, younger guy to replace him.



Yes. I like DRC and think he has talent. But he isn't one of the starting CB so I would cut him, sign Cockrell and maybe Robinson. Apple hopefully gets in line. Dixon played pretty well in the last few games. Jenkins is a stud. There maybe a CB DG likes in the 4th to 5th round in the draft.


I hate comments like this. No offense meant. All I am saying is that if you like "a player" then that means one player and there is no guarantee that particular players would be available when we pick. As most front office people say, FA is used to fill holes so that you don't have any glaring needs going into the draft. The draft is for the future or long term.
The problem is  
Thunderstruck27 : 3/10/2018 9:21 pm : link
that they have been using DRC as a nickel the last 2 seasons. He's not one. If they plan on starting Apple(God help us) they might as well cut DRC. That being said...he is infinitely better outside than Apple is.
RE: RE: Review  
JCin332 : 3/10/2018 9:22 pm : link
In comment 13858024 riceneggs said:
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Eli's salary. Overpaid.



wonder why Eli is never asked to take a significant pay cut. all the reasons they want DRC to are the same reasons Eli should

except DRC is better at his position than Eli is


Lmao holy shitfuck you have rice and eggs on the brain...
Giants hardly have  
XBRONX : 3/10/2018 10:12 pm : link
a long list of cuts. Three at most. Jerry, Marshall and Harris. Look at the roster next time you post.
Number of picks  
GeoMan999 : 3/10/2018 10:17 pm : link
Sorry if I missed something, but people keep referencing that we have five picks and I thought we had six.

I thought the compensatory pick gave us seven and then we lost a net of one in the recent trade?

RE: Number of picks  
AcidTest : 3/10/2018 10:31 pm : link
In comment 13858279 GeoMan999 said:
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Sorry if I missed something, but people keep referencing that we have five picks and I thought we had six.

I thought the compensatory pick gave us seven and then we lost a net of one in the recent trade?


We traded a fourth (comp pick) and a sixth for Ogletree.
RE: Number of picks  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/10/2018 11:01 pm : link
In comment 13858279 GeoMan999 said:
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Sorry if I missed something, but people keep referencing that we have five picks and I thought we had six.

I thought the compensatory pick gave us seven and then we lost a net of one in the recent trade?


The 7th is for next year, I believe.
Welp...  
trueblueinpw : 3/10/2018 11:10 pm : link
If the Seahawks can kick to the curb Dick Sherman and the Black Unicornís brother the we should be able to ask DRC to take a pay cut or just be cut.
Cockrell on his best day  
Doomster : 3/10/2018 11:12 pm : link
isn't as good as DRC....I don't think he is as good as Apple....Cockrell is more a zone corner than man to man corner....

Only problem with DRC is, he is a year older, is this the year he loses a step, and his ability to play 16 games....

Paying him under 7M is a good deal....it becomes a bad deal when he is standing on the sidelines....

If they are seriously thinking of cutting DRC, then maybe it's time to blow it up and make some Serious cuts....
DRC  
Dragon : 3/10/2018 11:50 pm : link
For 8 mil is a bad deal but Richard Sherman with two bad wheels signs 3 year 39 mil contract? What about that guy name Eli canít seem to get anyone to agree his contract is ridiculous. I see no reason why any Giants should take a pay cut if you donít want me someone else does.
RE: DRC  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/11/2018 12:04 am : link
In comment 13858334 Dragon said:
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For 8 mil is a bad deal but Richard Sherman with two bad wheels signs 3 year 39 mil contract? What about that guy name Eli canít seem to get anyone to agree his contract is ridiculous. I see no reason why any Giants should take a pay cut if you donít want me someone else does.


Shermanís deal is essentially one year and heavily incentive based
RE: RE: This would be a terrible movd  
Brick72 : 3/11/2018 12:46 am : link
In comment 13858014 ryanmkeane said:
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In comment 13858010 Big Rick in FL said:
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He's still a really really good CB.

Is he really really good at this point?

Yes.
Eli Manningís contract  
giantsFC : 3/11/2018 1:11 am : link
Isnít exacrly horrible compared to what the rest of the crap qbís in the league make.

It would be nice to see him sacrifice a few mil though.

I like DRC but aging DBís are a dime a dozen. Cut the pay or send him packing.
RE: Eli Manningís contract  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/11/2018 1:57 am : link
In comment 13858356 giantsFC said:
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Isnít exacrly horrible compared to what the rest of the crap qbís in the league make.

It would be nice to see him sacrifice a few mil though.

I like DRC but aging DBís are a dime a dozen. Cut the pay or send him packing.


Name one aging CB as good as DRC we can get for under $6 mil
BigBlue4  
XBRONX : 3/11/2018 7:45 am : link
Waiting on someone to answer your astute question?
People  
Sammo85 : 3/11/2018 8:28 am : link
Get hung up on contract terms they know nothing about it seems. No contract in the NFL is really all that comparative as thereís a lot of funny money and bonus allocations. Shermanís deal is essentially an incentive laden one year deal.

Giants need the cap space and DRC is getting up there and is no longer a starting corner. Not a hard call here folks.

Giants can easily give themselves lots more of cap room by cutting DRC, Marshall etc.
DRC  
RetroJint : 3/11/2018 8:29 am : link
should accept the cut and play for the Giants. Heís not a heavy-duty Corner anymore. Heís advanced in years. There would be a market for him if he forced a release , but he wouldnít get what he is scheduled to receive now . He might not be playing as much with the new team, either .
Either way  
mdthedream : 3/11/2018 8:32 am : link
he can be replaced.
DRC  
Dragon : 3/11/2018 8:33 am : link
Is the only guy on this team that can be asked to take a pay cut or Sayonara seems to me there are twenty or thirty more.
Still think that the people calling for other guys to get a pay cut  
Bill L : 3/11/2018 8:42 am : link
Should have their employers chop their salaries as well.
BigBlue4  
XBRONX : 3/11/2018 9:16 am : link
Still waiting for someone to answer your post
RE: RE: RE: RE: This would be a terrible movd  
Eli Wilson : 3/11/2018 9:48 am : link
In comment 13858147 NYBlueinPA said:
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He's still a really really good CB.


Is he really really good at this point?



yes, he's still really really good....when motivated.




From Star Ledger article:
"Last season, Rodgers-Cromartie only made five starts and played in 15 games on the way to finishing with 31 tackles and one pass breakup." Really, really? Just sayin.

Might have said good veteran leadership but was one of the suspension problems last year. If he takes a cut you keep, if not he's gone. Cockrell looked pretty good and are few others out there in FA that could help. Would rather not have to spend a draft pick but maybe late round or if they happen to trade down and collect some extras.


1 pass defended and 0 Ints. He may have lost a step.

For comparison....Snacks had 3 passes defended and 1 Int.
anyone who thinks he is the only one  
Dave on the UWS : 3/11/2018 10:09 am : link
to be targeted is crazy. This is only the beginning. As they work their way through FA, the roster will become fluid. There will be a lot of coming and going I suspect.
RE: Cockrell on his best day  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 3/11/2018 10:38 am : link
In comment 13858317 Doomster said:
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isn't as good as DRC....I don't think he is as good as Apple....Cockrell is more a zone corner than man to man corner....

Only problem with DRC is, he is a year older, is this the year he loses a step, and his ability to play 16 games....

Paying him under 7M is a good deal....it becomes a bad deal when he is standing on the sidelines....

If they are seriously thinking of cutting DRC, then maybe it's time to blow it up and make some Serious cuts....


Yeah, Cockrell probably doesn't fit the new defense.
Lionizing DRC while pitchforking Eli is BBI at its finest  
Eric on Li : 3/11/2018 11:11 am : link
Last week we heard the rumors that the Giants might be interested in Patrick Robinson - who has been regarded as a good slot defender for years and per the link below had a really good 2017 - and people said "too expensive" or "too old" or "going to get overpaid".

Meanwhile...DRC has primarily been in the slot CB for 2 years, he's a year older, and his cap number $8.5m.

My point on DRC would be this - I'm not opposed to keeping him, especially if they think they are going to dump Apple and put him back at his natural position outside, but he had a down year last year and there's a chance you can get a comparable or better player at less money. Anyone comparing that situation to the QB position is a moron because you don't need to look any further than whatever Kirk Cousins salary becomes than to realize it's not nearly the same with Eli Manning.
NFL1000: Ranking the Top Slot Defenders of 2017 Season - ( New Window )
DRC released.  
Jimmy Googs : 3/11/2018 11:49 am : link
Eli up next...
Still waiting  
XBRONX : 3/11/2018 12:11 pm : link
for ANYONE to tell me who replaces DRC at how much per year.
Gettleman will tell you in due time  
Jimmy Googs : 3/11/2018 12:15 pm : link
so sit tight...
"It's not personal, Sonny.  
PEEJ : 3/11/2018 12:29 pm : link
It's just business"
Did Brady take a pay cut, in the sense that  
Doomster : 3/11/2018 9:58 pm : link
he gave back money, or did he sign an extension, for less than what other qb's were getting in exchange for guaranteed money?
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