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04 QBs vs 18 QBs

Section131 : 3/10/2018 8:09 pm
Curious to see how people compare the 04 QB class to this year's class. I personally was really high on Eli and Big Ben. Less so on Rivers. This year I don't have one QB I really like. Does anybody feel the same way?
I'm pretty high on Rosen and Darnold  
nyjuggernaut2 : 3/10/2018 8:11 pm : link
Somewhat high on Allen, but not too excited about Mayfield.
I feel the same as you.  
robbieballs2003 : 3/10/2018 8:12 pm : link
However, I feel the rules and style of play of today's NFL allow for a quicker transition for younger QBs in the NFL.
Only liked Roeth...  
bw in dc : 3/10/2018 8:19 pm : link
from ‘04. Thought Eli was riding the coaching coattails of Cutcliffe. Was concerned about Rivers’ arm.

This class of ‘18 is much deeper but I’m not sure anyone - yet - is in Roeth’s class. Rosen throws the ball better than anyone from that ‘04 class...
I think people are looking for ways to downplay the idea of taking QB.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/10/2018 8:26 pm : link
The reasons given for not doing so don't pass the smell test. At the top of that list is 'he's not a can't miss player' which is a ridiculous position to take. This group is good. Rosen's arm talent and accuracy is special and on the mental side of the position he's ahead of the curve.
Big 3 to Big 3...(at the time in college)  
bw in dc : 3/10/2018 8:35 pm : link
Roeth v Allen - similar bodies; Allen has a better arm and is a similar athlete, if not a bit better; Roeth is much further along...Edge: Roeth

Eli v Rosen - Eli more durable, and more success; Rosen is a superior thrower; similar acumen; similar athletes...Edge: Rosen

Darnold v Rivers - Darnold is the better athlete and a better arm and mover; Rivers with a very unorthodox motion but a real quick release; Darnold has a slower delivery...Edge: Even
It's Amazing  
lax counsel : 3/10/2018 8:53 pm : link
How quickly the 18 class is being devauled by our fan base, who seem to be looking for the perfect prospect, who doesn't exist, literally ever. This is hands down the best class since 04, and we ll get a guaranteed shot at one of Darnold or Rosen, without spending anything other than a pick. Yet fans want to trade down or take a rb. It's simply mind boggling. And to suggest that it's as simple as trading up next year for a qb, again, baffling- and if fans don't like this class, they're going to hate next years. Or alternatively, think Davis Webb is the second coming, a Jerry Reese third round pick, who spent a season playing against guys who will be packing groceries this year. Yet the only justification for Davis Webb is he seems nice and works hard, never mind the fact that he has awful accuracy throwing the ball beyond 10 yards, struggled to read even the most basic, and generally was awkward in the pocket with little awareness.

Heres the thing, this isn't the 99 class, or Mark Sanchez. This is a class that's had multiple seasons of success in college, and are not last minute post combine risers- akin to Jeff George, Blake Bortles, or Mitch Trubisky. In that regard they are very similar to the 04 class. These are good qbs.

However, in reading this thread, I am glad there are level headed fans that realize the opportunity in front of the Giants, to be set at the qb position for nearly 30 years straight. I have zero confidence in this organization right now, given the pitiful performance over the past half decade, excluding one year, but hopefully DG does the right thing and takes Darnold or Rosen.
While I agree with you  
NikkiMac : 3/11/2018 7:49 am : link
Your making it sound like Webb is complete garbage and I don’t buy that and I don’t know where you get that this guy is inaccurate on long ball as a matter of fact he excels at the long ball which is exactly what we’ve been lacking under Macadoo...... I’m tired of dink and dunk and that’s not Eli’s strong suit anyway .....
Why do we keep talking about 2004?  
Mike in NY : 3/11/2018 8:41 am : link
This could be 1999 QB crop revisited that saw Couch-McNabb-smith go top 3 and Culpepper and McNown in Top 12. How did that turn out?
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