Could Buffalo already have a trade lined up?

It is amazing the amount of posters on here that are open with trading with the Bills.

Stay at 2 & take either the best QB or Barkley. Swing for the fences.

A trade is another option.

Agreed that could be it but I don't see the Eagles trading Foles right away. They will need him to start the season.

trades ALL the way down to 21. He would have to just about get every pick Buffalo has for the next 2 drafts to consider it.

trade partner would be Cleveland with the No. 4 pick. The Browns maximize the value of their two picks by going QB at #1 and trading out at #4 to a team desperate for a QB. Plus, the Browns can not get cute with the QB pick...they are going QB with the first pick.

If Giants, they better trade back twice before dealing with buffalo.

To far down imo

...if they couldn't find a trading partner. They benched him during the year and the only reason he returned was because the rookie who replaced him shit the bed. I'm guessing they can't believe their lucky stars that they got the 65th overall pick in return for him.

In comment 13858460 Dave on the UWS said:

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trades ALL the way down to 21. He would have to just about get every pick Buffalo has for the next 2 drafts to consider it.

also zero chance anybody on this board knows what DG might do...

...well reasoned.

And I'm with you, stay at #2 and make the best QB pick possible to replace Eli (whenever that occurs).

Do you think if the Giants get the Bills two first round picks and more this year and next years first. That the Bills will be a top team next season? I don't I think bottom 10 without a QB that has experience. I would not trade with them but would not cry about it if we did. I also wouldn't mind if we trade to 4 than back to Buff it we can get all the extra picks and next years first.

When you have the opportunity to draft a franchise QB, draft him. Hoping it will be a long time before you are drafting in this position. Being close to Accorsi, I would think DG has the same thought process. I would be shocked if we do not draft a QB.

And I too would be shocked if DG traded down to 21/22. We need our next QB.

So, unless DG is convinced that Webb is the answer and thus doesn't feel the need to go QB at 2, a trade down doesn't make sense.

Of course, if DG feels that Webb is the answer, a trade down that lands a ton of Buffalo picks might make good sense. Between the OBJ trade (jk) and this, we'd restock quickly.

In comment 13858478 Milton said:

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Quote: It was quite the coup for Brandon Beane. Getting a top 65 pick for a quarterback no one believed would be on the team's opening day roster in 2018 was a tremendous return for the Bills.

Browns gonna Brown. I wonder if they are already regretting the trade lol

I think buffalo is the perfect trading partner for us. I've stated why a million times and won't repost but I stand by my reasoning. I really think its a better option then most realize when you factor in the complexity of the giants situation right now

but I see Mayfield as a welcome addition to the Bills mafia.

He can cut wrestling style promos while fans are body slamming each other through tables.

Sounds about right to me.

If we stay at 2 its far from a given we go qb

Don’t have enough trade capital to get up to 2. They’d need to trade up into the early teens and still have to give up a ton of picks for us to do it.

I do see Beane and Gettleman at least having some discussions about the possibility.

Lining up a trade now would be foolish, unless they already know what teams in front of them are doing. I think its too early.

Is not very convincing logic

Prior to free agency. Why would you lock yourself into something when you don't know what your roster will look like when the draft begins. I would expect the trades are largely done for now and teams let free agency shake out first, get through the pro days, and then firm up their draft strategy.

They must have something locked up.
I'm guessing one of the FA QBs

In comment 13858460 Dave on the UWS said:

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trades ALL the way down to 21. He would have to just about get every pick Buffalo has for the next 2 drafts to consider it.

Dave - I agree.

I do think regardless of what top 10 potential partner Buffalo trades with, they are all going to feel that way. So I look for Buffalo to start inching up the board, taking advantage of teams needing picks.

The most likely initial move they make, assuming Arizona signs a QB, is up to 15. Arizona only has 4 picks. They do have 3 top 100 picks but 4 is tough on a roster.

So I think Buffalo will move up from 22 to 15 or something like that to position the team for more flexibility in moving further up or making another strike coming up. They could do that with 22 and 65 for example.

In comment 13858487 jtgiants said:

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I think buffalo is the perfect trading partner for us. I've stated why a million times and won't repost but I stand by my reasoning. I really think its a better option then most realize when you factor in the complexity of the giants situation right now

Ok, you're crazy.

DG already said he's looking for a HOF type player with the #2 pick. He's not getting one by trading back that far with Buffalo.

I not saying there aren't some advantages to trading back and getting a boat load of picks, but DG is going for a Home Run with his first pick as Giants GM, and I don't see him trading back that far if at all.

The Giants 1st round pick #2, is worth 2600 points on value Board.

The Bills 21st, 22nd, 53rd, 56th, 65th and 96th picks are worth 2,671 points.

You'd at least have to seriously consider trading the #2 pick for two 1s, two 2s, and two 3s this year.

That would be like getting two extra years of premium pick drafts.

Two 1s, three 2s, and three 3s this year could go a long way to rebuilding the roster.
I would do it. I would not want to dilute this year's haul to take 2019 picks.

In comment 13858612 Spirit of '86 said:

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The Giants 1st round pick #2, is worth 2600 points on value Board. The Bills 21st, 22nd, 53rd, 56th, 65th and 96th picks are worth 2,671 points. You'd at least have to seriously consider trading the #2 pick for two 1s, two 2s, and two 3s this year. That would be like getting two extra years of premium pick drafts. Two 1s, three 2s, and three 3s this year could go a long way to rebuilding the roster. I would do it. I would not want to dilute this year's haul to take 2019 picks.

I agree with this. We have lots of holes, and 8 premium picks could net us as many as lets say 6 starters and a few key backups. It absolutely has to be considered. Anyone saying GM will definitely do this or that doesn't have a clue. A trade like this would absolutely be on the table.

In comment 13858708 PatersonPlank said:

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In comment 13858612 Spirit of '86 said: Quote: The Giants 1st round pick #2, is worth 2600 points on value Board. The Bills 21st, 22nd, 53rd, 56th, 65th and 96th picks are worth 2,671 points. You'd at least have to seriously consider trading the #2 pick for two 1s, two 2s, and two 3s this year. That would be like getting two extra years of premium pick drafts. Two 1s, three 2s, and three 3s this year could go a long way to rebuilding the roster. I would do it. I would not want to dilute this year's haul to take 2019 picks. I agree with this. We have lots of holes, and 8 premium picks could net us as many as lets say 6 starters and a few key backups. It absolutely has to be considered. Anyone saying GM will definitely do this or that doesn't have a clue. A trade like this would absolutely be on the table.

I'd say its a pretty good clue when the GM himself says he wants a HOF type player with the #2 pick.

Who exactly is our QB? Guys, Eli will be 38. I love the prospect of accumulating picks, but I think we are just as qb needy of a team as the next. How many more years do you guys think we can roll the dice with Manning?

Buffalo, NY Jets, Minny, Cleveland, Chi, San fran, ...what do these teams(plus others) have in common? They have been mired in mediocrity for long periods of time because they don't have a QB and they are all trying to get their QB. We are in a favorable position with a really old franchise QB at the end and a few blue chip QB prospects in the draft while we hold the 2nd pick. It makes no sense to put ourselves in a position where we are the ones chasing that franchise QB, whether it's signing a mediocre QB like cousins to major money, trading a 2nd round pick for Garroppolo and then paying him 150M or trying to trade up into our spot to take one of these guys. Just take your guy and build around him. It's that simple.

In comment 13858469 Jimmy Googs said:

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In comment 13858460 Dave on the UWS said: Quote: trades ALL the way down to 21. He would have to just about get every pick Buffalo has for the next 2 drafts to consider it. also zero chance anybody on this board knows what DG might do...

Thank You!!!!!!

Thank you. This is what I am trying to say. We are in prime position to grab our next QB. Who knows who it is or if he will work out, but this chance doesn't come up often. I rather have my qb of the future locked up then have a bunch of extra draft picks saved up. Teams spend decades looking for a qb. We may have golden opportunity to go from one franchise qb to the next.
Or, he may flame out, but it's worth the chance.

I'm thinking the with the Colts at 3 or the Browns at 4.

people talk like the guys we'd be drafting from those Buffalo picks would all be hits. 50% of them will prob be out of the NFL in 3 years. We'd be lucky if any of them turned into star players. People are really overthinking this.

In comment 13858747 Keith said:

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Buffalo, NY Jets, Minny, Cleveland, Chi, San fran, ...what do these teams(plus others) have in common? They have been mired in mediocrity for long periods of time because they don't have a QB and they are all trying to get their QB. We are in a favorable position with a really old franchise QB at the end and a few blue chip QB prospects in the draft while we hold the 2nd pick. It makes no sense to put ourselves in a position where we are the ones chasing that franchise QB, whether it's signing a mediocre QB like cousins to major money, trading a 2nd round pick for Garroppolo and then paying him 150M or trying to trade up into our spot to take one of these guys. Just take your guy and build around him. It's that simple.

This. If you feel good about a qb you take him. If you do not feel good trade the pick and get as many premium picks as you can. DG has a handle of the players in this draft and at what point he feels like the talent drops. If there are 5 non Qbs and you think 2 Qbs will be taken early you can still trade to 7 and get one of the 5 players. If here are only 3 players worth a top pick you can drop to 5 assuming 2 Qbs will be taken.

I for 1 think Eli is done so we will need a qb or will be in a similar position next year. You can win with an average team and a good qb but we are a below average team currently and an average at best qb. If we don't go qb DG better have a handle on next year's tractable Qbs because we will be drafting in the top 10 again. This team is a mess.

In comment 13858612 Spirit of '86 said:

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The Giants 1st round pick #2, is worth 2600 points on value Board. The Bills 21st, 22nd, 53rd, 56th, 65th and 96th picks are worth 2,671 points. You'd at least have to seriously consider trading the #2 pick for two 1s, two 2s, and two 3s this year. That would be like getting two extra years of premium pick drafts. Two 1s, three 2s, and three 3s this year could go a long way to rebuilding the roster. I would do it. I would not want to dilute this year's haul to take 2019 picks.

I'm with you on this - and have been for a while. I think they may be able to grab a premium (round 1-3 pick next year as well). 12 picks between rounds 1-3, including some FA signings this year - mostly next year when a lot more $$$ comes off the books, and you have the foundation for an accelerated rebuild. This team has holes in so many spots - this would be the best way IMO to finally turn over a roster and stock with young players to make up for the poor drafting of Reese over the years.

In comment 13858708 PatersonPlank said:

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In comment 13858612 Spirit of '86 said: Quote: The Giants 1st round pick #2, is worth 2600 points on value Board. The Bills 21st, 22nd, 53rd, 56th, 65th and 96th picks are worth 2,671 points. You'd at least have to seriously consider trading the #2 pick for two 1s, two 2s, and two 3s this year. That would be like getting two extra years of premium pick drafts. Two 1s, three 2s, and three 3s this year could go a long way to rebuilding the roster. I would do it. I would not want to dilute this year's haul to take 2019 picks. I agree with this. We have lots of holes, and 8 premium picks could net us as many as lets say 6 starters and a few key backups. It absolutely has to be considered. Anyone saying GM will definitely do this or that doesn't have a clue. A trade like this would absolutely be on the table.

If they could squeeze them for another pick next year.no less than a #2 and I would push for a #1..

I would do the trade in a heartbeat.. The Giants have lots of holes.. also these picks are a lower cost... They can really help the roster.. both starters and depth....

In comment 13858459 Chris L. said:

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Agreed that could be it but I don't see the Eagles trading Foles right away. They will need him to start the season.

If they get the right offer they will move him. His trade value is at it's peak, It's only down from here

I posted the value chart to point out what a trade might look like but I'd rather draft the QB at #2 now if the team is willing to jettison Eli now. I do not want to have the equivalent of 6 premium players (granted a few wouldn't pan out) playing somewhere else while our #2 holds a clipboard for 2 years. This team with Eli has been awful 3 out of the last four years. While Eli looked good at times, he was really bad in the Rams game even before it got out of hand.

In comment 13859163 Spirit of '86 said:

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I posted the value chart to point out what a trade might look like but I'd rather draft the QB at #2 now if the team is willing to jettison Eli now. I do not want to have the equivalent of 6 premium players (granted a few wouldn't pan out) playing somewhere else while our #2 holds a clipboard for 2 years. This team with Eli has been awful 3 out of the last four years. While Eli looked good at times, he was really bad in the Rams game even before it got out of hand.

Well if they decide to keep Eli, then I'm not sure why they would not seriously consider trading down. The decision on Eli comes down to having him restructure IMO. If they get rid of him - then yes - take the QB at #2.

I have seen a lot of comparisons to 2004, when Eli was the Kurt Warner and Rosen/Darnold was the Eli. IMO - what made that work was having Tiki running for 1600, 1700,1800 yards while Eli grew into the role. I do not see that type of back at all on this team now.