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battttles : 3/11/2018 11:09 am
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DRC is more than a slot corner  
robbieballs2003 : 3/11/2018 12:24 pm : link
They moved him there because he was the most logical choice.
Panthers fans warned us about these type of moves with Gettleman  
OdellBeckhamJr : 3/11/2018 12:24 pm : link
god this sucks.
RE: Panthers fans warned us about these type of moves with Gettleman  
Go Terps : 3/11/2018 12:28 pm : link
In comment 13858626 OdellBeckhamJr said:
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god this sucks.


This is one of the worst teams in the league. Why would we want it kept together?
Told to move from his position because of Eli Apple  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/11/2018 12:31 pm : link
then cut because he wouldn't take a paycut after a down year. Nice.
Knew he had a down year  
j_rud : 3/11/2018 12:33 pm : link
but that tweet from Pat is an eye opener. He really fell off a cliff. He was 2nd team All Pro in 2016. I think the hand wringing is misplaced, this roster is a mess and it's going to take a rebuild. There's no quick fix here.
RE: RE: Panthers fans warned us about these type of moves with Gettleman  
robbieballs2003 : 3/11/2018 12:33 pm : link
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god this sucks.



This is one of the worst teams in the league. Why would we want it kept together?


Baby ... bath water. Yeah. Just because a TEAM has a bad year doesn't mean every piece of that team needs to go. That is just ridiculous.
RE: RE: RE: Panthers fans warned us about these type of moves with Gettleman  
13ODB : 3/11/2018 12:35 pm : link
In comment 13858643 robbieballs2003 said:
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god this sucks.



This is one of the worst teams in the league. Why would we want it kept together?



Baby ... bath water. Yeah. Just because a TEAM has a bad year doesn't mean every piece of that team needs to go. That is just ridiculous.


One bad year? This team has been a shot show since 2012
DRC is a good player  
mattnyg05 : 3/11/2018 12:35 pm : link
At a tough position. It sucks when guys like JPP are making what they make after having a less than zero impact season and we can’t pay a good corner 6 million dollars.

We have a lot of holes but to me this just creates another one. If you really like Apple (I’m not sure how that’s possible, but ok) then keeping DRC would give you 3 decent to good CBS which is the minimum. I agree that the whole team sucked but this just doesn’t make sense to me.
RE: RE: At some point  
The_Boss : 3/11/2018 12:38 pm : link
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Gettleman is going to look at age and look at the reality that while technically the Giants should try to rebuild and win, this is not a 1 year turn around. Not with a 37 year old QB. Time to get younger.

If I'm the Giants, I'm going QB, let Eli keep the team competitive while they groom his successor, but if you aren't a core player and you are nearing or on the wrong side of 30, they should be cleared out.


I agree with everything you say, except why "...let Eli keep the team competitive?"

Mediocre and drafting 16th ain't a great way to go.

Eli gives us little -- if any -- chance to get back to the Super Bowl.

Much prefer our #2 QB draft choice become an immediate starter and that the Giants find Eli another team that might benefit from his remaining skill-set.


I think you're not totally understanding how bad Eli was last season, WR's or not. He couldn't throw deep, intermediate, or short (even swing passes at the LOS). None of that is likely to improve at age 37. Eli or not, this is a 5/6 win team.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Panthers fans warned us about these type of moves with Gettleman  
robbieballs2003 : 3/11/2018 12:38 pm : link
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god this sucks.



This is one of the worst teams in the league. Why would we want it kept together?



Baby ... bath water. Yeah. Just because a TEAM has a bad year doesn't mean every piece of that team needs to go. That is just ridiculous.



One bad year? This team has been a shot show since 2012


And the prior year we had a great defense and went 11-5 and he played awesome. You missed the part and are focusing on the wrong part. But keep trying.
RE: Panthers fans warned us about these type of moves with Gettleman  
13ODB : 3/11/2018 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13858626 OdellBeckhamJr said:
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god this sucks.


He is going to be 32 in April and he’s not worth what he was making. I love what Gettleman is doing it’s about time we had a GM with balls!!!!!
RE: I don't get or like this move  
Section331 : 3/11/2018 12:41 pm : link
In comment 13858506 Mark from Jersey said:
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must be more locker room motivated. He is pretty solid.


I don’t like it either, but I’m not so sure it is locker room related. I think the Giants tried to renegotiate his cap number, and both parties couldn’t come to an agreement.
RE: RE: Panthers fans warned us about these type of moves with Gettleman  
jeff57 : 3/11/2018 12:42 pm : link
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god this sucks.



This is one of the worst teams in the league. Why would we want it kept together?


Agree. This team needs a serious rebuild. Horrible OL and LBs. Bad RBs. An aging QB. They have several good players at other positions, but they’re in no position to compete with their current roster.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Panthers fans warned us about these type of moves with Gettleman  
13ODB : 3/11/2018 12:42 pm : link
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god this sucks.



This is one of the worst teams in the league. Why would we want it kept together?



Baby ... bath water. Yeah. Just because a TEAM has a bad year doesn't mean every piece of that team needs to go. That is just ridiculous.



One bad year? This team has been a shot show since 2012



And the prior year we had a great defense and went 11-5 and he played awesome. You missed the part and are focusing on the wrong part. But keep trying.


How about 2014 15 and last year??? Please the defense played a soft ass schedule in 2016 against some awful teams like the browns rams bears ravens bengals those offenses were terrible that year. Wht happen in the steeler and packer games that year we couldn’t make a dam stop. Defense was overrated in 2016 don’t care what anyone says
Baby with the bath water?  
Go Terps : 3/11/2018 12:44 pm : link
The entire tub should go out the window.

The more changes to the roster the better.
Gettleman’s first tough cut I guess...  
trueblueinpw : 3/11/2018 12:46 pm : link
Hart was a no brainer, jerk in the locker room with marginal talent. Wing sucked. Let the “in DG we trust era begin”.
13ODB  
robbieballs2003 : 3/11/2018 12:49 pm : link
What does all that have to do with DRC? He has played well other than last year and last year was a shit show. Yes, the team hasn't played well in years but that isn't the point. The point is that he has played well and we sucked last year. Just because of that doesn't mean he has to go along with everybody else. GoTerps' comment was why should we care if anybody stays. My comment was that the baby doesn't need to be thrown out with the bathwater. It is a simple concept to understand. Cherry picking one piece of my post is just ridiculous on your end. He was an all-pro player in 2016 after switching to a new position because Apple couldn't handle it so he was being a team player and succeeded in that role. Also, releasing him just creates another hole to fill. Imo, $6.48 mil is a good value for what he brings to the table. I will give Gettleman the benefit of the doubt here because he has been doing some good stuff so far but I wouldn't have done this. I would have found money elsewhere.
Damn  
Rflairr : 3/11/2018 12:50 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 3/11/2018 12:51 pm : link
CB is a major need now.

Hate this move.
I forwarned  
JonC : 3/11/2018 12:55 pm : link
Look for a veteran at $3-4M.
forewarned  
JonC : 3/11/2018 12:57 pm : link
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Quite clear that a new regime is here & going to make  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/11/2018 12:57 pm : link
some tough, but probably necessary moves long term.
If/when the Giants drop Marshall and Harris as well...  
Milton : 3/11/2018 1:02 pm : link
It'll put their salary cap room at roughly $27M (with $9.5M of that needed to sign draft picks).
'One year early rather than one year late.'  
MOOPS : 3/11/2018 1:02 pm : link
Big cap savings. Gotta trust Gettleman. Let's see what he brings in.
DG isn't making these moves  
mrvax : 3/11/2018 1:02 pm : link
haphazardly. Gotta trust he has a plan.
I like DRC  
Giants86 : 3/11/2018 1:03 pm : link
but it is what it is.

No regime, big changes.
Well, the Seahawks cut...  
LarmerTJR : 3/11/2018 1:06 pm : link
All their CBS yesterday...so there’s that.
Fine with me  
JerseyCityJoe : 3/11/2018 1:08 pm : link
Clear the decks.
Mixed signals  
Marty866b : 3/11/2018 1:15 pm : link
Are we trying to win next year or rebuild?
RE: RE: Panthers fans warned us about these type of moves with Gettleman  
OdellBeckhamJr : 3/11/2018 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13858630 Go Terps said:
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god this sucks.



This is one of the worst teams in the league. Why would we want it kept together?


Because DRC is still a game changer.
RE: RE: Panthers fans warned us about these type of moves with Gettleman  
OdellBeckhamJr : 3/11/2018 1:18 pm : link
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god this sucks.



He is going to be 32 in April and he’s not worth what he was making. I love what Gettleman is doing it’s about time we had a GM with balls!!!!!


I guarantee if we extended him today you'd be raving about the move.
Need the $$ to address the OL  
RobCarpenter : 3/11/2018 1:21 pm : link
And the OL has been a dumpster fire for at least 5 years.
Man there are people really kidding themselves about what this team is  
Go Terps : 3/11/2018 1:21 pm : link
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The_Boss : 3/11/2018 1:23 pm : link
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god this sucks.



He is going to be 32 in April and he’s not worth what he was making. I love what Gettleman is doing it’s about time we had a GM with balls!!!!!



I guarantee if we extended him today you'd be raving about the move.


He’s 32 + on a bad team. That’s an equation that should result in a cap casualty 10 out of 10 times.
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clatterbuck : 3/11/2018 1:26 pm : link
In comment 13858652 The_Boss said:
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Gettleman is going to look at age and look at the reality that while technically the Giants should try to rebuild and win, this is not a 1 year turn around. Not with a 37 year old QB. Time to get younger.

If I'm the Giants, I'm going QB, let Eli keep the team competitive while they groom his successor, but if you aren't a core player and you are nearing or on the wrong side of 30, they should be cleared out.


I agree with everything you say, except why "...let Eli keep the team competitive?"

Mediocre and drafting 16th ain't a great way to go.

Eli gives us little -- if any -- chance to get back to the Super Bowl.

Much prefer our #2 QB draft choice become an immediate starter and that the Giants find Eli another team that might benefit from his remaining skill-set.



I think you're not totally understanding how bad Eli was last season, WR's or not. He couldn't throw deep, intermediate, or short (even swing passes at the LOS). None of that is likely to improve at age 37. Eli or not, this is a 5/6 win team.


He couldn't throw deep, intermediate or short? How did he did throw for 3,500 yards, 19 TDs, and had a QB rating of 80 while playing without his starting WRs?
RE: Mixed signals  
Rflairr : 3/11/2018 1:26 pm : link
In comment 13858696 Marty866b said:
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Are we trying to win next year or rebuild?


Can’t figure it out. They just cut one of their best players. A team with a lot of holes to fill. Just created another.

Guess they don’t dare ask Eli to take the pay cut.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Panthers fans warned us about these type of moves with Gettleman  
OdellBeckhamJr : 3/11/2018 1:29 pm : link
In comment 13858715 The_Boss said:
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god this sucks.



He is going to be 32 in April and he’s not worth what he was making. I love what Gettleman is doing it’s about time we had a GM with balls!!!!!



I guarantee if we extended him today you'd be raving about the move.



He’s 32 + on a bad team. That’s an equation that should result in a cap casualty 10 out of 10 times.


Should have traded him, he's going to earn more than $6.5M/year on his next team.
RE: Man there are people really kidding themselves about what this team is  
The_Boss : 3/11/2018 1:31 pm : link
In comment 13858711 Go Terps said:
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For real. They like to point to the aberration that was 2016, but that D looked better playing some bad offenses. This team reverted back to the bad team it was from 2013, 2014 and 2015 last season.
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RobCarpenter : 3/11/2018 1:34 pm : link
In comment 13858723 Rflairr said:
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Are we trying to win next year or rebuild?



Can’t figure it out. They just cut one of their best players. A team with a lot of holes to fill. Just created another.

Guess they don’t dare ask Eli to take the pay cut.


Best player?
secondary still has 2 all-pro players in collins and jenkins  
GiantsFan84 : 3/11/2018 1:39 pm : link
added a very good coverage LB in Ogletree. they will be able to manage in the secondary
I wonder if Fitzpatrick  
Jay in Toronto : 3/11/2018 1:40 pm : link
is very high on their Board and a trade of picks with Cleveland he should still be there at #4.
RE: At some point  
GoBlue6599 : 3/11/2018 1:41 pm : link
In comment 13858563 Matt in SGS said:
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Gettleman is going to look at age and look at the reality that while technically the Giants should try to rebuild and win, this is not a 1 year turn around. Not with a 37 year old QB. Time to get younger.

If I'm the Giants, I'm going QB, let Eli keep the team competitive while they groom his successor, but if you aren't a core player and you are nearing or on the wrong side of 30, they should be cleared out.

I Agree with this
To tell you the truth I think DRC  
NikkiMac : 3/11/2018 1:45 pm : link
Was the cancer on the team it started when he didn’t like Goodson telling him what to do ..... good riddance probably wanted to be released anyway knowing there are other teams with a lot of cap space always gets hurt after a tackle adios pal .....
DG is decisive  
KeoweeFan : 3/11/2018 1:45 pm : link
I said last niht that I thought the time DRC would have to decide would be short.
I didn't think Gettleman was in a negotiating mood.
Take it or leave it.
Who's next, and what will their posture be after witnessing this transaction?
I'm suprised we couldn't at least get back a 6th round pick for him  
est1986 : 3/11/2018 1:46 pm : link
His deal wasn't bad for a starting corner. A little more than a year ago they named him 2nd team all-pro. Until I see where the money goes/who the money goes to, this is a bad move IMO. Solder and Norwell need to be brought in.
RE: Pay cut??  
Giants1956 : 3/11/2018 1:46 pm : link
In comment 13858620 eclipz928 said:
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You're not going to find a veteran CB worth starting that is going to cost less than the $6.5mil DRC was due to make. The Giants better have good plan for the secondary, because right now this move doesn't make much sense.


Unless DRC is a locker room problem. If he's isn't
I'd have kept him for one more year. There must be big
plans in FA. I presume there is going to be 2 major
FA's.
BBI demands change  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/11/2018 1:50 pm : link
BBI frets after the change occurs

Pretty sure they know what they are doing and why they are doing it.
RE: don't like the move either  
AcidTest : 3/11/2018 1:51 pm : link
In comment 13858513 Chip said:
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but if it brings us Norwell and Cockrell it is a good trade.


Agreed. I also agree with Sammo85 that he's not coming back. Best wishes.
This is what running a good football team looks like  
sharpshooter66 : 3/11/2018 2:01 pm : link
I would suggest getting used to it
RE: BBI demands change  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/11/2018 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13858767 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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BBI frets after the change occurs

Pretty sure they know what they are doing and why they are doing it.


I think that remains to be seen. It's not like this franchise is on a run of good decisions.
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