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La Canfora says Norwell to the Giants

Big Rick in FL : 3/11/2018 5:05 pm
La Canfora says it would be a huge upset if Norwell ended up anywhere other then New York. I know people don't like La Canfora on here, but he's definitely been most accurate writer when it comes to the Giants. At least since Gettleman took over.

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If Andrew Norwell, the top offensive lineman on the open market, lands anywhere other than the Giants it will be considered a major upset throughout the industry. He is a player Giants GM Dave Gettleman knows well from their time together in Carolina, and the Giants are desperate to finally actually upgrade their offensive line Ö
Not exactly what he said  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/11/2018 5:06 pm : link
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Danny Kanell : 3/11/2018 5:06 pm : link
Awful thread title
Yeah I forgot a word.  
Big Rick in FL : 3/11/2018 5:08 pm : link
You'll all live lol
well La Canfora has been more accurate for  
madgiantscow009 : 3/11/2018 5:10 pm : link
about 3 months.
A lot of reporters have said this  
djstat : 3/11/2018 5:12 pm : link
Sadly my fear of Carolina players always comes back to Jon Beason
RE: A lot of reporters have said this  
Big Rick in FL : 3/11/2018 5:13 pm : link
In comment 13859062 djstat said:
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Sadly my fear of Carolina players always comes back to Jon Beason


Why? Beason was an injured player before he got here. Norwell isn't.
Cole to the Yankees was a done deal, too  
Milton : 3/11/2018 5:14 pm : link
Unless we hear something more specific, it's just people connecting the dots. And the dots are not always to be trusted.
"Norwell to the Giants"  
mrvax : 3/11/2018 5:14 pm : link
would be illegal tampering, I think. But I've got my fingers crossed.
Makes even more sense after the DRC release  
jeff57 : 3/11/2018 5:31 pm : link
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Ho, God please let this happen  
RobCrossRiver56 : 3/11/2018 5:33 pm : link
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other possible destinations  
bc4life : 3/11/2018 5:42 pm : link
what about Cleveland?
RE: other possible destinations  
jeff57 : 3/11/2018 5:45 pm : link
In comment 13859090 bc4life said:
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what about Cleveland?


San Fran other most likely. Cleveland signed Zeitler last year.
RE: other possible destinations  
TommyWiseau : 3/11/2018 5:46 pm : link
In comment 13859090 bc4life said:
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what about Cleveland?


Everyone keeps touting Nelson to them at 4 and now Norwell. They have 2 top flight guards already. Zeitler ans Bitonio
RE: Cole to the Yankees was a done deal, too  
GFAN52 : 3/11/2018 6:01 pm : link
In comment 13859068 Milton said:
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Unless we hear something more specific, it's just people connecting the dots. And the dots are not always to be trusted.


Don't also forget Shohei Otani was once considered an early slam dunk signing with the Yankees.
DG may need to be dialing up Eli tomorrow  
Jimmy Googs : 3/11/2018 6:09 pm : link
if he needs money to outbid Cleveland for players...
If I were Eli  
CT Charlie : 3/11/2018 6:13 pm : link
I'd rather have some hog mollies to keep me upright, than a few more dollars that I really don't need.

But Eli's not me.
RE: If I were Eli  
mrvax : 3/11/2018 6:16 pm : link
In comment 13859116 CT Charlie said:
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I'd rather have some hog mollies to keep me upright, than a few more dollars that I really don't need.

But Eli's not me.


I'd feel the same, rather another title.
RE: DG may need to be dialing up Eli tomorrow  
EddieNYG : 3/11/2018 6:17 pm : link
In comment 13859111 Jimmy Googs said:
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if he needs money to outbid Cleveland for players...


For Norwell??

Cleveland's starting Guards

LG - Joel Bitonio (6-year, $51M contract extension signed in 2017)
RG - Kevin Zeitler (5-year, $60M contract signed in 2017)

Where are they playing Norwell?
If Cleveland has 2 top flight OGs  
twostepgiants : 3/11/2018 6:20 pm : link
Then thats not much of an argument for their importance.

They didnt win a single game
RE: If Cleveland has 2 top flight OGs  
Jay on the Island : 3/11/2018 6:27 pm : link
In comment 13859134 twostepgiants said:
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Then thats not much of an argument for their importance.

They didnt win a single game

A good reason why it is foolish to use the #2 overall pick on a guard.
we will know  
Dave on the UWS : 3/11/2018 6:27 pm : link
after 12 tom.
How is this news....  
NYBlueinPA : 3/11/2018 6:34 pm : link
People have been speculating this for months, ever since Gettleman signed on. It is not done till it is done and if so it will be no surprise to anyone.
RE: RE: If Cleveland has 2 top flight OGs  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/11/2018 6:35 pm : link
In comment 13859145 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13859134 twostepgiants said:


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Then thats not much of an argument for their importance.

They didnt win a single game


A good reason why it is foolish to use the #2 overall pick on a guard.


They also have a hall of fame left tackle. Is that also not important?

Cleveland has some excellent linemen. That has nothing to do with why they're winless and unsuccessful.
Bitonio  
bc4life : 3/11/2018 6:45 pm : link
he was kid from Las Vegas? I remember some on BBI wanting Giants to draft him
RE: Bitonio  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/11/2018 6:58 pm : link
In comment 13859164 bc4life said:
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he was kid from Las Vegas? I remember some on BBI wanting Giants to draft him


He's a quality player. Zeitler is probably better.
RE: RE: DG may need to be dialing up Eli tomorrow  
Jimmy Googs : 3/11/2018 6:59 pm : link
In comment 13859128 EddieNYG said:
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In comment 13859111 Jimmy Googs said:


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if he needs money to outbid Cleveland for players...



For Norwell??

Cleveland's starting Guards

LG - Joel Bitonio (6-year, $51M contract extension signed in 2017)
RG - Kevin Zeitler (5-year, $60M contract signed in 2017)

Where are they playing Norwell?


Didnt say Norwell. Just add-libbing to other posts in thread...
I thought one of the reasons why Gettleman  
short lease : 3/11/2018 7:42 pm : link
was fired was because the players hated him? Why would one of his ex-players follow him here? I know there has been a lot of talk about the Giants being interested in Norwell but, I can't figure out why he would come here (besides money) if the rumors were true about Gettleman?


Personally I like Gettleman's seemingly no nonsense approach.
RE: Bitonio  
Jay on the Island : 3/11/2018 7:45 pm : link
In comment 13859164 bc4life said:
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he was kid from Las Vegas? I remember some on BBI wanting Giants to draft him

The Giants reportedly would have drafted Bitonio if he had fallen to them. Unfortunately he didn't and they took Richburg instead. Bitonio has developed into one of the best guards in football.
RE: I thought one of the reasons why Gettleman  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/11/2018 8:22 pm : link
In comment 13859198 short lease said:
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was fired was because the players hated him? Why would one of his ex-players follow him here? I know there has been a lot of talk about the Giants being interested in Norwell but, I can't figure out why he would come here (besides money) if the rumors were true about Gettleman?


Personally I like Gettleman's seemingly no nonsense approach.


He was fired because he wanted to get rid of some of the Owner's favorite guys and there was a difference of opinion. He wasn't universally hated by all his players.
I'm expecting NYG to make an early offer  
JonC : 3/11/2018 8:43 pm : link
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Miseadling thread title  
Metnut : 3/11/2018 8:51 pm : link
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Landing Norwell will be a nice start  
Rjanyg : 3/11/2018 8:57 pm : link
To rebuilding the O Line. I think RT is the next target: Hubbard or Fleming. Draft Hernandez and you are looking at a pretty solid rebuild.
Jonc  
jayg5 : 3/11/2018 9:09 pm : link
To Norwell? Or others?
Norwell  
JonC : 3/11/2018 9:09 pm : link
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Rjanyg  
Dragon : 3/11/2018 9:15 pm : link
Why. How does one player make this line better or superior I just donít get that when you need four or five guys not one. If you said the Giants are one RG away from having a great OL I would be all in but thatís very far from reality.

Now you want to add what should amount to the highest paid OG in the league to a line with maybe one or letís be kind two possible starters available. Does he make the running game special all by himself what about the passing game. This is the kind of moves teams close to championship makes not bottom of the barrel teams.
RE: A lot of reporters have said this  
Brown Recluse : 3/11/2018 9:15 pm : link
In comment 13859062 djstat said:
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Sadly my fear of Carolina players always comes back to Jon Beason


SYNAPSE!
RE: If Cleveland has 2 top flight OGs  
Chris in Philly : 3/11/2018 9:21 pm : link
In comment 13859134 twostepgiants said:
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Then thats not much of an argument for their importance.

They didnt win a single game


I think it probably speaks more to the value of a good QB and a competent head coach, donít you?
RE: Rjanyg  
Rjanyg : 3/11/2018 10:27 pm : link
In comment 13859289 Dragon said:
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Why. How does one player make this line better or superior I just donít get that when you need four or five guys not one. If you said the Giants are one RG away from having a great OL I would be all in but thatís very far from reality.

Now you want to add what should amount to the highest paid OG in the league to a line with maybe one or letís be kind two possible starters available. Does he make the running game special all by himself what about the passing game. This is the kind of moves teams close to championship makes not bottom of the barrel teams.


Dragon,

Norwell is a 26 year old all pro guard. He will be signed to a long term contract, I can assume 5 years. Locking up 1 of the 5 positions with a known superior player is very important to the proper building of the whole unit. It is also smart to back load the contract so we can sign other pieces, like Fleming who is also 26 years old and should come at a reasonable contract. Jone will be you starting Center. I suggested drafting Will Hernandez in round 2. So, that is 4 of the 5 positions. Flowers and Wheeler will fight it out for LT. Let's say Flowers starts for one more year, here is your line:

Flowers, Norwell, Jones, Hernandez, Fleming. All the players will be in their prime and all are healthy. I'll take this line over last years line
RE: A lot of reporters have said this  
Dr. D : 3/11/2018 10:38 pm : link
In comment 13859062 djstat said:
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Sadly my fear of Carolina players always comes back to Jon Beason

I don't want to be mean, but what the hell does Beason have to do with Norwell? Beason was an oft-injured LB past his prime (after 2-3 years of injuries). Norwell is none of that.

If we had this type of attitude, we would never sign anyone (because some guy from some team was past his prime and didn't work out, we can never sign a player from that team?)
RE: RE: I thought one of the reasons why Gettleman  
short lease : 3/11/2018 11:45 pm : link
In comment 13859239 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13859198 short lease said:


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was fired was because the players hated him? Why would one of his ex-players follow him here? I know there has been a lot of talk about the Giants being interested in Norwell but, I can't figure out why he would come here (besides money) if the rumors were true about Gettleman?


Personally I like Gettleman's seemingly no nonsense approach.



He was fired because he wanted to get rid of some of the Owner's favorite guys and there was a difference of opinion. He wasn't universally hated by all his players.


Okay ... maybe we have a chance. I heard it different but, it was right after he got fired and people were surprised because just 2 seasons earlier they were in the SB. But, the reports that I heard might have been inaccurate and pre-mature.

Either way - I like his style. Seems like an old school disciplinarian (ala Tom Coughlin).
Money  
Dragon : 3/12/2018 5:27 am : link
Guys why take less money and go to a team years away from winning? Ask yourself why would you sign on with the Giants with the present condition this team is in.
RE: Money  
Rjanyg : 3/12/2018 7:21 am : link
In comment 13859424 Dragon said:
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Guys why take less money and go to a team years away from winning? Ask yourself why would you sign on with the Giants with the present condition this team is in.


Why did Shawn OHara, Kareem McKenzie, Antonio Pierce and Plaxico Burress sign here? It is probably a combo of $, fit, $ and connection with coaches. The Giants have a good rep on treating players well. New facilities, newer stadium, NY City really offers players opportunities.
RE: A lot of reporters have said this  
JohnnyFlowers : 3/12/2018 10:07 am : link
In comment 13859062 djstat said:
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Sadly my fear of Carolina players always comes back to Jon Beason


Ok, so provide us with a list of the teams we never had an unsucceful trade with or free agent signing and then we can see what is left.
I'm not sure I follow the "fear" of Carolina players  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/12/2018 10:09 am : link
Do the Giants have any history of importing Carolina players?
Re: Yeah, I forgot one word.  
Beezer : 3/12/2018 11:30 am : link

Patient: Doc, what's the prognosis?

Doc: You will live.

Patient: That's great news!

Doc: Oh. Uh, sorry. Meant, you will NOT live. Eh, I forgot one word ...

RE: Money  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 3/12/2018 11:35 am : link
In comment 13859424 Dragon said:
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Guys why take less money and go to a team years away from winning? Ask yourself why would you sign on with the Giants with the present condition this team is in.


I hear this argument frequently, yet players sign contracts with shitty teams all the time.
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