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pjcas18 : 3/12/2018 12:27 pm
so most of the hockey fans on BBI have their teams eliminated or close to it. See if anyone wants to discuss the tank-a-thon or playoffs.

Pretty much eliminated (of the BBI fan teams):
Rangers
Canadiens
Islanders
Senators
Hurricanes


Some fans still have teams alive
Bruins
Capitals
I've seen a Flyers fan on here

and of course our Penguins fan, plus the lone Vegas Knights fan.

Anyway more of us probably interested in Rasmus Dahlin than playoff seeding, but still some good races left.

Most teams have between 12 and 15 games left.

The Lightning and Predators, the two conference leaders, are on absolute fire. Both 9 - 0 - 1 in their last 10.

The Jets (my darkhorse) are also pretty hot.

And Patrik Laine is now in elite company, he's tied Gretzky for 3rd most goals as a teen. Interestingly that's not the 1st most, Jimmy Carson (92) and Dale Hawerchuck (85) both have more than Laine who currently has 76, but what Laine is doing is impressive since it's being done in a lower scoring era.

If the season ended today draft order (subject to lottery of course) would be:

Arizona
Buffalo
Ottawa
Vancouver
Montreal
Detroit
Edmonton
Rangers
Chicago
Islanders
Carolina
Islanders (from Calgary)
Columbus
Philly (from St Louis)
Anaheim

A lot of movement will take place in that group, plus the lottery will shuffle things, but just my view it's a strong top of the draft.

Current playoff matchups would be:

East
TAM vs CBJ
BOS vs TOR
PIT vs NJD
WAS vs PHI

still alive: FLA, CAR

West
LVG vs DAL
SJS vs ANA
NSH vs COL
WIN vs MIN

Still alive: LAK, CAL, STL

some good matchups
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Rangers are going to finish 7th, but 8, 9, and 10 will win the lottery  
BrettNYG10 : 4/6/2018 11:37 am : link
Picks.

Or maybe just 8 and 9 will, and the Flames will be the third team to win.
That was terrific results for once last night  
MetsAreBack : 4/6/2018 11:44 am : link
now these fuckstains better not blow this on Saturday. While it would be fun on some level to KO Philly from a playoff berth, it would also take 2 Florida victories combined by a Philly regulation loss for it to happen, and that's a long shot.

Thankfully, Florida won last night and keeps the pressure on Philly who must collect a point saturday afternoon to clinch a postseason berth.

So lose in regulation and hope Chicago can scratch out two points in its last two games and Edmonton can take care of Vancouver at home and we're looking at 7th pick - which also improves our odds of landing in the top 3 to 20.5% from 16% currently.

Whatever you do ... do not win Saturday. That could push us back to 10th which only has 11% odds.
and fyi  
MetsAreBack : 4/6/2018 11:55 am : link
we'll "win" the tiebreaker against Chicago (less ROW, went 0-2 head to head).. so we just need them to get one more point.

Would lose it to Edmonton if they OTL and we lose - same ROW, went 2-0 vs them... so we'll need them to beat Vancouver at home.

Its so much fun rooting for all my teams draft positions the past year instead of looking forward to playoffs... but hey, Mets are 5-1 --
Unrelated  
pjcas18 : 4/6/2018 12:32 pm : link
but interesting, Notre Dame beats Michigan to advance to the NCAA hockey finals vs Minnesota Duluth tomorrow night at 7:30.

This would be incredible  
pjcas18 : 4/6/2018 4:23 pm : link
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Evan Sporer
‏ @ev_sporer

The NHL just announced thereís a scenario in which the Flyers and Panthers would have to play a tie-breaking game. Itís complicated, and 100% what everyone should be rooting for:


Hell no I'm not rooting for that  
Greg from LI : 4/6/2018 4:25 pm : link
Draft position uber alles
Hank said he remembers  
pjcas18 : 4/6/2018 4:38 pm : link
2009 - 2010 when the Flyers beat the Rangers on the last day of the season to knock the Rangers out of the playoffs and he wants revenge. (or something like that)

Clearly he's not on board with the tankathon.
Hank also said the other day  
MetsAreBack : 4/6/2018 4:43 pm : link
he understands the youth movement "late this year" but that next year the franchise needs to get back to winning.

I get it - an athlete should always try hard, but if he's saying these things to try and get fans/media to pressure Gorton to win now... then I love you Hank .... but move the fuck on and waive your NMC. This team isnt even close... not even close... to contending again.

I posted stats the other day, maybe above on this thread, that even over the last month when our record isnt that bad... this teams metrics are absolutely brutal.

If we're quiet this offseason, and we should be, I'm very confident we can land a top 3 pick next summer. This team right now is.. really, really.. bad. Its just a damn fuckin' shame we won so many fluke games throughout the season, and especially the last month while being pinned in our own end for 60%+ of those games.

Went 4-0 against Carolina despite them DOUBLING our shot totals in those games. Hank would actually be a nice fit for them, by the way. With adequate goaltending let alone Hank level - Carolina is easily a playoff team.
And on the Flyers-Panthers tie  
MetsAreBack : 4/6/2018 4:44 pm : link
hell the fuck no. Just win in regulation tomorrow and wrap this up, Philly.

Florida already has to play a makeup game sunday night at like 9pm on the road in Boston for a snowstorm a few months back... they'd have nothing in the tank for a 1 game playoff anyway.
Jack Hughes  
pjcas18 : 4/6/2018 4:49 pm : link
is supposed to be Matthews-esque.

not Dahlin/McDavid class from what I've heard so far, I have not seen him much yet to have my own opinion, but nonetheless he's the #1 prospect right now for 2019.

it's hard to tank in hockey. the players and coaches won't do it, so you just have to hope the opponent has something to play for and let's face it if you're in this position you haven't been a good team all year, so tanking shouldn't be required.

but the players, even if they embrace a rebuild, won't lay down.

I read about him the other day  
MetsAreBack : 4/6/2018 5:11 pm : link
his numbers are sick and he's young... but i've also read he's 5' 10" and 155 pounds soaking wet.

Are we talking upside of Matthews or of Goudreau here? (Goudreau isnt a bad consolation prize).

Hey- if we can lose in reg saturday and get help from Chicago and Edmonton we've got a 21% shot at landing in the top 3... Dolan's never had any lottery luck at all, maybe he's due?? So you're saying there's a chance!!
He's 16 years old  
pjcas18 : 4/6/2018 5:32 pm : link
I read that Mathew Barzal grew 2 inches from the first central scouting ranking to the draft. Hughes is already listed at 5' 10".

if he's Gaudreau or Matthews it's a huge win. Gaudreau is the most creative player in the league and Matthews is a superstar center.

You should be able to see Hughes if you want to form your own opinion later this month in the U18 WJC. It starts 4/19. He's the youngest player on the USA team and probably the youngest in the whole tournament or close to it.

Also notable on team USA in this tournament:

Adam Samuelsson - Ulf's son (Kjell's son is also in this upcoming draft)

Mattias Samuelsson - Kjell's son

Oliver Wahlstrom - top 10 - 12 pick in this upcoming draft - Harvard commit though


Alex Turcotte - 2019 draft prospect

and more from non-US teams like maybe Svechnikov, Zadina, Dahlin - all eligible, not sure if they're all playing.
This is insane  
pjcas18 : 4/6/2018 6:24 pm : link
Panthers fans "so far" have committed to donating over $350k to Hank's foundation if the Rangers beat the Flyers Saturday.

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BarDown
‏Verified account @BarDown
7m7 minutes ago

.@FlaPanthers fans are pledging to donate a ton of money to #Lundqvist's foundation (@HLundqvistFDN) if the @NYRangers beat the @NHLFlyers. MORE @ https://www.bardown.com/1.1049388

Started by @TaylorCraig

Link - ( New Window )
RE: Rangers with a chance to get to 8th  
baadbill : 4/6/2018 7:12 pm : link
In comment 13901072 Kyle in NY said:
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I haven't been pushing the tank as hard as others....


Maybe if we all truly believe and "push the tank", we can actually influence the outcome of tomorrow's game!!!
Fuck off Florida losers  
Greg from LI : 4/6/2018 7:32 pm : link
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First of all that's a load of shit  
MetsAreBack : 4/7/2018 11:14 am : link
No Florida panthers fan or fans cares enough about hockey to donate $350k. Second they still have to win two games including up in Boston tomorrow who may be playing for a one seed and avoid Toronto in round 1 even if philly loses in regulation so nobody is wasting their money like that.

Most of their home games this year before the spring break crowd came were <5000. There's zero fan base.

So That story has got to be some trumped up bullshit or marketing ploy by viola or whatever the owners name is.

RE: RE: Rangers with a chance to get to 8th  
Kyle in NY : 4/7/2018 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13903215 baadbill said:
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In comment 13901072 Kyle in NY said:


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I haven't been pushing the tank as hard as others....



Maybe if we all truly believe and "push the tank", we can actually influence the outcome of tomorrow's game!!!


Cool post. Tell us again about how youíre sitting back enjoying this all because itís out of your hands! Youíve only repeated it 25 times by now
Getting the job done  
Kyle in NY : 4/7/2018 4:53 pm : link
But why subject Hank to this nonsense?
RE: Getting the job done  
pjcas18 : 4/7/2018 4:59 pm : link
In comment 13904346 Kyle in NY said:
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But why subject Hank to this nonsense?


yeah, there goes the donation to Hank's foundation, LOL, if it was even real.
Did what we could  
MetsAreBack : 4/7/2018 5:38 pm : link
But hawks and oilers need to show some pride tonight. Hopefully Winnipeg rests everybody and the canucks are spent from their home finale / Sedin twins sendoff.

I expect the hawks to lose in winnipeg - but if Edmonton tanks at home to lowly Vancouver I will be very annoyed.
That damn western Canada trip  
MetsAreBack : 4/7/2018 5:40 pm : link
With the 95% save percentage and 15% shooting percentage ... cost us dearly. Maybe Dolan will get some lottery luck for once but as with the knicks it's more likely someone behind us jumps up into top 3 and pushes us back
It's over  
MetsAreBack : 4/7/2018 5:45 pm : link
Good riddance to this fucking team. Without some puck luck this was easily a bottom 3 league team. Damn shame Dahlin isn't realistic.
RE: It's over  
pjcas18 : 4/7/2018 5:48 pm : link
In comment 13904393 MetsAreBack said:
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Good riddance to this fucking team. Without some puck luck this was easily a bottom 3 league team. Damn shame Dahlin isn't realistic.


You have a shot for him. Last year none of the top 3 picked top 3.

Devils only had an 8.5% chance last year.
Flyers moved up from 13 to 2 last year.

I think the league does too little now to reward ineptitude.

Sometimes it's tanking, some times a team isn't that good.

I think they've swung too far toward randomness.
Last year was weird  
MetsAreBack : 4/7/2018 7:51 pm : link
But that's uncommon and thankfully last years draft wasn't particularly top heavy anyway. And rangers, knock on wood because it's still early, did well with their pick anyway
Picks  
MetsAreBack : 4/7/2018 7:52 pm : link
Plural
Fuck you Chicago  
MetsAreBack : 4/7/2018 8:14 pm : link
3 cups to our bone and they still beat us where it counts
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 4/7/2018 9:54 pm : link
clinch no better than 4th worst in the standings. Embarrassing goal at the end of the game for Price.

he needs to get his head on straight or that franchise is done until they can get out of that contract.

A coyotes win and bump the Canadiens down to 3rd worst.

Not sure who owns the tie breaker if the Coyotes lose in OT or a SO.
RE: RE: RE: Rangers with a chance to get to 8th  
baadbill : 4/8/2018 10:12 am : link
In comment 13903995 Kyle in NY said:
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In comment 13903215 baadbill said:


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In comment 13901072 Kyle in NY said:


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I haven't been pushing the tank as hard as others....



Maybe if we all truly believe and "push the tank", we can actually influence the outcome of tomorrow's game!!!



Cool post. Tell us again about how youíre sitting back enjoying this all because itís out of your hands! Youíve only repeated it 25 times by now


And I will continue ... so long as there are people who seem to believe fans actually impact outcomes... it's a common tendency on this site ... and, frankly, pretty fucking bizarre that people seem to actually believe that shit
There is not one person here  
Kyle in NY : 4/8/2018 10:30 am : link
that believes that, including me. Carry on though
.  
arcarsenal : 4/8/2018 10:32 am : link
I thought the difference between knowing what's best for the team in the long-run and thinking we actually impact the overall outcome was obvious.

Perhaps not.
Well said  
Kyle in NY : 4/8/2018 10:34 am : link
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RE: There is not one person here  
baadbill : 4/8/2018 11:15 am : link
In comment 13904720 Kyle in NY said:
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that believes that, including me. Carry on though


Gee. Do you honestly think there is a single fan who doesn't want the team they follow to have the best draft pick possible? Yet all I hear over and over and over again are questions like "Should I root for the Giants to lose?" and statements like "Anyone who roots for the Giants to lose isn't a real fan" and "We have to buy into the tank" for the Rangers.

In a similar vein, there are posters who fall into the trap of referring to the team they follow as "we", as though they are somehow magically transformed into being part of the decision making process. Probably the same people who get completely bent out of shape by what other fans believe or root for - as though it makes a fucking difference on the outcome of a game - or draft positioning.

This is a fan forum. So go ahead and express your opinions. But posts lashing out at other fans because they are rooting for a win (or a loss) is childish, boorish behavior. Moreover, such posts only make sense if the poster truly believes in the magical fantasy the that the thought processes of other fans are literally impacting the outcome (otherwise, what was the reason for the idiotic post to begin with?).

It's idiotic kid stuff. You'd think these people were 10 years old (and who knows, I suppose they could be).
You took a small fragment  
Kyle in NY : 4/8/2018 12:32 pm : link
of a post I made (two days earlier) more or less just outlining the current situation facing the team with two games left, and sarcastically mocked it with your ďpushing the tankĒ comment. Youíve been droning on and on about this single topic since the trade deadline. I havenít discussed it with you once, yet you feel the need to unnecessarily call me out on a harmless commment that you took out of context.

Seems to me, if anybody is ďbent out of shapeĒ by what other people are rooting for, itís you.

We donít think what we root for impacts the Rangers. But we will continue to discuss it. Cut the sanctimonious lecturing and actually provide a useful hockey post.
RE: You took a small fragment  
baadbill : 4/8/2018 1:27 pm : link
In comment 13904795 Kyle in NY said:
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We donít think what we root for impacts the Rangers. But we will continue to discuss it.


Discuss what? Supporting the "tank". wtf does that even mean?

What is the "discussion"? It's patently obvious that if the Rangers lose, they may get a better draft position and if they win they may get a worse draft position. There isn't anything to "discuss" - other than magical thinking of course.
Final  
pjcas18 : 4/8/2018 1:29 pm : link
odds:

baadbill, I think you're being too literal. You can both enjoy the youth movement the Rangers experienced toward the end of the season and at the same time hope the team loses to give themselves a better chance at improving.

And no one on this board thinks they impact results of games, nor do they (if they use "we" when describing the team) think they are part of the team.

Hey pj  
5BowlsSoon : 4/8/2018 8:08 pm : link
I dont understand that chart. Where could your Habs pick? Could they pick higher than gjeir fourth place finish? If so, how high could they go?
Baadbills argument is one made a million times here  
MetsAreBack : 4/8/2018 10:17 pm : link
A particular discussion doesn't fit his view and narrative and annoys him so he puts it down and takes a condescending tone.

As if any discussion here on any sports topic will have an impact on the ice or any other field or GMs office.... not much to talk about with this line of thinking.

At least we ended with better odds than Edmonton which put the Devils back on the map and has had way too much lottery luck over the years.

I still fully expect to pick worse than 8th. It's the MSG way.

I like Toronto better than the other east teams but this 5bowls guy may force me to change my view ... where was he when they sucked? At least Sam was funny.
RE: Hey pj  
pjcas18 : 4/9/2018 12:17 am : link
In comment 13905274 5BowlsSoon said:
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I dont understand that chart. Where could your Habs pick? Could they pick higher than gjeir fourth place finish? If so, how high could they go?


every team in the lottery can pick 1, 2, or 3. that's what the odds are next to their team and the 1st 3 picks.

after the first 3 it's reverse order, but you can be bumped back if someone wins the top 3 picks currently behind them in the draft order.

so the Canadiens can pick 1, 2, 3, 4th where they finished, 5, 6, or 7 (so the most a team can drop back is 3 spots.)

the only way the drop back 3 spots is if three teams not currently ahead of them win the top 3 picks.

RE: Baadbills argument is one made a million times here  
pjcas18 : 4/9/2018 12:21 am : link
In comment 13905465 MetsAreBack said:
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A particular discussion doesn't fit his view and narrative and annoys him so he puts it down and takes a condescending tone.

As if any discussion here on any sports topic will have an impact on the ice or any other field or GMs office.... not much to talk about with this line of thinking.

At least we ended with better odds than Edmonton which put the Devils back on the map and has had way too much lottery luck over the years.

I still fully expect to pick worse than 8th. It's the MSG way.

I like Toronto better than the other east teams but this 5bowls guy may force me to change my view ... where was he when they sucked? At least Sam was funny.



yes, he makes me hate the Leafs. He's like a Detroit Lions fan talking shit. the Leafs have not been relevant in my life time. They haven't won a playoff series in 10 years but this guy thinks he should condescend to other team's fans.
RE: RE: Hey pj  
5BowlsSoon : 4/9/2018 8:16 am : link
In comment 13905649 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13905274 5BowlsSoon said:


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I dont understand that chart. Where could your Habs pick? Could they pick higher than gjeir fourth place finish? If so, how high could they go?



every team in the lottery can pick 1, 2, or 3. that's what the odds are next to their team and the 1st 3 picks.

after the first 3 it's reverse order, but you can be bumped back if someone wins the top 3 picks currently behind them in the draft order.

so the Canadiens can pick 1, 2, 3, 4th where they finished, 5, 6, or 7 (so the most a team can drop back is 3 spots.)

the only way the drop back 3 spots is if three teams not currently ahead of them win the top 3 picks.


Okay, thanks. So your boys can go anywhere from 1-7. I guess that has both reward and risks. If you just picked fourth where you are, that is safe, but picking one is awesome, picking seventh is a bummer. I guess that element does add intrigue. Good luck.

I see my boys get Boston rather than TBay. I hate Boston (Marchand the most, duh) more than any other team so might as well eliminate them sooner rather than later. Go Leafs Go.
RE: Baadbills argument is one made a million times here  
5BowlsSoon : 4/9/2018 8:20 am : link
In comment 13905465 MetsAreBack said:
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A particular discussion doesn't fit his view and narrative and annoys him so he puts it down and takes a condescending tone.

As if any discussion here on any sports topic will have an impact on the ice or any other field or GMs office.... not much to talk about with this line of thinking.

At least we ended with better odds than Edmonton which put the Devils back on the map and has had way too much lottery luck over the years.

I still fully expect to pick worse than 8th. It's the MSG way.

I like Toronto better than the other east teams but this 5bowls guy may force me to change my view ... where was he when they sucked? At least Sam was funny.


Being a little harsh here donít you think. I donít talk down on any team....so what I lift my boys up when they are playing good. As for why I show up when my boys are doing well.... Why would I want to talk about my boys when they stink? I would do that only on a Leafs message Board. No one here cares.
RE: Baadbills argument is one made a million times here  
baadbill : 4/9/2018 8:38 am : link
In comment 13905465 MetsAreBack said:
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A particular discussion doesn't fit his view and narrative and annoys him so he puts it down and takes a condescending tone.

As if any discussion here on any sports topic will have an impact on the ice or any other field or GMs office.... not much to talk about with this line of thinking...


Posts attacking others for being happy (or sad) while watching a Giants or Rangers game takes a special kind of "magical thinking" (and I'm being kind). And it happened many, many times this season with both the Giants and Rangers. And that has nothing to do with any "discussion". It is a personal attack when a poster attacks another fan for saying they were entertained by the game, as though that isn't allowed (and the only way such attacks can be justified is some sort of "magical thinking" that somehow "being entertained" ruined the Giants/Rangers chances at draft position).

It's frankly obnoxious.
5bowls  
pjcas18 : 4/9/2018 8:42 am : link
maybe you mean well, but the way you phrase stuff sometimes comes across as condescending.

when you say the Canadiens don't have players who will "make me proud"

WTF does that even mean?

Price was voted by his peers as best goalie (this year). While he hasn't played well - no arguing that - there is no reason to believe that he's washed up.

Shea Weber was voted 2nd highest in the player you least like to play against in the league by his peers.

They both missed significant time - Weber since December and these are the players they built the team around.

Pacioretty, the captain, top 5 most goals in the NHL since 2012 coming in to the season, missed significant time.

they lost their 1st line C for a lot of the year (granted he's not a legit 1C, but it dominos).

Canadiens won the Atlantic last year with mostly the same team or similar, I expect with minor roster tweaks they can contend again.

And I am proud when I watch players like Brendan Gallagher, Alex Galchenyuk, Victor Mete, and others.

and from a youth standpoint Noah Juulsen proved he can play top 4 D minutes, at 20 years old, he shined down the stretch in an otherwise dismal season, so did Brett Lernout.

I like the future for MTL.

and your words in many posts, do sound like you feel like your opinion is superior and your team is (which might be true today, but it's generally a shitty attitude to have).
RE: RE: Baadbills argument is one made a million times here  
Greg from LI : 4/9/2018 9:11 am : link
In comment 13905809 baadbill said:
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It's frankly obnoxious.


No one's holding a gun to your head to be here.
Thanks for the feedback pj  
5BowlsSoon : 4/9/2018 9:35 am : link
I respect your words, you are the main reason I talk on this hockey thread here. I didnít expect Leafs fans to bond with, so obviously I do that on a Leafs website.

As for your team, maybe I read to many negative comments on your team made by your fans. Many of your own fans seem to be totally down on management and players, excluding the kids. This is what I read from your fans concerning your big 6 players:

Price- contract too big, declining, you have good young cheaper guys, so you donít need Price and can get other help by trading him
Weber- a lot of negative stuff because Popular Subban traded
Max- donít like his as a captain and he doesnít show up often
Drouin- huge disappointment, canít play center
Alex- doesnít do well 5 on 5, canít play center
Gallagher- best player best work ethic

So, based on what I read from Habs fans, they (overwhelmingly consensus) only seem happy with one of these six, maybe Alex. So when I say you want players to make you proud, players who all fans can support. It seems to me reading your fans, they are only all behind Gallagher, and everyone else is expendable.

Personally, Drouin and Alex are too young to give up on so they may blossom into stars and Weber and Price are beasts when healthy, so yes, those two when healthy should make all Habs fans proud. But I agree with you in looking at your roster, you have made a commitment to get younger which I believe will pay off in a few years. I even hope your boys get the number one pick just as we did Matthews. I want the Habs- Leaf games to be the best, like they once were.
If you didn't know  
pjcas18 : 4/9/2018 9:47 am : link
Canadiens fans tend to be a tad emotional.

as a fan base they routinely complain about anything and everything. they booed Patrick Roy.

they expect to win, and though that sentiment is quickly fading, since they haven't been dominant (in terms of cup wins) since the 70's there are still a lot of entitled Habs fans.

In other words, if they criticize Price - who I don't conclude is declining, he's 30 years old, hardly old for a goalie - they should be ignored.

Almost no fan liked the Subban trade, but it shouldn't mean Weber is any less effective in his role, even though some fans are so butthurt to get over it.

Weber and Price are (when healthy) perennial all-stars.

and Drouin is where you lose me. Galchenyuk too.

these are players that hockey players grow up hoping to be as skilled as them. Neither one is a C, so what? If you put a legit center in the middle of them you have a top 10 line in the NHL. The Canadiens haven't had a legit 1C in a decade.

And Pacioretty is the eiptome of a captain, he can do everything, he's similar to Rick Nash IMO where non-hockey astute fans don't appreciate him enough.

I do think the Canadiens might be better off trading Max for a legit C, but it doesn't take way the fact i recognize that Max can light the lamp, he can play PP, he can play SH, he'll cycle and play physical, and excel in all of them.

If I were a contending team in need of a top 6 or even top line LW I'd make a trade for Pacioretty in a heartbeat.



Pj  
5BowlsSoon : 4/9/2018 9:58 am : link
You seem to be behind your current players much more than the fans I read online. I guess you donít get caught up in all the negativity like most.

I donít watch Habs play so all I base my opinions are on is what I read from Leaf and Habs fans. Max seems to be the most hated; obviously not by you. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Unfortunately, trading Subban and Setgachev, you better get BEASTS back in return, right? Weber is that when healthy. I hope Drouin can be. Like you said, get him a bone fide center and watch him.

So who are you pulling for....Boston or Leafs?
RE: Pj  
pjcas18 : 4/9/2018 10:06 am : link
In comment 13905966 5BowlsSoon said:
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You seem to be behind your current players much more than the fans I read online. I guess you donít get caught up in all the negativity like most.

I donít watch Habs play so all I base my opinions are on is what I read from Leaf and Habs fans. Max seems to be the most hated; obviously not by you. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Unfortunately, trading Subban and Setgachev, you better get BEASTS back in return, right? Weber is that when healthy. I hope Drouin can be. Like you said, get him a bone fide center and watch him.

So who are you pulling for....Boston or Leafs?


Leafs if I have to pick, I cannot root for the Bruins under any circumstances. I'm a Canadiens fan living in Boston.
RE: RE: Baadbills argument is one made a million times here  
MetsAreBack : 4/9/2018 3:06 pm : link
In comment 13905809 baadbill said:
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In comment 13905465 MetsAreBack said:


Quote:


A particular discussion doesn't fit his view and narrative and annoys him so he puts it down and takes a condescending tone.

As if any discussion here on any sports topic will have an impact on the ice or any other field or GMs office.... not much to talk about with this line of thinking...



Posts attacking others for being happy (or sad) while watching a Giants or Rangers game takes a special kind of "magical thinking" (and I'm being kind). And it happened many, many times this season with both the Giants and Rangers. And that has nothing to do with any "discussion". It is a personal attack when a poster attacks another fan for saying they were entertained by the game, as though that isn't allowed (and the only way such attacks can be justified is some sort of "magical thinking" that somehow "being entertained" ruined the Giants/Rangers chances at draft position).

It's frankly obnoxious.


To my knowledge, no one "attacked" you - certainly not a personal way. You frankly (you like that word) seem to have voices in your head.
Was never my intent to get into a pissing contest and i  
baadbill : 4/9/2018 5:52 pm : link
apologize for my role in getting things to that point. Time here is supposed to be fun and Iím truly sorry for arguing especially about silly stuff.
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