so most of the hockey fans on BBI have their teams eliminated or close to it. See if anyone wants to discuss the tank-a-thon or playoffs.
Pretty much eliminated (of the BBI fan teams):
Rangers
Canadiens
Islanders
Senators
Hurricanes
Some fans still have teams alive
Bruins
Capitals
I've seen a Flyers fan on here
and of course our Penguins fan, plus the lone Vegas Knights fan.
Anyway more of us probably interested in Rasmus Dahlin than playoff seeding, but still some good races left.
Most teams have between 12 and 15 games left.
The Lightning and Predators, the two conference leaders, are on absolute fire. Both 9 - 0 - 1 in their last 10.
The Jets (my darkhorse) are also pretty hot.
And Patrik Laine is now in elite company, he's tied Gretzky for 3rd most goals as a teen. Interestingly that's not the 1st most, Jimmy Carson (92) and Dale Hawerchuck (85) both have more than Laine who currently has 76, but what Laine is doing is impressive since it's being done in a lower scoring era.
If the season ended today draft order (subject to lottery of course) would be:
Arizona
Buffalo
Ottawa
Vancouver
Montreal
Detroit
Edmonton
Rangers
Chicago
Islanders
Carolina
Islanders (from Calgary)
Columbus
Philly (from St Louis)
Anaheim
A lot of movement will take place in that group, plus the lottery will shuffle things, but just my view it's a strong top of the draft.
Current playoff matchups would be:
East
TAM vs CBJ
BOS vs TOR
PIT vs NJD
WAS vs PHI
still alive: FLA, CAR
West
LVG vs DAL
SJS vs ANA
NSH vs COL
WIN vs MIN
Still alive: LAK, CAL, STL
some good matchups
You have a shot for him. Last year none of the top 3 picked top 3.
Devils only had an 8.5% chance last year.
Flyers moved up from 13 to 2 last year.
I think the league does too little now to reward ineptitude.
Sometimes it's tanking, some times a team isn't that good.
I think they've swung too far toward randomness.
he needs to get his head on straight or that franchise is done until they can get out of that contract.
A coyotes win and bump the Canadiens down to 3rd worst.
Not sure who owns the tie breaker if the Coyotes lose in OT or a SO.
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In comment 13901072 Kyle in NY said:
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I haven't been pushing the tank as hard as others....
Maybe if we all truly believe and "push the tank", we can actually influence the outcome of tomorrow's game!!!
Cool post. Tell us again about how you’re sitting back enjoying this all because it’s out of your hands! You’ve only repeated it 25 times by now
And I will continue ... so long as there are people who seem to believe fans actually impact outcomes... it's a common tendency on this site ... and, frankly, pretty fucking bizarre that people seem to actually believe that shit
Perhaps not.
Gee. Do you honestly think there is a single fan who doesn't want the team they follow to have the best draft pick possible? Yet all I hear over and over and over again are questions like "Should I root for the Giants to lose?" and statements like "Anyone who roots for the Giants to lose isn't a real fan" and "We have to buy into the tank" for the Rangers.
In a similar vein, there are posters who fall into the trap of referring to the team they follow as "we", as though they are somehow magically transformed into being part of the decision making process. Probably the same people who get completely bent out of shape by what other fans believe or root for - as though it makes a fucking difference on the outcome of a game - or draft positioning.
This is a fan forum. So go ahead and express your opinions. But posts lashing out at other fans because they are rooting for a win (or a loss) is childish, boorish behavior. Moreover, such posts only make sense if the poster truly believes in the magical fantasy the that the thought processes of other fans are literally impacting the outcome (otherwise, what was the reason for the idiotic post to begin with?).
It's idiotic kid stuff. You'd think these people were 10 years old (and who knows, I suppose they could be).
Seems to me, if anybody is “bent out of shape” by what other people are rooting for, it’s you.
We don’t think what we root for impacts the Rangers. But we will continue to discuss it. Cut the sanctimonious lecturing and actually provide a useful hockey post.
Discuss what? Supporting the "tank". wtf does that even mean?
What is the "discussion"? It's patently obvious that if the Rangers lose, they may get a better draft position and if they win they may get a worse draft position. There isn't anything to "discuss" - other than magical thinking of course.
baadbill, I think you're being too literal. You can both enjoy the youth movement the Rangers experienced toward the end of the season and at the same time hope the team loses to give themselves a better chance at improving.
And no one on this board thinks they impact results of games, nor do they (if they use "we" when describing the team) think they are part of the team.
As if any discussion here on any sports topic will have an impact on the ice or any other field or GMs office.... not much to talk about with this line of thinking.
At least we ended with better odds than Edmonton which put the Devils back on the map and has had way too much lottery luck over the years.
I still fully expect to pick worse than 8th. It's the MSG way.
I like Toronto better than the other east teams but this 5bowls guy may force me to change my view ... where was he when they sucked? At least Sam was funny.
every team in the lottery can pick 1, 2, or 3. that's what the odds are next to their team and the 1st 3 picks.
after the first 3 it's reverse order, but you can be bumped back if someone wins the top 3 picks currently behind them in the draft order.
so the Canadiens can pick 1, 2, 3, 4th where they finished, 5, 6, or 7 (so the most a team can drop back is 3 spots.)
the only way the drop back 3 spots is if three teams not currently ahead of them win the top 3 picks.
As if any discussion here on any sports topic will have an impact on the ice or any other field or GMs office.... not much to talk about with this line of thinking.
At least we ended with better odds than Edmonton which put the Devils back on the map and has had way too much lottery luck over the years.
I still fully expect to pick worse than 8th. It's the MSG way.
I like Toronto better than the other east teams but this 5bowls guy may force me to change my view ... where was he when they sucked? At least Sam was funny.
yes, he makes me hate the Leafs. He's like a Detroit Lions fan talking shit. the Leafs have not been relevant in my life time. They haven't won a playoff series in 10 years but this guy thinks he should condescend to other team's fans.
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I dont understand that chart. Where could your Habs pick? Could they pick higher than gjeir fourth place finish? If so, how high could they go?
every team in the lottery can pick 1, 2, or 3. that's what the odds are next to their team and the 1st 3 picks.
after the first 3 it's reverse order, but you can be bumped back if someone wins the top 3 picks currently behind them in the draft order.
so the Canadiens can pick 1, 2, 3, 4th where they finished, 5, 6, or 7 (so the most a team can drop back is 3 spots.)
the only way the drop back 3 spots is if three teams not currently ahead of them win the top 3 picks.
Okay, thanks. So your boys can go anywhere from 1-7. I guess that has both reward and risks. If you just picked fourth where you are, that is safe, but picking one is awesome, picking seventh is a bummer. I guess that element does add intrigue. Good luck.
I see my boys get Boston rather than TBay. I hate Boston (Marchand the most, duh) more than any other team so might as well eliminate them sooner rather than later. Go Leafs Go.
As if any discussion here on any sports topic will have an impact on the ice or any other field or GMs office.... not much to talk about with this line of thinking.
At least we ended with better odds than Edmonton which put the Devils back on the map and has had way too much lottery luck over the years.
I still fully expect to pick worse than 8th. It's the MSG way.
I like Toronto better than the other east teams but this 5bowls guy may force me to change my view ... where was he when they sucked? At least Sam was funny.
Being a little harsh here don’t you think. I don’t talk down on any team....so what I lift my boys up when they are playing good. As for why I show up when my boys are doing well.... Why would I want to talk about my boys when they stink? I would do that only on a Leafs message Board. No one here cares.
As if any discussion here on any sports topic will have an impact on the ice or any other field or GMs office.... not much to talk about with this line of thinking...
Posts attacking others for being happy (or sad) while watching a Giants or Rangers game takes a special kind of "magical thinking" (and I'm being kind). And it happened many, many times this season with both the Giants and Rangers. And that has nothing to do with any "discussion". It is a personal attack when a poster attacks another fan for saying they were entertained by the game, as though that isn't allowed (and the only way such attacks can be justified is some sort of "magical thinking" that somehow "being entertained" ruined the Giants/Rangers chances at draft position).
It's frankly obnoxious.
when you say the Canadiens don't have players who will "make me proud"
WTF does that even mean?
Price was voted by his peers as best goalie (this year). While he hasn't played well - no arguing that - there is no reason to believe that he's washed up.
Shea Weber was voted 2nd highest in the player you least like to play against in the league by his peers.
They both missed significant time - Weber since December and these are the players they built the team around.
Pacioretty, the captain, top 5 most goals in the NHL since 2012 coming in to the season, missed significant time.
they lost their 1st line C for a lot of the year (granted he's not a legit 1C, but it dominos).
Canadiens won the Atlantic last year with mostly the same team or similar, I expect with minor roster tweaks they can contend again.
And I am proud when I watch players like Brendan Gallagher, Alex Galchenyuk, Victor Mete, and others.
and from a youth standpoint Noah Juulsen proved he can play top 4 D minutes, at 20 years old, he shined down the stretch in an otherwise dismal season, so did Brett Lernout.
I like the future for MTL.
and your words in many posts, do sound like you feel like your opinion is superior and your team is (which might be true today, but it's generally a shitty attitude to have).
No one's holding a gun to your head to be here.
As for your team, maybe I read to many negative comments on your team made by your fans. Many of your own fans seem to be totally down on management and players, excluding the kids. This is what I read from your fans concerning your big 6 players:
Price- contract too big, declining, you have good young cheaper guys, so you don’t need Price and can get other help by trading him
Weber- a lot of negative stuff because Popular Subban traded
Max- don’t like his as a captain and he doesn’t show up often
Drouin- huge disappointment, can’t play center
Alex- doesn’t do well 5 on 5, can’t play center
Gallagher- best player best work ethic
So, based on what I read from Habs fans, they (overwhelmingly consensus) only seem happy with one of these six, maybe Alex. So when I say you want players to make you proud, players who all fans can support. It seems to me reading your fans, they are only all behind Gallagher, and everyone else is expendable.
Personally, Drouin and Alex are too young to give up on so they may blossom into stars and Weber and Price are beasts when healthy, so yes, those two when healthy should make all Habs fans proud. But I agree with you in looking at your roster, you have made a commitment to get younger which I believe will pay off in a few years. I even hope your boys get the number one pick just as we did Matthews. I want the Habs- Leaf games to be the best, like they once were.
as a fan base they routinely complain about anything and everything. they booed Patrick Roy.
they expect to win, and though that sentiment is quickly fading, since they haven't been dominant (in terms of cup wins) since the 70's there are still a lot of entitled Habs fans.
In other words, if they criticize Price - who I don't conclude is declining, he's 30 years old, hardly old for a goalie - they should be ignored.
Almost no fan liked the Subban trade, but it shouldn't mean Weber is any less effective in his role, even though some fans are so butthurt to get over it.
Weber and Price are (when healthy) perennial all-stars.
and Drouin is where you lose me. Galchenyuk too.
these are players that hockey players grow up hoping to be as skilled as them. Neither one is a C, so what? If you put a legit center in the middle of them you have a top 10 line in the NHL. The Canadiens haven't had a legit 1C in a decade.
And Pacioretty is the eiptome of a captain, he can do everything, he's similar to Rick Nash IMO where non-hockey astute fans don't appreciate him enough.
I do think the Canadiens might be better off trading Max for a legit C, but it doesn't take way the fact i recognize that Max can light the lamp, he can play PP, he can play SH, he'll cycle and play physical, and excel in all of them.
If I were a contending team in need of a top 6 or even top line LW I'd make a trade for Pacioretty in a heartbeat.
I don’t watch Habs play so all I base my opinions are on is what I read from Leaf and Habs fans. Max seems to be the most hated; obviously not by you. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Unfortunately, trading Subban and Setgachev, you better get BEASTS back in return, right? Weber is that when healthy. I hope Drouin can be. Like you said, get him a bone fide center and watch him.
So who are you pulling for....Boston or Leafs?
I don’t watch Habs play so all I base my opinions are on is what I read from Leaf and Habs fans. Max seems to be the most hated; obviously not by you. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Unfortunately, trading Subban and Setgachev, you better get BEASTS back in return, right? Weber is that when healthy. I hope Drouin can be. Like you said, get him a bone fide center and watch him.
So who are you pulling for....Boston or Leafs?
Leafs if I have to pick, I cannot root for the Bruins under any circumstances. I'm a Canadiens fan living in Boston.
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A particular discussion doesn't fit his view and narrative and annoys him so he puts it down and takes a condescending tone.
As if any discussion here on any sports topic will have an impact on the ice or any other field or GMs office.... not much to talk about with this line of thinking...
Posts attacking others for being happy (or sad) while watching a Giants or Rangers game takes a special kind of "magical thinking" (and I'm being kind). And it happened many, many times this season with both the Giants and Rangers. And that has nothing to do with any "discussion". It is a personal attack when a poster attacks another fan for saying they were entertained by the game, as though that isn't allowed (and the only way such attacks can be justified is some sort of "magical thinking" that somehow "being entertained" ruined the Giants/Rangers chances at draft position).
It's frankly obnoxious.
To my knowledge, no one "attacked" you - certainly not a personal way. You frankly (you like that word) seem to have voices in your head.