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Most OL still out there - Hubbard, Flemming, Spain, Berger, Sitton  
Eric on Li : 3/13/2018 2:37 pm : link
who knows, maybe even Solder in play. I'm sure they prefer adding a few of the younger names on that list.
LOL@ all the "Relax, free agency hasn't started yet"  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/13/2018 2:37 pm : link
Yes, it has...
RE: LOL@ all the  
Beer Man : 3/13/2018 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13862398 BigBlue4You09 said:
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Yes, it has...
The "Bargain Basement / Dumpster Diving" phase of FA hasn't started yet. Although, I get the feeling the Giants are positioning themselves to win that phase of FA.
I think that there is a plan to build this roster in a smart way.  
BLUATHRT : 3/13/2018 2:46 pm : link
DG has said numerous times that guys like O'Hara were building blocks to SB teams and not top rate FA's. Making the trade for Ogletree tells me he is conscious of the weaknesses. Letting Richburg walk, not having a deal in place for Pugh, tells me status quo wasn't going to continue. I'm cautiously optimistic.
RE: RE: RE: Who  
allstarjim : 3/13/2018 3:05 pm : link
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is our target now? Do we even have one?



I heard it's Luke Atmadiq, waiting confirmation...



I hope not... Way undersized!


However, great explosion.
Would be a good time...  
bw in dc : 3/13/2018 3:07 pm : link
to consider trading OBJ for a quality olineman and a few picks...
RE: Would be a good time...  
allstarjim : 3/13/2018 3:09 pm : link
In comment 13862472 bw in dc said:
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to consider trading OBJ for a quality olineman and a few picks...


Not happening. Can't even understand the thinking on this.
Eagles  
Mr. Nickels : 3/13/2018 3:19 pm : link
are shopping Fletcher Cox..
RE: Eagles  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 3:21 pm : link
In comment 13862489 Mr. Nickels said:
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are shopping Fletcher Cox..


wow really??!
RE: Eagles  
The_Boss : 3/13/2018 3:24 pm : link
In comment 13862489 Mr. Nickels said:
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are shopping Fletcher Cox..


He’s the best defensive player in the division. No way this is true. Come on.
Hopefully DG can cobble together an average OL out of what we have.  
PetesHereNow : 3/13/2018 3:24 pm : link
We have enough at the skill positions with Beckham, Engram, Shepherd, Gallman. Though, one or two more guys wouldn’t hurt there either.
RE: Eagles  
mattyblue : 3/13/2018 3:28 pm : link
In comment 13862489 Mr. Nickels said:
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are shopping Fletcher Cox..


Where did you hear this from?
Fletcher Cox's cap hit balloons these next two years  
Go Terps : 3/13/2018 3:28 pm : link
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Help  
Dragon : 3/13/2018 3:30 pm : link
Please is there anyone who felt WR Albert Wilson was worth 8 mil a year for three years? This guy has caught 124 passes in his career Landry caught 112 last year WTH am I missing here.
RE: Would be a good time...  
nygiants16 : 3/13/2018 3:30 pm : link
In comment 13862472 bw in dc said:
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to consider trading OBJ for a quality olineman and a few picks...


Why? So then you can hope to draft player just as good as b eckham? You don't just trade one of the best players in the league
RE: RE: Eagles  
Mr. Nickels : 3/13/2018 3:32 pm : link
In comment 13862514 mattyblue said:
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are shopping Fletcher Cox..



Where did you hear this from?



Eagle fan sent me some tweets. I don't think they are asking for a lot either. It is to clear up cap space. Eagles just signed Haloti Ngata too..
Ryan Jensen could be plan B for Gettleman  
Milton : 3/13/2018 3:33 pm : link
At the right price....
A brawler! - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: Eagles  
Craigg619 : 3/13/2018 3:35 pm : link
In comment 13862525 Mr. Nickels said:
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are shopping Fletcher Cox..



Where did you hear this from?




Eagle fan sent me some tweets. I don't think they are asking for a lot either. It is to clear up cap space. Eagles just signed Haloti Ngata too..


Was it you in another thread that said the Giants were interested in Malcolm Butler? Didn't see that anywhere either.
RE: Ryan Jensen could be plan B for Gettleman  
Mr. Nickels : 3/13/2018 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13862532 Milton said:
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At the right price.... A brawler! - ( New Window )



Isn't he a center
RE: RE: RE: RE: Eagles  
Mr. Nickels : 3/13/2018 3:37 pm : link
In comment 13862537 Craigg619 said:
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are shopping Fletcher Cox..



Where did you hear this from?




Eagle fan sent me some tweets. I don't think they are asking for a lot either. It is to clear up cap space. Eagles just signed Haloti Ngata too..



Was it you in another thread that said the Giants were interested in Malcolm Butler? Didn't see that anywhere either.




Nflchase on instagram had giants as interested in butler
So, the one guy who seemed to be universally wanted here  
Matt M. : 3/13/2018 3:39 pm : link
and who we were supposed to be front runners for is off the market. Now what? For me, Norwell was crucial to the Giants having any kind of success this year. He was far and away the best OL available.
RE: So, the one guy who seemed to be universally wanted here  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13862550 Matt M. said:
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and who we were supposed to be front runners for is off the market. Now what? For me, Norwell was crucial to the Giants having any kind of success this year. He was far and away the best OL available.


Yea i tend to agree. i hate to be all gloomy and shit but truth is he immediately gave us an anchor on that OL and was IMO a key piece to having some success this year. there arent many great options left along the OL and truth is OL play has been down around the league and at this point we will be signing back ups to start....i expect a really shitty season which may have happened if we signed norwell but norwell would have given some hope to moving in the right direction on the OL. nothing we can do tho. got outbid by a better team....easy choice for him.
RE: There's a great Bill Belichick quote  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/13/2018 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13862164 Go Terps said:
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"The less versatile you are, the better you have to be at what you do well."

The Vikings are an excellent illustration of this. Last year they were extremely versatile in that they had three options at quarterback. Bradford started the year and played well but got hurt. Keenum took over knowing that Bridgewater was there to take his job should he falter. They were versatile and because all of their contracts expired after the season were uncommitted to any of them. It worked out well and even allowed them to recover from a QB injury...something that is often fatal to a team's season.

Now they have no versatility at quarterback. They are tied to Cousins for three years. The Vikings HAVE to be good with Cousins; there is no plan B.

They were a better team at the start of 2017 than they are today.


That whole scenario came about only because of Bridgewater's horrible injury, and panicking into trading a first round pick for Bradford. I don't know that versatility at that position is a thing that can be replicated.
Trades accelerate dead cap  
shyster : 3/13/2018 3:43 pm : link
just as a release does.

Rather than clearing cap space, Eagles would take a huge cap hit if Cox's dead cap were to be accelerated. Don't see any mention of him being in play at Bleeding Green.
RE: RE: Ryan Jensen could be plan B for Gettleman  
Milton : 3/13/2018 3:48 pm : link
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At the right price.... A brawler! - ( New Window )




Isn't he a center
Yes, but interior OL in general. And it's not as if we know what Gettleman thinks of Brett Jones. He may see Jones as nothing more than a back up player.
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LakeGeorgeGiant : 3/13/2018 3:49 pm : link
So with Bridgewater going to Jets  
yankeeslover : 3/13/2018 4:01 pm : link
Are they now out of the QB hunt in the draft? And what about the Skins, damn I hope they don't end up with Jackson. I would hate to face him twice per year.
Damn  
yankeeslover : 3/13/2018 4:04 pm : link
Nevermind. Forgot Smith is in Washington
I guess McCarron’s left for Buffalo  
jeff57 : 3/13/2018 4:05 pm : link
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So who are the Giants going to sign?  
Fishmanjim57 : 3/13/2018 4:07 pm : link
I have seen enough about the players they wanted being potentially acquired elsewhere, and about the players the Giants have lost.
Will they pick up anyone in free agency? I'm used to them not getting what they need and I expected this free agency season to be better with DG in charge.....but so far......nothing!
RE: ....  
OBJRoyal : 3/13/2018 4:07 pm : link
In comment 13862312 BleedBlue said:
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Solder
Bradham
Trumaine Johnson


three guys who i like, be nice to land two of em


I came on here to ask about Trumaine Johnson. There have been reports that the Gmen might look to free agency to fill a CB spot.

What would Johnson command and would he be a good fit??
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adamg : 3/13/2018 4:08 pm : link
In comment 13862628 OBJRoyal said:
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Solder
Bradham
Trumaine Johnson


three guys who i like, be nice to land two of em



I came on here to ask about Trumaine Johnson. There have been reports that the Gmen might look to free agency to fill a CB spot.

What would Johnson command and would he be a good fit??


I imagine Johnson would get Jenkins type money. He would be our biggest FA signing if he's the guy. I don't know if we would do that.
RE: So with Bridgewater going to Jets  
Milton : 3/13/2018 4:08 pm : link
In comment 13862614 yankeeslover said:
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Are they now out of the QB hunt in the draft?
Just the opposite.
RE: So with Bridgewater going to Jets  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/13/2018 4:11 pm : link
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Are they now out of the QB hunt in the draft? And what about the Skins, damn I hope they don't end up with Jackson. I would hate to face him twice per year.


Teddy is a short term hire.
Solder should be the Giants top priority  
jeff57 : 3/13/2018 4:12 pm : link
At this point.
RE: RE: RE: ....  
OBJRoyal : 3/13/2018 4:15 pm : link
In comment 13862631 adamg said:
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Solder
Bradham
Trumaine Johnson


three guys who i like, be nice to land two of em



I came on here to ask about Trumaine Johnson. There have been reports that the Gmen might look to free agency to fill a CB spot.

What would Johnson command and would he be a good fit??



I imagine Johnson would get Jenkins type money. He would be our biggest FA signing if he's the guy. I don't know if we would do that.


After I got thinking about it more, this was what I came up with as well. The Giants would have a lot of $$ tied up in the CB spot.
RE: Solder should be the Giants top priority  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 4:15 pm : link
In comment 13862643 jeff57 said:
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At this point.


100% agree...

Solder and bradham would be as good haul....solder is 30, not 40...he has 3-5 good years left and could help guys like flowers and wheeler.

then go QB or barkley and in round 2 go OG
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BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 4:16 pm : link
In comment 13862653 OBJRoyal said:
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Solder
Bradham
Trumaine Johnson


three guys who i like, be nice to land two of em



I came on here to ask about Trumaine Johnson. There have been reports that the Gmen might look to free agency to fill a CB spot.

What would Johnson command and would he be a good fit??



I imagine Johnson would get Jenkins type money. He would be our biggest FA signing if he's the guy. I don't know if we would do that.



After I got thinking about it more, this was what I came up with as well. The Giants would have a lot of $$ tied up in the CB spot.



NO way he gets jenkins money IMO. i dont think he is that good. id take butler as he may be the cheaper option...maybe a discount after the Super Bowl debacle
Jimmy Graham is joining Rodgers  
adamg : 3/13/2018 4:16 pm : link
That's a good signing by the Pack
BleedBlue  
adamg : 3/13/2018 4:17 pm : link
I agree Jenkins is the better talent, but it's two years later and the market is increasing by the second. I doubt he'd take much less than Jenkins.
If injury concerns should determine who you draft,  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/13/2018 4:17 pm : link
then they should certainly be a concern for spending big money on a tackle. Solder's got a history.
BEars add Gabriel to the WR corps too  
adamg : 3/13/2018 4:19 pm : link
Trubisky is having a day
RE: LOL@ all the  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/13/2018 4:22 pm : link
In comment 13862398 BigBlue4You09 said:
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Yes, it has...

No, it hasn't. Frank Gore to the Eagles a few years ago ring a bell?
Jordy Nelson released?  
adamg : 3/13/2018 4:28 pm : link
Kick the tires?
McCown back to the Jets 1 year 10 mill  
adamg : 3/13/2018 4:41 pm : link
Wonder if that means Bridgewater isn't going to happen...
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arcarsenal : 3/13/2018 4:46 pm : link
Trumaine Johnson is the best available FA CB - he's going to be way too expensive. Not happening here.
Moncrief  
Breeze_94 : 3/13/2018 4:57 pm : link
to the Jags
Any guesses on the price tag for Pugh  
Breeze_94 : 3/13/2018 4:59 pm : link
I'm sure he wants 4/48, but can he be had at 4/36?
I think  
bigfrank612 : 3/13/2018 5:00 pm : link
ThE thing that is the most frustrating isn’t the fact that we haven’t signed anyone yet, it’s more about us not being linked to anyone. Norwell and Dion Lewis, that’s pretty much it. Oh and how can I forget J-Stew...lol I’m not getting impatient, and I don’t want them to spend big money on “ehh” players, I just want to see some connections. Oh well.
RE: Any guesses on the price tag for Pugh  
adamg : 3/13/2018 5:01 pm : link
In comment 13862750 Breeze_94 said:
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I'm sure he wants 4/48, but can he be had at 4/36?
I think it's somewhere in between. But less than 25 in guar
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