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Breer: NYG in on Solder

Defenderdawg : 3/13/2018 5:13 pm
Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer)
3/13/18, 5:07 PM
Another team in on Patriots OT Nate Solder: The New York Giants. After losing out on Andrew Norwell, their search for offensive line help continues. Pats will have a battle to hold on to Tom Brady's left tackle.
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nice  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 5:14 pm : link
actually just saw it and posted in the discussion thread
..  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 5:15 pm : link
pin it mods. this could be a nice signing
This was my 1b signing  
adamg : 3/13/2018 5:16 pm : link
I hope they get this one.
Giants and Pats in on the same guy  
Bogey : 3/13/2018 5:17 pm : link
I feel like I've seen this show before.
What's he going to cost?  
adamg : 3/13/2018 5:20 pm : link
14 mill per? more?
The Texans are in as well  
Defenderdawg : 3/13/2018 5:23 pm : link
they have already signed Zach Fulton and Seantrel Henderson but they need 3 or 4 starters
Back up the dump truck boys  
idiotsavant : 3/13/2018 5:26 pm : link
Beep....beep....beep....beep


....

Waving yellow flag....everybody step back...
I hope this isn't panick  
AdamBrag : 3/13/2018 5:28 pm : link
and that we aren't going to overpay an OT on the wrong side of 30 who is coming off a down season.
29 year old, average lineman  
Essex : 3/13/2018 5:29 pm : link
an upgrade, for sure, but it better not be an expensive one or I would pass.
go get him  
Dankbeerman : 3/13/2018 5:30 pm : link
no other upgrade at LT is avalible in FA or in the draft
It's all pro sports crazy money anyway  
idiotsavant : 3/13/2018 5:31 pm : link
Look at it like this. If jpp or Vernon dogs it this year, you can easily find cap space next year. ;-)
....  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 5:32 pm : link
how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year...
i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys....

sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL
RE: ....  
adamg : 3/13/2018 5:33 pm : link
In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said:
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how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year...
i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys....

sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL


+100
RE: 29 year old, average lineman  
UConn4523 : 3/13/2018 5:34 pm : link
In comment 13862795 Essex said:
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an upgrade, for sure, but it better not be an expensive one or I would pass.


He’s better than average and of course he will be expensive. If the medicals check out I’d rather pay for him than a Guard.
I see it as a long shot  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/13/2018 5:34 pm : link
but I wanted Solder more than Norwell
RE: ....  
Jon in NYC : 3/13/2018 5:35 pm : link
In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said:
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how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year...
i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys....

sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL


Solder has never been as good as whitworth.
Plus value  
idiotsavant : 3/13/2018 5:35 pm : link
Is that he has been well coached on the line. That must be contagious. Help bring cohesion up front, explain stuff to newbs.

Also. Appears to dovetail with the draft - in its supply of guards.
Ehh  
UConn4523 : 3/13/2018 5:36 pm : link
Whitworth was 5 or 6 years older. Good for him that he’s still playing at a high level at his age but the Giants didn’t want to take the risk, atleast it made sense.
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BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 5:36 pm : link
In comment 13862805 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said:


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how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year...
i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys....

sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL



Solder has never been as good as whitworth.



jon, it doesnt matter....people wanted to pass on whitworth because of age and cost....exactly why people are complaining about solder...
Solder is probably around  
Breeze_94 : 3/13/2018 5:36 pm : link
the 8th-12th best LT in the league. Flowers is somewhere in the upper 20's or 30's. Huge upgrade. We are seeing LT's play well into their 30's (Peters, Whitworth, Thomas).

At the very worst, we get a solid LT who we can trust to protect Eli or our young QB's blindside and a definite upgrade at probably the 2nd most important position on offense. I'd be willing to pay 12 or 13mil for him. Anything more than that is no bueno.
Yeah, we aren't sleeping  
ZogZerg : 3/13/2018 5:36 pm : link
;)
RE: RE: ....  
Essex : 3/13/2018 5:36 pm : link
In comment 13862801 adamg said:
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In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said:


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how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year...
i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys....

sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL



+100

are you insane, Whitworth was all pro in 2015 and 2017. Now, his age was an issue and I can understand passing on him, but to equate Nate Solder to Whitworth is probably the dumbest thing I have read today and I have read a lot of dumb things today.
RE: Ehh  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13862807 UConn4523 said:
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Whitworth was 5 or 6 years older. Good for him that he’s still playing at a high level at his age but the Giants didn’t want to take the risk, atleast it made sense.


for what its worth, i didnt really want him either, but my point was people passed him because of age and money
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BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13862813 Essex said:
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In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said:


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how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year...
i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys....

sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL



+100


are you insane, Whitworth was all pro in 2015 and 2017. Now, his age was an issue and I can understand passing on him, but to equate Nate Solder to Whitworth is probably the dumbest thing I have read today and I have read a lot of dumb things today.


dude NOBODY is saying solder=whitworth im simply saying BBI hasnt necessarily been spot on with these LT potential signings thats all
No way  
Default : 3/13/2018 5:38 pm : link
he leaves New England.
No doubt he'd be an upgrade  
Eman11 : 3/13/2018 5:38 pm : link
But I took the Ranaan tweet to mean they were waiting on the OL chips (Solder) to fall meaning they want the market set, and then making a move on the other remaining OL FA's.
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BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13862813 Essex said:
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In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said:


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how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year...
i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys....

sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL



+100


are you insane, Whitworth was all pro in 2015 and 2017. Now, his age was an issue and I can understand passing on him, but to equate Nate Solder to Whitworth is probably the dumbest thing I have read today and I have read a lot of dumb things today.


dude NOBODY is saying solder=whitworth im simply saying BBI hasnt necessarily been spot on with these LT potential signings thats all
Again meh  
Joey in VA : 3/13/2018 5:39 pm : link
Not worth the $ it will take.
RE: Solder is probably around  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13862809 Breeze_94 said:
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the 8th-12th best LT in the league. Flowers is somewhere in the upper 20's or 30's. Huge upgrade. We are seeing LT's play well into their 30's (Peters, Whitworth, Thomas).

At the very worst, we get a solid LT who we can trust to protect Eli or our young QB's blindside and a definite upgrade at probably the 2nd most important position on offense. I'd be willing to pay 12 or 13mil for him. Anything more than that is no bueno.



+1 agree
Update on Solder  
Breeze_94 : 3/13/2018 5:42 pm : link
Tom Curran (NBCSN Boston) said on Periscope that Solder will not be taking any visits yet and would like to stay in New England, market is probably 12-13mil a year.
The Giants need a OT  
David B. : 3/13/2018 5:42 pm : link
More than they needed a OG. Solder isn't Ogden or Pace, but he is solid, and would certainly be an upgrade over what the Giants have had.
I don’t think he is leaving the Pats. Only if Bill B low balls him.  
Ivan15 : 3/13/2018 5:45 pm : link
He will give a big discount to stay with the Patriots.
He's at BEST  
Dave on the UWS : 3/13/2018 5:45 pm : link
barely adequate. Would he be an upgrade? Yes but at what cost? Eli's blind side would still be a weak point. I don't trust the beat writers. I think most of this is speculation. I would expect this to be DG doing his due diligence.
I absolutely understand  
Emil : 3/13/2018 5:47 pm : link
those who are not pleased with how things are going today, but signing a quality starting LT is an absolute must. Even more so than an all-pro OG in Norwell.

The problem with the Giants roster is the product of years of horrendous drafting. As a result, the Giants are not going to be able to FA their way out of this. The hole is too deep. What they can do is use their money wisely to fill critical holes. A start LT is one, a reliable veteran RB is another, another legit NFL caliber WR is one more. No doubt fixing the roster is going to be a long process, but if the Giants have a middle of the road OL next year, a Flanker (X WR) to work opposite OBJ, and an above average ground game, there is no reason why the team can't improve to at least 500. I know, big deal, but you have to start somewhere. The organization needs to get the culture of winning back.
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Diver_Down : 3/13/2018 5:50 pm : link
In comment 13862813 Essex said:
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In comment 13862799 BleedBlue said:


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how many clowns here on BBI said pass on whitworth too? he was the BEST pass protecting LT in football last year...
i guess we missed the boat on that one huh? we have an aging QB if you want to be AT ALL competitive, it starts with the OL. sign solder who still has 3-5 left in him and draft a OG in either nelson or one of the round 2 guys....

sorry but you guys are crazy if you dont think this would be a massive upgrade to our OL



+100


are you insane, Whitworth was all pro in 2015 and 2017. Now, his age was an issue and I can understand passing on him, but to equate Nate Solder to Whitworth is probably the dumbest thing I have read today and I have read a lot of dumb things today.


I was one of the earliest proponents of signing Whitworth as early as November '16. Many posters deserve to be called out for being a proponent of Solder, but being against Whitworth. Whitworth is a prototypical LT. Solder will likely sign a similiar deal whether it is here or elsewhere. If he signs here, there will be many that will herald it as great signing. But a year ago, Whitworth wasn't worth the money. Bunch of hypocrites ...
Solder would be great as it will move Flowers to Rt or guard  
George from PA : 3/13/2018 5:52 pm : link
Improving 2/3 spots.

But I suspect still a major long shot
I was hoping for this..  
prdave73 : 3/13/2018 6:08 pm : link
Lets get this done.
Long shot. He's trying to drive his price up for BB  
Blue21 : 3/13/2018 6:09 pm : link
Doubt he's leaving NE.
RE: Long shot. He's trying to drive his price up for BB  
Mdgiantsfan : 3/13/2018 6:13 pm : link
In comment 13862918 Blue21 said:
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Doubt he's leaving NE.

This^^^
I'd be a fan of the Solder signing  
Breeze_94 : 3/13/2018 6:13 pm : link
if the price is right, but I don't see him leaving NE.

But he is an upgrade, still hopefully has a few good years left, and he is a true Left Tackle on a roster that doesn't have that guy on it right now. At the very least, he is a solid option who buys us time to groom a young Left Tackle from this years draft class or next years (more realistic).
RE: Long shot. He's trying to drive his price up for BB  
TheMick7 : 3/13/2018 6:14 pm : link
In comment 13862918 Blue21 said:
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Doubt he's leaving NE.


+2
This is better than Norwell, IMO  
mrvax : 3/13/2018 6:15 pm : link
The LT problem is the hardest to solve. We need to work with Wheeler and any draftees to think about a back up LT and the future.

We can get guards and maybe even RT more easily.

See if Flowers can play anything OK.
Spotrack  
mrvax : 3/13/2018 6:18 pm : link
calculates Solder at Avg. Salary: $13,280,758.
That would be great.
Fingers crossed.
Dave Gettleman with his 2nd at bat  
est1986 : 3/13/2018 6:21 pm : link
I bet he strikes out again
Always tricky with Pats Olinemen...  
bw in dc : 3/13/2018 6:22 pm : link
because Scarnecchia is such a savant at building an oline.

Solder has talent, but is he a beneficiary of Scarnecchia's wizardry...?
with whats out there, lack of good ol, and drafting being a  
micky : 3/13/2018 6:24 pm : link
crap shoot on ol

this is really going to be hard for them get the right pieces or fixing the ol this upcoming year.

may have to hit on maybe 1 or 2 serviceable offensive linemen and fill or piece in rest and hope for best.
RE: Dave Gettleman with his 2nd at bat  
GFAN52 : 3/13/2018 6:26 pm : link
In comment 13862940 est1986 said:
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I bet he strikes out again


It's not like DG can force a player to sign with the Giants where they are looking for more money, or whether they don't want to leave their current team.
RE: Dave Gettleman with his 2nd at bat  
McNally's_Nuts : 3/13/2018 6:30 pm : link
In comment 13862940 est1986 said:
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I bet he strikes out again


You’re the worst
always questions players leaving NE..  
2cents : 3/13/2018 6:33 pm : link
but this guy has the pedigree, proven he can preform at the highest levels and has shown some durability.

locking him up for 13 + mill over the next 3-4 years is money well spent imo. if you also consider our need at T, the lack of options in FA and the draft's depth at guard; this becomes more and more attractive.

Get it done, DG.
RE: RE: Dave Gettleman with his 2nd at bat  
est1986 : 3/13/2018 6:37 pm : link
In comment 13862968 McNally's_Nuts said:
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In comment 13862940 est1986 said:


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I bet he strikes out again



You’re the worst


Truth hurts, doesn’t it? Wait until you see how bad he fucks up the draft.
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