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Breer: NYG in on Solder

Defenderdawg : 3/13/2018 5:13 pm
Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer)
3/13/18, 5:07 PM
Another team in on Patriots OT Nate Solder: The New York Giants. After losing out on Andrew Norwell, their search for offensive line help continues. Pats will have a battle to hold on to Tom Brady's left tackle.
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wow  
mdc1 : 3/13/2018 9:25 pm : link
can we get any younger?

seriously
RE: Again meh  
Rover : 3/13/2018 9:44 pm : link
In comment 13862821 Joey in VA said:
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Not worth the $ it will take.

Agreed. He’s better as a Pat than any other team.
PFT ranked him the 30th best tackle.
Does anybody remember the undersized center  
big canoe jeff : 3/13/2018 9:46 pm : link
That Boisture said was mean as a snake?
RE: Giants absolutely need a LT  
Rory : 3/13/2018 10:00 pm : link
In comment 13863085 Vanzetti said:
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If they have to overpay, so be it.


1000% agree , especially if your planning to draft a franchise QB for the future

Also this moves Flowers to guard or RT which could be a second huge addition to the line
Seen a lot of Pats games.....  
Doomster : 3/13/2018 10:00 pm : link
Not sold on overpaying for Solder....by the time this team is ready to really compete for a SB, he will be too old....

We need building blocks to start with, not blocks that will need to be replaced in a season or two...

This team will make moves that make you scratch your head, like re-signing Herz and cutting DRC......I feel Gettleman is trying to go middle of the road instead of a full rebuild...

So be it....so long as the end justifies the means......
Seen a lot of Pats games.....  
Doomster : 3/13/2018 10:01 pm : link
Not sold on overpaying for Solder....by the time this team is ready to really compete for a SB, he will be too old....

We need building blocks to start with, not blocks that will need to be replaced in a season or two...

This team will make moves that make you scratch your head, like re-signing Herz and cutting DRC......I feel Gettleman is trying to go middle of the road instead of a full rebuild...

So be it....so long as the end justifies the means......
RE: Seen a lot of Pats games.....  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/13/2018 10:02 pm : link
In comment 13863511 Doomster said:
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Not sold on overpaying for Solder....by the time this team is ready to really compete for a SB, he will be too old....

We need building blocks to start with, not blocks that will need to be replaced in a season or two...

This team will make moves that make you scratch your head, like re-signing Herz and cutting DRC......I feel Gettleman is trying to go middle of the road instead of a full rebuild...

So be it....so long as the end justifies the means......


Bingo, he’s nowhere near as good as the money he’s going to get for a 30 year old. Hard pass on Solder
I wonder if they are in part driving Solder price up to get Flemming  
Eric on Li : 3/13/2018 10:04 pm : link
or possibly just hoping to get 1 or the other. It would seem likely they are in on both of them.
RE: Does anybody remember the undersized center  
Matt in SGS : 3/13/2018 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13863482 big canoe jeff said:
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That Boisture said was mean as a snake?


Ben Fricke was the center he was talking about. He said he was tough as a boot and would choke you to death.
Yea  
big canoe jeff : 3/13/2018 10:24 pm : link
And cut in camp
Thx
RE: RE: Seen a lot of Pats games.....  
TheVette : 3/13/2018 11:55 pm : link
In comment 13863514 BigBlue4You09 said:
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In comment 13863511 Doomster said:


Not sold on overpaying for Solder....by the time this team is ready to really compete for a SB, he will be too old....


Bingo, he’s nowhere near as good as the money he’s going to get for a 30 year old. Hard pass on Solder


The guy to sign was Norwell - could have gotten another 10 years out of him. Solder has already played the best he will ever play. At 30, he's not the guy to be signing. Reminds me of the same backward ass thinking when Reese cut ties with 24 year-old, SB champion, emerging star Linvale Joseph, and opted to go with older, less talented, and useless vets like Jenkins and Patterson.
do you people even understand how free agency works?  
blueblood : 3/13/2018 11:58 pm : link
that the player can actually CHOOSE to go anywhere they want to??
RE: RE: RE: Seen a lot of Pats games.....  
blueblood : 3/14/2018 12:00 am : link
In comment 13863663 TheVette said:
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In comment 13863511 Doomster said:


Not sold on overpaying for Solder....by the time this team is ready to really compete for a SB, he will be too old....


Bingo, he’s nowhere near as good as the money he’s going to get for a 30 year old. Hard pass on Solder



The guy to sign was Norwell - could have gotten another 10 years out of him. Solder has already played the best he will ever play. At 30, he's not the guy to be signing. Reminds me of the same backward ass thinking when Reese cut ties with 24 year-old, SB champion, emerging star Linvale Joseph, and opted to go with older, less talented, and useless vets like Jenkins and Patterson.


funny how last year everyone wanted Whitworth who was five years older.. now we dont want a younger player who has played on a championship team ??

this place just loses its mind on the offseason..
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TheVette : 3/14/2018 12:10 am : link
In comment 13863672 blueblood said:
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funny how last year everyone wanted Whitworth who was five years older.. now we dont want a younger player who has played on a championship team ??

this place just loses its mind on the offseason..


What's really FUNNY is that you are comparing Solder, who has made ZERO Pro Bowls in 7 years to Whitworth who has been 1st Team All Pro and made 5 Pro Bowls. Comparing an apple to a quashed orange, but if you think you must...
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blueblood : 3/14/2018 12:13 am : link
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funny how last year everyone wanted Whitworth who was five years older.. now we dont want a younger player who has played on a championship team ??

this place just loses its mind on the offseason..



What's really FUNNY is that you are comparing Solder, who has made ZERO Pro Bowls in 7 years to Whitworth who has been 1st Team All Pro and made 5 Pro Bowls. Comparing an apple to a quashed orange, but if you think you must...


sorry but pro bowls dont really mean much to me..

here is the reality.. there isnt much talent in free agency. Solder like it or not is the best tackle out there. The Giants made an offer to Norwell. he chose another team. Thats how it works.. Just like you can chose another place of employment.. so can they.. fans just dont seem to able to deal with the fact that someone didnt chose THEIR team..
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TheVette : 3/14/2018 12:25 am : link
In comment 13863681 blueblood said:
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What's really FUNNY is that you are comparing Solder, who has made ZERO Pro Bowls in 7 years to Whitworth who has been 1st Team All Pro and made 5 Pro Bowls. Comparing an apple to a quashed orange, but if you think you must...



sorry but pro bowls dont really mean much to me..

here is the reality.. there isnt much talent in free agency. Solder like it or not is the best tackle out there. The Giants made an offer to Norwell. he chose another team. Thats how it works.. Just like you can chose another place of employment.. so can they.. fans just dont seem to able to deal with the fact that someone didnt chose THEIR team..


Pro Bowls don;t mean much is easy to say when a guy blocking for Tom Brady has not made 1 in 7 years. Just because you do not get your guy Norwell means that you turn around and overpay for a less productive, older, and inferior player. What fans get - and apparently you do not - is that you do not take a FA snub and compound the issue by trying to make up for it. See decision to pass on 24 year old Linvale Joseph and knee-jerk older, less talented Mike Patterson and Cullen Jenkins
Thevette  
jtgiants : 3/14/2018 12:32 am : link
Go watch the tape of the Superbowl. Solder is solid. Not great but solid. If say he's between the 8th and 12th best left tackle in football. On a four year deal that expires at his age 33 is all good
RE: RE: RE: RE: Dave Gettleman with his 2nd at bat  
est1986 : 3/14/2018 1:13 am : link
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I bet he strikes out again



You’re the worst



Truth hurts, doesn’t it? Wait until you see how bad he fucks up the draft.



Hopefully you’ll be banned by then. Whiny little bitch troll


What’s got your panties bunched up new guy? Whatever it is, I am sure you can get over it & keep scrolling on...

Dave G couldn’t get the top head coach he wanted or top tier free agents he wanted/needed for the OL... facts. Didn’t like the Dave G hire and that’s not going to change until he makes some good moves.. haven’t seen any yet. It’s a shame how such a poor OL a year ago looks to only be getting worse now...

Don’t like the Ogletree trade...
Don’t like the DRC cut...
Herzlich...?
Greco...?
Stewart...?
Are you for real?
It’s early, yeah, but so far, no bueno...
RE: Thevette  
TheVette : 3/14/2018 1:17 am : link
In comment 13863691 jtgiants said:
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Go watch the tape of the Superbowl. Solder is solid. Not great but solid. If say he's between the 8th and 12th best left tackle in football. On a four year deal that expires at his age 33 is all good


I'm not saying he's bad - just not worth the $15M/year he may command. if there was no cap - sure, but are you saying you would give him a 4yr/$56M-$60M deal? I would not go there at all.
Thevette  
jtgiants : 3/14/2018 2:20 am : link
I'm saying he's a top 8 to 12 LT. That's a major upgrade from flowers. Unfortunately that's the going rate. He'll help
Vette, certainly entitled to your opinion but  
George from PA : 3/14/2018 6:03 am : link
Solder's market value IS what he is worth. If someone is willing to pay him.

Now, if you feel that it is a mistaken in judgement by he team, maybe.

Desperate times leads to desperate measures.

The Giants have Wheeler as our only LT prospect.

Solder might cause a domino effect across entire OL. Solder solidifies LT,which allows others to go to better fitting positions. Win/win
Who cares about the money?  
Big Rick in FL : 3/14/2018 6:09 am : link
It's not yours. There are always ways to make cap space. The Eagles were 9 million over the cap and have signed 2 free agents so far plus traded for Michael Bennett.
Down To Giants & Texans  
pa_giant_fan : 3/14/2018 7:11 am : link
Per Ian Rapoport. Which means he'll go back to NE
Solder at LT & moving Flowers to guard..  
Sean : 3/14/2018 7:18 am : link
hopefully could really improve this line.
Going forward  
AdamBrag : 3/14/2018 7:31 am : link
Solder is likely a slightly below average left tackle. That's a huge upgrade for us, no doubt, but paying him as the top left tackle in football will make it really tight on our cap space. Signing Solder could be similar to when we signed JPP last year.
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