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adamg : 3/13/2018 5:39 pm
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I actually like the signing  
Sammo85 : 3/13/2018 6:56 pm : link
Our RBs have been terrible at the fundamentals of the position and cannot pass block to save their lives.

He’ll be a solid vet presence and mentor. He can still pound it in short yardage situations. He’ll get maybe 10 carries a game, if that. He also is likely an aid to Shula in implementing the run side of the offense.
RE: Stewart Gallman Perkins  
TheVette : 3/13/2018 6:56 pm : link
In comment 13863045 bc4life said:
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and a decent draft pick - that's not a bad stable.

Now for that small matter of getting them some effective blockers.


It's actually pretty bad. Gallman is the only player with NFL-level talent of the 3. Stewart is fried like an egg, and Perkins will be the Arena League in another year.
he's a veteran  
bc4life : 3/13/2018 6:58 pm : link
neither Gallman or Perins are proven commodities - Pretty sure they'll be drafting a rb too. at least one.

Herzlich, certainly not a sexy move but new DC must have signed off on it. Must have a plan on how he'll use him.
RE: Uninspiring Signing  
PetesHereNow : 3/13/2018 6:59 pm : link
In comment 13863046 TheVette said:
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Stewart, Herzlich - really not getting either of these choices. Stewart is already done, and Herzlich adds nothing.

Lousy day for DG - didn't earn a dime of whatever Mara is paying him. Fell back on 2 guys who no one else would have signed.


DG: Andrew, it’s Dave here. We’d like to sign you for x amount for 5 years.

Norwell: Sorry, buddy. I know you gave me my first contract, but Jacksonville is my choice.

WTF is DG supposed to do? Beg?
RE: RE: RE: Stewart vs Darkwa  
Vanzetti : 3/13/2018 7:00 pm : link
In comment 13862902 Emil said:
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Stewart is a power back, who also catches the ball well. He had a career high 47 receptions in 2011.




Very true, but I bet he can still catch.



He had 36 targets the last two years and caught only 16 of them. That is awful for a RB. Beyond bad. So, I really don't think he is much of receiver.
Norwell  
bc4life : 3/13/2018 7:01 pm : link
was always viewed as a likely signing by means of BBI vision. Undrafted FA - so this will be his biggest payday - never thought they had a realistic chance of getting him.
The organization  
Reb8thVA : 3/13/2018 7:01 pm : link
Is really crushing it today. Sexy moves
RE: As long as it’s cheap  
Vanzetti : 3/13/2018 7:02 pm : link
In comment 13862996 big canoe jeff said:
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And no guaranteed $$$


Exactly. Until we know the numbers, judging the signing is impossible.
Not ready to give up on DGs plan yet  
TMS : 3/13/2018 7:02 pm : link
are you? Give him the benefit of the doubt ?
RE: Not ready to give up on DGs plan yet  
arcarsenal : 3/13/2018 7:03 pm : link
In comment 13863073 TMS said:
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are you? Give him the benefit of the doubt ?


I don't think anyone can figure out what it is yet.
I'll go on record  
rasbutant : 3/13/2018 7:04 pm : link
as saying I like the move.
RE: RE: What’s the difference between him  
N9NE11 : 3/13/2018 7:04 pm : link
In comment 13863035 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 13863012 NikkiMac said:


Quote:By a mile


And Blount and everybody wants Blount he’s just as good in that role .....



The difference is Blount is better.
He keeps the chains moving  
NYG_Jase : 3/13/2018 7:05 pm : link
Good signing, great signing if its on the cheap. Can catch the football, pass protect well and will get the tough yards on third down. Bye Darkwa..... who couldn’t catch and that doesn’t fit our offensive scheme.
RE: Didn't they say they wanted RB who could  
Gmen4Life21 : 3/13/2018 7:05 pm : link
In comment 13862884 bigblue18 said:
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catch the ball. This guy never caught the ball in his prime

They may have. There’s also gonna be more than one RB used. Giants also lacked a power back. Not done adding to the position either.
Darkwa  
bc4life : 3/13/2018 7:06 pm : link
showed glimpses but he had a hard time staying healthy
RE: Not ready to give up on DGs plan yet  
The_Boss : 3/13/2018 7:06 pm : link
In comment 13863073 TMS said:
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are you? Give him the benefit of the doubt ?


My guess is he’ll be dumpster diving for OL “help” by Thursday or Friday.
Old to older  
N9NE11 : 3/13/2018 7:06 pm : link
I thought the idea was to get younger not close to retirement
RE: RE: Uninspiring Signing  
TheVette : 3/13/2018 7:06 pm : link
In comment 13863060 PetesHereNow said:
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DG: Andrew, it’s Dave here. We’d like to sign you for x amount for 5 years.

Norwell: Sorry, buddy. I know you gave me my first contract, but Jacksonville is my choice.

WTF is DG supposed to do? Beg?


Are you saying that being spurned by Norwell meana that DG needs to "Make up for it" by signing Stewart? How are bout Dion Lewis? How about McKinnon? Number of teams DG outbid to land Stewart and Herzlich = 0
RE: RE: RE: Uninspiring Signing  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2018 7:08 pm : link
In comment 13863091 TheVette said:
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In comment 13863046 TheVette said:


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DG: Andrew, it’s Dave here. We’d like to sign you for x amount for 5 years.

Norwell: Sorry, buddy. I know you gave me my first contract, but Jacksonville is my choice.

WTF is DG supposed to do? Beg?



Are you saying that being spurned by Norwell meana that DG needs to "Make up for it" by signing Stewart? How are bout Dion Lewis? How about McKinnon? Number of teams DG outbid to land Stewart and Herzlich = 0



im glad they didnt get mckinnon or lewis...why spend big dollars there with this draft class coming up next month? i 100% wouldnt sign either
Solid move  
BigBlue1013 : 3/13/2018 7:09 pm : link
This is a simple move to improve the Locker Room atmosphere and for Stewart to bring Leadership to the RB group Barkley(TBD)+Gallman+Stewart
This article is pretty telling as to why he is now a Giant.  
LI NHB : 3/13/2018 7:10 pm : link
To those of you blowing this totally out of proportion, give this a read.

It's not just a veteran presence, he's a beacon in a locker room.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Not ready to give up on DGs plan yet  
N9NE11 : 3/13/2018 7:10 pm : link
In comment 13863088 The_Boss said:
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In comment 13863073 TMS said:


Quote:where is Reese when we need him...lol


are you? Give him the benefit of the doubt ?



My guess is he’ll be dumpster diving for OL “help” by Thursday or Friday.
RE: Solid move  
TheVette : 3/13/2018 7:11 pm : link
In comment 13863100 BigBlue1013 said:
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This is a simple move to improve the Locker Room atmosphere and for Stewart to bring Leadership to the RB group Barkley(TBD)+Gallman+Stewart


Locker room leadership only counts of the guy has any talent. Hire Stewart as RB coach, hire Herzlich as ST coach, but don't "pay" them to play, because neither one can.
He still runs hard  
bc4life : 3/13/2018 7:18 pm : link
has some value
RE: He still runs hard  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/13/2018 7:20 pm : link
In comment 13863120 bc4life said:
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has some value


Are you related to him by any chance?
is this a joke?  
Enzo : 3/13/2018 7:20 pm : link
An old running back who's no longer...good at being a running back? Anything more than the minimum and this is just dumb. Actually, even at the minimum this is dumb.
No problem with the signing, provided  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/13/2018 7:20 pm : link
the contract isn't ridiculous. I don't think he's done yet & we need all the good locker room guys we can get after '17.
RE: I don’t get it  
AcidTest : 3/13/2018 7:20 pm : link
In comment 13862870 The_Boss said:
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30 old RB with a ton of miles for a 3 win team ahead of a draft deep at RB.


Agreed. Why? Please don't tell me about the need for a "veteran presence." This is puzzling at best. He's 30 with tons of miles.
RE: RE: I don’t get it  
AcidTest : 3/13/2018 7:22 pm : link
In comment 13863130 AcidTest said:
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30 old RB with a ton of miles for a 3 win team ahead of a draft deep at RB.



Agreed. Why? Please don't tell me about the need for a "veteran presence." This is puzzling at best. He's 30 with tons of miles.


Excuse me, 31.
RE: RE: I don’t get it  
TheVette : 3/13/2018 7:24 pm : link
In comment 13863130 AcidTest said:
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In comment 13862870 The_Boss said:


30 old RB with a ton of miles for a 3 win team ahead of a draft deep at RB.



Agreed. Why? Please don't tell me about the need for a "veteran presence." This is puzzling at best. He's 30 with tons of miles.


Stewart is the type of guy who would be there weeks from now - why start with him (and Herzlich)? Did DG think he needed to be bold and outbid to get these 2 guys on Day 1?
You guys are getting too worked up about a signing that is probably  
PetesHereNow : 3/13/2018 7:25 pm : link
Near the vet minimum. Clearly DG doesn’t think the guy is done. I could see your points if this is all he does this month. But it’s not a crime to sign a vet back who’s a hard runner, a good blocker, and a mentor in the locker room.
he was cooked  
adambear : 3/13/2018 7:29 pm : link
last year.
Old RB, terrible offensive line  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/13/2018 7:31 pm : link
Temper your excitement if possible.
3.4 ypc  
brunswick : 3/13/2018 7:35 pm : link
behind best guard in football...awful signing
no dick in hoboken  
bc4life : 3/13/2018 7:41 pm : link
I'm not related to him. Look at 2016-2017 highlights
Does he come with a  
RottenApple : 3/13/2018 7:43 pm : link
wheelchair?
RE: 3.4 ypc  
TheVette : 3/13/2018 7:44 pm : link
In comment 13863172 brunswick said:
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behind best guard in football...awful signing


Agree - this signing makes zero sense. His 3.4 ypc will drop to under 2.0 behind this Giants OL
I don’t think he’s any more then Veteran depth.....  
Simms11 : 3/13/2018 7:49 pm : link
He could certainly be that short yardage and goal line back. The guy to push the pile and also get a few carries during the game. He’s not going to be a starter. I think he’s got a role however. Regardless of whether the Giants draft another RB in Apr or not, this move was needed for that RB room.

He had a60 yard run against the Vikes last year and also had 6 TDs. I think he’ll be effective in a role.
not Rashad Jennings  
bluepepper : 3/13/2018 7:50 pm : link
Jennings was about the same age but didn't have the mileage. Plus he could catch.

As for the veteran stuff - if there's one position on the field where you don't need experience it's RB. Guys come in day one and play the position at a high level.
Eli might like this signing  
bc4life : 3/13/2018 7:55 pm : link
based on pass protection. He hasn't had a real man rb protecting his back since Jacobs left.
Homer Simpson Move  
nflscouting : 3/13/2018 7:55 pm : link
as Homer would say D'Oh!
.  
arcarsenal : 3/13/2018 8:01 pm : link
I think when you sign a RB and the best things people are finding to say about him have nothing to do with actually carrying the football, you probably haven't signed a very good player.

Leadership and blocking are great. But they're worth little if the player doesn't do his primary job well.

Stewart has a ton of milage on him, he's had a lot of injuries - just three full seasons in a decade of being in the league - and is now 30 years old.

I'm not even sure we'll even get the type of year we got from Jennings in 2015.
Does he come with  
Section331 : 3/13/2018 8:02 pm : link
the fork in his back?

I don’t get this move. This isn’t a team that is a veteran RB away from a SB. Not the end of the world, but an odd allocation of resources.
I really, really don't understand paying free agent money to RBs  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/13/2018 8:07 pm : link
with this kind of mileage.

More than any other position, RB is one that you can absolutely get in rounds 2-3-4 if you do your homework.

The Giants don't seem to have lost their fetish for splitting RB carries between six different backs. Hate that too. Just give the guy the ball and let him have a game.
Someone cue  
dcp : 3/13/2018 8:42 pm : link
Deangelo Williams for a complete Panther RB reunion on the Giants. I don't see Pat Shurmer involved in this process. Doubtful he would agree to old wheels Stewart. Draft RB's, don't sign old guys.
RE: Someone cue  
arcarsenal : 3/13/2018 8:43 pm : link
In comment 13863362 dcp said:
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Deangelo Williams for a complete Panther RB reunion on the Giants. I don't see Pat Shurmer involved in this process. Doubtful he would agree to old wheels Stewart. Draft RB's, don't sign old guys.


Don't hold your breath.

DW is not a fan of Dave Gettleman.. to put things lightly.
RE: I really, really don't understand paying free agent money to RBs  
Sand_TheWedge : 3/13/2018 8:50 pm : link
In comment 13863268 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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with this kind of mileage.

More than any other position, RB is one that you can absolutely get in rounds 2-3-4 if you do your homework.

The Giants don't seem to have lost their fetish for splitting RB carries between six different backs. Hate that too. Just give the guy the ball and let him have a game.


He’s here to teach the system and teach pass protection to the rookie we draft this year. Come on fellas we need someone to teach the rook!! Perkins will be cut before the season. Rookie + Gallman + Stewart
Point AAA  
Dragon : 3/14/2018 7:17 am : link
This is a signing you could have done anytime before camp but right now it's 100% totally unnecessary.
RE: Point AAA  
Bill L : 3/14/2018 7:43 am : link
In comment 13863784 Dragon said:
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This is a signing you could have done anytime before camp but right now it's 100% totally unnecessary.
You're saying that you know that he had no other offers and would never receive any other offers?
If he's not broken  
ATL_Giants : 3/14/2018 8:37 am : link
I have hope for this move.
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