Our RBs have been terrible at the fundamentals of the position and cannot pass block to save their lives.
He’ll be a solid vet presence and mentor. He can still pound it in short yardage situations. He’ll get maybe 10 carries a game, if that. He also is likely an aid to Shula in implementing the run side of the offense.
and a decent draft pick - that's not a bad stable.
Now for that small matter of getting them some effective blockers.
It's actually pretty bad. Gallman is the only player with NFL-level talent of the 3. Stewart is fried like an egg, and Perkins will be the Arena League in another year.
was always viewed as a likely signing by means of BBI vision. Undrafted FA - so this will be his biggest payday - never thought they had a realistic chance of getting him.
Good signing, great signing if its on the cheap. Can catch the football, pass protect well and will get the tough yards on third down. Bye Darkwa..... who couldn’t catch and that doesn’t fit our offensive scheme.
DG: Andrew, it’s Dave here. We’d like to sign you for x amount for 5 years.
Norwell: Sorry, buddy. I know you gave me my first contract, but Jacksonville is my choice.
WTF is DG supposed to do? Beg?
Are you saying that being spurned by Norwell meana that DG needs to "Make up for it" by signing Stewart? How are bout Dion Lewis? How about McKinnon? Number of teams DG outbid to land Stewart and Herzlich = 0
DG: Andrew, it’s Dave here. We’d like to sign you for x amount for 5 years.
Norwell: Sorry, buddy. I know you gave me my first contract, but Jacksonville is my choice.
WTF is DG supposed to do? Beg?
Are you saying that being spurned by Norwell meana that DG needs to "Make up for it" by signing Stewart? How are bout Dion Lewis? How about McKinnon? Number of teams DG outbid to land Stewart and Herzlich = 0
im glad they didnt get mckinnon or lewis...why spend big dollars there with this draft class coming up next month? i 100% wouldnt sign either
This is a simple move to improve the Locker Room atmosphere and for Stewart to bring Leadership to the RB group Barkley(TBD)+Gallman+Stewart
Locker room leadership only counts of the guy has any talent. Hire Stewart as RB coach, hire Herzlich as ST coach, but don't "pay" them to play, because neither one can.
An old running back who's no longer...good at being a running back? Anything more than the minimum and this is just dumb. Actually, even at the minimum this is dumb.
30 old RB with a ton of miles for a 3 win team ahead of a draft deep at RB.
Agreed. Why? Please don't tell me about the need for a "veteran presence." This is puzzling at best. He's 30 with tons of miles.
Stewart is the type of guy who would be there weeks from now - why start with him (and Herzlich)? Did DG think he needed to be bold and outbid to get these 2 guys on Day 1?
You guys are getting too worked up about a signing that is probably Â
Near the vet minimum. Clearly DG doesn’t think the guy is done. I could see your points if this is all he does this month. But it’s not a crime to sign a vet back who’s a hard runner, a good blocker, and a mentor in the locker room.
He could certainly be that short yardage and goal line back. The guy to push the pile and also get a few carries during the game. He’s not going to be a starter. I think he’s got a role however. Regardless of whether the Giants draft another RB in Apr or not, this move was needed for that RB room.
He had a60 yard run against the Vikes last year and also had 6 TDs. I think he’ll be effective in a role.
Jennings was about the same age but didn't have the mileage. Plus he could catch.
As for the veteran stuff - if there's one position on the field where you don't need experience it's RB. Guys come in day one and play the position at a high level.
I think when you sign a RB and the best things people are finding to say about him have nothing to do with actually carrying the football, you probably haven't signed a very good player.
Leadership and blocking are great. But they're worth little if the player doesn't do his primary job well.
Stewart has a ton of milage on him, he's had a lot of injuries - just three full seasons in a decade of being in the league - and is now 30 years old.
I'm not even sure we'll even get the type of year we got from Jennings in 2015.
More than any other position, RB is one that you can absolutely get in rounds 2-3-4 if you do your homework.
The Giants don't seem to have lost their fetish for splitting RB carries between six different backs. Hate that too. Just give the guy the ball and let him have a game.
Deangelo Williams for a complete Panther RB reunion on the Giants. I don't see Pat Shurmer involved in this process. Doubtful he would agree to old wheels Stewart. Draft RB's, don't sign old guys.
Deangelo Williams for a complete Panther RB reunion on the Giants. I don't see Pat Shurmer involved in this process. Doubtful he would agree to old wheels Stewart. Draft RB's, don't sign old guys.
Don't hold your breath.
DW is not a fan of Dave Gettleman.. to put things lightly.
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More than any other position, RB is one that you can absolutely get in rounds 2-3-4 if you do your homework.
The Giants don't seem to have lost their fetish for splitting RB carries between six different backs. Hate that too. Just give the guy the ball and let him have a game.
He’s here to teach the system and teach pass protection to the rookie we draft this year. Come on fellas we need someone to teach the rook!! Perkins will be cut before the season. Rookie + Gallman + Stewart
He’ll be a solid vet presence and mentor. He can still pound it in short yardage situations. He’ll get maybe 10 carries a game, if that. He also is likely an aid to Shula in implementing the run side of the offense.
Now for that small matter of getting them some effective blockers.
It's actually pretty bad. Gallman is the only player with NFL-level talent of the 3. Stewart is fried like an egg, and Perkins will be the Arena League in another year.
Herzlich, certainly not a sexy move but new DC must have signed off on it. Must have a plan on how he'll use him.
Lousy day for DG - didn't earn a dime of whatever Mara is paying him. Fell back on 2 guys who no one else would have signed.
DG: Andrew, it’s Dave here. We’d like to sign you for x amount for 5 years.
Norwell: Sorry, buddy. I know you gave me my first contract, but Jacksonville is my choice.
WTF is DG supposed to do? Beg?
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Stewart is a power back, who also catches the ball well. He had a career high 47 receptions in 2011.
Very true, but I bet he can still catch.
He had 36 targets the last two years and caught only 16 of them. That is awful for a RB. Beyond bad. So, I really don't think he is much of receiver.
Exactly. Until we know the numbers, judging the signing is impossible.
I don't think anyone can figure out what it is yet.
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And Blount and everybody wants Blount he’s just as good in that role .....
The difference is Blount is better.
They may have. There’s also gonna be more than one RB used. Giants also lacked a power back. Not done adding to the position either.
My guess is he’ll be dumpster diving for OL “help” by Thursday or Friday.
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DG: Andrew, it’s Dave here. We’d like to sign you for x amount for 5 years.
Norwell: Sorry, buddy. I know you gave me my first contract, but Jacksonville is my choice.
WTF is DG supposed to do? Beg?
Are you saying that being spurned by Norwell meana that DG needs to "Make up for it" by signing Stewart? How are bout Dion Lewis? How about McKinnon? Number of teams DG outbid to land Stewart and Herzlich = 0
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DG: Andrew, it’s Dave here. We’d like to sign you for x amount for 5 years.
Norwell: Sorry, buddy. I know you gave me my first contract, but Jacksonville is my choice.
WTF is DG supposed to do? Beg?
Are you saying that being spurned by Norwell meana that DG needs to "Make up for it" by signing Stewart? How are bout Dion Lewis? How about McKinnon? Number of teams DG outbid to land Stewart and Herzlich = 0
im glad they didnt get mckinnon or lewis...why spend big dollars there with this draft class coming up next month? i 100% wouldnt sign either
It's not just a veteran presence, he's a beacon in a locker room.
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are you? Give him the benefit of the doubt ?
My guess is he’ll be dumpster diving for OL “help” by Thursday or Friday.
Locker room leadership only counts of the guy has any talent. Hire Stewart as RB coach, hire Herzlich as ST coach, but don't "pay" them to play, because neither one can.
Are you related to him by any chance?
Agreed. Why? Please don't tell me about the need for a "veteran presence." This is puzzling at best. He's 30 with tons of miles.
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30 old RB with a ton of miles for a 3 win team ahead of a draft deep at RB.
Agreed. Why? Please don't tell me about the need for a "veteran presence." This is puzzling at best. He's 30 with tons of miles.
Excuse me, 31.
30 old RB with a ton of miles for a 3 win team ahead of a draft deep at RB.
Agreed. Why? Please don't tell me about the need for a "veteran presence." This is puzzling at best. He's 30 with tons of miles.
Stewart is the type of guy who would be there weeks from now - why start with him (and Herzlich)? Did DG think he needed to be bold and outbid to get these 2 guys on Day 1?
Agree - this signing makes zero sense. His 3.4 ypc will drop to under 2.0 behind this Giants OL
He had a60 yard run against the Vikes last year and also had 6 TDs. I think he’ll be effective in a role.
As for the veteran stuff - if there's one position on the field where you don't need experience it's RB. Guys come in day one and play the position at a high level.
Leadership and blocking are great. But they're worth little if the player doesn't do his primary job well.
Stewart has a ton of milage on him, he's had a lot of injuries - just three full seasons in a decade of being in the league - and is now 30 years old.
I'm not even sure we'll even get the type of year we got from Jennings in 2015.
I don’t get this move. This isn’t a team that is a veteran RB away from a SB. Not the end of the world, but an odd allocation of resources.
More than any other position, RB is one that you can absolutely get in rounds 2-3-4 if you do your homework.
The Giants don't seem to have lost their fetish for splitting RB carries between six different backs. Hate that too. Just give the guy the ball and let him have a game.
Don't hold your breath.
DW is not a fan of Dave Gettleman.. to put things lightly.
More than any other position, RB is one that you can absolutely get in rounds 2-3-4 if you do your homework.
The Giants don't seem to have lost their fetish for splitting RB carries between six different backs. Hate that too. Just give the guy the ball and let him have a game.
He’s here to teach the system and teach pass protection to the rookie we draft this year. Come on fellas we need someone to teach the rook!! Perkins will be cut before the season. Rookie + Gallman + Stewart