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The #Giants are expected to sign former #Patriots LT Nate Solder, source said. They get their franchise left tackle. Huge get.
Nate is a top 11 (mostly top 10) tackle for his last 5 years in PFF run blocking and PFF pass blocking. His Pass Blocking dropped a touch in 2017, but was way better his previous 6 years. His run blocking was top 12 last year, and top 10 the previous 6.
Stop for anyone overeacting to the $, it means zip. We have 90+m cap room the next 2 years. We'll extend OBJ and Collins and still have 50+m to play with BEFORE we release a qb after 2018 who makes 20m.
This signing is a massive win and beyond needed. He is 10x that of Eric Flowers.
It is not a "massive win" and may end up being a massive lose. It's a sign of a desperate team that has to over-pay for players never secured in the Draft. We now have a history of doing that and it's no recipe for long term success.
positional rankings in football as something to take seriously.
It's a team sport. Maybe there are a few positions where rankings might hold more water than others.
How can you accurately "rank" a tackle in football? The only thing he totally owns personally is number of penalties committed.
What about blocking scheme? What about how often a tackle is helped out with backs and receivers? What about playing next to a shitty guard or on a bad OL in general? What about blocking for a QB who holds on to the ball too long? How do rankings account for such things outside of a player's control?
Nate Solder is a quality football player who started at LT for the best team in the NFL during his time there and just played in the Super Bowl. I'm pretty sure he will be a huge upgrade for our OL group which has been a running joke in the NFL going on 5 years now.
The highest paid linemen in the league and highest drafted guard I can recall is a massive investment for an OLine that would still require lots of work. You can draft good guards at value later in the draft.
Darnold or Barkley are the obvious choices here.
Reese couldn't. Couldn't draft them high either. Let's hope Gettleman can and does.
who is scared shitless by this signing. Solder seems like he's always nursing an injury and yeah, he didn't miss any games this past season... during a contract year. And generally he has been fine as far as making it through a season goes but I don't know. The guy seems like a ticking time bomb, more so than most players. He probably won't be as likely at 30+ years old to will himself through injuries now that he has a fat contract.
+1.
Lots of $$$ for a 30/31 y.o. LT who has dings and a child with a major health issue.
$15M already seems overpay, but if he helps keep a DE off Eli/ our QB so our big 3-5 complete routes and pops holes for our RBs, maybe even turn Perkins into an NFLer, he's a bargain.
So. Its EF at RT,RG, or the bench ( doubt adios).Hope they turn him into an allPro RG.
I'm glad they have him if the reports are true and that they're actually doing something to try and fix the line. I just hope the guy stays healthy and that it's structured in a way that they can bail in a couple of years if he's not working out.
Solder is not an all pro like Norwell, but LT is the second most important position on offense after QB, and he's a good one.
I like the additions thus far, all of them. They are all adults! Some of have said the team needed to get younger. I don't think so. The Giants were already pretty young across the roster. They need leaders and good teammates.
It also really depends on how the giants view Webb, if they view him as a guy who can take over they can go with Nelson, if not you almost have to go with a qb...
I hope they trade down and get beast available player and try to get a haul of picks from a team desperate..
Remember when lavar Arrington signed 5 year 54million, it was essentially a 1 year deal...
35m guaranteed. I highly doubt that's all roster bonuses. We're committing to all 4 years here.
I am not saying it is a 1 year deal but what was Vernon first year cap hit
How do you think eagles keep signing people when they are right against the cap?
Stop worrying about the cap, teams know how to work the cap and giants have 1 of the best in the business
EXACTLY! Who the hell cares how much money the team spends?? Its not as if the Giants have a history of being cap strapped and unable to manuver like they need to, financially speaking. That should tell you they know what they're doing when it comes to money. Don't worry about it. If Solder has a good season none of you will care about the money. Because we're all fickle as f.
are expecting a complete roster overhaul, they will look at almost anything less as a half-assed approach.
I've been saying this for awhile now, but there are no more lengthy rebuilds in the NFL anymore. With the cap - you only have windows to work in - and in those windows, you try to shore up areas of weakness, add depth when possible and hope injuries don't wipe out all of that work.
Each team basically does a derivative of that - which is why failing at a position or positions hurts so much.
As far as this franchise is concerned, we did a house cleaning. New GM. New coach. New coordinators. And the changes are still coming. That's about as much of an overhaul as one can reasonably expect.
Remember when lavar Arrington signed 5 year 54million, it was essentially a 1 year deal...
35m guaranteed. I highly doubt that's all roster bonuses. We're committing to all 4 years here.
No they aren't.
A good portion will be a SB, but they probably had to guarantee salary for years 1 and 2.
Assume a $25M SB and $10M in guaranteed salary in years 1 and 2. Over 4 years, that is a prorated SB of just over $6M per. After year two, there is only about $12M left. The Giants could probably cut him after year 2 with little to no cap hit. If he lasts 3 years, they would likely have little in the way of a cap hit when cut.
RE: RE: RE: Highest paid position is all agent talk
Remember when lavar Arrington signed 5 year 54million, it was essentially a 1 year deal...
35m guaranteed. I highly doubt that's all roster bonuses. We're committing to all 4 years here.
I am not saying it is a 1 year deal but what was Vernon first year cap hit
How do you think eagles keep signing people when they are right against the cap?
Stop worrying about the cap, teams know how to work the cap and giants have 1 of the best in the business
I understand the cap plenty, it's fluid but there are restrictions. I don't think we're close enough to be making roster decisions just for the next year or two. It's precisely why I don't like this deal, we will start to regret it when we should theoretically be in position to actually compete and be able to use that money. Giving into our lack of leverage and committing to a very dangerous contract is clear indicator on where our priorities lie. It's one that I don't agree with it.
I'm not going to continue to piss on everybody's cornflakes so I'll leave it at that. I don't bitch about every deal, but this one is a little unsettling to me.
stuck with manning for another year maybe two. bad move.
Not true at all. If the Giants are going to invest in a QB with the 2nd pick they will obviously want to protect the kid. I don't think this has anything to do with Eli's future. Norwell was clearly Plan A with Solder being the fallback option.
Seriously. How do they get out of this mess? They don't have an o-line either all of a sudden. Only tackle is Waddle. I know they went all in this year but they failed spectacularly to the damn Eagles.
Remember when lavar Arrington signed 5 year 54million, it was essentially a 1 year deal...
35m guaranteed. I highly doubt that's all roster bonuses. We're committing to all 4 years here.
No they aren't.
A good portion will be a SB, but they probably had to guarantee salary for years 1 and 2.
Assume a $25M SB and $10M in guaranteed salary in years 1 and 2. Over 4 years, that is a prorated SB of just over $6M per. After year two, there is only about $12M left. The Giants could probably cut him after year 2 with little to no cap hit. If he lasts 3 years, they would likely have little in the way of a cap hit when cut.
Thank Rich. I really appreciate your posts on cap hits and contracts. Good stuff.
are expecting a complete roster overhaul, they will look at almost anything less as a half-assed approach.
I've been saying this for awhile now, but there are no more lengthy rebuilds in the NFL anymore. With the cap - you only have windows to work in - and in those windows, you try to shore up areas of weakness, add depth when possible and hope injuries don't wipe out all of that work.
Each team basically does a derivative of that - which is why failing at a position or positions hurts so much.
As far as this franchise is concerned, we did a house cleaning. New GM. New coach. New coordinators. And the changes are still coming. That's about as much of an overhaul as one can reasonably expect.
I'm assuming you're excluding the Browns (and a few other teams as well) from your belief that "there are no more lengthy rebuilds in the NFL anymore."
The cap keeps rising, Eli all most likely be gone after this year or best so you are talking a qb on a rookie deal and giants still coujld cut Marshall and Harris to create more room if need be..
"No free agent wants to come to the Giants"
"Our line is doomed"
"Team will be lucky to win six games next year"
"Our new GM is worthless"
Sign Solder:
"He's overpaid"
"He wasn't that good"
"Our new GM was taken to the cleaners by Solder's agent"
"This is just like when Reese signed Vernon"
"Our new GM is worthless"
If little Bill thought Solder was good enough to protect Brady's blind side that's good enough for me. And the Giants were always going to have to pay top dollar for his services b/c of Reese's horrible OL drafting.
RE: RE: RE: Highest paid position is all agent talk
Remember when lavar Arrington signed 5 year 54million, it was essentially a 1 year deal...
35m guaranteed. I highly doubt that's all roster bonuses. We're committing to all 4 years here.
No they aren't.
A good portion will be a SB, but they probably had to guarantee salary for years 1 and 2.
Assume a $25M SB and $10M in guaranteed salary in years 1 and 2. Over 4 years, that is a prorated SB of just over $6M per. After year two, there is only about $12M left. The Giants could probably cut him after year 2 with little to no cap hit. If he lasts 3 years, they would likely have little in the way of a cap hit when cut.
That's 12.5 million in dead money year 3 the way you have that outlined. 6+ million in dead money isn't something sneeze at either on the final year. Unless it's a really wonky structure, they're committing to him. You can still like the signing but that much is undeniable.
You want the team to get better but you expect it to happen by pinching pennies.
Could not agree more. If they had not signed him they would have said you give him a million more to fix the line. Do what you have to. You can never win. This is a solid signing. This makes me think that in order to OBJ and Collins signed next year either JPP or Vernon has to go. I am guessing DE will be looked at strongly this draft.
We're not out of options. I hope this works out, but that's a ridiculous contract for a guy who is a "solid" left tackle.
The other option is you don't pay that contract, move on from Eli, and rebuild the team.
This whole thing feels like a half-ass approach again.
We're starting to feel like the Knicks.
Yep... my sentiments exactly!
I view it the opposite way.
The Giants need a functional OL, regardless of who is QB. With a legit at least league average- likely more- LT and a big powerful RT (Flowers), the OL is well on its way to being MUCH better. Draft at least on interior OL with another OG in FA, and this is a decent, maybe not exciting, OL- which is a VAST improvement over the last several years.
Further, this really is not a long term deal. The Giants appear to believe that Wheeler has long-term potential. As such, you get a guy who can teach him the ropes while the young guy learns. When young guy is ready, old guy leaves (likely in 2 years).
Draft a GREAT RB in Barkley and get the OL discussed above- and the focus can shift to defense. Keep in mind that the Eagles were 7-9 two years in a row before winning the Super Bowl. Don't discount luck, health and a little talent as being major game changers.
stuck with manning for another year maybe two. bad move.
Not true at all. If the Giants are going to invest in a QB with the 2nd pick they will obviously want to protect the kid. I don't think this has anything to do with Eli's future. Norwell was clearly Plan A with Solder being the fallback option.
The #Giants are signing LT Nate Solder to a 4-year deal worth $62M, source said, with $35M guaranteed. The highest paid OL in the NFL. 💰💰💰
OOF! That's a big enchalada to swallow every year.
But that's the price you pay for years of bad drafts and FA signings.
That's not really fair - if Flowers had turned out to be a very good LT, that's pretty much what they'd have had to pay him, too. That's just what a FA LT costs, whether it's your own FA or someone else's. Unless you're going to draft a new LT every 4-5 years, you end up having to commit some significant dollars to the position at some point.
In addition to his physical traits that were vital to the Pats offensive success, @soldernate provided 6 8 and 320 pounds (and more) worth of character and leadership. A big loss, on and off the field. Best to him and his family.
We're not out of options. I hope this works out, but that's a ridiculous contract for a guy who is a "solid" left tackle.
The other option is you don't pay that contract, move on from Eli, and rebuild the team.
This whole thing feels like a half-ass approach again.
We're starting to feel like the Knicks.
I would have been fine with the total tear down you are advocating. But DG and Shurmur want to keep Eli for another two years while they develop another QB, either Webb or a draft pick. That necessitates finding and overpaying for a LT. As I said, I think the contract is too much, but understand why they did it.
Stop for anyone overeacting to the $, it means zip. We have 90+m cap room the next 2 years. We'll extend OBJ and Collins and still have 50+m to play with BEFORE we release a qb after 2018 who makes 20m.
This signing is a massive win and beyond needed. He is 10x that of Eric Flowers.
It is not a "massive win" and may end up being a massive lose. It's a sign of a desperate team that has to over-pay for players never secured in the Draft. We now have a history of doing that and it's no recipe for long term success.
It's a team sport. Maybe there are a few positions where rankings might hold more water than others.
How can you accurately "rank" a tackle in football? The only thing he totally owns personally is number of penalties committed.
What about blocking scheme? What about how often a tackle is helped out with backs and receivers? What about playing next to a shitty guard or on a bad OL in general? What about blocking for a QB who holds on to the ball too long? How do rankings account for such things outside of a player's control?
Nate Solder is a quality football player who started at LT for the best team in the NFL during his time there and just played in the Super Bowl. I'm pretty sure he will be a huge upgrade for our OL group which has been a running joke in the NFL going on 5 years now.
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It means nothing...
Remember when lavar Arrington signed 5 year 54million, it was essentially a 1 year deal...
35m guaranteed. I highly doubt that's all roster bonuses. We're committing to all 4 years here.
I am not saying it is a 1 year deal but what was Vernon first year cap hit
How do you think eagles keep signing people when they are right against the cap?
Stop worrying about the cap, teams know how to work the cap and giants have 1 of the best in the business
Darnold or Barkley are the obvious choices here.
Reese couldn't. Couldn't draft them high either. Let's hope Gettleman can and does.
+1.
Lots of $$$ for a 30/31 y.o. LT who has dings and a child with a major health issue.
$15M already seems overpay, but if he helps keep a DE off Eli/ our QB so our big 3-5 complete routes and pops holes for our RBs, maybe even turn Perkins into an NFLer, he's a bargain.
So. Its EF at RT,RG, or the bench ( doubt adios).Hope they turn him into an allPro RG.
I'm glad they have him if the reports are true and that they're actually doing something to try and fix the line. I just hope the guy stays healthy and that it's structured in a way that they can bail in a couple of years if he's not working out.
The other option is you don't pay that contract, move on from Eli, and rebuild the team.
This whole thing feels like a half-ass approach again.
We're starting to feel like the Knicks.
Then Flowers becomes the swing tackle, not Wheeler.
I think this is a real possibility. Maybe not probable, but possible.
Except in SB 42:)
I like the additions thus far, all of them. They are all adults! Some of have said the team needed to get younger. I don't think so. The Giants were already pretty young across the roster. They need leaders and good teammates.
The other option is you don't pay that contract, move on from Eli, and rebuild the team.
This whole thing feels like a half-ass approach again.
We're starting to feel like the Knicks.
Yep... my sentiments exactly!
It also really depends on how the giants view Webb, if they view him as a guy who can take over they can go with Nelson, if not you almost have to go with a qb...
I hope they trade down and get beast available player and try to get a haul of picks from a team desperate..
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It means nothing...
Remember when lavar Arrington signed 5 year 54million, it was essentially a 1 year deal...
35m guaranteed. I highly doubt that's all roster bonuses. We're committing to all 4 years here.
I am not saying it is a 1 year deal but what was Vernon first year cap hit
How do you think eagles keep signing people when they are right against the cap?
Stop worrying about the cap, teams know how to work the cap and giants have 1 of the best in the business
EXACTLY! Who the hell cares how much money the team spends?? Its not as if the Giants have a history of being cap strapped and unable to manuver like they need to, financially speaking. That should tell you they know what they're doing when it comes to money. Don't worry about it. If Solder has a good season none of you will care about the money. Because we're all fickle as f.
Giants sign one of the better LTs
We paid too much
I've been saying this for awhile now, but there are no more lengthy rebuilds in the NFL anymore. With the cap - you only have windows to work in - and in those windows, you try to shore up areas of weakness, add depth when possible and hope injuries don't wipe out all of that work.
Each team basically does a derivative of that - which is why failing at a position or positions hurts so much.
As far as this franchise is concerned, we did a house cleaning. New GM. New coach. New coordinators. And the changes are still coming. That's about as much of an overhaul as one can reasonably expect.
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It means nothing...
Remember when lavar Arrington signed 5 year 54million, it was essentially a 1 year deal...
35m guaranteed. I highly doubt that's all roster bonuses. We're committing to all 4 years here.
No they aren't.
A good portion will be a SB, but they probably had to guarantee salary for years 1 and 2.
Assume a $25M SB and $10M in guaranteed salary in years 1 and 2. Over 4 years, that is a prorated SB of just over $6M per. After year two, there is only about $12M left. The Giants could probably cut him after year 2 with little to no cap hit. If he lasts 3 years, they would likely have little in the way of a cap hit when cut.
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In comment 13864499 nygiants16 said:
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It means nothing...
Remember when lavar Arrington signed 5 year 54million, it was essentially a 1 year deal...
35m guaranteed. I highly doubt that's all roster bonuses. We're committing to all 4 years here.
I am not saying it is a 1 year deal but what was Vernon first year cap hit
How do you think eagles keep signing people when they are right against the cap?
Stop worrying about the cap, teams know how to work the cap and giants have 1 of the best in the business
I understand the cap plenty, it's fluid but there are restrictions. I don't think we're close enough to be making roster decisions just for the next year or two. It's precisely why I don't like this deal, we will start to regret it when we should theoretically be in position to actually compete and be able to use that money. Giving into our lack of leverage and committing to a very dangerous contract is clear indicator on where our priorities lie. It's one that I don't agree with it.
I'm not going to continue to piss on everybody's cornflakes so I'll leave it at that. I don't bitch about every deal, but this one is a little unsettling to me.
with this post, we are stuck with your idiocy for another day. bad move.
Fucking troll.
sundayatone : 11:33 am : link : reply
stuck with manning for another year maybe two. bad move.
Are we going to be entertained with more "cult of eli" responses now???
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stuck with manning for another year maybe two. bad move.
with this post, we are stuck with your idiocy for another day. bad move.
funny,well played.
Not true at all. If the Giants are going to invest in a QB with the 2nd pick they will obviously want to protect the kid. I don't think this has anything to do with Eli's future. Norwell was clearly Plan A with Solder being the fallback option.
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We're not out of options. I hope this works out, but that's a ridiculous contract for a guy who is a "solid" left tackle.
The other option is you don't pay that contract, move on from Eli, and rebuild the team.
This whole thing feels like a half-ass approach again.
We're starting to feel like the Knicks.
Yep... my sentiments exactly!
All this
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Butler, Amendola, Lewis, and now Solder...
Seriously. How do they get out of this mess? They don't have an o-line either all of a sudden. Only tackle is Waddle. I know they went all in this year but they failed spectacularly to the damn Eagles.
I'd like to hear how the Pats move on...
Time to get a new angle.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.
DRAFT a franchise QB.
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Now trade back to 6th get Nelson and then grab Hernandez in the 2nd and this line is fixed
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.
DRAFT a franchise QB.
Get Barkley and then Hernandez without trading back
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It means nothing...
Remember when lavar Arrington signed 5 year 54million, it was essentially a 1 year deal...
35m guaranteed. I highly doubt that's all roster bonuses. We're committing to all 4 years here.
No they aren't.
A good portion will be a SB, but they probably had to guarantee salary for years 1 and 2.
Assume a $25M SB and $10M in guaranteed salary in years 1 and 2. Over 4 years, that is a prorated SB of just over $6M per. After year two, there is only about $12M left. The Giants could probably cut him after year 2 with little to no cap hit. If he lasts 3 years, they would likely have little in the way of a cap hit when cut.
Thank Rich. I really appreciate your posts on cap hits and contracts. Good stuff.
Engineering humor there.......
Yeah, he's definitely quite the iron man.
Fucking troll.
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with this move we are
sundayatone : 11:33 am : link : reply
stuck with manning for another year maybe two. bad move.
Are we going to be entertained with more "cult of eli" responses now???
elis play will hold the off back,hope i am wrong but i doubt it chubby.
I've been saying this for awhile now, but there are no more lengthy rebuilds in the NFL anymore. With the cap - you only have windows to work in - and in those windows, you try to shore up areas of weakness, add depth when possible and hope injuries don't wipe out all of that work.
Each team basically does a derivative of that - which is why failing at a position or positions hurts so much.
As far as this franchise is concerned, we did a house cleaning. New GM. New coach. New coordinators. And the changes are still coming. That's about as much of an overhaul as one can reasonably expect.
I'm assuming you're excluding the Browns (and a few other teams as well) from your belief that "there are no more lengthy rebuilds in the NFL anymore."
"No free agent wants to come to the Giants"
"Our line is doomed"
"Team will be lucky to win six games next year"
"Our new GM is worthless"
Sign Solder:
"He's overpaid"
"He wasn't that good"
"Our new GM was taken to the cleaners by Solder's agent"
"This is just like when Reese signed Vernon"
"Our new GM is worthless"
If little Bill thought Solder was good enough to protect Brady's blind side that's good enough for me. And the Giants were always going to have to pay top dollar for his services b/c of Reese's horrible OL drafting.
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It means nothing...
Remember when lavar Arrington signed 5 year 54million, it was essentially a 1 year deal...
35m guaranteed. I highly doubt that's all roster bonuses. We're committing to all 4 years here.
No they aren't.
A good portion will be a SB, but they probably had to guarantee salary for years 1 and 2.
Assume a $25M SB and $10M in guaranteed salary in years 1 and 2. Over 4 years, that is a prorated SB of just over $6M per. After year two, there is only about $12M left. The Giants could probably cut him after year 2 with little to no cap hit. If he lasts 3 years, they would likely have little in the way of a cap hit when cut.
That's 12.5 million in dead money year 3 the way you have that outlined. 6+ million in dead money isn't something sneeze at either on the final year. Unless it's a really wonky structure, they're committing to him. You can still like the signing but that much is undeniable.
Think back last year, Whitworth at 36 signed a 3-36M with 15M guaranteed.
Solder is 6 years younger
You want the team to get better but you expect it to happen by pinching pennies.
Could not agree more. If they had not signed him they would have said you give him a million more to fix the line. Do what you have to. You can never win. This is a solid signing. This makes me think that in order to OBJ and Collins signed next year either JPP or Vernon has to go. I am guessing DE will be looked at strongly this draft.
Jerry
Harris
Armstrong
Marshall
Would free up another $11M+
Wouldnt surprise me to see some salary-to-bonus conversion on Jenkins and Snacks, too.
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We're not out of options. I hope this works out, but that's a ridiculous contract for a guy who is a "solid" left tackle.
The other option is you don't pay that contract, move on from Eli, and rebuild the team.
This whole thing feels like a half-ass approach again.
We're starting to feel like the Knicks.
Yep... my sentiments exactly!
I view it the opposite way.
The Giants need a functional OL, regardless of who is QB. With a legit at least league average- likely more- LT and a big powerful RT (Flowers), the OL is well on its way to being MUCH better. Draft at least on interior OL with another OG in FA, and this is a decent, maybe not exciting, OL- which is a VAST improvement over the last several years.
Further, this really is not a long term deal. The Giants appear to believe that Wheeler has long-term potential. As such, you get a guy who can teach him the ropes while the young guy learns. When young guy is ready, old guy leaves (likely in 2 years).
Draft a GREAT RB in Barkley and get the OL discussed above- and the focus can shift to defense. Keep in mind that the Eagles were 7-9 two years in a row before winning the Super Bowl. Don't discount luck, health and a little talent as being major game changers.
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stuck with manning for another year maybe two. bad move.
Not true at all. If the Giants are going to invest in a QB with the 2nd pick they will obviously want to protect the kid. I don't think this has anything to do with Eli's future. Norwell was clearly Plan A with Solder being the fallback option.
good points
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The #Giants are signing LT Nate Solder to a 4-year deal worth $62M, source said, with $35M guaranteed. The highest paid OL in the NFL. 💰💰💰
OOF! That's a big enchalada to swallow every year.
But that's the price you pay for years of bad drafts and FA signings.
That's not really fair - if Flowers had turned out to be a very good LT, that's pretty much what they'd have had to pay him, too. That's just what a FA LT costs, whether it's your own FA or someone else's. Unless you're going to draft a new LT every 4-5 years, you end up having to commit some significant dollars to the position at some point.
In addition to his physical traits that were vital to the Pats offensive success, @soldernate provided 6 8 and 320 pounds (and more) worth of character and leadership. A big loss, on and off the field. Best to him and his family.
The other option is you don't pay that contract, move on from Eli, and rebuild the team.
This whole thing feels like a half-ass approach again.
We're starting to feel like the Knicks.
I would have been fine with the total tear down you are advocating. But DG and Shurmur want to keep Eli for another two years while they develop another QB, either Webb or a draft pick. That necessitates finding and overpaying for a LT. As I said, I think the contract is too much, but understand why they did it.
Think back last year, Whitworth at 36 signed a 3-36M with 15M guaranteed.
Solder is 6 years younger
Sad Face :(
So you wouldn't want your rookie high draft pick to have a good left tackle to protect him?
Next day: 'Eh. Nothing special. I wish I could have gotten someone else.'