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Asshat Info: Bills and Giants about to make massive trade

DaddyM89 : 3/14/2018 12:59 pm
for #2 pick. Just got a text from someone I trust. Take it for what its worth. Should be breaking next few hours.
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I wonder if his source  
CMicks3110 : 3/14/2018 8:59 pm : link
is speaking about trade talks, but perhaps this type of trade is not announced until draft day, and assumes a certain player is there at 2
it makes little sense to execute the trade now  
CMicks3110 : 3/14/2018 8:59 pm : link
if, lets say they want Rosen, and Rosen is picked 1.
One man thrill ride = Dave in dc  
Diversify yo bonds : 3/14/2018 9:06 pm : link
New bipolar meds
As stated, there's no reason to do a trade now  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/14/2018 9:08 pm : link
until you see what's available when you're on the clock.

Unless you get a stupid offer because someone gets desperate and nervous.
RE: One man thrill ride = Dave in dc  
arcarsenal : 3/14/2018 9:09 pm : link
In comment 13866339 Diversify yo bonds said:
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New bipolar meds


Now we get to figure out who you were... since Dave was gone long before 2016. :)
Sorry, I can't take anyone seriously who refers  
Bill in UT : 3/14/2018 9:15 pm : link
to himself in third-person
RE: Sorry, I can't take anyone seriously who refers  
montanagiant : 3/14/2018 9:25 pm : link
In comment 13866374 Bill in UT said:
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to himself in third-person

Montanagiant agress with you
.  
arcarsenal : 3/14/2018 9:30 pm : link
Jimmy doesn't like misunderstanding.

In fact, Jimmy and misunderstanding... sorta clash.

checking back in  
DaddyM89 : 3/14/2018 9:45 pm : link
know I said a few hours. Just texted my contact before and he wrote back "patience." If nothing happens by early tomorrow, I will admit defeat regardless of if it happens or not in the future.
RE: This was fun but killed my work today  
baadbill : 3/14/2018 9:48 pm : link
In comment 13866234 Giantimistic said:
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I am not proud of it but I did not accomplish what I needed at work today because of this thread. I will be up late doing work now and will need to show some more restraint but its been fun.

If the rumor is true or not the discussion on the possibilities of the trade were very interesting a plausible and may still be something we see. Maybe the giants have been reading this today and will decide to do the trade now :).


haha... too funny... wtf are you doing playing on the internet at work anyway? lol
RE: checking back in  
GFAN52 : 3/14/2018 9:59 pm : link
In comment 13866478 DaddyM89 said:
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know I said a few hours. Just texted my contact before and he wrote back "patience." If nothing happens by early tomorrow, I will admit defeat regardless of if it happens or not in the future.


Thanks for the update.
RE: checking back in  
bceagle05 : 3/14/2018 10:30 pm : link
In comment 13866478 DaddyM89 said:
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know I said a few hours. Just texted my contact before and he wrote back "patience." If nothing happens by early tomorrow, I will admit defeat regardless of if it happens or not in the future.


Don't sweat it too much, most of us appreciate the info. We know you're not just being a troll.
The Giants would need a kings ransom  
blueblood : 3/14/2018 10:53 pm : link
I wouldnt settle for less than..

No. 12 (1st, via CIN)
No. 22 (1st, via KC)
No. 53 (2nd)
No. 56 (2nd via LAR)
No. 65 (3rd, via CLE)

That would give the Giants 2 #1's, 3 #2's and 2 #3's..

That I would do.. and nothing less.. and would even push for a #1 or #2 next year...


If the Bills are trying to jump from 12 to 2, it would have to be  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/14/2018 10:57 pm : link
some completely wild trade. Don't sell a gold bar for half price just to get a handful of bronze
blueblood  
DaddyM89 : 3/14/2018 11:08 pm : link
think their first next year would have to be included in any deal they do. gives them valuable ammo to move up next year if need be for a franchise QB. Although next years QB looks very weak at this point.
DaddyM  
CMicks3110 : 3/14/2018 11:14 pm : link
How much do you trust your source?
cmicks  
DaddyM89 : 3/14/2018 11:26 pm : link
pretty confident. He has been right about other things in the past with other free agents. See no reason why he would have made it up.
WELL  
CMicks3110 : 3/14/2018 11:28 pm : link
it's pretty clear Buffalo is going to try to move up, and I could see why they would want to go to 2 since they wouldn't want anyone to jump in front of them. Still believe if your source is right, that it might be agreed in prinicple now, but wouldn't be consumated until draft day
Itís very difficult to predict draft trades  
SJGiant : 3/14/2018 11:57 pm : link
this early before the draft. I donít remember how early last year the eagles made their trades to move up to number 2. I would think it happens closer to the draft.
also just a heads up  
DaddyM89 : 3/15/2018 12:12 am : link
ill be tied up in meetings all morning tomorrow probably wont be back on until 1PM or so. Don't want people to think I abandoned ship if they don't hear from me for a bit.
RE: also just a heads up  
JayBinQueens : 3/15/2018 12:15 am : link
In comment 13866717 DaddyM89 said:
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ill be tied up in meetings all morning tomorrow probably wont be back on until 1PM or so. Don't want people to think I abandoned ship if they don't hear from me for a bit.

Appreciate any info. Thanks for the hope. Look forward to you being right, or the update tomorrow
RE: WELL  
bradshaw44 : 3/15/2018 12:17 am : link
In comment 13866676 CMicks3110 said:
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it's pretty clear Buffalo is going to try to move up, and I could see why they would want to go to 2 since they wouldn't want anyone to jump in front of them. Still believe if your source is right, that it might be agreed in prinicple now, but wouldn't be consumated until draft day


This thought crossed my mind as well.
I just wanted to add  
Mike from SI : 3/15/2018 1:18 am : link
That this thread kept me very entertained all day. Great job, everyone.
Wait, you mean DaddyM89 actually has a life  
Brown Recluse : 3/15/2018 7:18 am : link
and a job that he does actual work in, maknig it dificult to babysit this thread for you all?

Wow! :)
should be interesting if comes to fruition  
micky : 3/15/2018 9:16 am : link
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Asshat Info: Falcons and Giants about to make massive trade  
Bramton1 : 3/15/2018 9:25 am : link
for #256 pick. Just got a text from someone I trust. Take it for what its worth. Should be breaking next few hours.
RE: RE: One man thrill ride definitely is making some good points  
Sonic Youth : 3/15/2018 9:25 am : link
In comment 13866092 One Man Thrill Ride said:
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In comment 13866081 NoGainDayne said:


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but i'd have much more respect if his writing style wasn't frat troll.

There is one thing that is being ignored in his list of options though. Things get leaked all the time before they happen or that will never happen. Not as simple as betraying a friend or non-story.



The writing staff prefers the term Frat Garbage in Iambic Pentameter

LarmarTRX and Daddy, the name "NoGainDayne" is a playful reference to a running back from the early 2000s named Ron Dayne. Despite being the 11th overall pick in 2000 (Thrill's 10th season on BBI), he often struggled to gain yardage (career ypc 3.8). According to Sonic Youth -- a name that refers to his knack for saying words out loud to himself before he clicks 'submit' - "Dayne" and "Gain" are two words that rhyme, thus completing the satirical circle.

Hope this adds to the thread.


Sonic Youth is a band
Also  
Sonic Youth : 3/15/2018 9:27 am : link
No GM is making decisions based off BBI threads for fucks sake. If anything they'd be prompted to check their own sources for more smoke and act off that
RE: RE: WELL  
AcidTest : 3/15/2018 9:40 am : link
In comment 13866720 bradshaw44 said:
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In comment 13866676 CMicks3110 said:


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it's pretty clear Buffalo is going to try to move up, and I could see why they would want to go to 2 since they wouldn't want anyone to jump in front of them. Still believe if your source is right, that it might be agreed in prinicple now, but wouldn't be consumated until draft day



This thought crossed my mind as well.


+2.
I mentioned earlier in the thread using the draft value chart  
Matt in SGS : 3/15/2018 9:58 am : link
which, yes teams do still use or some variation of it.

For the #2 pick, to trade out of that spot, the Giants aren't looking for an even trade or a fair trade. That stuff can happen when swapping around 4th or 5th round picks.

For the #2 pick, any team will have to basically blow the doors off to get the Giants attention.

I don't doubt that teams are approaching the Giants about a trade. And it would make sense that the Bills will be talking to every team in the top 5 to get their QB, with the Giants being an obvious target.

However, while I think it would be strange for a team to execute a trade like this before the individual workouts are completed, when I looked back, the infamous RG III trade took place on March 12, 2012, just before the start of the league year.

So it wouldn't be out of the realm for a large similar trade (which is what this would be the equivalent) as the Redskins traded up to the #2 pick from the Rams, but they had #6 overall. The Bills have more work to do to make this happen.
true about the RGIII trade Matt, BUT, 1 variable is missing:  
Victor in CT : 3/15/2018 10:07 am : link
lil Danny Snyder. The greater (GREATEST) fool theory was in force there :-)

I'm sure teams are asking, but I'd be surprised if any trades in the top 5 happen before draft day.
RE: RE: RE: One man thrill ride definitely is making some good points  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/15/2018 10:20 am : link
In comment 13866941 Sonic Youth said:
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In comment 13866092 One Man Thrill Ride said:


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In comment 13866081 NoGainDayne said:


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but i'd have much more respect if his writing style wasn't frat troll.

There is one thing that is being ignored in his list of options though. Things get leaked all the time before they happen or that will never happen. Not as simple as betraying a friend or non-story.



The writing staff prefers the term Frat Garbage in Iambic Pentameter

LarmarTRX and Daddy, the name "NoGainDayne" is a playful reference to a running back from the early 2000s named Ron Dayne. Despite being the 11th overall pick in 2000 (Thrill's 10th season on BBI), he often struggled to gain yardage (career ypc 3.8). According to Sonic Youth -- a name that refers to his knack for saying words out loud to himself before he clicks 'submit' - "Dayne" and "Gain" are two words that rhyme, thus completing the satirical circle.

Hope this adds to the thread.



Sonic Youth is a band

RE: I mentioned earlier in the thread using the draft value chart  
Section331 : 3/15/2018 10:32 am : link
In comment 13867001 Matt in SGS said:
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For the #2 pick, any team will have to basically blow the doors off to get the Giants attention.


Exactly. The drop from 2 to 12 is too steep to be made up by lower draft picks. I wouldn't go any lower than 6.
RE: true about the RGIII trade Matt, BUT, 1 variable is missing:  
MojoEd : 3/15/2018 10:32 am : link
In comment 13867027 Victor in CT said:
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lil Danny Snyder. The greater (GREATEST) fool theory was in force there :-)

I'm sure teams are asking, but I'd be surprised if any trades in the top 5 happen before draft day.


Snyder may be a fool, but have to remember that Mike Holgren at the time was running the Browns and whined that he would have beaten the 'Skins offer if the Rams had given them the chance. Rams told teams to make their best offers; 'Skins offered more than the Browns; and the Rams stuck to the proposal and would not listen to Browns' increased bid. [I am also old enough to remember that there were a heck of a lot of personnel men and sports writers who took the position that Leaf was a better prospect than Manning based on his upside potential being far greater.]
And with regard to the redskins trade if RG3  
bhill410 : 3/15/2018 10:56 am : link
Never got hurt and continued to play like his rookie season that would have been a trade everyone would sign up for in a second. Remember how annoyed bbi was at the browns after the redskins beat us that year. We thought for sure that we would be second place to rg3 for the next decade. Football is a crazy sport man.
How about  
muhajir : 3/15/2018 1:37 pm : link
a trade down, and grabbing Jackson in the middle of the first, then using the rest of the picks to stock up on talent.
RE: How about  
GFAN52 : 3/15/2018 1:39 pm : link
In comment 13867661 muhajir said:
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a trade down, and grabbing Jackson in the middle of the first, then using the rest of the picks to stock up on talent.


Trade down for Jackson? How about no.
So shall we declare this rumor dead?  
LarmerTJR : 3/15/2018 4:04 pm : link
I mean it could be a wait until draft day deal, but still.
If DM89 turns out to be correct  
VTDAD : 3/15/2018 4:27 pm : link
All BBI'ers should assume the position:

Let the thread go to the archives  
montanagiant : 3/15/2018 4:43 pm : link
So Daddy can throw it in the face of BBI if it comes true
Well?  
jeff57 : 3/15/2018 4:54 pm : link
..
RE: Let the thread go to the archives  
Milton : 3/15/2018 4:55 pm : link
In comment 13868048 montanagiant said:
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So Daddy can throw it in the face of BBI if it comes true
It's already too late for it to be true.
The issue is the logic that it could have happened  
hitdog42 : 3/15/2018 5:13 pm : link
Before people saw workouts of the quarterbacks and other top prospects at top of draft

Why would any team trade the option of being blown away at a workout?
RE: RE: Let the thread go to the archives  
montanagiant : 3/15/2018 5:18 pm : link
In comment 13868063 Milton said:
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In comment 13868048 montanagiant said:


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So Daddy can throw it in the face of BBI if it comes true

It's already too late for it to be true.

One aspect may be wrong but the most important aspect is still viable which is the trade itself
RE: RE: RE: Let the thread go to the archives  
Milton : 3/15/2018 6:02 pm : link
In comment 13868106 montanagiant said:
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In comment 13868063 Milton said:


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In comment 13868048 montanagiant said:


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So Daddy can throw it in the face of BBI if it comes true

It's already too late for it to be true.


One aspect may be wrong but the most important aspect is still viable which is the trade itself
At what point is it just a prediction?
Milton  
montanagiant : 3/15/2018 7:08 pm : link
Does it really bother you that much?
At what point is it just a rumor?  
Bill2 : 3/15/2018 7:25 pm : link
Right up until the second it happens

At what point is it a prediction?

Right afterwards when someone claims luck was wisdom
Milton  
Bill2 : 3/15/2018 7:26 pm : link
Just playing.

Hope you are well
RE: Milton  
Milton : 3/15/2018 7:32 pm : link
In comment 13868246 montanagiant said:
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Does it really bother you that much?
Not really, although I am in the camp that would only want a trade down if Rosen went #1 to the Browns. So if Rosen goes number one and the Giants follow up by trading down with Buffalo for a boatload of picks, does DaddyM get credit for inside info?
RE: Milton  
Milton : 3/15/2018 7:42 pm : link
In comment 13868271 Bill2 said:
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Just playing.

Hope you are well
I'm well, thanks, hope you are, too.

p.s.--I don't think DaddyM's pulling anyone's leg and I think he truly believes he has (or had) a scoop, but in fairness to asshats past, present, and future, I think you only get credit if you deliver on your claim (and DaddyM's claim was that it would be announced in "a few hours"). Short of that it comes under the heading of educated guess (even if it was sincere).
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