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Asshat Info: Bills and Giants about to make massive trade

DaddyM89 : 3/14/2018 12:59 pm
for #2 pick. Just got a text from someone I trust. Take it for what its worth. Should be breaking next few hours.
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When the igglets moved up in 2016 from #8 to #2 for Wentz...  
Torrag : 3/14/2018 3:36 pm : link
...they also got a 2017 fourth rounder in return.

...the cost was substantial, listed here in chronological order

...#8 overall
2016 3rd rounder(#77 overall)
2016 4th rounder(#100 overall)
2017 1st rounder
2017 4th rounder
2018 2nd rounder

To entice us to move to #12 it would take a ridiculous haul of picks and or players.

.  
arcarsenal : 3/14/2018 3:36 pm : link
LOL. Slade trying desperately to be relevant still. Cute and sad at the same time.

He's like Katy Perry without the past success.
well, one way to look at it  
Greg from LI : 3/14/2018 3:38 pm : link
Slade IS an unquestioned expert in bullshit. He would know it when he sees it.
RE: What a bunch of bullshit...  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/14/2018 3:38 pm : link
In comment 13865578 Slade said:
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delete this now!!!
With this, I am starting to believe that this happens....
RE: well, one way to look at it  
arcarsenal : 3/14/2018 3:38 pm : link
In comment 13865590 Greg from LI said:
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Slade IS an unquestioned expert in bullshit. He would know it when he sees it.


True - it's like Costanza's ability to detect a lie.
Even with all those picks  
Carl in CT : 3/14/2018 3:39 pm : link
Ask the Eagles, they would do it again.
RE: Why does only QB have to be a perennial all-pro?  
pjcas18 : 3/14/2018 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13865575 twostepgiants said:
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Shouldnt that be the standard for any player taken at 2?

that's what I was saying.
RE: What a bunch of bullshit...  
nygiants16 : 3/14/2018 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13865578 Slade said:
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delete this now!!!


I now believe it is happening
RE: What a bunch of bullshit...  
Chef : 3/14/2018 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13865578 Slade said:
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delete this now!!!

This gives the Asshat info some credibility now....
15 minutes until the new league year  
The_Boss : 3/14/2018 3:46 pm : link
I would assume this gets announced soon there after?
RE: 15 minutes until the new league year  
The_Boss : 3/14/2018 3:46 pm : link
In comment 13865637 The_Boss said:
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I would assume this gets announced soon there after?


** IF it’s legit **
If we do this trade for a slew of 2018 picks + 2019 1  
George from PA : 3/14/2018 3:46 pm : link
Why not try to trade back down to 7 and get Nelson?
Slade..  
bw in dc : 3/14/2018 3:51 pm : link
Don't let these know it all jerk offs like Greg and arc grind you down!

Keep breaking the news!
Sorry I haven't followed up since posting a few hours ago  
DaddyM89 : 3/14/2018 3:51 pm : link
I have been absolutely swamped at work today. As others have mentioned, I have been a poster for almost 8 years and lurked for about 10 years before that. I have never posted fake news and have always tried to abide by BBIs rules. I've even written some articles for Eric in the past for BBI.

I understand with Asshat info it can either make or break a persons reputation (Hi Slade.) If it's wrong I will 100% man up and take my online beatings. I am standing by what I was told, and wanted to pass it along to BBI since I appreciate the community and all the breaking news so much. I personally am hoping it's wrong because I'm in the franchise QB or Barkley camp. But we should have some clarity about it soon.
Hey Daddy  
adamg : 3/14/2018 3:54 pm : link
No worries from me. Lightened the mood around here. Good stuff.
Also for those asking about source etc.  
DaddyM89 : 3/14/2018 3:57 pm : link
As Sonic Youth mentioned I did attend University of Miami, interned and worked for the football team under Al Golden. Still friendly and keep in touch with some current and former NFL players including Sean Spence, Senatrell Henderson among others. Also have a friend who is a low level NFL agent but is very connected with the inner goings of the league. That's about all I can say without giving away my source. Just wanted to provide a little more clarity.
same I appreciate the news regardless  
mphbullet36 : 3/14/2018 3:58 pm : link
I'm guessing you haven't heard any particulars like picks/players coming back?

Its just odd timing because what is the incentive for the Giants unless the Bills just blew them away with any offer they couldn't refuse and the giants wanted to start scouting players in the middle of the 1st round which they might not have been doing as heavily before?

I get it from the bills prospective...lock the #2 pick so you know you are at least getting one of the top 2 QB's...but for the Giants to do it there would have to be a ridiculous amount of value coming whether its picks/players.
Can you imagine...  
lono801 : 3/14/2018 4:01 pm : link
If what yankeeslover joked about actually happened?

Fuck...
mph  
DaddyM89 : 3/14/2018 4:02 pm : link
I was told it would be a haul. Probably similar to what we've been hearing around here for a potential trade. If I had to guess.

2 first rounders this year, 2nd rounder, 4th rounder, 2019 first rounder,

So who will wind up with more first round picks  
Jay in Toronto : 3/14/2018 4:02 pm : link
Giants or Rangers??????
Even legit  
mattyblue : 3/14/2018 4:02 pm : link
sources get things wrong. Don’t worry if it turns out not happening M89.

If they do this trade Gettleman will look foolish in the years to come. It’s like a kicking an extremely large bucket down the road.
We dug our hole with the draft  
Giantimistic : 3/14/2018 4:03 pm : link
Our problems are because of bad drafting and the best way to fix our problem is through good drafts--not free agency, but we are not going to do that with 5 draft picks. Although the second pick could be tremendous, we may be better off fixing the entire team with extra high picks this year and next year.

I want Barkley at 2, but I think we may benefit more with a draft haul as long as we actually start making good draft picks.
also agree its weird timing  
DaddyM89 : 3/14/2018 4:03 pm : link
thats what makes me think that they'd have to be blown away, and worry maybe the colts would take a similar package instead if they don't jump on it. Keep in mind the year rams and eagles traded up neither was on draft night. Rams were about 2 weeks before and eagles were about a week before. Granted not as far out as this but if it's something too good to pass up they probably pounce on it.
RE: mph  
nygiants16 : 3/14/2018 4:04 pm : link
In comment 13865699 DaddyM89 said:
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I was told it would be a haul. Probably similar to what we've been hearing around here for a potential trade. If I had to guess.

2 first rounders this year, 2nd rounder, 4th rounder, 2019 first rounder,



That k you for passing along much appreciated
Daddy  
Pete44 : 3/14/2018 4:04 pm : link
Thanks for the info, always fun fodder.

I hope the deal is not made, Giants should not pass up the chance to take a QB, unless the new coach likes a guy that they can get later like Mason Rudolph.
RE: Even legit  
nygiants16 : 3/14/2018 4:05 pm : link
In comment 13865703 mattyblue said:
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sources get things wrong. Don’t worry if it turns out not happening M89.

If they do this trade Gettleman will look foolish in the years to come. It’s like a kicking an extremely large bucket down the road.


Or he can look very smart by rebuilding the depth and if Davis Webb can become the future
RE: Gelbaugh was great in the World League  
smshmth8690 : 3/14/2018 4:05 pm : link
In comment 13865486 Go Terps said:
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Him and Kerwin Bell.


My wife actually bought a Kerwin Bell Jersey. She liked the dayglow green of the Orlando Thunder.
RE: mph  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/14/2018 4:06 pm : link
In comment 13865699 DaddyM89 said:
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I was told it would be a haul. Probably similar to what we've been hearing around here for a potential trade. If I had to guess.

2 first rounders this year, 2nd rounder, 4th rounder, 2019 first rounder,
Not enough for me based on the value charts. But fans are always greedy.
.  
Danny Kanell : 3/14/2018 4:06 pm : link
Thanks Daddy! Right or wrong, I appreciate the info.
RE: mph  
mphbullet36 : 3/14/2018 4:07 pm : link
In comment 13865699 DaddyM89 said:
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I was told it would be a haul. Probably similar to what we've been hearing around here for a potential trade. If I had to guess.

2 first rounders this year, 2nd rounder, 4th rounder, 2019 first rounder,


def sounds plausible (I would hope to scratch out both there seconds along with both 1sts and there 2019 1st. I would want to obliterate the trade value chart because it would be for a QB.

But from the looks of it Mara/Gettleman want to compete and these FA moves seems to align with giving Eli another year or two run at this. So from that prospective a trade down acquiring a trove of picks would make sense to help address a lot of our issues. I personally wouldn't do it. But the direction from the owner/GM point that would align with what they seem to be wanting to do.
i am against trading down but..  
2cents : 3/14/2018 4:08 pm : link
when does the offer just become too attractive to pass up?

Let us take this rumor and call it fact for sake of argument.. buffalo is offering both 1st round picks, a 2nd, a 4th AND 2019 1st for our 2nd overall pick.

do you take it?
RE: RE: Gelbaugh was great in the World League  
Greg from LI : 3/14/2018 4:08 pm : link
London Monarchs, baby!!!
RE: mph  
Bockman : 3/14/2018 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13865699 DaddyM89 said:
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I was told it would be a haul. Probably similar to what we've been hearing around here for a potential trade. If I had to guess.

2 first rounders this year, 2nd rounder, 4th rounder, 2019 first rounder,


If that's the return, I almost think you HAVE to do it. Especially if you aren't sold on the QBs. No way an RB prospect is worth giving up those picks either.
interesting  
Matt in SGS : 3/14/2018 4:11 pm : link
and thanks for passing along. I know it's tough to share info on BBI and not get backlash. That said, I find it strange the Giants would pull the trigger on a trade this big in mid March. Usually this would happen closer to the draft, so the only way I'd see this happening is if the following

- The Giants are not impressed with the QB crop to draft that high
- They don't want to pick a RB (Barkley) that high
- They realize they have lots of holes to fill and will spread the picks rather than hoping to hit a home run with #2
- The Giants are worried the Bills would make a similar deal with the Colts or Browns and wanted to strike before they move on.

If the deal doesn't include their next year #1, the Giants should hang up the phone.
If they do it, It better be an absolute haul.  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/14/2018 4:11 pm : link
Both #1s this year
2nd this year
1st and 2nd next year

Something mind blowing
Bockman  
DaddyM89 : 3/14/2018 4:13 pm : link
If that is the trade or something similar. Could be looking at something like Denzel Ward and Mcglitchey in the 1st (still not sold on flowers think hell be gone after this year even moving to RT.) and then maybe a Guice for RB and then a good guard with the Bills 2nd rounder. You get a OT, OG, CB, and RB. That fills a ton of holes on the team.

Plus you still have two first rounders next year where I don't think BIllls will be that great with a rookie QB and an aging McCoy at RB.
RE: Bockman  
Bockman : 3/14/2018 4:14 pm : link
In comment 13865762 DaddyM89 said:
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If that is the trade or something similar. Could be looking at something like Denzel Ward and Mcglitchey in the 1st (still not sold on flowers think hell be gone after this year even moving to RT.) and then maybe a Guice for RB and then a good guard with the Bills 2nd rounder. You get a OT, OG, CB, and RB. That fills a ton of holes on the team.

Plus you still have two first rounders next year where I don't think BIllls will be that great with a rookie QB and an aging McCoy at RB.


100% agree. Its just too much value to pass up IMO. Downside is our ceiling is low this year (6-7 wins tops)
i have heard nothing on this front  
hitdog42 : 3/14/2018 4:15 pm : link
fwiw
always happy to be surprised though....
Going  
Jon in NYC : 3/14/2018 4:15 pm : link
on 3.5 hours...
RE: i have heard nothing on this front  
Sammo85 : 3/14/2018 4:17 pm : link
In comment 13865774 hitdog42 said:
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fwiw
always happy to be surprised though....


Anything you have heard on other things?
RE: i have heard nothing on this front  
The_Boss : 3/14/2018 4:18 pm : link
In comment 13865774 hitdog42 said:
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fwiw
always happy to be surprised though....


Let’s hope it stays like that
If we do it could we get  
Giantimistic : 3/14/2018 4:22 pm : link
Both of their 1st round (12 and 22)
Both of their 2nd round (53 and 56)
Fourth 4rd (121)

2019 1st

If we got that we could use one of the second round picks to jump back into the top 10 if we wanted to.
RE: Also for those asking about source etc.  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/14/2018 4:24 pm : link
In comment 13865674 DaddyM89 said:
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As Sonic Youth mentioned I did attend University of Miami, interned and worked for the football team under Al Golden. Still friendly and keep in touch with some current and former NFL players including Sean Spence, Senatrell Henderson among others. Also have a friend who is a low level NFL agent but is very connected with the inner goings of the league. That's about all I can say without giving away my source. Just wanted to provide a little more clarity.


Daddy o

THRILL LOVES YOUR STYLE BRO.

Here's a question. If you want to protect your source, why share this allegedly sensitive info on an internet message board? Why do it??

You are betraying the confidence of somebody close to you. In order to...stir up discussion on a message board? Look like an insider for an audience of anonymous posters?

True or not, if you ever find yourself in possession of "insider info," Thrill Ride begs you to keep it private. Both for the sake of your relationship with source and also The Org's dealings.

Leaks a couple seasons ago caused us to get jumped for Jack Conklin and wind up with Eli Apple.
Because it is anonymous  
DaddyM89 : 3/14/2018 4:26 pm : link
I didnt see Joe Schmo at blank agency said this. BBI has been a great source of Giants as well as other info for me over the better part of two decades. Wanted to share the info I got. But thanks for your concern.
RE: Even legit  
allstarjim : 3/14/2018 4:26 pm : link
In comment 13865703 mattyblue said:
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sources get things wrong. Don’t worry if it turns out not happening M89.

If they do this trade Gettleman will look foolish in the years to come. It’s like a kicking an extremely large bucket down the road.


Or it will be genius. Cowboys trade of Herschel Walker netted them Emmitt Smith, Darren Woodson, and Russell Maryland (eventually, trading picks they received from Minnesota to maneuver). When you think about what 4 picks, 3 in the first two rounds, adding to our existing picks, and a 1st rounder next year, could potentially do...is set up the franchise for sustained success. Particularly if Buffalo's 2019 first rounder is parlayed into a franchise QB.
RE: If we do it could we get  
Sammo85 : 3/14/2018 4:28 pm : link
In comment 13865800 Giantimistic said:
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Both of their 1st round (12 and 22)
Both of their 2nd round (53 and 56)
Fourth 4rd (121)

2019 1st

If we got that we could use one of the second round picks to jump back into the top 10 if we wanted to.


No thanks. If you trade down for a haul, maximize and use all the picks.
RE: Sorry I haven't followed up since posting a few hours ago  
jvm52106 : 3/14/2018 4:29 pm : link
In comment 13865664 DaddyM89 said:
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I have been absolutely swamped at work today. As others have mentioned, I have been a poster for almost 8 years and lurked for about 10 years before that. I have never posted fake news and have always tried to abide by BBIs rules. I've even written some articles for Eric in the past for BBI.

I understand with Asshat info it can either make or break a persons reputation (Hi Slade.) If it's wrong I will 100% man up and take my online beatings. I am standing by what I was told, and wanted to pass it along to BBI since I appreciate the community and all the breaking news so much. I personally am hoping it's wrong because I'm in the franchise QB or Barkley camp. But we should have some clarity about it soon.


I am all for it. Please share whatever you hear.
lmao  
2cents : 3/14/2018 4:31 pm : link
other teams are not acting on "inside info" posted on a fan page blog..... keep the rumors coming.

makes for fun discussion and entertainment, that is the main reason we are all here, right?
RE: mph  
AcidTest : 3/14/2018 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13865699 DaddyM89 said:
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I was told it would be a haul. Probably similar to what we've been hearing around here for a potential trade. If I had to guess.

2 first rounders this year, 2nd rounder, 4th rounder, 2019 first rounder,


Thanks for the information. I'd still prefer not to drop to #12. Too much of a trade down. But that would be fair compensation.
I am sure this thread blew it up!  
AnnapolisMike : 3/14/2018 4:35 pm : link
:-)

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