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DaddyM89 : 3/14/2018 12:59 pm
for #2 pick. Just got a text from someone I trust. Take it for what its worth. Should be breaking next few hours.
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RE: RE: Even legit  
Giants34 : 3/14/2018 4:35 pm : link
In comment 13865815 allstarjim said:
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In comment 13865703 mattyblue said:


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sources get things wrong. Don’t worry if it turns out not happening M89.

If they do this trade Gettleman will look foolish in the years to come. It’s like a kicking an extremely large bucket down the road.



Or it will be genius. Cowboys trade of Herschel Walker netted them Emmitt Smith, Darren Woodson, and Russell Maryland (eventually, trading picks they received from Minnesota to maneuver). When you think about what 4 picks, 3 in the first two rounds, adding to our existing picks, and a 1st rounder next year, could potentially do...is set up the franchise for sustained success. Particularly if Buffalo's 2019 first rounder is parlayed into a franchise QB.


And you know what the difference is? The Cowboys already had Aikman. They could afford to make that move and accumulate assets. If we already had a young franchise QB, I'd be in full favor of moving down and getting whatever we could for our pick.
RE: RE: Also for those asking about source etc.  
Sonic Youth : 3/14/2018 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13865806 One Man Thrill Ride said:
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In comment 13865674 DaddyM89 said:


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As Sonic Youth mentioned I did attend University of Miami, interned and worked for the football team under Al Golden. Still friendly and keep in touch with some current and former NFL players including Sean Spence, Senatrell Henderson among others. Also have a friend who is a low level NFL agent but is very connected with the inner goings of the league. That's about all I can say without giving away my source. Just wanted to provide a little more clarity.



Daddy o

THRILL LOVES YOUR STYLE BRO.

Here's a question. If you want to protect your source, why share this allegedly sensitive info on an internet message board? Why do it??

You are betraying the confidence of somebody close to you. In order to...stir up discussion on a message board? Look like an insider for an audience of anonymous posters?

True or not, if you ever find yourself in possession of "insider info," Thrill Ride begs you to keep it private. Both for the sake of your relationship with source and also The Org's dealings.

Leaks a couple seasons ago caused us to get jumped for Jack Conklin and wind up with Eli Apple.
the thought that a GM of some other team is going to use this post to formulate some sort of draft strategy is both ludicrous and laughable
RE: Because it is anonymous  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/14/2018 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13865813 DaddyM89 said:
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I didnt see Joe Schmo at blank agency said this. BBI has been a great source of Giants as well as other info for me over the better part of two decades. Wanted to share the info I got. But thanks for your concern.


Let's just say hypothetically you got accurate info.

Posting it publicly on the internet threatens the deal between the two teams. Leaks like that on the internet and in the media literally burned The Org in 2016 draft.

Did your source give you permission to share this info? I'm guessing no. Maybe BBI has been good to you, but you aren't being a good friend to your source by sharing something almost certainly told in confidence.

But hey, 250 comments and counting.
RE: RE: Because it is anonymous  
nygiants16 : 3/14/2018 4:42 pm : link
In comment 13865866 One Man Thrill Ride said:
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In comment 13865813 DaddyM89 said:


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I didnt see Joe Schmo at blank agency said this. BBI has been a great source of Giants as well as other info for me over the better part of two decades. Wanted to share the info I got. But thanks for your concern.



Let's just say hypothetically you got accurate info.

Posting it publicly on the internet threatens the deal between the two teams. Leaks like that on the internet and in the media literally burned The Org in 2016 draft.

Did your source give you permission to share this info? I'm guessing no. Maybe BBI has been good to you, but you aren't being a good friend to your source by sharing something almost certainly told in confidence.

But hey, 250 comments and counting.


You are an idiot
RE: RE: Because it is anonymous  
LarmerTJR : 3/14/2018 4:43 pm : link
OMTR

Are you actually serious? Please get off your soapbox here. BBI did not "ruin" any great NYG draft strategy in 2016. The leaks were elsewhere, and ended up here as well. But you can believe what you want. Just stop preaching. Trynig to scare away info and discussion is NOT the point of the message board, Quite the contrary.

In comment 13865866 One Man Thrill Ride said:
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In comment 13865813 DaddyM89 said:


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I didnt see Joe Schmo at blank agency said this. BBI has been a great source of Giants as well as other info for me over the better part of two decades. Wanted to share the info I got. But thanks for your concern.



Let's just say hypothetically you got accurate info.

Posting it publicly on the internet threatens the deal between the two teams. Leaks like that on the internet and in the media literally burned The Org in 2016 draft.

Did your source give you permission to share this info? I'm guessing no. Maybe BBI has been good to you, but you aren't being a good friend to your source by sharing something almost certainly told in confidence.

But hey, 250 comments and counting.
RE: RE: Because it is anonymous  
jvm52106 : 3/14/2018 4:44 pm : link
In comment 13865866 One Man Thrill Ride said:
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In comment 13865813 DaddyM89 said:


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I didnt see Joe Schmo at blank agency said this. BBI has been a great source of Giants as well as other info for me over the better part of two decades. Wanted to share the info I got. But thanks for your concern.



Let's just say hypothetically you got accurate info.

Posting it publicly on the internet threatens the deal between the two teams. Leaks like that on the internet and in the media literally burned The Org in 2016 draft.

Did your source give you permission to share this info? I'm guessing no. Maybe BBI has been good to you, but you aren't being a good friend to your source by sharing something almost certainly told in confidence.

But hey, 250 comments and counting.


Ummm, NO....
RE: RE: RE: Also for those asking about source etc.  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/14/2018 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13865865 Sonic Youth said:
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In comment 13865806 One Man Thrill Ride said:


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In comment 13865674 DaddyM89 said:


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As Sonic Youth mentioned I did attend University of Miami, interned and worked for the football team under Al Golden. Still friendly and keep in touch with some current and former NFL players including Sean Spence, Senatrell Henderson among others. Also have a friend who is a low level NFL agent but is very connected with the inner goings of the league. That's about all I can say without giving away my source. Just wanted to provide a little more clarity.



Daddy o

THRILL LOVES YOUR STYLE BRO.

Here's a question. If you want to protect your source, why share this allegedly sensitive info on an internet message board? Why do it??

You are betraying the confidence of somebody close to you. In order to...stir up discussion on a message board? Look like an insider for an audience of anonymous posters?

True or not, if you ever find yourself in possession of "insider info," Thrill Ride begs you to keep it private. Both for the sake of your relationship with source and also The Org's dealings.

Leaks a couple seasons ago caused us to get jumped for Jack Conklin and wind up with Eli Apple.

the thought that a GM of some other team is going to use this post to formulate some sort of draft strategy is both ludicrous and laughable


SONIC YOUT

THRILL loves your style, Broseph Gordon-Levitt.

That's amazing that you used two adjectives, ludicrous and laughable, to describe one statement. And both those words start with the letter "L". Oh my stars, what a wordsmith!

Try to follow Thrilly Bob Thornton on this very simple journey:

-Beat writers read message boards (they do_
-They contact their sources to chase leads
-Smoke
-Fire
-The alleged insider info surfaces on Twitter

You might believe it is laughable, ludicrous, leviticus, litigious, linsane but the internet is a powerful machine.
RE: RE: Because it is anonymous  
Mike from SI : 3/14/2018 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13865866 One Man Thrill Ride said:
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In comment 13865813 DaddyM89 said:


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I didnt see Joe Schmo at blank agency said this. BBI has been a great source of Giants as well as other info for me over the better part of two decades. Wanted to share the info I got. But thanks for your concern.



Let's just say hypothetically you got accurate info.

Posting it publicly on the internet threatens the deal between the two teams. Leaks like that on the internet and in the media literally burned The Org in 2016 draft.

Did your source give you permission to share this info? I'm guessing no. Maybe BBI has been good to you, but you aren't being a good friend to your source by sharing something almost certainly told in confidence.

But hey, 250 comments and counting.


What the fuck is going on.
hahaha.  
2cents : 3/14/2018 4:46 pm : link
the thought of Ozzie Newsome scrolling through this page made me giggle. or imagine some low level scout going up to a gm "hey boss, DaddyM89 says the bills and giants are making a move.. "
Is this going down before or after dinner?  
The_Boss : 3/14/2018 4:47 pm : link
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RE: RE: If we do it could we get  
mphbullet36 : 3/14/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 13865823 Sammo85 said:
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Both of their 1st round (12 and 22)
Both of their 2nd round (53 and 56)
Fourth 4rd (121)

2019 1st

If we got that we could use one of the second round picks to jump back into the top 10 if we wanted to.



No thanks. If you trade down for a haul, maximize and use all the picks.


I disagree sammo. If we move down to 12...and then Nelson says slips past the jets @ 6...and you call the Bucs and offer #12 and #56 (acquired from the bills) to move up to #7 to pick nelson.

Then still have #22, #53, #121, and a there 2019 1st while still all our picks and acquiring nelson....that would fill a lot of issues and still get the lineman we coveted if thats our plan
RE: RE: RE: RE: Also for those asking about source etc.  
2cents : 3/14/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 13865894 One Man Thrill Ride said:
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In comment 13865806 One Man Thrill Ride said:


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In comment 13865674 DaddyM89 said:


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As Sonic Youth mentioned I did attend University of Miami, interned and worked for the football team under Al Golden. Still friendly and keep in touch with some current and former NFL players including Sean Spence, Senatrell Henderson among others. Also have a friend who is a low level NFL agent but is very connected with the inner goings of the league. That's about all I can say without giving away my source. Just wanted to provide a little more clarity.



Daddy o

THRILL LOVES YOUR STYLE BRO.

Here's a question. If you want to protect your source, why share this allegedly sensitive info on an internet message board? Why do it??

You are betraying the confidence of somebody close to you. In order to...stir up discussion on a message board? Look like an insider for an audience of anonymous posters?

True or not, if you ever find yourself in possession of "insider info," Thrill Ride begs you to keep it private. Both for the sake of your relationship with source and also The Org's dealings.

Leaks a couple seasons ago caused us to get jumped for Jack Conklin and wind up with Eli Apple.

the thought that a GM of some other team is going to use this post to formulate some sort of draft strategy is both ludicrous and laughable



SONIC YOUT

THRILL loves your style, Broseph Gordon-Levitt.

That's amazing that you used two adjectives, ludicrous and laughable, to describe one statement. And both those words start with the letter "L". Oh my stars, what a wordsmith!

Try to follow Thrilly Bob Thornton on this very simple journey:

-Beat writers read message boards (they do_
-They contact their sources to chase leads
-Smoke
-Fire
-The alleged insider info surfaces on Twitter

You might believe it is laughable, ludicrous, leviticus, litigious, linsane but the internet is a powerful machine.


jordan raanan must love all those juicy tid-bits Slade has been dropping him. no wonder the giants are such a mess..
RE: RE: RE: Even legit  
jvm52106 : 3/14/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 13865846 Giants34 said:
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sources get things wrong. Don’t worry if it turns out not happening M89.

If they do this trade Gettleman will look foolish in the years to come. It’s like a kicking an extremely large bucket down the road.



Or it will be genius. Cowboys trade of Herschel Walker netted them Emmitt Smith, Darren Woodson, and Russell Maryland (eventually, trading picks they received from Minnesota to maneuver). When you think about what 4 picks, 3 in the first two rounds, adding to our existing picks, and a 1st rounder next year, could potentially do...is set up the franchise for sustained success. Particularly if Buffalo's 2019 first rounder is parlayed into a franchise QB.



And you know what the difference is? The Cowboys already had Aikman. They could afford to make that move and accumulate assets. If we already had a young franchise QB, I'd be in full favor of moving down and getting whatever we could for our pick.


OMG, those two things are not related. The Boys selected Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft too. So they have 2 1sr RD QB's..
well old man thrill you caught me  
DaddyM89 : 3/14/2018 4:55 pm : link
gentleman just called Eric from BBI and said Bills want us to throw in OBJ and Collins due to some daddy guy leaking the trade on his message board.
RE: RE: Even legit  
twostepgiants : 3/14/2018 4:56 pm : link
In comment 13865815 allstarjim said:
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In comment 13865703 mattyblue said:


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sources get things wrong. Don’t worry if it turns out not happening M89.

If they do this trade Gettleman will look foolish in the years to come. It’s like a kicking an extremely large bucket down the road.



Or it will be genius. Cowboys trade of Herschel Walker netted them Emmitt Smith, Darren Woodson, and Russell Maryland (eventually, trading picks they received from Minnesota to maneuver). When you think about what 4 picks, 3 in the first two rounds, adding to our existing picks, and a 1st rounder next year, could potentially do...is set up the franchise for sustained success. Particularly if Buffalo's 2019 first rounder is parlayed into a franchise QB.


Everyone points to Dallas the example. Do you have a more recent example? Say in the last 30 years?
RE: hahaha.  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/14/2018 4:57 pm : link
In comment 13865899 2cents said:
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the thought of Ozzie Newsome scrolling through this page made me giggle. or imagine some low level scout going up to a gm "hey boss, DaddyM89 says the bills and giants are making a move.. "


Members of The Org read this site.

They are aware of posters like hitdog42, who have been sharing accurate info, probably gleaned through an agent.

All the beats read this site.

Jordan Ranaan posts on this site.

Bryan Kehl has posted on this site.

A poster here had accurate inside info on the BENGALS 1st round pick (John Ross) hours prior to last year's draft.

THRILL should not have to explain the avalanche effect of rumors on the internet. I know it's exciting because you guys are bored at work and will literally believe anything with the term "asshat" attached to it.

Bottom line, DaddyM is either a) making it all up, or b) being a shitty friend and betraying the confidence of someone he "trusts"

If you personally learned a secret from a trustworthy friend, would you immediately go share it on a message board? WHAT
Can we delete this BS thread yet?  
jlukes : 3/14/2018 4:58 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Also for those asking about source etc.  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/14/2018 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13865912 2cents said:
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In comment 13865865 Sonic Youth said:


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In comment 13865806 One Man Thrill Ride said:


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In comment 13865674 DaddyM89 said:


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As Sonic Youth mentioned I did attend University of Miami, interned and worked for the football team under Al Golden. Still friendly and keep in touch with some current and former NFL players including Sean Spence, Senatrell Henderson among others. Also have a friend who is a low level NFL agent but is very connected with the inner goings of the league. That's about all I can say without giving away my source. Just wanted to provide a little more clarity.



Daddy o

THRILL LOVES YOUR STYLE BRO.

Here's a question. If you want to protect your source, why share this allegedly sensitive info on an internet message board? Why do it??

You are betraying the confidence of somebody close to you. In order to...stir up discussion on a message board? Look like an insider for an audience of anonymous posters?

True or not, if you ever find yourself in possession of "insider info," Thrill Ride begs you to keep it private. Both for the sake of your relationship with source and also The Org's dealings.

Leaks a couple seasons ago caused us to get jumped for Jack Conklin and wind up with Eli Apple.

the thought that a GM of some other team is going to use this post to formulate some sort of draft strategy is both ludicrous and laughable



SONIC YOUT

THRILL loves your style, Broseph Gordon-Levitt.

That's amazing that you used two adjectives, ludicrous and laughable, to describe one statement. And both those words start with the letter "L". Oh my stars, what a wordsmith!

Try to follow Thrilly Bob Thornton on this very simple journey:

-Beat writers read message boards (they do_
-They contact their sources to chase leads
-Smoke
-Fire
-The alleged insider info surfaces on Twitter

You might believe it is laughable, ludicrous, leviticus, litigious, linsane but the internet is a powerful machine.



jordan raanan must love all those juicy tid-bits Slade has been dropping him. no wonder the giants are such a mess..


Jordan is a great guy and an ethical writer. He might remember when someone on BBI posted a false rumor deliberately "just to see if it would enter the news cycle" ... and it did!!

One of the newspapers picked it up and the poster later confessed to the chicanery. Bad journalism is obviously a factor in the proliferation of leaks .
RE: RE: hahaha.  
LarmerTJR : 3/14/2018 5:00 pm : link
Holy Shit. Give it up and go away.

In comment 13865930 One Man Thrill Ride said:
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the thought of Ozzie Newsome scrolling through this page made me giggle. or imagine some low level scout going up to a gm "hey boss, DaddyM89 says the bills and giants are making a move.. "



Members of The Org read this site.

They are aware of posters like hitdog42, who have been sharing accurate info, probably gleaned through an agent.

All the beats read this site.

Jordan Ranaan posts on this site.

Bryan Kehl has posted on this site.

A poster here had accurate inside info on the BENGALS 1st round pick (John Ross) hours prior to last year's draft.

THRILL should not have to explain the avalanche effect of rumors on the internet. I know it's exciting because you guys are bored at work and will literally believe anything with the term "asshat" attached to it.

Bottom line, DaddyM is either a) making it all up, or b) being a shitty friend and betraying the confidence of someone he "trusts"

If you personally learned a secret from a trustworthy friend, would you immediately go share it on a message board? WHAT
RE: well old man thrill you caught me  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/14/2018 5:05 pm : link
In comment 13865922 DaddyM89 said:
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gentleman just called Eric from BBI and said Bills want us to throw in OBJ and Collins due to some daddy guy leaking the trade on his message board.


Eric is about as well connected as a 56k modem. Glad he had time to field a call from "Gentleman" though.

Out of curiosity, if you told your "trusted" source that you shared his info on BBI, how would he respond? Tell the truth.
RE: RE: RE: hahaha.  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/14/2018 5:06 pm : link
In comment 13865942 LarmerTJR said:
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Holy Shit. Give it up and go away.

In comment 13865930 One Man Thrill Ride said:


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In comment 13865899 2cents said:


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the thought of Ozzie Newsome scrolling through this page made me giggle. or imagine some low level scout going up to a gm "hey boss, DaddyM89 says the bills and giants are making a move.. "



Members of The Org read this site.

They are aware of posters like hitdog42, who have been sharing accurate info, probably gleaned through an agent.

All the beats read this site.

Jordan Ranaan posts on this site.

Bryan Kehl has posted on this site.

A poster here had accurate inside info on the BENGALS 1st round pick (John Ross) hours prior to last year's draft.

THRILL should not have to explain the avalanche effect of rumors on the internet. I know it's exciting because you guys are bored at work and will literally believe anything with the term "asshat" attached to it.

Bottom line, DaddyM is either a) making it all up, or b) being a shitty friend and betraying the confidence of someone he "trusts"

If you personally learned a secret from a trustworthy friend, would you immediately go share it on a message board? WHAT



LimerickGuy just reported that the Earth is indeed flat, you believe him right?
This is simple  
weaverpsu : 3/14/2018 5:07 pm : link
If the Browns draft Barkley, we trade with Bills. We get several picks to build this team and draft a QB next year or replace Eli in free agency in 3-4 years. If not, we draft Barkley. That simple. We cannot pass on Barkley at number 2.
RE: Can we delete this BS thread yet?  
Mike from SI : 3/14/2018 5:08 pm : link
In comment 13865935 jlukes said:
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Fuck no! I'm learning all about the massive power BBI has over the NFL, don't you fucking ruin this for me!
RE: This is simple  
Giants34 : 3/14/2018 5:12 pm : link
In comment 13865956 weaverpsu said:
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If the Browns draft Barkley, we trade with Bills. We get several picks to build this team and draft a QB next year or replace Eli in free agency in 3-4 years. If not, we draft Barkley. That simple. We cannot pass on Barkley at number 2.


Go ahead and take a look at the QBs available for next year's draft. You'll come running back here pleading the Giants to stay put and draft a QB this year at #2.
You Can't Predict the Future  
weaverpsu : 3/14/2018 5:14 pm : link
There is always someone that surprises and names that come out of nowhere. QB's always seem to be a crapshoot.
RE: RE: Can we delete this BS thread yet?  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/14/2018 5:15 pm : link
In comment 13865960 Mike from SI said:
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Fuck no! I'm learning all about the massive power BBI has over the NFL, don't you fucking ruin this for me!


Thought exercise. League wide. Where do you think rumors start?
RE: RE: This is simple  
mphbullet36 : 3/14/2018 5:15 pm : link
In comment 13865970 Giants34 said:
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If the Browns draft Barkley, we trade with Bills. We get several picks to build this team and draft a QB next year or replace Eli in free agency in 3-4 years. If not, we draft Barkley. That simple. We cannot pass on Barkley at number 2.



Go ahead and take a look at the QBs available for next year's draft. You'll come running back here pleading the Giants to stay put and draft a QB this year at #2.


I don't know as much as the next guy what the giants feel internally about Webb but you seem to be writing him off pretty easily if the Giants like him enough to give him a go to replace Eli then we wouldn't at least have to worry about addressing QB until Eli retires and Webb proves he can't do it...its risky but we aren't there to know if Webb has the goods or not...its not like he was some undrafted FA he was a 3rd round pick.
RE: RE: RE: RE: hahaha.  
LarmerTJR : 3/14/2018 5:18 pm : link
My point has nothing to do with belief or disbelief. It is about discussion and conversation on all things Giants. Can you 100% disprove him, or do you just enjoy responding in absurd prose and trying to put down a poster that thought he had info the rest of us might enjoy discussing?

Stopping being an asshole. If you don't like the OP and the post, go elsewhere. The OP being right or wrong is almost irrelevant (being he's not Slade), it the discussions and banter about the Giants, not your feelings on information dissemination, that we are here for.

But we all appreciate your concern.

In comment 13865955 One Man Thrill Ride said:
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Holy Shit. Give it up and go away.

In comment 13865930 One Man Thrill Ride said:


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In comment 13865899 2cents said:


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the thought of Ozzie Newsome scrolling through this page made me giggle. or imagine some low level scout going up to a gm "hey boss, DaddyM89 says the bills and giants are making a move.. "



Members of The Org read this site.

They are aware of posters like hitdog42, who have been sharing accurate info, probably gleaned through an agent.

All the beats read this site.

Jordan Ranaan posts on this site.

Bryan Kehl has posted on this site.

A poster here had accurate inside info on the BENGALS 1st round pick (John Ross) hours prior to last year's draft.

THRILL should not have to explain the avalanche effect of rumors on the internet. I know it's exciting because you guys are bored at work and will literally believe anything with the term "asshat" attached to it.

Bottom line, DaddyM is either a) making it all up, or b) being a shitty friend and betraying the confidence of someone he "trusts"

If you personally learned a secret from a trustworthy friend, would you immediately go share it on a message board? WHAT





LimerickGuy just reported that the Earth is indeed flat, you believe him right?
RE: lol  
baadbill : 3/14/2018 5:19 pm : link
In comment 13864920 illmatic said:
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We have all this free agent news going on and people feel like now is the time to post this stuff. If you're going to be a fake asshat, at least do it during a slow time.

They're not making any major draft trades until draft day.


Umm... remind us again, when was it that the Bills completed a first round trade to obtain the 12th pick of this draft?

I’m not saying this trade rumor is valid. But your argument is demonstrably false.
Just came on BBI & scrolled through this thread,  
TheMick7 : 3/14/2018 5:21 pm : link
DaddyM89 is a long time,reputable poster & I'm sure all of us get excited when we see "asshat"info.That being said,Gettleman said a while ago You don't get too cute with the #2 & you want to get a "HOF" type player with it. #12 is too far back I'm still in the franchise QB camp but would be okay w/Barkley. Don't see that happening at such a lower pick.But,this was fun to read through!
RE: If we do it could we get  
Matt in SGS : 3/14/2018 5:32 pm : link
In comment 13865800 Giantimistic said:
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Both of their 1st round (12 and 22)
Both of their 2nd round (53 and 56)
Fourth 4rd (121)

2019 1st

If we got that we could use one of the second round picks to jump back into the top 10 if we wanted to.


This will be a good point to look at as far as value. I know people don't necessarily go by the draft value chart, but for the sake of argument (since NFL teams have used it), let's look at the value.

The #2 pick in the draft is worth 2600 points

Per the grouping above-

#12- 1200
#22- 780
#53- 370
#56- 340

Total - 2690 points.

And that doesn't include the value of the 1st round pick next year for the Bills. Where if they win the Super Bowl and pick #32- 590 points.

So 3,280 points (assuming Bills win Super Bowl) to give up 2600 points.

Pure value, looking at the numbers, the Giants don't want a fair deal, they want a deal they will win. If that offer is on the table, based on the numbers, the Giants should do it.
Thrilly, serious question...  
2cents : 3/14/2018 5:32 pm : link
are you the same one man thrill ride who posts ridiculous videos of your self screaming in douche sunglasses?
DaddyM is part right...  
Milton : 3/14/2018 5:35 pm : link
It's a three-team trade in which the Bills get the #2 pick and Ereck Flowers, the Giants get the #3 pick and #53 overall and the Colts get a ton of picks from the Bills.

The Browns take Darnold
The Bills take Allen
The Giants take Rosen
The Browns take Barkley
The Broncos take Mayfield
RE: RE: If we do it could we get  
Matt in SGS : 3/14/2018 5:35 pm : link
In comment 13865998 Matt in SGS said:
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In comment 13865800 Giantimistic said:


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Both of their 1st round (12 and 22)
Both of their 2nd round (53 and 56)
Fourth 4rd (121)

2019 1st

If we got that we could use one of the second round picks to jump back into the top 10 if we wanted to.



This will be a good point to look at as far as value. I know people don't necessarily go by the draft value chart, but for the sake of argument (since NFL teams have used it), let's look at the value.

The #2 pick in the draft is worth 2600 points

Per the grouping above-

#12- 1200
#22- 780
#53- 370
#56- 340

Total - 2690 points.

And that doesn't include the value of the 1st round pick next year for the Bills. Where if they win the Super Bowl and pick #32- 590 points.

So 3,280 points (assuming Bills win Super Bowl) to give up 2600 points.

Pure value, looking at the numbers, the Giants don't want a fair deal, they want a deal they will win. If that offer is on the table, based on the numbers, the Giants should do it.


Missed the 4th- which is an extra 52 points.

Odds are the Giants would have to send something back, like their own 4th or whatever. A 4th won't make or break it either way.
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arcarsenal : 3/14/2018 5:36 pm : link
The Thrill is smarter than some of you guys think - I wouldn't call him an idiot.
Bills have 2 picks in round 2  
Reale01 : 3/14/2018 5:37 pm : link
I would take both #1 both #2 and 2019 #1
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: hahaha.  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/14/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13865983 LarmerTJR said:
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My point has nothing to do with belief or disbelief. It is about discussion and conversation on all things Giants. Can you 100% disprove him, or do you just enjoy responding in absurd prose and trying to put down a poster that thought he had info the rest of us might enjoy discussing?

Stopping being an asshole. If you don't like the OP and the post, go elsewhere. The OP being right or wrong is almost irrelevant (being he's not Slade), it the discussions and banter about the Giants, not your feelings on information dissemination, that we are here for.


Listen kiddo.

The Thrill Ride has been posting on this site for 34 years. And lurking for 10 minutes prior to that.

This same cycle happens every offseason. Gloved one. Slade. Coach Justy. LimerickGuy. Its a master class in hucksterism. I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook and by gummit it put them on the map!

These guys. The insider info. Either they are a) making it up (almost always), or b) betraying a source

Sooooo YUP, sorry DaddyM. Thrillson Phillips is calling you out on either purposefully sharing false bs and/or needlessly violating the confidence of a friend. The Thrill appreciates how you copied page 1 of LimerickGuy's textbook with the whole "if I'm wrong, I'll be a man and admit it." Wow, such integrity. So much integrity. "Here is sensitive information that I'm sharing without permission, if it's bs I'll cop to it ...because I AM A MAN."

Latimer - you might be a reasonable bro, bro. Do you think DaddyM's source would approve of this thread?

And yes, rumors often start on message boards (or some corner of the internet) and fester into twitter and climb the latter of visibility. The internet is not a sacred or hidden palace.
RE: Thrilly, serious question...  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/14/2018 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13866001 2cents said:
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are you the same one man thrill ride who posts ridiculous videos of your self screaming in douche sunglasses?


Now what do you think.

RAHHHHHHHH
Who is this fucking guy?  
The_Boss : 3/14/2018 5:39 pm : link
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Wait a second  
mikeygiants : 3/14/2018 5:41 pm : link
I live in north Haverbrook and we don’t have a monorail.

So in conlusion, Mono means one and rail means rail.
lmao that would explain alot  
2cents : 3/14/2018 5:42 pm : link
hate to plug your page if it really is you ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7viXiEXIStA


but certainly helps knowing your a comedian... that way i dont have to take you seriously hahaha
Is there a chance the track could bend?  
Pork Chop : 3/14/2018 5:42 pm : link
Not on your life, my Hindu friend.
RE: Who is this fucking guy?  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/14/2018 5:43 pm : link
In comment 13866014 The_Boss said:
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Also for those asking about source etc.  
JordanRaanan : 3/14/2018 5:44 pm : link
Appreciate you saying I'm a good guy and ethical. I do pop in here once in a while. Things like this Bills rumor crosses my radar. I undoubtedly looked into it. Don't want to get caught sleeping if it's true.

But about that false rumor on BBI that made its way into the news cycle ... please tell. I'm interested in hearing this story. Never heard that.




In comment 13865941 One Man Thrill Ride said:
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As Sonic Youth mentioned I did attend University of Miami, interned and worked for the football team under Al Golden. Still friendly and keep in touch with some current and former NFL players including Sean Spence, Senatrell Henderson among others. Also have a friend who is a low level NFL agent but is very connected with the inner goings of the league. That's about all I can say without giving away my source. Just wanted to provide a little more clarity.



Daddy o

THRILL LOVES YOUR STYLE BRO.

Here's a question. If you want to protect your source, why share this allegedly sensitive info on an internet message board? Why do it??

You are betraying the confidence of somebody close to you. In order to...stir up discussion on a message board? Look like an insider for an audience of anonymous posters?

True or not, if you ever find yourself in possession of "insider info," Thrill Ride begs you to keep it private. Both for the sake of your relationship with source and also The Org's dealings.

Leaks a couple seasons ago caused us to get jumped for Jack Conklin and wind up with Eli Apple.

the thought that a GM of some other team is going to use this post to formulate some sort of draft strategy is both ludicrous and laughable



SONIC YOUT

THRILL loves your style, Broseph Gordon-Levitt.

That's amazing that you used two adjectives, ludicrous and laughable, to describe one statement. And both those words start with the letter "L". Oh my stars, what a wordsmith!

Try to follow Thrilly Bob Thornton on this very simple journey:

-Beat writers read message boards (they do_
-They contact their sources to chase leads
-Smoke
-Fire
-The alleged insider info surfaces on Twitter

You might believe it is laughable, ludicrous, leviticus, litigious, linsane but the internet is a powerful machine.



jordan raanan must love all those juicy tid-bits Slade has been dropping him. no wonder the giants are such a mess..



Jordan is a great guy and an ethical writer. He might remember when someone on BBI posted a false rumor deliberately "just to see if it would enter the news cycle" ... and it did!!

One of the newspapers picked it up and the poster later confessed to the chicanery. Bad journalism is obviously a factor in the proliferation of leaks .
RE: lmao that would explain alot  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/14/2018 5:46 pm : link
In comment 13866016 2cents said:
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hate to plug your page if it really is you ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7viXiEXIStA


but certainly helps knowing your a comedian... that way i dont have to take you seriously hahaha


Alumni Baseball Game is the best one. Got that, frat house joy boy?
I think the fake story is the rumor  
adamg : 3/14/2018 5:48 pm : link
247 sports picked up. So I don't know if that one counts since that's not like a real journalistic outlet...
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: hahaha.  
LarmerTJR : 3/14/2018 5:49 pm : link
I don't really care what Daddy's source thinks. That's between them.

I also don't care if you have been posting since Al Gore created the internet. You sound like an ass. Your posts add no value, and it is compounded by your moronic use of the English language. We understand how SOME internet rumors start. We get your point. If you don't like the thread, leave it. That's my point.

In comment 13866010 One Man Thrill Ride said:
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In comment 13865983 LarmerTJR said:


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My point has nothing to do with belief or disbelief. It is about discussion and conversation on all things Giants. Can you 100% disprove him, or do you just enjoy responding in absurd prose and trying to put down a poster that thought he had info the rest of us might enjoy discussing?

Stopping being an asshole. If you don't like the OP and the post, go elsewhere. The OP being right or wrong is almost irrelevant (being he's not Slade), it the discussions and banter about the Giants, not your feelings on information dissemination, that we are here for.



Listen kiddo.

The Thrill Ride has been posting on this site for 34 years. And lurking for 10 minutes prior to that.

This same cycle happens every offseason. Gloved one. Slade. Coach Justy. LimerickGuy. Its a master class in hucksterism. I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook and by gummit it put them on the map!

These guys. The insider info. Either they are a) making it up (almost always), or b) betraying a source

Sooooo YUP, sorry DaddyM. Thrillson Phillips is calling you out on either purposefully sharing false bs and/or needlessly violating the confidence of a friend. The Thrill appreciates how you copied page 1 of LimerickGuy's textbook with the whole "if I'm wrong, I'll be a man and admit it." Wow, such integrity. So much integrity. "Here is sensitive information that I'm sharing without permission, if it's bs I'll cop to it ...because I AM A MAN."

Latimer - you might be a reasonable bro, bro. Do you think DaddyM's source would approve of this thread?

And yes, rumors often start on message boards (or some corner of the internet) and fester into twitter and climb the latter of visibility. The internet is not a sacred or hidden palace.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Also for those asking about source etc.  
eli4life : 3/14/2018 5:51 pm : link
In comment 13866019 JordanRaanan said:
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Appreciate you saying I'm a good guy and ethical. I do pop in here once in a while. Things like this Bills rumor crosses my radar. I undoubtedly looked into it. Don't want to get caught sleeping if it's true.

But about that false rumor on BBI that made its way into the news cycle ... please tell. I'm interested in hearing this story. Never heard that.




In comment 13865941 One Man Thrill Ride said:


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In comment 13865912 2cents said:


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In comment 13865894 One Man Thrill Ride said:


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In comment 13865865 Sonic Youth said:


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In comment 13865806 One Man Thrill Ride said:


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In comment 13865674 DaddyM89 said:


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As Sonic Youth mentioned I did attend University of Miami, interned and worked for the football team under Al Golden. Still friendly and keep in touch with some current and former NFL players including Sean Spence, Senatrell Henderson among others. Also have a friend who is a low level NFL agent but is very connected with the inner goings of the league. That's about all I can say without giving away my source. Just wanted to provide a little more clarity.



Daddy o

THRILL LOVES YOUR STYLE BRO.

Here's a question. If you want to protect your source, why share this allegedly sensitive info on an internet message board? Why do it??

You are betraying the confidence of somebody close to you. In order to...stir up discussion on a message board? Look like an insider for an audience of anonymous posters?

True or not, if you ever find yourself in possession of "insider info," Thrill Ride begs you to keep it private. Both for the sake of your relationship with source and also The Org's dealings.

Leaks a couple seasons ago caused us to get jumped for Jack Conklin and wind up with Eli Apple.

the thought that a GM of some other team is going to use this post to formulate some sort of draft strategy is both ludicrous and laughable



SONIC YOUT

THRILL loves your style, Broseph Gordon-Levitt.

That's amazing that you used two adjectives, ludicrous and laughable, to describe one statement. And both those words start with the letter "L". Oh my stars, what a wordsmith!

Try to follow Thrilly Bob Thornton on this very simple journey:

-Beat writers read message boards (they do_
-They contact their sources to chase leads
-Smoke
-Fire
-The alleged insider info surfaces on Twitter

You might believe it is laughable, ludicrous, leviticus, litigious, linsane but the internet is a powerful machine.



jordan raanan must love all those juicy tid-bits Slade has been dropping him. no wonder the giants are such a mess..



Jordan is a great guy and an ethical writer. He might remember when someone on BBI posted a false rumor deliberately "just to see if it would enter the news cycle" ... and it did!!

One of the newspapers picked it up and the poster later confessed to the chicanery. Bad journalism is obviously a factor in the proliferation of leaks .



Not asking to out anyone but is there any legs to this?
RE: DaddyM is part right...  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/14/2018 5:53 pm : link
In comment 13866004 Milton said:
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It's a three-team trade in which the Bills get the #2 pick and Ereck Flowers, the Giants get the #3 pick and #53 overall and the Colts get a ton of picks from the Bills.

The Browns take Darnold
The Bills take Allen
The Giants take Rosen
The Browns take Barkley
The Broncos take Mayfield

Ohh, a Milton double feature - trade Flowers AND get Rosen! Why not make it a five team trade which also results in the Yankees getting Gerrit Cole so you can get all of your obsessions into one post?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: hahaha.  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/14/2018 6:03 pm : link
In comment 13866028 LarmerTJR said:
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I don't really care what Daddy's source thinks. That's between them.

I also don't care if you have been posting since Al Gore created the internet. You sound like an ass. Your posts add no value, and it is compounded by your moronic use of the English language. We understand how SOME internet rumors start. We get your point. If you don't like the thread, leave it. That's my point


Moronic? Please explain. Thrill Allen/Peterson always accepts notes.

And I love this thread. I thought you and I were becoming bro's, bro. You accepted my eccentric verbosity, I forgave you for being 160 lbs of skinny fat loser. Bro's.
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