We will use this as a discussion thread to keep the SELECTIONS thread uncluttered. These threads will be used for the duration of the entire draft.
Once a team is on the clock, they will have two hours to make a selection. If a team goes on the clock after 4pm, their two hour window will roll over to the next day. For example, if you go on the clock at 4:30pm, you will have until 9:30 am to make a selection. Picks may be made between 6pm and 9am if GMs are online and following the draft thread. The time limit only applies during the 9am to 6pm timeframe. If the two hour time limit expires, I will make a pick using any list that the GM for the team has sent me in advance (send lists to the email address in my profile) or in the absence of a list, I will use the GBN Big Board with a little discretion so as not make an obvious dumb pick (i.e.: Philadelphia Eagles wont be taking a QB in the 1st round this year). If a GM misses two consecutive picks without providing a prospect list or making some form of contact with me (email or posting on the draft thread) the spot will be reassigned to one of the BBIers who have expressed an interest to fill the vacancy.
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BBI Mock Draft Spreadsheet . The spreadsheet contains the draft order (RD1-6) by team and GM with a fairly comprehensive list of both available and taken prospects based on the GBN Big Board (as well as several other prospects that did not make the GBN Big Board). I will try to keep the spreadsheet and thread updated as often as possible.
Nak!!! Good to see you back around these parts. Hope all is well with you.
Yes, unless they wish to change teams to an open team or do not sign up again for the following draft
Dont fuck this up
The Cowboys and Dez are supposed to meet soon to talk about his contract.
NFL best writers covering the Cowboys in Dallas think that Dez is going to get cut.
Very interesting. I doubt it will go that way in the actual draft, but that's what's great about our Mock. We can pick who we think is the best player whether it is the likely selection or not. Based solely on our judgement. Nice start.
but I'm here and will make my pick in a sec.
im predicting next 3 will be qbs
my guess
darnold
rosen
allen
chubb
nelson
TL/DR version: Good pick Lionheart. Well done.
I would have thought to get this ship righted, you make a strong stance on cementing the path by getting "your" guy for the future by taking the QB at one.
Let's see what they get at 4!
Sam Darnold, QB USC
Sam Darnold, QB USC
For the most part, I havent taken QBs with my first pick in these drafts and prefer value, having done pretty well with Carr and Watson in prior years.
Plus, with the acquisition of Taylor, the young passer doesnt need to start day one which gives us some added flexibility.
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Darnold isn't as good of a passer right now compared to the other two but I think that can be improved with coaching. His mobility, arm strength and leadership qualities make him an outstanding QB prospect but his development will be critical. I see a bust risk but I also see a chance of greatness.
Just curious...if you were allowed to trade after the CLE pick, would you have?
In real life, getting a franchise QB is so important I would have spent months collecting date and had a firm conclusion as to the best QB in the class and I would have stayed at #2 and picked him.
IRL, I think a trade-down is more likely, because the Giants seem to think Eli can rebound and give them two more good years. But that could be a smokescreen or just Plan 1A, with a quick transition to a rookie being Plan 1B.
For the most part, I havent taken QBs with my first pick in these drafts and prefer value, having done pretty well with Carr and Watson in prior years.
Plus, with the acquisition of Taylor, the young passer doesnt need to start day one which gives us some added flexibility.
Great analysis. And if you do not love any of the QB's, he's the no brainer. Barkley is so good and such a rare talent, he is going to shine. This could actually play out really well for CLE in this mock depending on what happens at 4. Could possibly get Allen and he could have been the guy you wanted out of the QB's. Especially Taylor giving him some breathing room to learn.
I prefer Rosen on tape by a good margin, but of course personality and injury concerns I can't answer
For the most part, I havent taken QBs with my first pick in these drafts and prefer value, having done pretty well with Carr and Watson in prior years.
Plus, with the acquisition of Taylor, the young passer doesnt need to start day one which gives us some added flexibility.
25 years since Cleveland has had a franchise QB. TWENTY-FIVE YEARS! And you take a RB. If Dorsey does that he'll be run out of town, I truly believe that. TWENTY-FIVE YEARS, I'll say it again, you cannot go any other direction than QB there if you're Cleveland. And the franchise QB they had was just Bernie Kosar. Come on, dude. Cleveland fans would be egging your car as you leave the stadium!
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Barkley is in another tier than any of them and will be such a big help to whatever young qb we acquire that we couldnt pass. Hes a great kid, a tireless worker and oh yeah a physical freak. He makes our offense better day one.
For the most part, I havent taken QBs with my first pick in these drafts and prefer value, having done pretty well with Carr and Watson in prior years.
Plus, with the acquisition of Taylor, the young passer doesnt need to start day one which gives us some added flexibility.
25 years since Cleveland has had a franchise QB. TWENTY-FIVE YEARS! And you take a RB. If Dorsey does that he'll be run out of town, I truly believe that. TWENTY-FIVE YEARS, I'll say it again, you cannot go any other direction than QB there if you're Cleveland. And the franchise QB they had was just Bernie Kosar. Come on, dude. Cleveland fans would be egging your car as you leave the stadium!
Unfortunately for them, my track record as their fake GM has been better than their actual track record. Also, a QB doesn't have to be the first overall pick to be a franchise guy. They had 3 first round picks last year and didn't take a QB with a single one of them and survived, I think I'll be okay.
You sir are crazy.
No trades in the mock draft.
Jon was probably trying to figure out how to announce it like Pete Rozelle during the 1983 Draft!
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If the Giants select Darnold I predict Webb will clearly beat him out and it will leave the Giants with a mess. There will pressure to elevate Darnold anyway because he is a #2 pick. Webb is more accurate, especially deep, and takes better care of the football. IMO opinion, only Rosen or Mayfield beat out Webb in a QB competition.
You sir are crazy.
How do you rank them and why?
Thanks in advance.
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If the Giants select Darnold I predict Webb will clearly beat him out and it will leave the Giants with a mess. There will pressure to elevate Darnold anyway because he is a #2 pick. Webb is more accurate, especially deep, and takes better care of the football. IMO opinion, only Rosen or Mayfield beat out Webb in a QB competition.
You sir are crazy.
We will see. Webb has a much better arm than Darnold. Produced a better a season than Darnold ever has and his measurables are better. He also has spent an entire season working with the receivers, that matters.
Webb also played in an Air Raid offense, that produces high volume of yardage. Darnold does not.
Good comp. Haven't heard Matt Ryan as a comp to Rosen, but almost exact build (6-4 218 range), limited mobility and good, accurate arm. Both come from big programs. Although, I think their personalities are quite far apart, their talent and build is certainly similar.
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If the Giants select Darnold I predict Webb will clearly beat him out and it will leave the Giants with a mess. There will pressure to elevate Darnold anyway because he is a #2 pick. Webb is more accurate, especially deep, and takes better care of the football. IMO opinion, only Rosen or Mayfield beat out Webb in a QB competition.
You sir are crazy.
We will see. Webb has a much better arm than Darnold. Produced a better a season than Darnold ever has and his measurables are better. He also has spent an entire season working with the receivers, that matters.
How much work do you think he got with the WR's as the #3 QB. There are precious few snaps in limited practices during the season that are reserved for the top two QB's. Webb most likely received the majority of his snaps on the scout team.
BTW Webb does not have a much better arm that Darnold. His college stats don't matter as Webb was playing in a much simpler offense that greatly inflated his stats. The entire scouting community disagrees with your assessment.
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thing about Rosen to me, is that all of his knocks have nothing to do with him throwing the football. If he can stay healthy and out of the media, he should be a very good pro. I'm thinking Matt Ryan-esque, which is definitely worth the no. 3 pick.
Good comp. Haven't heard Matt Ryan as a comp to Rosen, but almost exact build (6-4 218 range), limited mobility and good, accurate arm. Both come from big programs. Although, I think their personalities are quite far apart, their talent and build is certainly similar.
The height/weight may be similar, but Rosen always seems to get hurt when he gets hit. That does not happen with QB's like Ryan or Eli Manning. If he cannot withstand hits from college players, what is going to happen in the NFL?
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thing about Rosen to me, is that all of his knocks have nothing to do with him throwing the football. If he can stay healthy and out of the media, he should be a very good pro. I'm thinking Matt Ryan-esque, which is definitely worth the no. 3 pick.
Good comp. Haven't heard Matt Ryan as a comp to Rosen, but almost exact build (6-4 218 range), limited mobility and good, accurate arm. Both come from big programs. Although, I think their personalities are quite far apart, their talent and build is certainly similar.
The height/weight may be similar, but Rosen always seems to get hurt when he gets hit. That does not happen with QB's like Ryan or Eli Manning. If he cannot withstand hits from college players, what is going to happen in the NFL?
I think his height/weight and talent in general is similar- accuracy, arm strength, mobility. In terms of his durability, I don't think there are many on BBI that can be confident in that. If it weren't for his past histories and durability concerns, he is the no brainer at #1.
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well if I could, I'd trade down right now - but I can't - so I need to look things over before I make my pick
I'd also like to think there is less than a zero percent chance the Browns draft Mayfield after the Manziel debacle (regardless of whether that is fair to Mayfield or not)
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In comment 13896664 Thegratefulhead said:
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If the Giants select Darnold I predict Webb will clearly beat him out and it will leave the Giants with a mess. There will pressure to elevate Darnold anyway because he is a #2 pick. Webb is more accurate, especially deep, and takes better care of the football. IMO opinion, only Rosen or Mayfield beat out Webb in a QB competition.
You sir are crazy.
We will see. Webb has a much better arm than Darnold. Produced a better a season than Darnold ever has and his measurables are better. He also has spent an entire season working with the receivers, that matters.
How much work do you think he got with the WR's as the #3 QB. There are precious few snaps in limited practices during the season that are reserved for the top two QB's. Webb most likely received the majority of his snaps on the scout team.
BTW Webb does not have a much better arm that Darnold. His college stats don't matter as Webb was playing in a much simpler offense that greatly inflated his stats. The entire scouting community disagrees with your assessment.
Nelson makes the entire offensive line better and will help both the run and pass game.
Dave Te said on his podcast that the Browns would probably take Baker Mayfield or Allen because because of scrambeling ability. He said you basically dont bring in a Taylor and not bring in someone who has a similar style of play because they both have to play in the system.
Can you explain why Webb was a 3rd round pick and Darnold is the consensus #1 overall pick then? This is a pretty ridiculous assessment.
My pick is not for a little bit, but I am torn on what to do. I have my eye on two player. One many on-line prognosticators have already predicted as the best pick for Green Bay. The other is one who I really like, but most project as an early 2nd round pick. He fits a need pretty much on the button, but need picks can kill a team. What do you say, if he is there and the first one is gone, do you take the player you like even though most on-line experts don't project his value as being worthy of a mid-first round pick?
Whoa. Looking forward to this explanation, Jay
Jay what your reasoning?
Recently invested a top pick in Winston and although nothing spectacular so far, he is still young and has shown glimpses. Bucs have a ton of holes lacking premium talent at almost every position.
Over the past year I have serious doubts with Winston as the franchise QB. Allen goes to a perfect spot where he can sit for a year or two. Best case scenario is that both prove to be franchise guys then I will trade one for a bounty.
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Be ready for a shock.
Jay what your reasoning?
Recently invested a top pick in Winston and although nothing spectacular so far, he is still young and has shown glimpses. Bucs have a ton of holes lacking premium talent at almost every position.
They did draft O.J. Howard and just signed Cameron Brate to a large contract
Over the past year I have serious doubts with Winston as the franchise QB. Allen goes to a perfect spot where he can sit for a year or two. Best case scenario is that both prove to be franchise guys then I will trade one for a bounty.
I think Buffalo would have traded up with you in this case, if it were the real draft.
Thanks for ruining the draft. I might as well take a punter and kicker with my first rd picks.
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I am fully prepared for it.
Thanks for ruining the draft. I might as well take a punter and kicker with my first rd picks.
Al Davis is reincarnated?
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But I wasn't expecting Allen to be there as I was hoping for Chubb or Nelson.
Over the past year I have serious doubts with Winston as the franchise QB. Allen goes to a perfect spot where he can sit for a year or two. Best case scenario is that both prove to be franchise guys then I will trade one for a bounty.
I think Buffalo would have traded up with you in this case, if it were the real draft.
Absolutely they would have!!!
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I am fully prepared for it.
Thanks for ruining the draft. I might as well take a punter and kicker with my first rd picks.
You better be complaining about a RB being taken first then. No way Cleveland goes anything but QB #1... Not going to happen.
Yeah, there are never any surprises in nfl drafts, riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhttttt
this would be pretty boring exercise if we just cut and pasted of mel kiper's big board.
take who you want, everyone else can disagree, but the "never's" are so freaking stupid
Yeah, there are never any surprises in nfl drafts, riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhttttt
this would be pretty boring exercise if we just cut and pasted of mel kiper's big board.
take who you want, everyone else can disagree, but the "never's" are so freaking stupid
Exactly. The BBI draft is not beholden to anyone. So if under the circumstances, you feel this is the move you need to make, then don't hesitate. None of it counts in the grand scheme of things. However, providing a good justification is still a must. I think.
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team x would "never" take so and so there, or player x would "never" go at a certain spot.
Yeah, there are never any surprises in nfl drafts, riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhttttt
this would be pretty boring exercise if we just cut and pasted of mel kiper's big board.
take who you want, everyone else can disagree, but the "never's" are so freaking stupid
Exactly. The BBI draft is not beholden to anyone. So if under the circumstances, you feel this is the move you need to make, then don't hesitate. None of it counts in the grand scheme of things. However, providing a good justification is still a must. I think.
Yes. which Jay and Lionheart both did.
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team x would "never" take so and so there, or player x would "never" go at a certain spot.
Yeah, there are never any surprises in nfl drafts, riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhttttt
this would be pretty boring exercise if we just cut and pasted of mel kiper's big board.
take who you want, everyone else can disagree, but the "never's" are so freaking stupid
Exactly. The BBI draft is not beholden to anyone. So if under the circumstances, you feel this is the move you need to make, then don't hesitate. None of it counts in the grand scheme of things. However, providing a good justification is still a must. I think.
I agree and I think he did that. I mean Winston is a mess and isn't someone I would want leading my franchise. You get what is going to be most likely the #1 player taken in this draft and sit for a year. You can then trade Winston for a nice big haul next year and you have a much better face of your franchise if you ask me.
known by whom Jay? Also, the allies are landing at Pas de Calais...
Exactly. The BBI draft is not beholden to anyone. So if under the circumstances, you feel this is the move you need to make, then don't hesitate. None of it counts in the grand scheme of things. However, providing a good justification is still a must. I think.
I think I did justify the pick. I don't think Winston is the right guy to lead this franchise. Sure he has the talent to be a great QB but I don't think he is mentally tough enough and the off the field concerns are real IMO. I wasn't expecting this reaction lol.
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This is for fun. Of course they wouldn't take Allen but then again there is no chance that the Browns take Barkley 1st overall. It is known that they have narrowed down the first pick to Allen and Darnold.
known by whom Jay? Also, the allies are landing at Pas de Calais...
It was reported the past two weeks. They have narrowed it down to Allen and Darnold. Even Hue Jackson said they were taking a QB at 1.
Could happen.
It isn't like Winston has set the league on fire and trading him now with some value might be better than if he continues to fail and there's no value.
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Exactly. The BBI draft is not beholden to anyone. So if under the circumstances, you feel this is the move you need to make, then don't hesitate. None of it counts in the grand scheme of things. However, providing a good justification is still a must. I think.
I think I did justify the pick. I don't think Winston is the right guy to lead this franchise. Sure he has the talent to be a great QB but I don't think he is mentally tough enough and the off the field concerns are real IMO. I wasn't expecting this reaction lol.
I agree. Your justification is a perfect example of what I am talking about. By the way, it was so good, that it made me think hmm, he could be onto something. The Bucs could very well do something that unexpected if the chips fall this way. Its things like this that make the mock draft fun and entertaining. Also, it spurs debate which is good too.
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This is for fun. Of course they wouldn't take Allen but then again there is no chance that the Browns take Barkley 1st overall. It is known that they have narrowed down the first pick to Allen and Darnold.
known by whom Jay? Also, the allies are landing at Pas de Calais...
It was reported the past two weeks. They have narrowed it down to Allen and Darnold. Even Hue Jackson said they were taking a QB at 1.
Jay, c'mon, listen to yourself. "it was reported" "hue jackson said..." no chance he's not telling the truth right?
Yes
Just very very unlikely that they select allen. If there is demand there for allen they obviously trade. but for purposes of this mock they need secondary help
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In comment 13896961 Jay on the Island said:
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This is for fun. Of course they wouldn't take Allen but then again there is no chance that the Browns take Barkley 1st overall. It is known that they have narrowed down the first pick to Allen and Darnold.
known by whom Jay? Also, the allies are landing at Pas de Calais...
It was reported the past two weeks. They have narrowed it down to Allen and Darnold. Even Hue Jackson said they were taking a QB at 1.
Jay, c'mon, listen to yourself. "it was reported" "hue jackson said..." no chance he's not telling the truth right?
zero chance Cleveland passes on taking their top choice at QB. Won't happen especially when they will have to take their 3rd best QB if they don't. Just won't happen so not sure why you are arguing they would do anything but take QB #1.
Very good pick. I am a huge fan of Smith.
I liked him a lot as well. Was on my short list of realistic options for the Ravens when I was doing my internal mock drafts in preparation for BBI Draft
I think the clearest way this pick makes a lot of sense is if part of the plan is trading Winston for a future pick. For the purposes of the mock it doesn't matter what that return is and it's not at all an unrealistic move (CLE gave up a 2nd for Tyrod Taylor). Someone would give up a decent 2019 pick for him and it would be an interesting move for the Bucs to make if they unexpectedly had a chance to take a top tier QB prospect.
His quickness is amazing. They way he reads plays I am a big fan.
Could happen.
It isn't like Winston has set the league on fire and trading him now with some value might be better than if he continues to fail and there's no value.
It's not farfetched, but I can't see that happening. It seems like Licht and management are willing to fire Koetter than give up on Jameis. I'm sure Koetter would prefer Allen to Jameis, but I'm not sure ownership and management will.
I probably would have taken Derwin James Jr. if I were you, but if you see Josh Allen as a franchise QB and a potentially better player than Winston, you should take Allen.
He also has Desean Jackson, Cameron Brate, and OJ Howard. It's not like he has no talent on offense. Their tackles are solid but they have a need at guard.
Winston went 6-10 his rookie season. He was 9-7 his second year.
Part of the reason I am ready to move on. He didn't take the next step in year 3, got into two separate sideline incidents, and then the uber incident. I don't want to trust the future of my franchise on this guy when I can take a chance on a risk but talented Allen.
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correct...my bad. Which is also weird that he didn't make the jump in the 3rd year...but again...the team is just so bad
Part of the reason I am ready to move on. He didn't take the next step in year 3, got into two separate sideline incidents, and then the uber incident. I don't want to trust the future of my franchise on this guy when I can take a chance on a risk but talented Allen.
It is a well thought out pick and if you could trade Winston before camp opens, I like Allen's risk/reward over what we already know about Winston. I find it very difficult to imagine Winston becoming a top tier QB. I can't say the same about Allen yet, but he does possess the physical tools to do so. I'd take the chance on Allen over Winston and the deal breaker is the maturity issues and his decision making on the field, which has not progressed.
Question is what is the return on Winston. If Buffalo does not come away with a QB, I could see them throwing a ton their way.
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correct...my bad. Which is also weird that he didn't make the jump in the 3rd year...but again...the team is just so bad
Part of the reason I am ready to move on. He didn't take the next step in year 3, got into two separate sideline incidents, and then the uber incident. I don't want to trust the future of my franchise on this guy when I can take a chance on a risk but talented Allen.
It is a well thought out pick and if you could trade Winston before camp opens, I like Allen's risk/reward over what we already know about Winston. I find it very difficult to imagine Winston becoming a top tier QB. I can't say the same about Allen yet, but he does possess the physical tools to do so. I'd take the chance on Allen over Winston and the deal breaker is the maturity issues and his decision making on the field, which has not progressed.
Question is what is the return on Winston. If Buffalo does not come away with a QB, I could see them throwing a ton their way.
I could see them offering the 22nd and a 2nd.
Winston on 2 years of rookie contract
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Allen on 5 years of rookie contract
...is, to me, no choice at all. You go with Allen. And I'm saying this as a guy who is not a huge fan of his. But Winston is a known quantity, and that quantity is not something you pay a second contract to.
Your entitled to your opinion but what if Allen becomes the next Elway? What if Fitzpatrick busts?
Yup. Flying under the radar a bit as a top prospect. On BBI, I get it, he is not one of the top few targets. For the class in general, I don't get it. I would think the impact Earl Thomas, Berry, Collins, ect have on their defenses he would be talked about more. He does everything, is a team leader and a great talent to help rebuild a defense.
If the Bucs did not go Allen, this is who I would have chosen.
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Minkah Fitzpatrick getting picked by the Bears. He was someone I was hoping to fall to the Raiders as I think he is a really good fit for what I wanted and needed. Then again he is so versatile he could fit any Defense.
Yup. Flying under the radar a bit as a top prospect. On BBI, I get it, he is not one of the top few targets. For the class in general, I don't get it. I would think the impact Earl Thomas, Berry, Collins, ect have on their defenses he would be talked about more. He does everything, is a team leader and a great talent to help rebuild a defense.
If the Bucs did not go Allen, this is who I would have chosen.
I wanted Chubb but once he went right before me I was torn between Allen and Fitzpatrick.
Edmunds is an absolute freak, at 6-foot-5 he is fully capable of covering big-bodied tight ends down the middle of the field. He has even shown the ability to run downfield with running backs in one-on-one coverage. He will be ready to contribute come day one of the 2018 season.
Damn. I was hoping that he'd fall to me at 16
Yeah, there are never any surprises in nfl drafts, riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhttttt
this would be pretty boring exercise if we just cut and pasted of mel kiper's big board.
take who you want, everyone else can disagree, but the "never's" are so freaking stupid
To be fair Hue Jackson already said they are going QB at #1.
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team x would "never" take so and so there, or player x would "never" go at a certain spot.
Yeah, there are never any surprises in nfl drafts, riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhttttt
this would be pretty boring exercise if we just cut and pasted of mel kiper's big board.
take who you want, everyone else can disagree, but the "never's" are so freaking stupid
To be fair Hue Jackson already said they are going QB at #1.
In this war room, Hue Jackson doesn't call the shots. Lionhart does. ;)
I don't see it at all with Winston, and he's a guy I liked coming out of FSU. If I'm Tampa's GM by now I've made the choice of whether or not I'm interested in paying Winston that big second contract. I would not be, and thus I'd look to trade him and pick a replacement in this draft. At least I'm keeping the QB position at the rookie wage scale, and I'm probably not losing much from what I have now. Conversely, if Allen pans out it would be a huge upgrade...I'd be better at QB, have a better long term cap picture, and have whatever I got back for Winston in trade.
That Winston was a first rounder three years ago shouldn't matter. That's a sunk cost that, I would think, wouldn't inform future decision making.
The Bucs have Jameis Winston, why would they waste a pick on Allen. They already have a young starting QB. Bad choice.
Skins really need several positions, those two linebackers that went just ahead of us would have really helped, but Davenport has enormous talent, so we're glad to have him
Chubb has had a better college career and is a great prospect, but I really think Davenport has a better frame, and could end up the better pro.
I'm not sore. Because Jaire Alexander is a pretty nice consolation prize. And fits a need too, so I have that going for me. Which is nice. I realize picking Alexander is a big risk considering his injury history, but I feel he has top ten potential when healthy. If he meets that potential, the Cheeseheads are going to be very happy.
I was awake until my time, then ?I just couldn't stay awake anymore.
I was awake until my time, then ?I just couldn't stay awake anymore.
Unfortunately with the number of picks made subsequently and the real possibility that at least one would have taken Ward I believe it is
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I'm 8 hours away from you guys. I wanted Vita Vea, the DT out of Washington. Is it too late?
I was awake until my time, then ?I just couldn't stay awake anymore.
Unfortunately with the number of picks made subsequently and the real possibility that at least one would have taken Ward I believe it is
I understand. For the record, my email address is marwan_ali77@yahoo.com
Didn't want to reach for an offensive tackle.
Yeah, I was hoping he would drop to me at 20 at this point. Can't believe he lasted that long.
I know Vea would have been Miami's selection had he not been auto-selected due to missing 2 hour window. He was one of the five on my list from which I chose Landry. Considering Arizona went for Payne, Vea was probably on DC's list as well.
SEA beat you to it! Not surprised to see Connor Williams go at this point as, after Nelson, there are a number of OL who carry late Round 1 grades. The exact order they go in real life will depend on how they fit individual schemes IMHO
If not you put Ridley on opposite side of Dez replacing Williams. More weapons on offense.
Defense will be addressed in next several rounds.
If not you put Ridley on opposite side of Dez replacing Williams. More weapons on offense.
Defense will be addressed in next several rounds.
Ridley was #2 on my list (Vea was #3). Baltimore has a lot of ties to Alabama and definitely has a need at WR even after FA signings, but I guess I let Sy talk me out of it by showing that there was enough depth at the position that I could try to fill a different need where there was less depth first
Never poke the beast
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Damn you.
Never poke the beast
I'm already over it. Good pick, YAJ. <sigh>
Have one guy in mind in particular. Hope he falls!
I agree... McGlinchey is getting over shadowed by Nelson, but he is a really good LT. I think he is definitely the best in this draft and think he will be solid for years.
Personally not a fan of McGlinchey. Too many times against better opponents he reminded me of Ereck Flowers. As I posted earlier, we are seeing the run of OL that I anticipated in the latter part of Round 1
FMiC if we get through pick 23 before 4 PM your time will expire before 6 PM so you might want to e-mail a list if you have to leave
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I think McGlinchey is going in the top 15 on draft day. That's a steal.
Personally not a fan of McGlinchey. Too many times against better opponents he reminded me of Ereck Flowers. As I posted earlier, we are seeing the run of OL that I anticipated in the latter part of Round 1
You can have doubts about McGlinchy, but he should not in anyway remind you of Ereck Flowers. Completely different player.
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I think McGlinchey is going in the top 15 on draft day. That's a steal.
I agree... McGlinchey is getting over shadowed by Nelson, but he is a really good LT. I think he is definitely the best in this draft and think he will be solid for years.
McGlinchey is a great pick.
Yes. LT and LG
If he has 3 years like that you are talking about him going higher than 26. Risk is he can't shed blockers well enough but bare minimum I think he is a guy that will make plays in space and be a top flight coverage backer.
Lol. We are all amateur drafters here. Andy has no affiliation with the Giants. QBs went Rosen-Mayfield-Allen. Rosen viewed as #2 QB in this draft.
btw - slow start today, let's get this thing going!
Round 1
1. Cleveland (Lionhart28) - Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
2. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) - Sam Darnold, QB, USC
3. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) (from Ind) - Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
4. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Hou) - Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
5. Denver (jlukes) - Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame
6. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ) - Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State
7. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
8. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama
9. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech
10. Oakland (Amtoft) - Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia
11. Miami (Optimus-NY) - Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State auto selection
12. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Cin) - Derwin James, S, Florida State
13. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio
14. Green Bay (MadPlaid) - Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville
15. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Da'Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
16. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Harold Landry, DE/OLB, Boston College
17. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Vita Vea, DT, Washington
18. Seattle (sjnyfan) - Connor Williams, OT, Texas
19. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
20. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia
21. Cincinnati (Matt G) (from Buf) - Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame
22. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from KC) - Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville
23. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) - Arden Key, DE, LSU
24. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Justin Reid, S, Stanford
25. Tennessee (NYG27) - Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist
26. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Leighton Vander Esch, OLB, Boise State
27. New Orleans (Saos1n) - Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida
28. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) - On the clock
29. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
30. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
31. New England (Torrag)
32. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
Round 2
33. Cleveland (Lionhart28)
34. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax)
35. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Hou)
36. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
37. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ)
38. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
39. Chicago (bigbluehoya)
40. Denver (jlukes) (jlukes)
41. Oakland (Amtoft)
42. Miami (Optimus-NY)
43. New England (Torrag) (from SF)
44. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir)
45. Green Bay (MadPlaid)
46. Cincinnati (Matt G)
47. Arizona (DCPollaro)
48. L.A. Chargers (armstead98)
49. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ, Sea)
50. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
51. Detroit (YAJ2112)
52. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
53. Buffalo (superspynyg)
54. Kansas City (English Alaister)
55. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
56. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from LAR)
57. Tennessee (NYG27)
58. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (NoGainDayne)
59. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from N.O.)
60. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore)
61. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
62. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
63. New England (Torrag)
64. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Phi)
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I wanted to see which qb Giants were going to take - Allen or Rosen.
Also, I would not have drafted Allen in the first round. Obviously, he wasn't lasting to the second round but that's the only pick he'd be on my radar.
btw - slow start today, let's get this thing going!
Since we have had weekends before where 0 picks have been made, doing the math we will need to average slightly more than 14.5 picks per day in order to finish on April 20, the Friday before the draft (obviously, the more productive this is on weekends that brings down the average). User search shows that Pittsburgh was on BBI this morning but obviously did not make a pick in the Selection thread. Pittsburgh has until 11 AM then they will likely be awarded Derius Guice because he is the best player on the board and with Bell's contract demands and suspension issues I am not sure it can be said that it is so unreasonable that we must skip him.
What would a BBI Mock Draft be without those, especially for Jacksonville's GM, or the kick in the nuts .jpg?
I was hoping Lamar Jackson would slip to me at the pick, but sadly he went to Buffalo!
I was hoping Lamar Jackson would slip to me at the pick, but sadly he went to Buffalo!
Dodged a bullet. Evans is a great pick. Was on the short list for me at #30 for Minnesota.
Will Hernandez is the pick to make the Jags running game even better. With the Norwell signing and now with Hernandez replacing Cann, the Jags will hopefully have the best offensive line in the NFL for years to come.
Will Hernandez is the pick to make the Jags running game even better. With the Norwell signing and now with Hernandez replacing Cann, the Jags will hopefully have the best offensive line in the NFL for years to come.
Makes sense. There are still two players who jump out at me if either are on the board for the Giants
Andy nice job at #2 overall. Darnold is the guy.
Will Hernandez is the pick to make the Jags running game even better. With the Norwell signing and now with Hernandez replacing Cann, the Jags will hopefully have the best offensive line in the NFL for years to come.
Kevin. Not cool. That was going to be my pick. Now I have to debate between 3 guys. Give me about 20 minutes.
No worries, I feel like Josh Jackson is a pretty damn good alternative. Adding Josh Jackson to a secondary with Xavier Rhodes and Harrison Smith...with Mackensie Alexander coming into his own, I'm going to put the best 3 corners on the field. Trae Waynes has been a bit of a disappointment, but I'm building a no-fly zone in the land of the thousand lakes. A great defense getting greater.
He is a monster that can move. Dave Te' Thomas said it has been 17 YEARS since he has scouted an offensive lineman with double digit knock down blocks per game. The last guy who did that...Walter freaking Jones. Will Hernandez did that last year with 10.33. He plays every game, and the only real question I had was if he is with his movement, because it's hard to believe a man that large can move as well as he does, but he really does. He is not just a run-blocking mauler, he can pass block as well, and he has strength in spades to anchor as well as the feet and base to disrupt quicker pass rushers.
37 bench press reps at the combine, and there may not really be much of a drop-off from Quenton Nelson and Hernandez. I feel like if he played at a big program, he'd go in the top 15.
Back to Josh Jackson...he has a little edge to him, he's smart, good at press or off, and tremendous ball skills. I think he's a big-time competitor, and his competitiveness is what won me over on him over a couple of other options.
If you're not adding gifs to your selection, I'm just gonna assume it was bad pick.
I agree. Obviously, Matt is really busy, and is unable to post Torrag's pick. Too bad he didn't share it with one of us for just this contingency.
Current scene inside the Giants war room:
Current scene inside the Giants war room:
The two names at the top of my board after the Hernandez pick are still there
I'm actually not sure what the hell I'm going to do. I'm not used to having this many picks...normally Indy trades them away.
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especially by Go Terps.
I'm actually not sure what the hell I'm going to do. I'm not used to having this many picks...normally Indy trades them away.
Kid in a candy store? Take a little bit of everything, maybe?
Gotta think OL here, no? I don't see a crazy value at another position that'd make me wait on a hog molly...
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Although I think Todd McShay may like one choice moore than the other
Gotta think OL here, no? I don't see a crazy value at another position that'd make me wait on a hog molly...
One can reasonably debate whether the other player is crazy value at 34
Lots of separate sources making comparisons to Watt, albeit far less consistent. Browns already have some great talent outside on the DL, time to add someone next to Larry O.
I love Hurst too, but you can't teach this kids size and athleticism.
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nobody expected that much from him. This kid has some very similar talents, and I can see why people make that comparison. Who knows if he'll live up to that, but he looks great
I love Hurst too, but you can't teach this kids size and athleticism.
You can have both since you are now on the clock! If Andy wanted a Hog Molly there was a different direction I would have gone
Speaking of trading up, there is one player I would love to trade up for right now if I were the Ravens in real life (alas no trading in Mock Draft)
The same was said about Aaron Gibson
Sorry. Which one?
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Sorry. Which one?
Both were in my Top 10. Michel was in my Top 3
The other guy on my board was the only other player I had left with a 1st round grade. Really surprised he hasn't been picked yet.
Haha, Im not even sure what to think about this post. I mean, if youre asleep now, how were you able to post this message on BBI? Posting on BBI in your sleep, now thats dedication!
Hunter Henry went at pick 35, Adam Shaheen at 45, so taking Goedert at 44 feels like fair value to me.
I think Hunter Henry is a good comparison, but I would have hopes he could get closer to that Kelce level. He'll need to get stronger and more physical, I'd only call him a willing blocker now, but Dakota used him on those option draws, set him out wide for fades at the goal-line, used him on screens, all the types of things we've seen Kelce excel at in the league.
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But I know its my turn. Ill pick while you're all asleep before 9 am NY time. Don't worry. Its 3:24 am now where I am. Ill pick at around 10 am my time, which will be 2 am NY time.
Haha, Im not even sure what to think about this post. I mean, if youre asleep now, how were you able to post this message on BBI? Posting on BBI in your sleep, now thats dedication!
LOL BBS. I'm reading what I wrote now and am just a=shaking my head and laughing to myself at work. WTF? Haha!
I cannot believe he did either. Had Denver not got Nelson in the first Daniels was the easy pick in the 2nd.
Daniels is likely a first round pick in a few weeks
Ha Ha. Grummble grumble
Well, as SirYesSir has pointed out, Hubbard is not Davenport. Maybe the PSU OL were thinking that and totally dismissed him? Big mistake!
I liked what I read about Hubbard from the draft evaporators. Solid all around player, tough against the run. In rotation with other DL and Ends in Green Bay, he should really do well. As a consolation prize for having missed out on Davenport, I'm happy.
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Thats a weak gif, Hubbard is totally unblocked by that nonsense PSU OL! Great pick though ;)
Well, as SirYesSir has pointed out, Hubbard is not Davenport. Maybe the PSU OL were thinking that and totally dismissed him? Big mistake!
I liked what I read about Hubbard from the draft evaporators. Solid all around player, tough against the run. In rotation with other DL and Ends in Green Bay, he should really do well. As a consolation prize for having missed out on Davenport, I'm happy.
That Hubbard highlight isn't that bad, he's only unblocked because the pulling lineman couldn't get there in time, Hubbard really flew in there. He looks like he could be a TJ Watt type of player
Kolton Miller in the 2nd. The worry with Miller was until 2017 he hadn't stayed clean enough in the health department. Nothing catastrophic just missed time. He stayed on the field in 2017 and that combined with his good tape, athletic ability and a nice physique for the position made him the choice. Also bolsters a position hit hard in free agency.
No need to apologize. An hour is not that long at this time of the day. When we have to start having MadPlaid send out the bat signal then it is an issue!
Tough choice between Phillips and Malik Jefferson from Texas.
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Thats a weak gif, Hubbard is totally unblocked by that nonsense PSU OL! Great pick though ;)
Well, as SirYesSir has pointed out, Hubbard is not Davenport. Maybe the PSU OL were thinking that and totally dismissed him? Big mistake!
I liked what I read about Hubbard from the draft evaporators. Solid all around player, tough against the run. In rotation with other DL and Ends in Green Bay, he should really do well. As a consolation prize for having missed out on Davenport, I'm happy.
That Hubbard highlight isn't that bad, he's only unblocked because the pulling lineman couldn't get there in time, Hubbard really flew in there. He looks like he could be a TJ Watt type of player
That pulling lineman is slow-footed Steven Gonzalez (Penn State alum here) and any scheme that tells him to pull, especially against the likes of that athletic OSU DL is crap. That said, Hubbard is a really good player. Not spectacular at anything but a guy who can contribute day one and will be a long-time starter in the NFL.
I struggled with this pick. Harrison fills a need and seems to have a high floor. Maybe not as high of a ceiling as some of the DBs or another safety that were available.
Came away with two physical defensive players who can start right away so happy with the first two picks.
Nice pick, Mike. I was very tempted to select him over Hubbard mainly because of Sy's write up. He glowingly reviewed Miller and even compared him to Antonio Brown. With that kind of endorsement, I wanted him in Green Bay, but alas I decided to go another way.
Maybe if you ever invited me to one of your poker games I might have let him slide past
If EA does not show up I suggest skipping over D.J. Chark because they spent a lot on WR's in Free Agency and already have Hill, Kelce, Hunt in that offense. Lorenzo Carter is next on the list and fills a much bigger need.
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If EA does not show up I suggest skipping over D.J. Chark because they spent a lot on WR's in Free Agency and already have Hill, Kelce, Hunt in that offense. Lorenzo Carter is next on the list and fills a much bigger need.
Makes sense to me... Can someone post the pick when the clock expires... I'm running to a meeting
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If EA does not show up I suggest skipping over D.J. Chark because they spent a lot on WR's in Free Agency and already have Hill, Kelce, Hunt in that offense. Lorenzo Carter is next on the list and fills a much bigger need.
Makes sense to me... Can someone post the pick when the clock expires... I'm running to a meeting
KC ended up selecting before time expired. Currently Tennessee is on the clock
Hey, don't be thinking of taking over my thing! Call outs rule!
I had my eye on Oliver as well, and if things had played out differently, I would have likely picked him for my 2.
Nice pick up, YAJ
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looking hard at Oliver, but that asswipe YAJ swooped in!
I had my eye on Oliver as well, and if things had played out differently, I would have likely picked him for my 2.
Nice pick up, YAJ
He was on my short list as well but I knew I would end up with one of the 2 WR at the top of my list
I actually had to do a little homework because Oliver was in play when I took Josh Jackson in the first round. I thought Jackson was the better player, but Oliver made me think about it.
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I liked Oliver so much, I almost went CB two rounds in a row. I only didn't do it because I thought it would be neglecting other areas of need just to add a lot of talent to one position. Not a good move in the long run I thought.
I actually had to do a little homework because Oliver was in play when I took Josh Jackson in the first round. I thought Jackson was the better player, but Oliver made me think about it.
If Jackson was there at 33, he was the pick. Love that guy. Oliver has been in my top ten since the beginning of the round as well.
No, EA came and selected Malik Jefferson before his clock expired
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No, EA came and selected Malik Jefferson before his clock expired
Gotcha. Yup, I think it's going to be auto-pick time here.
Ha, NYG27 picked the autopick. Go figure.
Ha, NYG27 picked the autopick. Go figure.
I had him as my top pick since the early 40's and was hoping he dropped. I thought he was already drafted and was researching my next pick but after a second glance, I saw he was still on the board.
Screw you Lionhart! You get all the good picks every year!
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banter and discussion this year, or is that just me? I mean, there hasn't been a single Amtoft rant yet and it makes me sad.
Screw you Lionhart! You get all the good picks every year!
Well if makes you feel any better, Davis was one of 3 players I've been looking at for 20+ picks.
I knew you were, I just figured you'd appreciate sniping one of my guys haha
1. Cleveland (Lionhart28) - Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
2. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) - Sam Darnold, QB, USC
3. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) (from Ind) - Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
4. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Hou) - Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
5. Denver (jlukes) - Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame
6. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ) - Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State
7. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
8. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama
9. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech
10. Oakland (Amtoft) - Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia
11. Miami (Optimus-NY) - Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State auto selection
12. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Cin) Derwin James, S, Florida State
13. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio
14. Green Bay (MadPlaid) - Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville
15. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Da'Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
16. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Harold Landry, DE/OLB, Boston College
17. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Vita Vea, DT, Washington
18. Seattle (sjnyfan) - Connor Williams, OT, Texas
19. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
20. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia
21. Cincinnati (Matt G) (from Buf) - Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame
22. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from KC) - Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville
23. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) - Arden Key, DE, LSU
24. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Justin Reid, S, Stanford
25. Tennessee (NYG27) - Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist
26. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Leighton Vander Esch, OLB, Boise State
27. New Orleans (Saos1n) - Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida
28. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) - Rashaan Evans, ILB, Alabama
29. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - Will Hernandez, OG, Texas-El Paso
30. Minnesota (Allstarjim) - Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
31. New England (Torrag) - Derrius Guice, RB, LSU
32. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) - Ronald Jones, RB, USC
Round 2
33. Cleveland (Lionhart28) - Taven Bryan, DT, Florida
34. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) - Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma
35. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Hou) - Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon
36. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Sony Michel, RB, Georgia
37. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ) - D.J. Moore, WR, Maryland
38. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Donte Jackson, CB, LSU
39. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Michael Gallup, WR, Colorado State
40. Denver (jlukes) - Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina
41. Oakland (Amtoft) - Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan
42. Miami (Optimus-NY) - Billy Price, C, Ohio State
43. New England (Torrag) (from SF) - Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA
44. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State
45. Green Bay (MadPlaid) - Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State
46. Cincinnati (Matt G) - James Daniels, C, Iowa
47. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
48. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Ronnie Harrison, S, Alabama
49. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ, Sea) - Martinas Rankin, OT, Mississippi State
50. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford
51. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado
52. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis
53. Buffalo (superspynyg) - Braden Smith, OG, Auburn
54. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Malik Jefferson, ILB, Texas
55. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State
56. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from LAR) - Equanimeous St.Brown, WR, Notre Dame
57. Tennessee (NYG27) - Lorenzo Carter, OLB, Georgia
58. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (NoGainDayne) - Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn
59. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from N.O.) - Austin Corbett, OG, Nevada
60. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) - On the clock
61. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
62. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
63. New England (Torrag)
64. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Phi)
Round 3
65. Buffalo (superspynyg) Bills (from Cle)
66. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax)
67. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
68. Houston (Boatie Warrant)
69. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.)
70. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Chi)
71. Denver (jlukes)
72. New York Jets (Jon in NYC)
73. Miami (Optimus-NY)
74. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)
75. Oakland (Amtoft)
76. Green Bay (MadPlaid)
77. Cincinnati (Matt G)
78. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from Was)
79. Arizona (DCPollaro)
80. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Sea)
81. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
82. Detroit (YAJ2112)
83. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
84. L.A. Chargers (armstead98)
85. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)(from Buf)
86. Kansas City (English Alaister)
87. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT)
88. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
89. Tennessee (NYG27)
90. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (NoGainDayne)
91. New Orleans (Saos1n)
92. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore)
93. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
94. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
95. New England (Torrag)
96. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Phi)
97. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory)
98. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (compensatory)
99. Denver (jlukes) (compensatory)
100. Cincinnati (Matt G) (compensatory)
Based on the player rankings, Bates, Chubb, Uchenna Nwosu would all make sense. No CBs rated that highly right now...
Big Ben has been threatening to retire almost every year. Rudolph has a great arm, and now has the luxury of sitting behind a future hall of famer to learn the nuances of the NFL game.
Pittsburgh has developed a few backup QBs in the past that have filled in nicely for Ben. Mason will have an opportunity to be the guy in the future.
I chose a QB in last years draft for the same reason, but since Pittsburgh didn't do this last season, I find myself once again picking one up.
Big Ben has been threatening to retire almost every year. Rudolph has a great arm, and now has the luxury of sitting behind a future hall of famer to learn the nuances of the NFL game.
Pittsburgh has developed a few backup QBs in the past that have filled in nicely for Ben. Mason will have an opportunity to be the guy in the future.
I chose a QB in last years draft for the same reason, but since Pittsburgh didn't do this last season, I find myself once again picking one up.
Don't worry BBDtS, I have to draft a QB every year for Cleveland.
Side not: made myself laugh when I looked to see who picked next and saw it was Kevin in CT. All I could hear in my head was the Mom from Home Alone "KEVIN!"
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Agree. If Pittsburgh had a lower second round draft pick it probably would have been a different pick all together, but at end of the round, there isn't a huge difference between it being 2nd or early 3rd round pick.
Again I think he has a great toolset. I hate the system he comes from, I have faith in the Pitt coaches to coach him up. They have a good track record for doing so.
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Agree. If Pittsburgh had a lower second round draft pick it probably would have been a different pick all together, but at end of the round, there isn't a huge difference between it being 2nd or early 3rd round pick.
Again I think he has a great toolset. I hate the system he comes from, I have faith in the Pitt coaches to coach him up. They have a good track record for doing so.
By all reports, he's got his head screwed on right as well. I think he could be a player.
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I do not think he is that far off the "top four" QB's in this draft, but can be had later
Agree. If Pittsburgh had a lower second round draft pick it probably would have been a different pick all together, but at end of the round, there isn't a huge difference between it being 2nd or early 3rd round pick.
Again I think he has a great toolset. I hate the system he comes from, I have faith in the Pitt coaches to coach him up. They have a good track record for doing so.
By all reports, he's got his head screwed on right as well. I think he could be a player.
If Rudolph was in a pro-system in college, I think he would be considered 1st round talent. He just is going to take some grooming of at minimum a year. Pitt can do that and maybe more.
If Ben bails, then its going to be trial by fire, at which point I will either be drafting pretty high or I would have secured my QB of the future with a 2nd rounder!
Pretty happy he landed here for the Jags.
He also fits a need as the Vikings needed a OG. I'm either going to slot Ragnow right in at OG or I'm going to move Elflein over to OG, either way, I've once again solidified this line for Dalvin Cook and Kirk Cousins.
Ragnow is mean and nasty, and many experts have him over Billy Price who went much earlier. In the real draft, I would love him to find his way onto the Giants in the 2nd or 3rd round. Rags played four years with the Razorbacks, 2,603 snaps, allowed just 35 pressures and 0 sacks. And he is nasty in the run game, too.
He also fits a need as the Vikings needed a OG. I'm either going to slot Ragnow right in at OG or I'm going to move Elflein over to OG, either way, I've once again solidified this line for Dalvin Cook and Kirk Cousins.
Ragnow is mean and nasty, and many experts have him over Billy Price who went much earlier. In the real draft, I would love him to find his way onto the Giants in the 2nd or 3rd round. Rags played four years with the Razorbacks, 2,603 snaps, allowed just 35 pressures and 0 sacks. And he is nasty in the run game, too.
If he didn't get injured early and miss most of the year he would be going higher than this. This is actually a good draft with centers and Ragnow is someone I am hoping falls to one of our two 3rd rounders... Good pick.
Pats could really use Chark after trading their deep threat this week.
His projections are all over the place. From sneaking into the late first round to fifth round, from what I've seen. All I know is that pass rushers are at a premium and I think some team falls in love with him and he goes in the 2nd. Honestly, I almost took him over Bryan at 33.
Yeah I'd have rathered someone safer like Crosby, Daniels or Price if OL was the pick.
I'm gonna guess Chubb is the pick. He matches from a need/value standpoint.
If it were me Josey Jewell or Tim Settle would probably be the pick. Maybe Anthony Averett or Jessie Bates. A lot of DB depth though so I'd feel pretty good about waiting until the 4th round.
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At a wide variety of positions. Still don't like the 2nd Round selection, but that is just me.
Yeah I'd have rathered someone safer like Crosby, Daniels or Price if OL was the pick.
I'm gonna guess Chubb is the pick. He matches from a need/value standpoint.
If it were me Josey Jewell or Tim Settle would probably be the pick. Maybe Anthony Averett or Jessie Bates. A lot of DB depth though so I'd feel pretty good about waiting until the 4th round.
Also Kerryon Johnson at RB, WR D.J. Chark, OLB Kemoko Turay to name a few
James Washington, Deontay Burnett
D'Shawn Hand, Derek Nnandi
Mason Cole
Well at least he's got all weekend now. As a Giants fan, assuming we've taken a QB and an OL, with the depth at WR, I am thinking front 7 with this pick.
That's a great pick. O'Neill will not contribute year one but he has good starting LT upside. I am hoping he falls to the Giants in round 3.
Because we were following the rules. Can't start making special exceptions
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But I think O'Niell has the most upside of the Tackles in this area. He needs to add weight but it is hard to teach the foot speed he has at the position.
That's a great pick. O'Neill will not contribute year one but he has good starting LT upside. I am hoping he falls to the Giants in round 3.
Not that it would change his draft status a whole lot since he wont be a high pick, but O'Neil also had some off the field issues and at least one suspension.
I sent Matt a board of two people, i see now that Penny went already but my other guy was still there.
We can just start making special exceptions and tweaking the rules as we go. Time expired and a pick was made for you, just like it would have been for anyone else. You are back on the clock, so go ahead and make your pick
Maybe he is rightfully waiting for Matt to confirm he had another player in his board. I wouldnt pick either until this is resolved but if you send a board you are good IMO
1. Rashaad Penny
2. The one handed LB
Maybe i fucked up and they were both taken?
1. Rashaad Penny
2. The one handed LB
Maybe i fucked up and they were both taken?
#2 was there. #1 was off the board. You are on the clock again so take Shaqueem with your last pick and make second one now and Chark back into pool
1. Rashaad Penny
2. The one handed LB
Maybe i fucked up and they were both taken?
Griffin was not taken. Go ahead and announce the corrected pick in the selection thread (clark goes back on the draft board) and then make your next selection
I actually agree. Hes got great feet to go with the power. I see him as a slightly better, more powerful Mark Ingram.
Mayock quote about Hill
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1. Rashaad Penny
2. The one handed LB
Maybe i fucked up and they were both
taken?
You selected a one handed LB while Uchenna Nwosu was still available? Underwhelming.
Round 2
33. Cleveland (Lionhart28) - Taven Bryan, DT, Florida
34. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) - Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma
35. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Hou) - Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon
36. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Sony Michel, RB, Georgia
37. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ) - D.J. Moore, WR, Maryland
38. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Donte Jackson, CB, LSU
39. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Michael Gallup, WR, Colorado State
40. Denver (jlukes) - Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina
41. Oakland (Amtoft) - Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan
42. Miami (Optimus-NY) - Billy Price, C, Ohio State
43. New England (Torrag) (from SF) - Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA
44. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State
45. Green Bay (MadPlaid) - Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State
46. Cincinnati (Matt G) - James Daniels, C, Iowa
47. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
48. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Ronnie Harrison, S, Alabama
49. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ, Sea) - Martinas Rankin, OT, Mississippi State
50. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford
51. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado
52. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis
53. Buffalo (superspynyg) - Braden Smith, OG, Auburn
54. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Malik Jefferson, ILB, Texas
55. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State
56. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from LAR) - Equanimeous St.Brown, WR, Notre Dame
57. Tennessee (NYG27) - Lorenzo Carter, OLB, Georgia
58. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (NoGainDayne) - Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn
59. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from N.O.) - Austin Corbett, OG, Nevada
60. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) - Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State
61. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - Rasheem Green, DE, Southern California
62. Minnesota (Allstarjim) - Frank Ragnow, C, Arkansas
63. New England (Torrag) - Kevin Toliver, CB, LSU
64. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Phi) - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, OLB, Oklahoma
Round 3
65. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Cle) - Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State
66. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) Shaquem Griffin, OLB, Central Florida
67. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Geron Christian, OT, Louisville
68. Houston (Boatie Warrant) - Brian O'Neill, OT, Pittsburgh
69. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.) - Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn
70. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Chi) - Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia
71. Denver (jlukes) - Kemoko Turay, OLB, Rutgers
72. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) - Dane Pettis, WR, Washington
73. Miami (Optimus-NY) - B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State
74. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - On the clock
75. Oakland (Amtoft)
76. Green Bay (MadPlaid)
77. Cincinnati (Matt G)
78. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from Was)
79. Arizona (DCPollaro)
80. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Sea)
81. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
82. Detroit (YAJ2112)
83. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
84. L.A. Chargers (armstead98)
85. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)(from Buf)
86. Kansas City (English Alaister)
87. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT)
88. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
89. Tennessee (NYG27)
90. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (NoGainDayne)
91. New Orleans (Saos1n)
92. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore)
93. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
94. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
95. New England (Torrag)
96. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Phi)
97. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory)
98. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (compensatory)
99. Denver (jlukes) (compensatory)
100. Cincinnati (Matt G) (compensatory)
Thanks!
Agreed. I am glad Andy in Halifax is not our GM. His last three picks are horrible. Remote control throwing and TV breaker quality. Absolutely, horrendous.
Thanks!
Thanks Jon
I love your picks better. I will replace Turay with Uchenna Nwosu, a true kicka$$ 3 - 4 linebacker, though.
Can we vote him out as GM for next year. Give him Dallas Buffalo or Clev
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Can we vote him out as GM for next year. Give him Dallas Buffalo or Clev
No, we will not be voting out Andy because you guys don't like his picks this year. He's making the choices he feels are the best. He's done very well for the Giants in the BBI Mock Draft over the years, so he is entitled to the benefit of doubt. Cut the guy some slack.
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Can we vote him out as GM for next year. Give him Dallas Buffalo or Clev
Seconded. He has been worst than Reese/Ross over the years. I know it is make believe, but he is killing me. SMH
Matt G., we need a new Giant's GM next year. Seriously.☹😞
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Can we vote him out as GM for next year. Give him Dallas Buffalo or Clev
Seconded. He has been worst than Reese/Ross over the years. I know it is make believe, but he is killing me. SMH
Matt G., we need a new Giant's GM next year. Seriously.☹😞
Excuse me, dk, but are you a GM in the Mock Draft? You are not, so you don't get a say in this. Or in other words, STFU!
Can we vote him out as GM for next year. Give him Dallas Buffalo or Clev
How about he keeps the Giants and we give him Buffalo? Dick.
He has been brutal for a long time. He is clueless. We need a new GM. Reese/Ross have been fired and Andy in Halifax is still our GM.
His brutal picks takes the joy away from this make-believe BBI draft.
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He has been brutal for a long time. He is clueless. We need a new GM. Reese/Ross have been fired and Andy in Halifax is still our GM.
His brutal picks takes the joy away from this make-believe BBI draft.
You've gotta chill. No need to antagonize.
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He has been brutal for a long time. He is clueless. We need a new GM. Reese/Ross have been fired and Andy in Halifax is still our GM.
His brutal picks takes the joy away from this make-believe BBI draft.
Who fucking asked you? Who the fuck are you? Bullshit! Andy has been great, and you are a fuckwit who doesn't know his ass from his elbow. Pissoff!
If you dont Like it stay off the mock draft threads.
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Who fucking asked you? Who the fuck are you? Bullshit! Andy has been great, and you are a fuckwit who doesn't know his ass from his elbow. Pissoff!
How old are you? Are you capable of making a single statement without resorting to obscenity?
"Obscenity is the last resort of the inarticulate....." You get the point.
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He will remain the Giants GM in our mock draft for as long as he likes.
Who fucking asked you? Who the fuck are you? Bullshit! Andy has been great, and you are a fuckwit who doesn't know his ass from his elbow. Pissoff!
How old are you? Are you capable of making a single statement without resorting to obscenity?
"Obscenity is the last resort of the inarticulate....." You get the point.
Excuse me if an out of line ingrate has made me angry. I resorted to profanity to emphasize my displeasure at your unwelcome assault on my friend. You think you have a say in this matter. You don't. Your opinion was not asked for and holds absolutely no weight in this matter. So pardon me if I express myself by saying you can go eat a bag of dicks.
I am not interested in pissing contests with "good old boys" or shreeling foul mouths.
Let's make this draft better.
I got errands to run. 🤗
Seriously, time to re-evaluate your priorities.
And I agree that Andy has done a great job over the years, he does his homework. There's a lot of pressure making the pick for the Giants in this mock. Nobody cares more than a quick snide remark if the Chargers or Titans or Cardinals reach for a player. Andy is going to hear it endlessly from anyone with different opinions, which is probably 90% of the board on each pick. I applaud him for putting up with it.
And again, just like I've railed against people saying "team x would NEVER take that guy" or "team x is DEFINITELY taking a QB" for not allowing for draft surprises, it's even more true that none of us know how a draft will turn out, and won't for several years.
If you don't like Andy's mid-round picks, great. It in no way means he's wrong, and there is zero chance for you to prove he is for a long long time. so with all that, shut up.
My bad sorry... I had a board for my second round pick a Maurice Hurst, James Washington, Nick Chubb,... then a tier down Jessie Bates 4th... So while I am happy to get Jessie Bates here in the 3rd round to miss out on James Washington who I love (and is my favorite WR in the draft) and Nick Chubb who I love going one pick and 5 picks both by San Francisco sucks! James Washington is a stud. People don't like him as much because he looks like a RB playing WR and he is a stud WR make no mistake. Chubb's injury hurt his stock but 4 years ago I thought he was better than Fournette. He started ahead of Sony Michel for a reason. He is a stud and as he continues to feel comfortable on his knee he will be even better.
Oh yeah Bates is good also. Good range and instincts but has tackling issues. I think he is one of the best cover safeties in the draft and will continue to grow. Hopefully his tackling gets a little better.
Exactly. I may have kept Darnold as first pick, followed by Daniels, Chubb, and Turay, but that does not mean people have to be a dick about it
In my opinion, value and need merged rather nicely here. Green Bay is in the market for deep threat wideouts, and Chark is that in a word. He was under utilized in LSU as they are primarily a run first program. With the Packers, he's going to see the ball. Plus, he is finally working with a good QB after a few years of less than talent at LSU.
Was tempted to go in a different direction, but Chark really was the best option at this point in the draft.
In my opinion, value and need merged rather nicely here. Green Bay is in the market for deep threat wideouts, and Chark is that in a word. He was under utilized in LSU as they are primarily a run first program. With the Packers, he's going to see the ball. Plus, he is finally working with a good QB after a few years of less than talent at LSU.
Was tempted to go in a different direction, but Chark really was the best option at this point in the draft.
He was this year's Curtis Samuel!
And I agree that Andy has done a great job over the years, he does his homework. There's a lot of pressure making the pick for the Giants in this mock. Nobody cares more than a quick snide remark if the Chargers or Titans or Cardinals reach for a player. Andy is going to hear it endlessly from anyone with different opinions, which is probably 90% of the board on each pick. I applaud him for putting up with it.
And again, just like I've railed against people saying "team x would NEVER take that guy" or "team x is DEFINITELY taking a QB" for not allowing for draft surprises, it's even more true that none of us know how a draft will turn out, and won't for several years.
If you don't like Andy's mid-round picks, great. It in no way means he's wrong, and there is zero chance for you to prove he is for a long long time. so with all that, shut up.
Well said.
Now complaints about the drafting. News flash people. The exercise is seeing who is there when they pick. The Giants don't get to keep these players.
Sure, if you want to take your pitchforks out for asshats, not sure why you care, but whatever. Some of their motives could be questioned. But when that kind of behavior seeps into calling for a mock draft GMs head, insanity. All the GMs do this for fun but it also provides a benefit to the community. There should be some respect paid to both of those motivations, otherwise, what do we have? A Youtube message board?
This year's crop of haters need to brush up their game though, nobody rips me with as much flair and pizazz as Amtoft. BBB comes close with his subtlety and finess yet sharp bite.
At one point I made a roster with my drafted players and it was pretty good. My OL, DL and linebackers were legit elite units. RB's were good despite a couple misses. I had decent WR's but no stars. I don't draft CBs well at all it seems and I struggle in round 2, I may have to re-assess how I evaluate in that range.
Price
S Griffin
N Chubb
If it falls like our mock, those are the 4 I'd take
Makes sense. He was on my short list
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Makes sense. He was on my short list
Baltimore is up. Lions go with a TE after passing on Gesicki earlier.
For now, thank you for providing your devoted critics with ample material this year. I'm sure there is some method to your madness. Perhaps the medical staff can use some of Orlando Brown's adipose tissue to construct a prosthetic hand for Shaquem Griffin.
Pshhh. Are you suggesting you know Ozzie Newsomes thinking? How many picks have you predicted of the Ravens? Im surprised you still have a mock job
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Pshhh. Are you suggesting you know Ozzie Newsomes thinking? How many picks have you predicted of the Ravens? Im surprised you still have a mock job
I think I have done well. I did draft Urban and I accurately predicted Brandon Williams down to pick number
Good selection there.
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Ozzie Newsome loves to select players from his alma mater, University of Alabama. Being that this is his final draft I had to get at least one Crimson Tide player. Brent Urban only signed for one year so figured I would add a longer term option
Pshhh. Are you suggesting you know Ozzie Newsomes thinking? How many picks have you predicted of the Ravens? Im surprised you still have a mock job
I think I have done well. I did draft Urban and I accurately predicted Brandon Williams down to pick number
Lol I am not sure if you know I was joking?
Welcome to the Good Old Boys and Shreeling Foul Mouths Club.
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Ozzie Newsome loves to select players from his alma mater, University of Alabama. Being that this is his final draft I had to get at least one Crimson Tide player. Brent Urban only signed for one year so figured I would add a longer term option
Pshhh. Are you suggesting you know Ozzie Newsomes thinking? How many picks have you predicted of the Ravens? Im surprised you still have a mock job
I think I have done well. I did draft Urban and I accurately predicted Brandon Williams down to pick number
Lol I am not sure if you know I was joking?
Having fun with you too!
I have a knack for getting people to show up by threatening the autopick result
Marcus Allen is a little limited in his coverage skills but man can he play down hill and physical football. Also a great leader and locker room guy. He will make a day one impact on special teams. I could see him playing a hybrid safety/lb role in the NFL.
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Blake Bortles replacement. This is a guy who could go earlier in the draft. Happy he was here for us. I contemplated Mike White from WKU as well but went with a guy who I think will have a shot to be a starter in this league.
Damn you
I had a feeling that you might have wanted him for the Broncos. Hopefully Mike White is still there for you!
Had I gone a different direction in Round 1 and ignored edge rusher in Round 2 I probably would have drafted Sweat at 83. Not sure which I like more - Ridley/???/Sweat or Landry/Miller/Hand
Perhaps you can just e-mail Matt and see. I would but I have to enter another meeting
Yup. Kind of get the feeling a real GM must encounter when stuck in this kind of conundrum.
Yeah it sucks. I loved the way he played the game. Super reliable on the field.
I chose Josey Jewell here because he's a play maker who manages to almost always be in the right place at the right time. I kept reading glowing evaluations about his ability to recognize plays and placing himself in the best possible position to make the tackle or turnover. Some of the gifs on-line are crazy. Picking off deflections in the backfield, being in the right place in zone coverage to intercept a rushed pass or in the gif I posted, where he split two OL to blow up a screen pass. Reminded me of a play in the 2007 playoffs against these here Packers. I'm certain they recall it too. Ha!
Green Bay needs play makers on the D in a big way. ILB wasn't necessarily a need position, but the defense really is in short supply on guys like Jewell who can make things happen. I think for a someone at the top of the 4th Round, this was a good pick-up.
Rd 1 QB Lamar Jackson Lou
Rd 2 OG Braden Smith Aub
Rd 2 WR E St Brown ND
Rd 3 RB Rashaad Penny SDSU
Rd 3 CB Duke Dawson FLA
I am very happy. Going into this draft I listed QB,WR,OL and CB as needs
I got a huge playmaking S. A good RG who will start day 1, I am putting faith in Jackson but he will not play this year unless we are tanking. St Brown is a big wr who will add to a the talents of Benjamin and Zay Jones. CB depth was a concern. I added a guy who could be a nice slot this year. Penny as a backup to McCoy is great. McCoy is getting up in years. Penny could be his replacement in a year or two,
Thank you, Andy. Everything I read about him made me want him. Even though I had other guys I liked and were probably more of a need, I couldn't pass him up. I just knew Jewell was going to get snatched up if I didn't take him. I guess he was one of those guys GM's identify as a want, and they just take him; not sweating the needs of other positions.
By the way, I had my eye on Shaquem Griffin. I was hoping he would fall to my pick in the 3rd Round. He's going to be something special. One hand or not. Good pick up.
thanks.
Yeah, Saquon vs. Josey was impressive. I saw one gif where Barkley juked Jewell out of his socks. Not a good look on him. But then I saw another one where Jewell caught Barkley after a short pass, shy of the first down. Nice open field tackle on his own. Very happy to have made this selection.
Round 3
65. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Cle) - Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State
66. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) Shaquem Griffin, OLB, Central Florida
67. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Geron Christian, OT, Louisville
68. Houston (Boatie Warrant) - Brian O'Neill, OT, Pittsburgh
69. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.) - Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn
70. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Chi) - Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia
71. Denver (jlukes) - Kemoko Turay, OLB, Rutgers
72. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) - Dante Pettis, WR, Washington
73. Miami (Optimus-NY) - B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State
74. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - James Washington WR Oklahoma State
75. Oakland (Amtoft) - Jessie Bates, S, Wake Forest
76. Green Bay (MadPlaid) - D.J. Chark, WR, LSU
77. Cincinnati (Matt G) - Nathan Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays State
78. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from Was) Tim Settle, DT, Virginia Tech
79. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Darius Leonard, ILB, South Carolina State
80. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Sea) Uchenna Nwosu, OLB, USC
81. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Micah Kiser, ILB, Virginia
82. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma
83. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Da'Shawn Hand, DE, Alabama
84. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Armani Watts, FS, Texas A&M
85. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)(from Buf) - Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama
86. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Deon Cain, WR, Clemson
87. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) - Mason Cole, C, Michigan
88. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State
89. Tennessee (NYG27) - Duke Ejiofor, DE, Wake Forest
90. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Kyzir White, SS, West Virginia
91. New Orleans (Saos1n) - Simmie Cobbs, WR, Indiana
92. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) - Marcus Allen, FS, Penn State
93. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond
94. Minnesota (Allstarjim) - Josh Sweat, DE, Florida State
95. New England (Torrag) - Luke Falk, QB, Washington State
96. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Phi) - Duke Dawson, CB, Florida
97. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory) - Mike White, QB, Western Kentucky
98. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (compensatory) - Nyheim Hines, RB, North Carolina State
99. Denver (jlukes) (compensatory) - MJ Stewart, CB, North Carolina
100. Cincinnati (Matt G) (compensatory) - Ade Aruna, DE, Tulane
Round 4
101. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (from Cle) - Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa
102. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from NYG) - On the clock
103. Houston (Boatie Warrant)
104. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
105. Chicago (bigbluehoya)
106. Denver (jlukes)
107. New York Jets (Jon in NYC)
108. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.)
109. Denver (jlukes) (from SF)
110. Oakland (Amtoft)
111. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from Mia)
112. Cincinnati (Matt G)
113. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir)
114. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from G.B.)
115. Chicago (bigbluehoya) (from Ari)
116. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
117. Detroit (YAJ2112)
118. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
119. L.A. Chargers (armstead98)
120. Seattle (sjnyfan)
121. Buffalo (superspynyg)
122. Kansas City (English Alaister)
123. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from Cle, Car)
124. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from LAR)
125. Tennessee (NYG27)
126. Atlanta (NoGainDayne)
127. New Orleans (Saos1n)
128. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Pit)
129. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
130. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Min)
131. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from N.E.)
132. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
133. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
134. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory)
135. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from NYG) (comp)
136. New England (Torrag) (compensatory)
137. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)
Round 2 - Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis
Round 3 - Da'shawn Hand, 5T, Alabama
Overall I like how I have done. Still have names on my short list for the third round pick still on the board
Thanks, feeling like this is near a best case scenario for Minnesota seeing as they are picking near the end of every round.
Another guy who is high on my list, would have been my 3rd rounder if not for the off the field issues. I probably wouldnt have taken him until the fifth, but quite a physical talent.
#6 - DE Bradley Chubb
#36 - RB Sony Michel (Sy'56 score = 81)
#37 - WR DJ Moore (80)
#49 - OG/C - Martinas Rankin (82)
#67 - OT Geron Christian (76)
#104 - OG/C - Skyler Phillips (77)
Had to give Reich something to work with on the offensive line. Getting three versatile guys is a start.
#45: Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State
#76: D.J. Chark, WR, LSU
#101: Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa
I was looking to find players to improve the Pack's D, and I believe I have got them. However, I think I could have done better. I think I reached with Alexander when I probably would have been better served to have taken Harold Landry, OLB. I was torn between these two, and I went with the DB because I wasn't confident I would find one as good later. As it turned out, one was their in Isaiah Oliver. I think Landry was the better value there in the first round. I panicked and took the need guy instead. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy to have selected Hubbard in the second, but I think total value, Landry/Oliver is better than Alexander/Hubbard.
My next two picks I think made up for my earlier SNAFU. Both were good picks and equal to the value for when I selected them. We can't always get it right, but it sure is fun trying.
#45: Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State
#76: D.J. Chark, WR, LSU
#101: Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa
I was looking to find players to improve the Pack's D, and I believe I have got them. However, I think I could have done better. I think I reached with Alexander when I probably would have been better served to have taken Harold Landry, OLB. I was torn between these two, and I went with the DB because I wasn't confident I would find one as good later. As it turned out, one was their in Isaiah Oliver. I think Landry was the better value there in the first round. I panicked and took the need guy instead. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy to have selected Hubbard in the second, but I think total value, Landry/Oliver is better than Alexander/Hubbard.
My next two picks I think made up for my earlier SNAFU. Both were good picks and equal to the value for when I selected them. We can't always get it right, but it sure is fun trying.
Thank you for leaving me Harold Landry at 16
Y'all won't like my next pick. But he won't be a UDFA like the guy jlukes just picked.
My favorite BBI mock draft feud was he and Amtoft. It was hilarious.
Y'all won't like my next pick. But he won't be a UDFA like the guy jlukes just picked.
You must be joking if you think Hamilton is going to be a UDFA. You may want to re-read SY's breakdown...
My favorite BBI mock draft feud was he and Amtoft. It was hilarious.
Travis Frederick versus Brian Schwenke! :)
Rd 3 #80 OLB Uchenna Nwosu USC
Rd 3 #98 Nyheim Hines RB NC State
Rd 4 #103 Holton Hill CB Texas
With not having a pick until the third round I believe this is a good haul of players in positions of need. ONeill will fill a major hole on Houstons O-line at RT. When Watson comes back he is going to need the protection. Nwosu adds to an already superior pass rushing Defense. Hines gives Houston a 3rd down back and possible return guy. I actually think this was a bigger need for Houston than is mentioned. Houston ranked 22nd in the league in 2017 on 3rd down conversion percentage with a 36% rate. Hill will compete for a starting position in Houstons backfield. He has the skills they just have to hope he can get his head straight.
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"In this job you deal with some really good guys and some not so good guys. He's one of the best. I think he goes undrafted, but I also think football is going to be a very small part of what he accomplishes in his life." -- AFC team regional scout
Fair enough. I've read more reports that say he is the best route runner in the draft than those that say he won't get drafted. He's a probably a slightly below average athlete for the position but the dude can play ball. He's made some very good defensive backs look silly with is route running savvy.
Rd 3 #80 OLB Uchenna Nwosu USC
Rd 3 #98 Nyheim Hines RB NC State
Rd 4 #103 Holton Hill CB Texas
With not having a pick until the third round I believe this is a good haul of players in positions of need. ONeill will fill a major hole on Houstons O-line at RT. When Watson comes back he is going to need the protection. Nwosu adds to an already superior pass rushing Defense. Hines gives Houston a 3rd down back and possible return guy. I actually think this was a bigger need for Houston than is mentioned. Houston ranked 22nd in the league in 2017 on 3rd down conversion percentage with a 36% rate. Hill will compete for a starting position in Houstons backfield. He has the skills they just have to hope he can get his head straight.
That's an impressive haul considering your lack of premium picks. Probably not a lot of instant starters, but definitely a lot of long-term talent. O'Neil is going to need to add a TON of strength to compete at RT. Some great special teams additions though too.
My favorite BBI mock draft feud was he and Amtoft. It was hilarious.
THE BAT SIGNAL WAS RAISED
Says the guy who drafted someone with one hand at the top of the 3rd round
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But I actually don't think that guy is very good though.
Says the guy who drafted someone with one hand at the top of the 3rd round
And a second rounder with enough extra fat to create an artifical hand for our 3rd roudner and still have some left over
Strike 2: PFF has this guy in their top 64 (i.e. top 2 rounds)
Strike 3: Does not appear (I don't think) on BBI favorite Sy'56 lists
So that's the trifecta for hate I would imagine. I think Boylhart is on crack again with a 1st round grade but I do think this guy is a 3rd-4th round guy and could be a good player.
Looking for a gif, pick will be up momentarily.
I see the Marshall comparison. Similar college careers too. By most accounts, Marshall was more athletic and polished.
Thanks, feeling like this is near a best case scenario for Minnesota seeing as they are picking near the end of every round.
Is that why he fell so far? I didn't know Sy didn't like him... Great news for me. He is still a little raw but great upside and with his size and length he has a chance to be really good.
I love Jewell. Great value there. A player I would love the Giants to draft in the 3rd.
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I was all set to take Jewell or Baker.
I love Jewell. Great value there. A player I would love the Giants to draft in the 3rd.
Absolutely. A guy Reese never would have taken, not tall enough, not fast enough. Just a good, tough, football player.
Love Teller as a physical guard, would be thrilled to see him in blue
Round 4
101. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (from Cle) - Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa
102. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from NYG) - Tony Brown, CB, Alabama auto selection
103. Houston (Boatie Warrant) - Holton Hill, CB, Texas
104. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Skyler Phillips, OG, Idaho State
105. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Dorance Armstrong, OLB, Kansas
106. Denver (jlukes) - DaeSean Hamilton, WR, Penn State
107. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) - Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
108. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.) - Marcel Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State
109. Denver (jlukes) (from SF) - Joseph Noteboom, OT, TCU
110. Oakland (Amtoft) - Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan
111. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from Mia) - Jerome Baker, OLB, Ohio State
112. Cincinnati (Matt G) - Antonio Callaway, WR, Florida
113. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech
114. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from G.B.) - On the clock
115. Chicago (bigbluehoya) (from Ari)
116. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
117. Detroit (YAJ2112)
118. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
119. L.A. Chargers (armstead98)
120. Seattle (sjnyfan)
121. Buffalo (superspynyg)
122. Kansas City (English Alaister)
123. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from Cle, Car)
124. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from LAR)
125. Tennessee (NYG27)
126. Atlanta (NoGainDayne)
127. New Orleans (Saos1n)
128. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Pit)
129. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
130. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Min)
131. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from N.E.)
132. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
133. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
134. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory)
135. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from NYG) (comp)
136. New England (Torrag) (compensatory)
137. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)
Yeah, or suffer the consequences of an Autopicked punter.
Matt, you should know better... ;)
1.4 - Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
2.33 - Taven Bryan, DL, Florida
2.35 - Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon
2.64 - Obo Okoronkwo, DE/OLB, Oklahoma
4.114 - Parry Nickerson, CB, Tulane
I, unlike many, really like Baker Mayfield as a player. I don't see any similarities to Johnny Manziel aside from his "swagger". He is very accurate, tough, athletic and a good leader on the field. We also added the best player in the draft in playmaker Saquon Barkley who is going to give us a lot of flexibility on offense. Crosby is a great athlete with good power who we hope can step in day 1 to replace Joe Thomas at LT. Taven Bryan is a little raw but an outstanding athlete. We intend to move him around the front to give Gregg Williams some real flexibility. Okoronkwo is a one-trick pony edge rusher right now, but he's really good at it. With his size, he could project to DE or stand up OLB, we'll figure that out as we go but we needed to add to the pass rush. Lastly, Nickerson is a little slight of frame but a tremendous athlete. He's fast, physical and a ball hawk. He'll be a great fit for the press coverage we'll want to run with a lot of our pressure packages.
He's scheduled by many as a 4th rounder, but to me he's better than that so I wanted to grab him now. After the first couple rounds I don't think anyone can really predict how high players will go, so if you like somebody you gotta grab 'em
Cowboys had him in for a private workout plus the 30 national visit. He is on the radar of multiple teams.
Alex Capps is now a Bill!!
Alex Capps is now a Bill!!
BBI Mock Draft is more important than a test! In all seriousness, nice pick with Cappa. When I mentioned that there were 3 names from my Round 3 list, one was Thomas, another was Cappa, and the third player is still on the board
Alex Capps is now a Bill!!
A test!? Likely story.
No worries. Hope you aced it. Like you just did with Cappa. I was really hoping hed make it to my 2nd 4th round pick.
Both may be sleeping by now!
KC and Miami both sent lists to Matt. No punter for them (unless he tops their lists)!
That is like saying someone is a really skinny sumo wrestler
Round 4
101. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (from Cle) - Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa
102. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from NYG) - Tony Brown, CB, Alabama auto selection
103. Houston (Boatie Warrant) - Holton Hill, CB, Texas
104. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Skyler Phillips, OG, Idaho State
105. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Dorance Armstrong, OLB, Kansas
106. Denver (jlukes) - DaeSean Hamilton, WR, Penn State
107. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) - Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
108. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.) - Marcel Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State
109. Denver (jlukes) (from SF) - Joseph Noteboom, OT, TCU
110. Oakland (Amtoft) - Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan
111. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from Mia) - Jerome Baker, OLB, Ohio State
112. Cincinnati (Matt G) - Antonio Callaway, WR, Florida
113. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech
114. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from G.B.) - Parry Nickerson, CB, Tulane
115. Chicago (bigbluehoya) (from Ari) - RJ McIntosh, DT, Miami
116. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Tavarius Moore, S, Southern Mississippi
117. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Trenton Thompson, DT, Georgia
118. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Ian Thomas, TE, Indiana
119. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama
120. Seattle (sjnyfan) - Tre'Quan Smith, WR, Central Florida
121. Buffalo (superspynyg) - Alex Cappa, OT, Humboldt State
122. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Breeland Speaks, DE, Mississippi
123. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from Cle, Car) - Jaylen Samuels, RB, North Carolina State
124. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from LAR) - Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford
125. Tennessee (NYG27) - Desmond Harrison, OT, West Georgia
126. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Chad Thomas, DE, Miami
127. New Orleans (Saos1n) - PJ Hall, DT, Sam Houston State
128. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Pit) - Jalyn Holmes, DE, Ohio State
129. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - On the clock
130. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Min)
131. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from N.E.)
132. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
133. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
134. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory)
135. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from NYG) (comp)
136. New England (Torrag) (compensatory)
137. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)
Round 5
138. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (from Cle)
139. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax)
140. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
141. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Hou)
142. Denver (jlukes)
143. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from NYJ)
144. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
145. Chicago (bigbluehoya)
146. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Oak)
147. New Orleans (Saos1n) (from Mia)
148. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) (from SF)
149. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir)
150. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from G.B.)
151. Cincinnati (Matt G)
152. Arizona (DCPollaro)
153. Detroit (YAJ2112)
154. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
155. L.A. Chargers (armstead98)
156. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Phi, Sea)
157. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) (from Dal)
158. Cincinnati (Matt G) (from Buf)
159. New England (Torrag) (from Cle, KC)
160. Denver (jlukes) (from LAR)
161. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
162. Tennessee (NYG27)
163. Denver (jlukes) (from Atl)
164. New Orleans (Saos1n)
165. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore)
166. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Jax)
167. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
168. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from N.E.)
169. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
170. Cincinnati (Matt G) (compensatory)
171. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)
172. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
173. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)
174. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
At least your 3 are grouped pretty close together, mine are at the start and end of the round. A lot can change between picks.
Who you calling "mongoes?" Mongo
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Who you calling "mongoes?" Mongo
Mike Francesa tries to explain to an old guy what mongo nation is - ( New Window )
lol dude. Too much big! You're up again tiger.
Arizona (DCPollaro) Da'Ron Payne DT Alabama
Arizona (DCPollaro) Christian Kirk WR Texas A&M
Arizona (DCPollaro) Darius Leonard ILB South Carolina State
Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory) Mike White QB Western Kentucky
Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory) Isaac Yiadom CB Boston College
Your replacement was also drafted previously, at pick #124
I'm going to be offline probably until around 6 or 7pm... Also, I'm out at an offsite all day tomorrow... I will try to check email, but if others can continue to help making sure the picks keep moving that would be a big help... Thanks!
Damn you, BigBlueTT
I'm going to be offline probably until around 6 or 7pm... Also, I'm out at an offsite all day tomorrow... I will try to check email, but if others can continue to help making sure the picks keep moving that would be a big help... Thanks!
I'd volunteer except my schedule looks a bit chaotic tomorrow, but maybe there is someone you can forward any boards you have for tomorrow and they can try to manage in your absence
I'll be around. You can send it to me.
As much as I would like to award someone a Punter, I do not think the Patriots would do that with Ryan Allen still around. Next guy up is Quin Blanding who makes sense
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As much as I would like to award someone a Punter, I do not think the Patriots would do that with Ryan Allen still around. Next guy up is Quin Blanding who makes sense
Haven't looked at his picks, but if he hasnt taken a S yet then he'd be the pick
Rashaan Gaulden is the pick. He has displayed excellent finger extension. Seemed like a good guy to have when you really need an unsportsmen like conduct penalty.
In all seriousness, solid defender who can play multiple roles, corner, safety or nickel. Apparently a very well liked teammate although has a propensity to allow emotions to get the better of him. Thus the bird trick v. Alabama.
Yep. 6 Rounds (plus up to 5 UDFA per team) provided it can be completed before draft day
Denver also only owns 149 and 160 in the 5th round
The rest belong to Washington.
Should we fix round 5 or just go with what's on the board?
Denver also only owns 149 and 160 in the 5th round
The rest belong to Washington.
Should we fix round 5 or just go with what's on the board?
All trades done after the thread is created do not get accounted for even if we have not gotten that far yet. That is why Brandin Cooks trade was not factored in. That is the policy of BBI Mock Draft. Otherwise it becomes too much work for Matt who graciously volunteers every year to coordinate.
Anyway, since it's easy to criticize, here's Andy's draft and what I might have done:
Sam Darnold QB USC (My Pick: Same or QB Josh Rosen - a tossup)
Orlando Brown OT Oklahoma (My pick: C/G Billy Price)
Shaquem Griffin OLB Central Florida (My pick: OLB Kemoko Turay)
Kerryon Johnson RB Auburn (My pick: RB Nick Chubb or WR D.J. Chark)
Marcel Ateman WR Oklahoma State (My pick: DE Breeland Speaks or OT Geron Christian)
Nick Nelson CB Wisconsin (My pick: Same or DT Derrick Nnadi)
Pretty similar overall. I'm not quite as much of a fence-swinger as Andy, and I think we need to add at least one two-handed pass-rusher.
That is why I picked Ridley in first round.
It will be an interesting day in Dallas.
Next name on the list is Derrick Nnadi and since Denver has not gone for a DT yet I am tempted to go with that as the autopick unless anyone has an objection.
Odd that jlukes hasn't popped in here to make his pick. He has been checking in regularly. Even early this morning.
Hopefully he checks in. He had an autopick last time around, so he making his own pick here is critical.
Now bigbluehoya is on the clock.
Hopefully he checks in. He had an autopick last time around, so he making his own pick here is critical.
He already picked!
BigBlueDownTheShore, Matt said he was going to be in the field today with limited access to e-mail. Perhaps e-mail MadPlaid your board
BBDTS, how about post on here your list? You only need to put 4 guys considering there are only 3 teams before you.
No worries. Glad you are feeling better.
My appendix burst a few weeks ago and I forgot I had a follow up cat scan this morning.
Autopicks blow
My appendix burst a few weeks ago and I forgot I had a follow up cat scan this morning.
Autopicks blow
They don't blow as much as appendices do! Feel better.
My appendix burst a few weeks ago and I forgot I had a follow up cat scan this morning.
Autopicks blow
Crap, that's crazy. Sorry to hear that, but very glad you are okay now. Yeah, I knew you wouldn't be too happy about the autopick. At least it was a guy who fits well with the Broncos.
I almost died.
Lost about 13% of my body weight. Finally eating normal and feeling almost 100%
I go in May 10th to have whats left of my appendix removed
I am really happy to hear that the snafu at the first hospital didn't cost you dearly. Sons of bitches.
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I don't see any more picks for Big Blue in 6 or 7.
Correct. You're done. I see you found another use for all that excess tissue on Orlando Brown: a new meniscus for Nick Nelson. Seriously, Nelson should be OK after surgery. He'd better be: the secondary needs immediate help.
Anyway, since it's easy to criticize, here's Andy's draft and what I might have done:
Sam Darnold QB USC (My Pick: Same or QB Josh Rosen - a tossup)
Orlando Brown OT Oklahoma (My pick: C/G Billy Price)
Shaquem Griffin OLB Central Florida (My pick: OLB Kemoko Turay)
Kerryon Johnson RB Auburn (My pick: RB Nick Chubb or WR D.J. Chark)
Marcel Ateman WR Oklahoma State (My pick: DE Breeland Speaks or OT Geron Christian)
Nick Nelson CB Wisconsin (My pick: Same or DT Derrick Nnadi)
Pretty similar overall. I'm not quite as much of a fence-swinger as Andy, and I think we need to add at least one two-handed pass-rusher.
Boylhart grades for my picks:
Darnold - 1.34
Brown - 1.49
Griffin - 2.33
Johnson - 1.69
Ateman - 1.89
Nelson - NR
I gather the first number is the round as that corresponds to his descriptions. Lower the number the better it seems. I've never been a big fan of Boylhart to be honest, so that does not bode well for my draft, lol.
1) Avonte Adams - CB - Pitt
2) Davontae Harris - CB - Illinois State
3) Tarvarus McFadden - CB - FSU
4) Mark Walton - RB - Miami
1) Avonte Adams - CB - Pitt
2) Davontae Harris - CB - Illinois State
3) Tarvarus McFadden - CB - FSU
4) Mark Walton - RB - Miami
Thank you. We will give you a few minutes to make your own selection when you turn comes up. If after about 15 minutes, you don't post, I will make certain to select your highest remaining guy. Best
Yes, that looks like a typo. Good catch. Thank you
The guy is an angry bulldozer.
The guy is an angry bulldozer.
Drafted #29 overall
I really like Fumagalli, good receiver despite missing fingers.
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Considering New Orleans just signed their P to a 5 year contract, Dickson doesn't quite make sense here. Second on the list is also a P! Next after that is Troy Fumagalli/TE/Wisconsin. Can't see a reason to bypass at this point since New Orleans has not mock drafted a TE. Open for discussion though.
I really like Fumagalli, good receiver despite missing fingers.
I don't think any P or K should be part of the auto draft.
Sorry, could not get autopick in fast enough! Maybe give Pittsburgh until 4 before we go from their posted list
Blame bigbluehoya... he took my guy lmao
Round 4
101. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (from Cle) - Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa
102. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from NYG) - Tony Brown, CB, Alabama auto selection
103. Houston (Boatie Warrant) - Holton Hill, CB, Texas
104. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Skyler Phillips, OG, Idaho State
105. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Dorance Armstrong, OLB, Kansas
106. Denver (jlukes) - DaeSean Hamilton, WR, Penn State
107. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) - Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
108. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.) - Marcel Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State
109. Denver (jlukes) (from SF) - Joseph Noteboom, OT, TCU
110. Oakland (Amtoft) - Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan
111. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from Mia) - Jerome Baker, OLB, Ohio State
112. Cincinnati (Matt G) - Antonio Callaway, WR, Florida
113. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech
114. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from G.B.) - Parry Nickerson, CB, Tulane
115. Chicago (bigbluehoya) (from Ari) - RJ McIntosh, DT, Miami
116. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Tavarius Moore, S, Southern Mississippi
117. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Trenton Thompson, DT, Georgia
118. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Ian Thomas, TE, Indiana
119. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama
120. Seattle (sjnyfan) - Tre'Quan Smith, WR, Central Florida
121. Buffalo (superspynyg) - Alex Cappa, OT, Humboldt State
122. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Breeland Speaks, DE, Mississippi
123. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from Cle, Car) - Jaylen Samuels, RB, North Carolina State
124. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from LAR) - Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford
125. Tennessee (NYG27) - Desmond Harrison, OT, West Georgia
126. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Chad Thomas, DE, Miami
127. New Orleans (Saos1n) - PJ Hall, DT, Sam Houston State
128. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Pit) - Jalyn Holmes, DE, Ohio State
129. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - J'Mon Moore, WR, Missouri
130. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Min) - Isaac Yiadom, CB, Boston College
131. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from N.E.) - Terrell Edmunds, S, Virginia Tech
132. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) - Oren Burks, OLB, Vanderbilt
133. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory) - Brandon Parker, OT, North Carolina A&T
134. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory) - Will Clapp, C, LSU
135. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from NYG) (comp) - Dalton Schultz, TE, Stanford
136. New England (Torrag) (compensatory) - Quin Blanding, FS, Virginia auto selection
137. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory) - Fred Warner, OLB, BYU
Round 5
138. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (from Cle) - Rashaan Gaulden, S, Tennessee
139. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) - Nick Nelson, CB, Wisconsin
140. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Genard Avery, ILB, Memphis
141. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Hou) - Kalen Ballage, RB, Arizona State
142. Denver (jlukes) - Derrick Nnadi, DT, Florida State auto selection
143. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from NYJ) - Tarvarus McFadden, CB, Florida State
144. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Kylie Fitts, DE, Utah
145. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Cole Madison, OG, Washington State
146. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Oak) - Bilal Nichols, DT, Delaware
147. New Orleans (Saos1n) (from Mia) - Sean Welsh, OG, Iowa
148. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) (from SF) - Avonte Maddox, CB, Pittsburgh
149. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - DeShon Elliott, FS, Texas
150. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from G.B.) - Dorian O'Donnell, OLB, Clemson
151. Cincinnati (Matt G) - KeKe Coutee, WR, Texas Tech
152. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Davontae Harris, CB, Illinois State
153. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Hercules Mata'afa, OLB, Washington State
154. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Scott Quessenberry, C, UCLA
155. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Timon Parris, OT, Stony Brook
156. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Phi, Sea) - On the clock
157. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) (from Dal)
158. Cincinnati (Matt G) (from Buf)
159. New England (Torrag) (from Cle, KC)
160. Denver (jlukes) (from LAR)
161. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
162. Tennessee (NYG27)
163. Denver (jlukes) (from Atl)
164. New Orleans (Saos1n)
165. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore)
166. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Jax)
167. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
168. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from N.E.)
169. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
170. Cincinnati (Matt G) (compensatory)
171. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)
172. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
173. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)
174. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
Did you receive player boards from the fake GM's on all these picks today?
Not a biggie..just asking
Thats what I suspected. Its nice when the GMs check in.
The clock is turned off on weekends, but picks can still happen.
Yup my guy was always going to be Carter
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I've been scrambling to stay on top of work and keep things moving here (with a lot of help) as well... Glad you are ok with pick... as I said, you're welcome to change as I'm guessing jlukes had his guy targeted already...
Yup my guy was always going to be Carter
You got my guy jlukes
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I've been scrambling to stay on top of work and keep things moving here (with a lot of help) as well... Glad you are ok with pick... as I said, you're welcome to change as I'm guessing jlukes had his guy targeted already...
Yup my guy was always going to be Carter
You got my guy jlukes
I knew somebody else had to have him on their radar
I wanted you to miss this pick so we could auto pick a Punter for the Eagles
Ha, yeah, that would have been funny to give the Beagles an autopicked punter.
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in the first 129 slots, we have had to make do with trying to identify immediate special teams contributors and role players. Lazard is a big, strong receiver who can play as a WR/TE hybrid and go up and get balls in the corner of the end zone. A solid red zone target that could use some coaching to play a role at the next level.
I wanted you to miss this pick so we could auto pick a Punter for the Eagles
That's not how we roll, cuz!
Actually I think they need a punter...
Cowboys think highly of Rico Gathers progress
Nice selection at #174. I was starting to put together my list for pick #190 and Richardson was at or near the top
Damn really wanted Dickson to fall to the Raiders. So close. Nice pick he is a stud.
Haha! I think Jacobs has a shot to be a good pro. Great measurables and new to OLB. Good upside pick in the 5th. If nothing else he'll be a good special teams guy.
Rd 2- Austin Corbett, OG, Nevada
Rd 3- Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia
Rd 3- James Washington WR Oklahoma State
Rd 4- Jalyn Holmes, DE, Ohio State
Rd 5- Tarvarus McFadden, CB, Florida State
Rd 6- Jaleel Scott, WR, New Mexico State
I will be back online tonight
1 - Quenton Nelson, G
2 - Hayden Hurst, TE
3 - Kemoko Turay, Edge
3 - MJ Stewart, CB
4 - DaeSean Hamilton, WR
4 - Joseph Noteboom, OT
5 - Derrick NNadi, DT
5 - Martez Carter, RB
5 - Dane Cruikshank, S
6 - Charvarius Ward, CB
May be worth doing a call out thread so SYS does not accidentally think a pick was made because New Orleans selected out of turn
May be worth doing a call out thread so SYS does not accidentally think a pick was made because New Orleans selected out of turn
Okay. SirYesSir is active on the site. A friendly call out.
Damn he was on my short list to draft this round. He looked to be like a real player before his injuries. I think he is going to be a very good pro if he can stay healthy
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Sorry, was on a conference call so I could not pick earlier. Cichy is a gamble because of his injury history, but had he played a full season this year I do not think I come anywhere close to being able to draft him at #190 overall. I was a bit concerned that Jon would take him with the Jets, so I was happy that he went with Jacobs
Damn he was on my short list to draft this round. He looked to be like a real player before his injuries. I think he is going to be a very good pro if he can stay healthy
What would a BBI Mock Draft be without me taking at least one of your targets?
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Sorry, was on a conference call so I could not pick earlier. Cichy is a gamble because of his injury history, but had he played a full season this year I do not think I come anywhere close to being able to draft him at #190 overall. I was a bit concerned that Jon would take him with the Jets, so I was happy that he went with Jacobs
Damn he was on my short list to draft this round. He looked to be like a real player before his injuries. I think he is going to be a very good pro if he can stay healthy
What would a BBI Mock Draft be without me taking at least one of your targets?
Yeah it is getting old! hahahaha
1. RB Ito Smith from Southern Miss
2. RB Chase Edmonds from Fordham
(1) DE Marcus Davenport, USTA
(2) TE Dallas Goedert, S. Dakota St
(4) OG Wyatt Teller, Virginia Tech
(5) FS DeShon Elliot, Texas
(6) WR Javon Wims, Georgia
I think they'd be ok with that group
I just wanted to say everyone is doing a great job, and it's really fun to follow this. I've got one more pick to go for the Fish in our 6-round mock draft. My last pick for Miami is #209 overall, which is 19 picks from now being that we've finished 190. I've zeroed in on my guy and I hope he's still there when I pick next and lastly, but in the even he isn't I'll go ahead and put a board together once I'm about 5 picks away or if it's close to my bedtime here.
So far I'm happy with what I've got. I wanted Vita Vea in Round 1 but was awarded the CB Denzel Ward instead. He was my 2nd choice for that pick, so I'm still happy. I got B.J. Ward in the 3rd, the DT from N.C. State's superb D-Line, so he made me happy. I'll review them all once I'm officially done. Keep up the great work everyone and let's enjoy the last round.
Guess our posts crossed. Amtoft put his 2 player board on this thread
I would highly recommend using the BBI Mock spreadsheet (linked in my original post at top of this thread)... Unfortunately, I won't have a chance to update the thread until later this afternoon (at the earliest)...
Pittsburgh has no other picks in Round 6 as they traded it to Tampa Bay in real life. Round 6 is the final round of the mock draft, but after it is completed, on a first come first served basis you can select up to 5 "UDFA's"
L.A. has made their selections.
Yeah, the instructions were the two highest players on the board. Perhaps, I should have queried other GM's on what would make sense.
Thomas would be cool.
No they took Barrett already so I would go to Apke
Okay
That was a nice pick by Washington.
Lot of need on OL in New Orleans so not sure we bypass Hearn
Apparently, the Saint's GM agrees with you. NGD autopicked the QB he was targeting for this pick here.
That may come up yet again because Tampa Bay has less than an hour to pick. Mad Plaid has to do call out threads for everyone today!
Sorry for the delay, lots of shit to deal with at work today.
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Jay is on the site, so he should be checking in. You'd think.
Sorry for the delay, lots of shit to deal with at work today.
No worries. I was wondering if someone was going to take a flier on Toth. It did cross my mind.
1 (32) Ronald Jones, RB, USC
4 (130) Isaac Yiadom, CB, Boston College
4 (132) Oren Burks, OLB, Vanderbilt
5 (169) Allen Lazard, WR, Iowa State
6 (206) Kendrick Norton, DT, Miami
2)Harrison Phillips
3)Micah Kizer
4)Tavarius Moore
4)Fred Warner
5)Daurice Fountain
5)Tyler Conklin
6)Colby Gossett
6)Justin Lawlor
I think this draft helps the Cowboys where needed st
WR,LB,DL and safety.
I agree. Funny how the end of the 6th round looks like the Amtoft show.
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I know Optimus is like 8 hours ahead of us. If the pick does not come in before he goes off the clock I have no problem giving him until 9 AM Eastern tomorrow as the final 9 picks are split between 4 teams so they likely will be fired rather quickly and it means that UDFA will take place during a sane hour tomorrow as opposed to starting late at night tonight when not many people will be around.
I agree. Funny how the end of the 6th round looks like the Amtoft show.
Ahhhh yeah!! of course by tomorrow morning I will be sleeping.
P.S. Pineiro stopped a domestic violence assault recently. He'll be great for the community as well.
Dolphins are reportedly interested in Gators kicker Eddy Pinieiro - ( New Window )
I'm done picking. Here are my selections for the Fish for this year:
Round 1 - CB, Denzel Ward, Ohio State *(auto pick)
Round 2 - C, Billy Price, Ohio State
Round 3 - DT, B.J. Hill, North Carolina State
Round 4 - RB, Jaylen Samuels, North Carolina State
Round 4A - S, Terrell Edmunds, Virginia Tech
Round 5 - None
Round 6 - K, Eddy Pineiro, Florida
I'm going back to bed now for an hour before I have to get ready for work. I think this is a pretty god haul for the Fish. Looks like we replaced some parts without reaching (e.g., Mike Pouncey at CEnter and Cody Parker at kicker) and got some value as well (I like Hill and Edmunds a lot in the 3rd and 4th respectively). Samuels is an all-purpose guy who I think will play a long time in the league and fill a lot of roles at RB and STs.
I'll talk more about my picks tomorrow and join the fray for the undrafted free agents tomorrow. Peace and thanks for understanding my situation guys with the 8-hour time difference. I appreciate it :-)
1 - Quenton Nelson, G
2 - Hayden Hurst, TE
3 - Kemoko Turay, Edge
3 - MJ Stewart, CB
4 - DaeSean Hamilton, WR
4 - Joseph Noteboom, OT
5 - Derrick NNadi, DT
5 - Martez Carter, RB
5 - Dane Cruikshank, S
6 - Charvarius Ward, CB
Martez Carter is one of my favorite sleepers in the draft. Glad someone picked him. I would have went in another direction in round 2 but outside of that you did well, good draft jlukes.
I'm done picking. Here are my selections for the Fish for this year:
Round 1 - CB, Denzel Ward, Ohio State *(auto pick)
Round 2 - C, Billy Price, Ohio State
Round 3 - DT, B.J. Hill, North Carolina State
Round 4 - RB, Jaylen Samuels, North Carolina State
Round 4A - S, Terrell Edmunds, Virginia Tech
Round 5 - None
Round 6 - K, Eddy Pineiro, Florida
I'm going back to bed now for an hour before I have to get ready for work. I think this is a pretty god haul for the Fish. Looks like we replaced some parts without reaching (e.g., Mike Pouncey at CEnter and Cody Parker at kicker) and got some value as well (I like Hill and Edmunds a lot in the 3rd and 4th respectively). Samuels is an all-purpose guy who I think will play a long time in the league and fill a lot of roles at RB and STs.
I'll talk more about my picks tomorrow and join the fray for the undrafted free agents tomorrow. Peace and thanks for understanding my situation guys with the 8-hour time difference. I appreciate it :-)
No problem. I will do my best to raid your UDFA list while you sleep
For my next pick here is a two player board
OT David Bright from Stanford
CB Andre Chachere from San Jose State
Please wait for my last two picks at 11 am EST
Nice pick. Was seriously considering him as a UDFA for the Ravens
Actually, top name on list is Daniel Carlson. Vikings have Kai Forbath, who is a veteran, but he did miss 5 XP last year and 3 in 2016 (albeit in 7 games). FG numbers have been good so not sure why the yips on XP
I was a little reticent to go WR again after just having done so, but after Diggs, Thielen, and the recently acquired Kendall Wright, there is not much at the receiver position for them. I also feel like if I can put a little more weight on Tate, he could be a receiving TE.
Round 1 - Harold Landry/EDGE/Boston College
Round 2 - Anthony Miller/WR/Memphis
Round 3 - Da'shawn Hand/DE/Alabama
Round 4 - Ian Thomas/TE/Indiana
Round 5 - Scott Quessenberry/C/UCLA
Round 6 - Jack Cichy/ILB/Wisconsin
Round 6 - Tracy Walker/S/Louisiana-Lafayette
In the selections thread. You pick 5. It is first come, first served.
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In the selections thread. You pick 5. It is first come, first served.
thank you brother!
2nd - DT Maurice Hurst - lightning off the line if not for medicals he is a high first round.
3rd - FS Jessie Bates - Range ball hawk.
4th - OT Chukwuma Okorafor - raw and big with a good upside
6th - P JK Scott - amazing punter second in the draft but in any other draft he would be the best. He is great
6th - RB Ito Smith - balance is amazing and great vision and cutting ability. I am a fan but he is a little smaller. Think he could be a good RB in the league
6th - FS/SS Tre Flowers - ran a 4.45 at 6'3 and over 200 lbs. Played well as a 3 year starter for Oklahoma State
6th - OT David Bright - Ultimate team player. I hate Stanford, but he has been great for them. He plays LT and did well, LG well, RG well... he moved and filled all year and played well. It hurt his draft stock but at worst I think he will be an amazing 6th lineman. At best I put him in a spot and he starts for me. I think he stays in the league for 10 years even as a backup. What more could you ask for in a 6th rounder.
6th - CB Andre Chachere - San Jose State was horrible this year and his play suffered a little. However he was great in 2016 and they avoided him a lot in 2017. I think he is a diamond in the rough or maybe not but I like the value
6th - LB Skai Moore - He is small and undersize but that didn't stop him from being a beast in the SEC. At worst he is a stud ST player and probably a really good nickel backer. Big fan here.
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Don't worry I am speaking with them while you are on hold and they have told me how much they want authentic Maryland crabcakes
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Don't worry I am speaking with them while you are on hold and they have told me how much they want authentic Maryland crabcakes
Nuh Uh!! They are all in regarding the cheese plates we can offer out her in Wisconsin. I bet you didn't know they are cray cray for fondue?
Probably adding his UDFA selections to his pick announcement
No problem, there is still plenty of excess tissue remaining on Orlando Brown after creating a new hand a new knee
So you are saying he has reached for UDFA in the middle rounds... Come on Andy you need to draft better!
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in the guise that we may have selected them with our 6th round picks. Now, Where is Allstar!!!???
Probably adding his UDFA selections to his pick announcement
I am here...choosing between my SIX players! Don't worry...my UDFA's will be in a separate post! But you better be quick, LOL.
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in the guise that we may have selected them with our 6th round picks. Now, Where is Allstar!!!???
Probably adding his UDFA selections to his pick announcement
I am here...choosing between my SIX players! Don't worry...my UDFA's will be in a separate post! But you better be quick, LOL.
Make a decision already! :)
Yup. I'm getting carpel tunnel with all the clicks. allstar, you will be getting the bill from my surgeon.
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Yup. I'm getting carpel tunnel with all the clicks. allstar, you will be getting the bill from my surgeon.
F5 is your friend
A kicker?! :-)
Don't take my guy(s)
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get an auto draft at this pace
A kicker?! :-)
long snapper for making us wait
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get an auto draft at this pace
A kicker?! :-)
long snapper for making us wait
LOL!!
Sounds about right to me.
"um...nothing."
He was already selected. Daniel Carlson is BPA on list followed by Riley Ferguson if no K
And cheers to everybody for another fun year!
Sam Darnold, QB USC
Orlando Brown, OT Oklahoma
Shaquem Griffin, OLB/Edge Central Florida
Kerryon Johnson, RB Auburn
Marcel Ateman, WR Oklahoma State
Nick Nelson, CB Wisconsin
Greg Stroman, CB Virginia Tech
Roc Thomas, RB Jacksonville State
Grady O'Connell OT/OG Washington State
Thank you, Matt and everyone for helping to make this another fun mock draft. Everyone except dk in TX. You can suck it.
He was in my top 3 since round 5, I almost drafted him 3 times.
Now, to talk about my UDFA
Logan Woodside/QB/Toledo
Needed some QB depth and he was my BPA at the position
Trenton Cannon/RB-RS/Virginia State
Extremely productive as a runner, receiver, and return specialist at lower level. Pro Day numbers were insane. Hopefully he can be my Tarik Cohen
Darrel Williams/RB/LSU
With his ranking by Sy I thought someone would draft him. Gets high marks for work ethic and dedication on Special Teams
Greg Senat/OT/Wagner
Developmental OT
Grant Haley/CB/Penn State
Small, but feisty nickel CB. Nice workout numbers
Rd 1. Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
Rd 2. Frank Ragnow, C, Arkansas
Rd 3. Josh Sweat, DE, Florida State
Rd 5. Deadrin Senat, DT, South Florida
Rd 6. Cedrick Wilson, WR, Boise State
Rd 6. Auden Tate, WR, Florida State
Rd 6. Chase Edmonds, RB, Fordham
UDFAs
Darious Williams, CB, UAB
Nic Shimonek, QB, Texas Tech
Taron Johnson, CB, Weber State
Khalid Hill, FB/TE, Michigan
Christian Sam, ILB, Arizona State
I kind of screwed up my last pick and UDFAs, though. I definitely wanted Darious Williams and Shimonek, but I don't think Edmonds was a great pick for this team. I hurried it though because I saw the comments I was taking too long. I didn't know you guys were just waiting there with bated breath! You guys are competitive!
Only changes I would've made is to probably draft Darious Williams and then swap his spot on the UDFAs for Ryan Nall. I think I'd rather have a big back that can be a hammer rather than a quick, small one like Edmonds.
Then I'm not sure I would've taken Taron Johnson as a UDFA as I already drafted Jackson and then would've added Darious Williams to bookend my draft with corners. It's too many DBs and I like to acquire guys with a reasonable chance to make my team.
I would've done a little more research on the linebackers as well, because I'm not sure on Christian Sam. Might've gone with Chris Worley from Ohio State instead.
All in all, I really like my draft for Minnesota. I think I at least added two STRONG starters to my team, one on offense and one on defense with the first two picks, and got some upside with the rest of the draft and guys that have a good chance to contribute. I loved getting Cedrick Wilson in the 6th, because I think he is going to be a good NFL player. I was surprised at how low he was ranked on the list and that he was still available so late in the draft.
Jester Weah, WR - Pittsburgh: Fast (4.43), lanky (6'3" 210), vertical receiver with big hands. Lacks quick twitch but could be a deep/red zone threat in the league. Devalued because of poor QB play.
Tony Adams, G - NC State: Compact frame, good agility/footwork and quickness, lacks length but should be at least a rotational player down the road.
Damon Webb, S - Ohio State: SY's #5 rated safety- "Fourth year senior that has started games at CB and S. The instincts are what jump off the screen here and it is arguably the most important trait I look for in a free safety. Webb has consistently shown the knack to anticipate throws and routes with the best of them. If I had to rank these safeties based on feel, Webb would be at the top. He lacks some of the desired tools, mainly size, but in a system where a true centerfielder is needed, he is a prized asset."
The dude just makes plays. He lacks the physical tools but is a great football player who will find a spot for himself on our squad.
Tremon Smith, CB - Central Arkansas 6'0" 190, ballhawk. Aggressive corner, slightly built but fast (4.32 pro day) and athletic. Played at a lower competition level but has the traits of a shutdown NFL corner. Can play slot or outside.
2 - Hayden Hurst, TE
3 - Kemoko Turay, Edge
3 - MJ Stewart, CB
4 - DaeSean Hamilton, WR
4 - Joseph Noteboom, OT
5 - Derrick NNadi, DT
5 - Martez Carter, RB
5 - Dane Cruikshank, S
6 - Charvarius Ward, CB
QB Kyle Allen, Houston
Almost drafted him in the 5th and 6th rounds but rolled the dice. Highly rated HS QB who was really drawing some interest from teams late in the draft process
FB Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma
Thumper who can help in the run game with or without the ball in his hands
LB Mike McCray, Michigan
Physical middle LB, great inside 34 fit
DE Zach Seiler, Ferris State
One of the top D2 guys in the draft
WR Darren Carrington, Oregon
Raw talent, immature but not a bad guy
2 - Hayden Hurst, TE
3 - Kemoko Turay, Edge
3 - MJ Stewart, CB
4 - DaeSean Hamilton, WR
4 - Joseph Noteboom, OT
5 - Derrick NNadi, DT
5 - Martez Carter, RB
5 - Dane Cruikshank, S
6 - Charvarius Ward, CB
QB Kyle Allen, Houston
Almost drafted him in the 5th and 6th rounds but rolled the dice. Highly rated HS QB who was really drawing some interest from teams late in the draft process
FB Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma
Thumper who can help in the run game with or without the ball in his hands
LB Mike McCray, Michigan
Physical middle LB, great inside 34 fit
DE Zach Seiler, Ferris State
One of the top D2 guys in the draft
WR Darren Carrington, Oregon
Raw talent, immature but not a bad guy
That's a very good draft. Love the Nnadi and Noteboom picks...great value. I'm not a Dasean Hamilton guy, but it is a 4th round pick, afterall.
This is always a fun mock draft .
We will see in 3 or 4 years how the Cowboys draft worked out.
Missed you yesterday. Was wondering who you would have picked up as UDFAs.
Thanks again for helping make this possible.
2 - PK, Michael Badgely, Miami
3 - C, Coleman Shelton, Washington
4 - WR, Byron Pringle, Kansas State
5 - CB, Danny "Louisiana Pimpdog" Johnson, Southern
THANKS!!