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BBI Mock Draft – DISCUSSION Thread

Matt G : 4/1/2018 10:46 pm
We will use this as a discussion thread to keep the SELECTIONS thread uncluttered. These threads will be used for the duration of the entire draft.

Once a team is on the clock, they will have two hours to make a selection. If a team goes on the clock after 4pm, their two hour window will roll over to the next day. For example, if you go on the clock at 4:30pm, you will have until 9:30 am to make a selection. Picks may be made between 6pm and 9am if GMs are online and following the draft thread. The time limit only applies during the 9am to 6pm timeframe. If the two hour time limit expires, I will make a pick using any list that the GM for the team has sent me in advance (send lists to the email address in my profile) or in the absence of a list, I will use the GBN Big Board with a little discretion so as not make an obvious dumb pick (i.e.: Philadelphia Eagles won’t be taking a QB in the 1st round this year). If a GM misses two consecutive picks without providing a prospect list or making some form of contact with me (email or posting on the draft thread) the spot will be reassigned to one of the BBIers who have expressed an interest to fill the vacancy.

Please utilize the BBI Mock Draft Spreadsheet . The spreadsheet contains the draft order (RD1-6) by team and GM with a fairly comprehensive list of both available and taken prospects based on the GBN Big Board (as well as several other prospects that did not make the GBN Big Board). I will try to keep the spreadsheet and thread updated as often as possible.
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RE: A kicker doesn't make sense with Lutz on the roster  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2018 11:24 am : link
In comment 13918751 MadPlaid said:
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Saints did pick up a OG earlier, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility that they would take another. All teams need extra bodies for the OL. The next available player is a QB. That may make more sense considering Bree's age.


Lot of need on OL in New Orleans so not sure we bypass Hearn
QB makes sense for the Aints  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2018 11:29 am : link
Not a kicker
RE: QB makes sense for the Aints  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 11:33 am : link
In comment 13918785 Optimus-NY said:
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Not a kicker

Apparently, the Saint's GM agrees with you. NGD autopicked the QB he was targeting for this pick here.
no special teams player  
Amtoft : 4/18/2018 12:41 pm : link
should be autodrafted.
RE: no special teams player  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2018 12:43 pm : link
In comment 13918918 Amtoft said:
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should be autodrafted.


That may come up yet again because Tampa Bay has less than an hour to pick. Mad Plaid has to do call out threads for everyone today!
Sure feels that way  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 12:46 pm : link
Jay is on the site, so he should be checking in. You'd think.
RE: Sure feels that way  
Jay on the Island : 4/18/2018 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13918923 MadPlaid said:
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Jay is on the site, so he should be checking in. You'd think.

Sorry for the delay, lots of shit to deal with at work today.
Let's go, Kevin  
Lionhart28 : 4/18/2018 1:00 pm : link
RE: RE: Sure feels that way  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 1:03 pm : link
In comment 13918961 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13918923 MadPlaid said:


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Jay is on the site, so he should be checking in. You'd think.


Sorry for the delay, lots of shit to deal with at work today.

No worries. I was wondering if someone was going to take a flier on Toth. It did cross my mind.
I'll post my pick  
Lionhart28 : 4/18/2018 2:46 pm : link
in a couple of minutes
How many UDFAs do we usually do?  
Lionhart28 : 4/18/2018 2:53 pm : link
5?
Eagles are done...  
Chris in Philly : 4/18/2018 3:12 pm : link
The dearth of quality picks hamstrung us, but we were able to add some talented young men who can challenge for playing time quickly even on a quality roster.

1 (32) Ronald Jones, RB, USC
4 (130) Isaac Yiadom, CB, Boston College
4 (132) Oren Burks, OLB, Vanderbilt
5 (169) Allen Lazard, WR, Iowa State
6 (206) Kendrick Norton, DT, Miami
RE: How many UDFAs do we usually do?  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13919186 Lionhart28 said:
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5?
5 is correct
Very glad to pick up Bellamy so late in the draft  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 3:24 pm : link
the Pack needed to find quality talent for the D, and I think I did that. From what I read on-line, Bellamy is one of those glue guys. He may not make the most plays, but he is one of those guys who makes the team around him better. Takes on the blocks, so one of his teammates makes the play. He's the glue that keeps a team together and get the job done without all the flash. Injuries are a concern which is likely why he lasted to the 6th round.
Cowboys select Justin Lawlor with their final pick  
Rick in Dallas : 4/18/2018 3:25 pm : link
Visited Cowboys during Dallas Day. Cowboys have interest in Lawlor in late rounds.
Cowboys are DONE picks listed below  
Rick in Dallas : 4/18/2018 3:32 pm : link
1)Calvin Ridley
2)Harrison Phillips
3)Micah Kizer
4)Tavarius Moore
4)Fred Warner
5)Daurice Fountain
5)Tyler Conklin
6)Colby Gossett
6)Justin Lawlor

I think this draft helps the Cowboys where needed st
WR,LB,DL and safety.
Miami is up  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2018 4:33 pm : link
I know Optimus is like 8 hours ahead of us. If the pick does not come in before he goes off the clock I have no problem giving him until 9 AM Eastern tomorrow as the final 9 picks are split between 4 teams so they likely will be fired rather quickly and it means that UDFA will take place during a sane hour tomorrow as opposed to starting late at night tonight when not many people will be around.
RE: Miami is up  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 4:36 pm : link
In comment 13919347 Mike in NY said:
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I know Optimus is like 8 hours ahead of us. If the pick does not come in before he goes off the clock I have no problem giving him until 9 AM Eastern tomorrow as the final 9 picks are split between 4 teams so they likely will be fired rather quickly and it means that UDFA will take place during a sane hour tomorrow as opposed to starting late at night tonight when not many people will be around.

I agree. Funny how the end of the 6th round looks like the Amtoft show.
RE: RE: Miami is up  
Amtoft : 4/18/2018 5:21 pm : link
In comment 13919350 MadPlaid said:
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In comment 13919347 Mike in NY said:


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I know Optimus is like 8 hours ahead of us. If the pick does not come in before he goes off the clock I have no problem giving him until 9 AM Eastern tomorrow as the final 9 picks are split between 4 teams so they likely will be fired rather quickly and it means that UDFA will take place during a sane hour tomorrow as opposed to starting late at night tonight when not many people will be around.


I agree. Funny how the end of the 6th round looks like the Amtoft show.


Ahhhh yeah!! of course by tomorrow morning I will be sleeping.
I'm here for the Fish  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2018 8:34 pm : link
Pick coming up
I'm going kicker here  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2018 8:36 pm : link
Just deciding between the 2.
The Dolphins were desperate for a kicker here  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2018 9:04 pm : link
I had a choice between the 2 best kickers in the draft. Carlson's mechanics and inaccuracy bothered me. I don't like guys huge guys like Carlson because I feel their mechanics aren't always up to snuff. Pineuro is was college football's most accurate kicker last year and has experience kicking in the state of Florida. He just so happens to be a Miami native as well. The Fish don't have anyone at kicker now, so he's my bet to be the kicker on opening day.

P.S. Pineiro stopped a domestic violence assault recently. He'll be great for the community as well.


Dolphins are reportedly interested in Gators kicker Eddy Pinieiro - ( New Window )
It's 5:04 am here  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2018 9:17 pm : link
Sorry for not being awake to pick. I tried my best.

I'm done picking. Here are my selections for the Fish for this year:

Round 1 - CB, Denzel Ward, Ohio State *(auto pick)
Round 2 - C, Billy Price, Ohio State
Round 3 - DT, B.J. Hill, North Carolina State
Round 4 - RB, Jaylen Samuels, North Carolina State
Round 4A - S, Terrell Edmunds, Virginia Tech
Round 5 - None
Round 6 - K, Eddy Pineiro, Florida


I'm going back to bed now for an hour before I have to get ready for work. I think this is a pretty god haul for the Fish. Looks like we replaced some parts without reaching (e.g., Mike Pouncey at CEnter and Cody Parker at kicker) and got some value as well (I like Hill and Edmunds a lot in the 3rd and 4th respectively). Samuels is an all-purpose guy who I think will play a long time in the league and fill a lot of roles at RB and STs.

I'll talk more about my picks tomorrow and join the fray for the undrafted free agents tomorrow. Peace and thanks for understanding my situation guys with the 8-hour time difference. I appreciate it :-)
RE: Pretty happy about the Broncos drafted  
est1986 : 4/18/2018 9:17 pm : link
In comment 13916254 jlukes said:
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didn't force a QB in the mid rounds

1 - Quenton Nelson, G
2 - Hayden Hurst, TE
3 - Kemoko Turay, Edge
3 - MJ Stewart, CB
4 - DaeSean Hamilton, WR
4 - Joseph Noteboom, OT
5 - Derrick NNadi, DT
5 - Martez Carter, RB
5 - Dane Cruikshank, S
6 - Charvarius Ward, CB


Martez Carter is one of my favorite sleepers in the draft. Glad someone picked him. I would have went in another direction in round 2 but outside of that you did well, good draft jlukes.
RE: It's 5:04 am here  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2018 9:20 pm : link
In comment 13919634 Optimus-NY said:
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Sorry for not being awake to pick. I tried my best.

I'm done picking. Here are my selections for the Fish for this year:

Round 1 - CB, Denzel Ward, Ohio State *(auto pick)
Round 2 - C, Billy Price, Ohio State
Round 3 - DT, B.J. Hill, North Carolina State
Round 4 - RB, Jaylen Samuels, North Carolina State
Round 4A - S, Terrell Edmunds, Virginia Tech
Round 5 - None
Round 6 - K, Eddy Pineiro, Florida

I'm going back to bed now for an hour before I have to get ready for work. I think this is a pretty god haul for the Fish. Looks like we replaced some parts without reaching (e.g., Mike Pouncey at CEnter and Cody Parker at kicker) and got some value as well (I like Hill and Edmunds a lot in the 3rd and 4th respectively). Samuels is an all-purpose guy who I think will play a long time in the league and fill a lot of roles at RB and STs.

I'll talk more about my picks tomorrow and join the fray for the undrafted free agents tomorrow. Peace and thanks for understanding my situation guys with the 8-hour time difference. I appreciate it :-)


No problem. I will do my best to raid your UDFA list while you sleep
Amtoft - Go ahead, and have at it  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2018 9:27 pm : link
!
Made my pick...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 1:09 am : link
Going to put a two player board up now for my next pick and I will be back on tomorrow at 11am EST to make my last two picks assuming I am up.

For my next pick here is a two player board

OT David Bright from Stanford
CB Andre Chachere from San Jose State

Please wait for my last two picks at 11 am EST
Very happy with this pick  
Boatie Warrant : 4/19/2018 8:13 am : link
Marquez Valdes-Scantling is a big receiver with room to grow into his frame. This guy could become a great outside WR for the Texans with NFL weight training and coaching
RE: Very happy with this pick  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 8:24 am : link
In comment 13919966 Boatie Warrant said:
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Marquez Valdes-Scantling is a big receiver with room to grow into his frame. This guy could become a great outside WR for the Texans with NFL weight training and coaching


Nice pick. Was seriously considering him as a “UDFA” for the Ravens
Should we be talking autopick for the Vikings?  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 10:33 am : link
allstarjim hasn't active on BBI since last night. Riley Ferguson is next up. It isn't out of the realm of possibility that Minnesota would select a QB.
RE: Should we be talking autopick for the Vikings?  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 10:38 am : link
In comment 13920351 MadPlaid said:
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allstarjim hasn't active on BBI since last night. Riley Ferguson is next up. It isn't out of the realm of possibility that Minnesota would select a QB.


Actually, top name on list is Daniel Carlson. Vikings have Kai Forbath, who is a veteran, but he did miss 5 XP last year and 3 in 2016 (albeit in 7 games). FG numbers have been good so not sure why the yips on XP
True  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 10:44 am : link
a PK may not be so crazy in this case
I'm here  
allstarjim : 4/19/2018 10:58 am : link
Will make pick in next 15 minutes.
If either the names discussed are autopick  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 11:00 am : link
I have narrowed my list down to two so I should be good as long as I am not with a client
Nice draft for  
Lionhart28 : 4/19/2018 11:12 am : link
Minnesota
Thanks  
allstarjim : 4/19/2018 11:17 am : link
And I still have one more pick!

I was a little reticent to go WR again after just having done so, but after Diggs, Thielen, and the recently acquired Kendall Wright, there is not much at the receiver position for them. I also feel like if I can put a little more weight on Tate, he could be a receiving TE.
Big risk with Victor  
Boatie Warrant : 4/19/2018 11:30 am : link
He is going to need some special attention to stay on point but should contribute early on specials if he gets his life straight.
Crazy how close we are to being done  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 11:33 am : link
Then the UDFAs!
Ravens pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 11:51 am : link
Now off to contact UDFA's

Round 1 - Harold Landry/EDGE/Boston College
Round 2 - Anthony Miller/WR/Memphis
Round 3 - Da'shawn Hand/DE/Alabama
Round 4 - Ian Thomas/TE/Indiana
Round 5 - Scott Quessenberry/C/UCLA
Round 6 - Jack Cichy/ILB/Wisconsin
Round 6 - Tracy Walker/S/Louisiana-Lafayette
Raiders picks are all in  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 12:01 pm : link
where do we put UDFA?
RE: Raiders picks are all in  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13920546 Amtoft said:
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where do we put UDFA?

In the selections thread. You pick 5. It is first come, first served.
RE: RE: Raiders picks are all in  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 12:08 pm : link
In comment 13920551 MadPlaid said:
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In comment 13920546 Amtoft said:


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where do we put UDFA?


In the selections thread. You pick 5. It is first come, first served.


thank you brother!
No problem  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 12:10 pm : link
Don't take my guy(s)
Raiders draft...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 12:16 pm : link
1st - LB Roquan Smith - best LB best I have seen a few years really.

2nd - DT Maurice Hurst - lightning off the line if not for medicals he is a high first round.

3rd - FS Jessie Bates - Range ball hawk.

4th - OT Chukwuma Okorafor - raw and big with a good upside

6th - P JK Scott - amazing punter second in the draft but in any other draft he would be the best. He is great

6th - RB Ito Smith - balance is amazing and great vision and cutting ability. I am a fan but he is a little smaller. Think he could be a good RB in the league

6th - FS/SS Tre Flowers - ran a 4.45 at 6'3 and over 200 lbs. Played well as a 3 year starter for Oklahoma State

6th - OT David Bright - Ultimate team player. I hate Stanford, but he has been great for them. He plays LT and did well, LG well, RG well... he moved and filled all year and played well. It hurt his draft stock but at worst I think he will be an amazing 6th lineman. At best I put him in a spot and he starts for me. I think he stays in the league for 10 years even as a backup. What more could you ask for in a 6th rounder.

6th - CB Andre Chachere - San Jose State was horrible this year and his play suffered a little. However he was great in 2016 and they avoided him a lot in 2017. I think he is a diamond in the rough or maybe not but I like the value

6th - LB Skai Moore - He is small and undersize but that didn't stop him from being a beast in the SEC. At worst he is a stud ST player and probably a really good nickel backer. Big fan here.
Paging allstarjim...  
Chris in Philly : 4/19/2018 12:19 pm : link
Let's get this thing done!
I've got my UDFA on hold!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/19/2018 12:21 pm : link
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RE: I've got my UDFA on hold!  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 12:24 pm : link
In comment 13920589 Andy in Halifax said:
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Ditto
My UDFAs are ready as well  
jlukes : 4/19/2018 12:25 pm : link
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RE: RE: I've got my UDFA on hold!  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 12:25 pm : link
In comment 13920594 MadPlaid said:
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Ditto


Don't worry I am speaking with them while you are on hold and they have told me how much they want authentic Maryland crabcakes
RE: RE: RE: I've got my UDFA on hold!  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13920596 Mike in NY said:
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Don't worry I am speaking with them while you are on hold and they have told me how much they want authentic Maryland crabcakes

Nuh Uh!! They are all in regarding the cheese plates we can offer out her in Wisconsin. I bet you didn't know they are cray cray for fondue?
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