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pjcas18 : 4/9/2018 9:39 am
I know some of you hockey fans won't watch, but I will and maybe the Devils fans on here start their own thread, but thought I'd let the other thread die and start a playoff thread.

Bruins shit the bed last night and wind up with TOR instead of NJD. Not sure they preferred one over the other or not but generally I'd prefer being the higher seed though it hasn't show much lately in terms of winning a cup.

Some compelling matchups, In the East, battle of PA, BOS vs TOR most interesting to me, but all look good.

In the West, I'm interested in seeing how LVG does and I'm not sure anyone has the talent that WIN does, but they're not playoff tested, see how that goes.

NSH is my favorite right now (going out on a limb).

I read as retribution for not sending their players to the Olympics, that NBC has put some playoff games on the Golf Channel. The f-ing Golf Channel. Pretty sure FiOS removed that a couple years ago.

matchups below:



full schedule:

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Eastern Conference

Lightning (A1) vs. Devils (WC2)

Game 1: April 12 at Tampa Bay, 7 p.m.
Game 2: April 14 at Tampa Bay, 3 p.m.
Game 3: April 16 at New Jersey, 7:30 p.m.
Game 4: April 18 at New Jersey, 7:30 p.m.
*Game 5: April 21 at Tampa Bay, TBD
*Game 6: April 23 at New Jersey, TBD
*Game 7: April 25 at Tampa Bay, TBD

Bruins (A2) vs. Maple Leafs (A3)

Game 1: April 12 at Boston, 7 p.m.
Game 2: April 14 at Boston, 7 p.m.
Game 3: April 16 at Toronto, 7 p.m.
Game 4: April 19 at Toronto, 7 p.m.
*Game 5: April 21 at Boston, TBD
*Game 6: April 23 at Toronto, TBD
*Game 7: April 25 at Boston, TBD

Capitals (M1) vs. Blue Jackets (WC1)

Game 1: April 12 at Washington, 7:30 p.m.
Game 2: April 15 at Washington, 7:30 p.m.
Game 3: April 17 at Columbus, 7:30 p.m.
Game 4: April 19 at Columbus, 7:30 p.m.
*Game 5: April 21 at Washington, TBD
*Game 6: April 23 at Columbus, TBD
*Game 7: April 25 at Washington, TBD

Penguins (M2) vs. Flyers (M3)

Game 1: April 11 at Pittsburgh, 7 p.m.
Game 2: April 13 at Pittsburgh, 7 p.m.
Game 3: April 15 at Philadelphia, 3 p.m.
Game 4: April 18 at Philadelphia, 7 p.m.
*Game 5: April 20 at Pittsburgh, TBD
*Game 6: April 22 at Philadelphia, TBD
*Game 7: April 24 at Pittsburgh, TBD
Western Conference

Predators (C1) vs. Avalanche (WC2)

Game 1: April 12 at Nashville, 9:30 p.m.
Game 2: April 14 at Nashville, 3 p.m.
Game 3: April 16 at Colorado, 10 p.m.
Game 4: April 18 at Colorado, 10 p.m.
*Game 5: April 20 at Nashville, TBD
*Game 6: April 22 at Colorado, TBD
*Game 7: April 24 at Nashville, TBD

Jets (C2) vs. Wild (C3)

Game 1: April 11 at Winnipeg, 7 p.m.
Game 2: April 13 at Winnipeg, 7:30 p.m.
Game 3: April 15 at Minnesota, 7 p.m.
Game 4: April 17 at Minnesota, 8 p.m.
*Game 5: April 20 at Winnipeg, TBD
*Game 6: April 22 at Minnesota, TBD
*Game 7: April 25 at Winnipeg, TBD

Golden Knights (P1) vs. Kings (WC1)

Game 1: April 11 at Vegas, 10 p.m.
Game 2: April 13 at Vegas, 10 p.m.
Game 3: April 15 at Los Angeles, 10:30 p.m.
Game 4: April 17 at Los Angeles, 10:30 p.m.
*Game 5: April 19 at Vegas, 10 p.m.
*Game 6: April 21 at Los Angeles, TBD
*Game 7: April 23 at Vegas, TBD

Ducks (P2) vs. Sharks (P3)

Game 1: April 12 at Anaheim, 10:30 p.m.
Game 2: April 14 at Anaheim, 10:30 p.m.
Game 3: April 16 at San Jose, 10:30 p.m.
Game 4: April 18 at San Jose, 10:30 p.m.
*Game 5: April 20 at Anaheim, TBD
*Game 6: April 22 at San Jose, TBD
*Game 7: April 24 at Anaheim, TBD
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RE: Eagles and Craps  
RobCarpenter : 6/7/2018 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13986198 Pete in MD said:
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win in the same year. Ugh...


Please. Itís not the same.
Ovie  
RobCarpenter : 6/7/2018 11:28 pm : link
Finally gets the Cup.

And where will Trotz will be coaching??
Congrats tonystg ...  
Stufftherun : 6/7/2018 11:31 pm : link
That has to feel pretty good!
Happy for Ovechkin  
Anakim : 6/7/2018 11:31 pm : link
I think aside from Henrik, no one wanted or needed the Cup more



But fuck the rest of the Capitals
Congratulations to Tony  
Greg from LI : 6/7/2018 11:33 pm : link
But ugh, how repugnant
RE: RE: Eagles and Craps  
Pete in MD : 6/7/2018 11:37 pm : link
In comment 13986202 RobCarpenter said:
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In comment 13986198 Pete in MD said:


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win in the same year. Ugh...



Please. Itís not the same.

I will never forgive Dale Hunter. (I honestly donít care that much, have a lot of friends who root for different teams.)
That was a great game  
RobCarpenter : 6/7/2018 11:37 pm : link
What a way to end the season.

DC outside of the Capital One Arena is a sea of red.
Baltimore was all  
Pete in MD : 6/7/2018 11:41 pm : link
into it tonight too which is not usual. We usually reject everything DC related.
The local DC news broadcast is ridiculous.  
Motley Two : 6/7/2018 11:47 pm : link
These people are cornballs.
Thanks guys...  
tony stg : 6/8/2018 12:07 am : link
Feels as good as I thought it would. In believable after watching this team for 43-44 years. Stanley Cup champs... I canít believe it.

Congrats RobCarpenter! Enjoy it, my friend.
RE: Thanks guys...  
JayBinQueens : 6/8/2018 12:10 am : link
In comment 13986224 tony stg said:
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Feels as good as I thought it would. In believable after watching this team for 43-44 years. Stanley Cup champs... I canít believe it.

Congrats RobCarpenter! Enjoy it, my friend.


Congrats sir. You've put in your time. Enjoy this
RE: Thanks guys...  
RobCarpenter : 6/8/2018 12:16 am : link
In comment 13986224 tony stg said:
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Feels as good as I thought it would. In believable after watching this team for 43-44 years. Stanley Cup champs... I canít believe it.

Congrats RobCarpenter! Enjoy it, my friend.


You too!!!

Still canít believe they did it.
RE: RE: Eagles and Craps  
Route 9 : 6/8/2018 12:53 am : link
In comment 13986202 RobCarpenter said:
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In comment 13986198 Pete in MD said:


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win in the same year. Ugh...



Please. Itís not the same.


Lol yeah some jerk-offs on BBI actually became "happy" for the Eagles.
Seeing TJ Oshie  
pjcas18 : 6/8/2018 8:24 am : link
talk about his dad with Alzheimer's who he is sure will remember this moment his whole life was great.

I would link it, but probably easier to google search yourself if interested.

the emotions after winning the cup are why i watch (other than the fact hockey is the best sport to watch on TV). ABC said it best when I was a kid, the thrill of victory, the agony of defeat. It's all in display.
RE: Thanks guys...  
Sonic Youth : 6/8/2018 9:42 am : link
In comment 13986224 tony stg said:
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Feels as good as I thought it would. In believable after watching this team for 43-44 years. Stanley Cup champs... I canít believe it.

Congrats RobCarpenter! Enjoy it, my friend.
youre a true fan Tony. Soak it in bud
Tony getting the satisfaction of winning after all this time  
Greg from LI : 6/8/2018 9:44 am : link
almost makes up for the fact that this happened.

Almost.
Congrats Rob and Tony!  
BrettNYG10 : 6/8/2018 9:46 am : link
This was probably the ~5th best Caps team since he's joined the league. Funny that they're the ones to win it all.
Even after seeing their season results  
pjcas18 : 6/8/2018 10:04 am : link
and watching them closely in the post-season I still don't know how exactly Vegas made it to the SCF.

I get the rolling 4 lines out there with max effort (commendable) and solid D and a good goalie, but that's not a SCF recipe IMO.

I'm going to make an ass out of myself even further and say they won't sniff this success again in the near future.

Maybe I'll start a draft thread  
pjcas18 : 6/8/2018 10:14 am : link
next week.

here is the top 31 from Simon Boisvert (ex-QMJHL scout) current hockey analyst. I don't agree with some (Hughes and Tkachuk especially), but he gets paid to do this.

Veleno sounds a lot like Howden  
Greg from LI : 6/8/2018 10:31 am : link
I really wish the Rangers could move up but I don't see that happening
Partisans and Emrick  
ColHowPepper : 6/8/2018 10:32 am : link
1st, congrats to tony and Rob, has to feel really nice. In the pg interviews, Oshie, as pj noted, became so emotional when talking about his dad, and I enjoyed Eller's post-game, just a heck of a hockey-playing Dane looking for a home and wishing his buddies the best back home.

2nd, even though this didn't end the way I was hoping--which was for the Finals to go 7, irrespective of who won--it was such a treat last night watching the game's celebratory aftermath and Doc Emrick's flowing, tradition-sensitive commentary. And, gosh, he knows the names of the Caps' trainers when they hoisted the cup. Emrick is so versed in the sport, its people, its history, he reveres them and that reverence and his ability to articulate the game as it's being played, matchless.

Having grown up a Brooklyn Dodgers' fan from the mid-50s on (until the transplant wore off), I put Doc right up there with Vince Scully as just HOF best in his sport.
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arcarsenal : 6/8/2018 10:50 am : link
Ah, I missed this thread -

Might as well put my congrats to Tony in here! Well-deserved, brother - you suffered through a lot of heartbreak. Probably feels incredible. Hoping I can get one from the Rangers in my adult life here.

Enjoy it!
Good job on the playoff thread pj  
Kyle in NY : 6/8/2018 10:56 am : link
Now that it's happened, this is much more preferable than an expansion team winning it. Ovi deserved it. I have no love for the Capitals but I'm happy for him. And I can respect all the heartbreak their true fans went through during this era.

Still hope Hank can have this moment before it's all said and done.
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BrettNYG10 : 6/8/2018 12:00 pm : link
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Still hope Hank can have this moment before it's all said and done.


It's so depressing every year realizing the chances of that are getting smaller and smaller.
At this point, as a Ranger, he basically has no chance  
Greg from LI : 6/8/2018 12:01 pm : link
unless he finds the Dominik Hasek fountain of youth and play at a high level into his 40s.
^  
ColHowPepper : 6/8/2018 12:34 pm : link
and not to put too fine a point on what Brett says, but Greg has it right: over the past two+ years, what has there been in Henrik's play on a consistent basis that points toward other than a continuing, gradual decline?

Ovechkin, on the other hand, he was a back-checking demon last night.
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arcarsenal : 6/8/2018 12:36 pm : link
Before we worry about Hank, we need to fix the defense in front of him. What used to be one of the Rangers' biggest advantages and strengths has become a very big weakness. There's no doubt Henrik is starting to decline a bit, but I think he'd look much better if we could fix the fucking slop in front of him.
Oh, I'm sure he would look better  
Greg from LI : 6/8/2018 12:45 pm : link
But he's clearly on the downslope. It's a gentle downslope, but the point is that he's not going to be able to carry them the way he used to. The team in front of him will have to be better than the 2012-15 teams in order for them to compete, and they're a long way from that being the case.

He should agree to a trade, but for whatever reason he doesn't want to.
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arcarsenal : 6/8/2018 12:49 pm : link
Things probably won't line up in a way that the Rangers are ready to contend again while Hank can still perform at a very high level - which sucks, but it's probably reality.

In any event, all I'm really saying is that whether it's Hank back there or someone else. we have to fix the blue line. It has become a gigantic issue and is in even worse shape now that Mac is gone (although I think we traded him at the ideal time)
....  
BrettNYG10 : 6/8/2018 12:50 pm : link
Lundqvist is almost certainly not what he was from 2010-2014, but he's still very good, IMO. But the slip from top three to top ten eliminates a huge advantage for the Rangers.

I thought the 2012-2014 defenses were very good, but Lundqvist was still the one carrying them. I don't think the 2014 D group was a top three unit, for example. Certainly not like what NAS has now.

I don't think the Rangers have a shot at being anywhere close to good next year. The defense is really, really bad. Skjei took a step-back last year. Shattenkirk might be the best D on the roster right now - and I like him and think he could fill a top pair role with the right guy - but that's terrible.

And up-front, they lost Nash/Grabner/Miller - three top six caliber guys.

I think this is a 3-4 year process. It's unlikely Lundqvist will be able to carry a team then.
with a better coach, the defense might be average  
Greg from LI : 6/8/2018 12:52 pm : link
Skjei is better than what he showed last year, Pionk and Gilmour were decent, and D'Angelo still has talent (even if it's starting to look like he'll never realize his potential). But under no circumstances is that going to be a plus unit.
Or what everyone else said, basically.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/8/2018 12:53 pm : link
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They should have fired the coach  
Kyle in NY : 6/8/2018 12:54 pm : link
after the Ottawa series, before they made any major decisions on Stepan, McDonagh, and others. I don't necessarily think the sell off was a bad idea. But the fact they allowed AV to run this team into the ground before doing so was a real shame.
RE: with a better coach, the defense might be average  
BrettNYG10 : 6/8/2018 12:54 pm : link
In comment 13986568 Greg from LI said:
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Skjei is better than what he showed last year, Pionk and Gilmour were decent, and D'Angelo still has talent (even if it's starting to look like he'll never realize his potential). But under no circumstances is that going to be a plus unit.


I thought DeAngelo, Gilmour, and Pionk looked good - but then I realized they were still still giving up fifty shots a game.
RE: They should have fired the coach  
BrettNYG10 : 6/8/2018 12:55 pm : link
In comment 13986570 Kyle in NY said:
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after the Ottawa series, before they made any major decisions on Stepan, McDonagh, and others. I don't necessarily think the sell off was a bad idea. But the fact they allowed AV to run this team into the ground before doing so was a real shame.


I agree. I am happy they did go all-in on one direction, though.
Grabner  
bigbluehoya : 6/8/2018 12:57 pm : link
Isnít a top 6 player.

But agree that NYR has a ton of work to do. Stockpile assets, let the kids play, and make a run at Karlsson next offseason.
A fair bit of that was on Veenyo, I'd say  
Greg from LI : 6/8/2018 12:57 pm : link
In any case, though, you're right about the bottom line - the defense is almost certainly not going to be good.

This should be a long term 2-3 year rebuild, but the Rangers never go that route because god forbid Lil' Jimmy doesn't get his postseason ticket sales.
RE: Grabner  
BrettNYG10 : 6/8/2018 1:04 pm : link
In comment 13986576 bigbluehoya said:
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Isnít a top 6 player.

But agree that NYR has a ton of work to do. Stockpile assets, let the kids play, and make a run at Karlsson next offseason.


Fair, but he did put up top 6 production while with NYR.

Biggest driver of a turnaround is going to be how lucky they get with the lottery. Everything else is sort of secondary.
RE: RE: Eagles and Craps  
Rover : 6/8/2018 1:12 pm : link
In comment 13986202 RobCarpenter said:
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In comment 13986198 Pete in MD said:


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win in the same year. Ugh...



Please. Itís not the same.

Fo rme, it's worse.
This is worse than 2004 when I lived in Boston.

Congrats to you and Tony, but aside from you two, this is the worst sports moment ever...I probably would have traded my championships to avoid having this day happen.
Makes me wish I never followed sports.
Thank god I moved to NYC when I did.
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arcarsenal : 6/8/2018 1:23 pm : link
I do think AV exacerbated our issues and really just did an awful job particularly these last couple of seasons.

I think we're hopefully moving in a better direction now.

I goes without saying, but this draft is going to be massively important for the future of this franchise. This offseason in general, really.
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arcarsenal : 6/8/2018 1:23 pm : link
Also, seeing how much this bothers GoldenTee actually makes me even more glad the Capitals won.
Pionk  
pjcas18 : 6/8/2018 1:32 pm : link
looked good at the world championships, I think he has a role on the NYR, not sure where I'd slot him, bottom pair would be ideal, but I never gave him much thought until I watched those games.
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arcarsenal : 6/8/2018 1:40 pm : link
Pionk did play pretty well on a few occasions down the stretch. I think there's probably something there.

I agree - bottom pair guy, ideally, but I think he can and should have a place on next season's team.
RE: .  
Rover : 6/8/2018 2:17 pm : link
In comment 13986623 arcarsenal said:
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Also, seeing how much this bothers GoldenTee actually makes me even more glad the Capitals won.

It has ruined the NHL for me for a long while.
Fortunately I'm in NYC.
So you would give up a titel your team won  
dep026 : 6/8/2018 2:31 pm : link
to see another team not win?

Wow. But expected.
RE: So you would give up a titel your team won  
Rover : 6/8/2018 2:46 pm : link
In comment 13986738 dep026 said:
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to see another team not win?

Wow. But expected.

For the Caps?
Yes.
Definitely at least 1 if not more.
RE: .  
YAJ2112 : 6/8/2018 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13986623 arcarsenal said:
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Also, seeing how much this bothers GoldenTee actually makes me even more glad the Capitals won.


+8
RE: RE: So you would give up a titel your team won  
RobCarpenter : 6/8/2018 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13986759 Rover said:
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In comment 13986738 dep026 said:


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to see another team not win?

Wow. But expected.


For the Caps?
Yes.
Definitely at least 1 if not more.


That's insane. I would never ever give up any Giants SB wins, period.
Congrats to the Caps' fans.  
NYerInMA : 6/8/2018 5:53 pm : link
.
Ovie  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2018 6:23 pm : link
is partying like a rock star. Google it, the images are hilarious.
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