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pjcas18 : 4/9/2018 9:39 am
I know some of you hockey fans won't watch, but I will and maybe the Devils fans on here start their own thread, but thought I'd let the other thread die and start a playoff thread.

Bruins shit the bed last night and wind up with TOR instead of NJD. Not sure they preferred one over the other or not but generally I'd prefer being the higher seed though it hasn't show much lately in terms of winning a cup.

Some compelling matchups, In the East, battle of PA, BOS vs TOR most interesting to me, but all look good.

In the West, I'm interested in seeing how LVG does and I'm not sure anyone has the talent that WIN does, but they're not playoff tested, see how that goes.

NSH is my favorite right now (going out on a limb).

I read as retribution for not sending their players to the Olympics, that NBC has put some playoff games on the Golf Channel. The f-ing Golf Channel. Pretty sure FiOS removed that a couple years ago.

matchups below:



full schedule:

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Eastern Conference

Lightning (A1) vs. Devils (WC2)

Game 1: April 12 at Tampa Bay, 7 p.m.
Game 2: April 14 at Tampa Bay, 3 p.m.
Game 3: April 16 at New Jersey, 7:30 p.m.
Game 4: April 18 at New Jersey, 7:30 p.m.
*Game 5: April 21 at Tampa Bay, TBD
*Game 6: April 23 at New Jersey, TBD
*Game 7: April 25 at Tampa Bay, TBD

Bruins (A2) vs. Maple Leafs (A3)

Game 1: April 12 at Boston, 7 p.m.
Game 2: April 14 at Boston, 7 p.m.
Game 3: April 16 at Toronto, 7 p.m.
Game 4: April 19 at Toronto, 7 p.m.
*Game 5: April 21 at Boston, TBD
*Game 6: April 23 at Toronto, TBD
*Game 7: April 25 at Boston, TBD

Capitals (M1) vs. Blue Jackets (WC1)

Game 1: April 12 at Washington, 7:30 p.m.
Game 2: April 15 at Washington, 7:30 p.m.
Game 3: April 17 at Columbus, 7:30 p.m.
Game 4: April 19 at Columbus, 7:30 p.m.
*Game 5: April 21 at Washington, TBD
*Game 6: April 23 at Columbus, TBD
*Game 7: April 25 at Washington, TBD

Penguins (M2) vs. Flyers (M3)

Game 1: April 11 at Pittsburgh, 7 p.m.
Game 2: April 13 at Pittsburgh, 7 p.m.
Game 3: April 15 at Philadelphia, 3 p.m.
Game 4: April 18 at Philadelphia, 7 p.m.
*Game 5: April 20 at Pittsburgh, TBD
*Game 6: April 22 at Philadelphia, TBD
*Game 7: April 24 at Pittsburgh, TBD
Western Conference

Predators (C1) vs. Avalanche (WC2)

Game 1: April 12 at Nashville, 9:30 p.m.
Game 2: April 14 at Nashville, 3 p.m.
Game 3: April 16 at Colorado, 10 p.m.
Game 4: April 18 at Colorado, 10 p.m.
*Game 5: April 20 at Nashville, TBD
*Game 6: April 22 at Colorado, TBD
*Game 7: April 24 at Nashville, TBD

Jets (C2) vs. Wild (C3)

Game 1: April 11 at Winnipeg, 7 p.m.
Game 2: April 13 at Winnipeg, 7:30 p.m.
Game 3: April 15 at Minnesota, 7 p.m.
Game 4: April 17 at Minnesota, 8 p.m.
*Game 5: April 20 at Winnipeg, TBD
*Game 6: April 22 at Minnesota, TBD
*Game 7: April 25 at Winnipeg, TBD

Golden Knights (P1) vs. Kings (WC1)

Game 1: April 11 at Vegas, 10 p.m.
Game 2: April 13 at Vegas, 10 p.m.
Game 3: April 15 at Los Angeles, 10:30 p.m.
Game 4: April 17 at Los Angeles, 10:30 p.m.
*Game 5: April 19 at Vegas, 10 p.m.
*Game 6: April 21 at Los Angeles, TBD
*Game 7: April 23 at Vegas, TBD

Ducks (P2) vs. Sharks (P3)

Game 1: April 12 at Anaheim, 10:30 p.m.
Game 2: April 14 at Anaheim, 10:30 p.m.
Game 3: April 16 at San Jose, 10:30 p.m.
Game 4: April 18 at San Jose, 10:30 p.m.
*Game 5: April 20 at Anaheim, TBD
*Game 6: April 22 at San Jose, TBD
*Game 7: April 24 at Anaheim, TBD
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Surprised at how little resistance the Leafs are putting up  
NYerInMA : 4/15/2018 11:21 am : link
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I'm not  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2018 11:31 am : link
surprised, unfortunately the Bruins have a stanley cup feel to them.

Need to hope TB or PIT plays them next round (if TB or PIT advance).

I don't see anyone else in the league beating them (maybe WIN if they move on).

Toronto D is brutal. Zaitsev has been abused more times in this two-game series so far his confidence is probably shot.

and goaltending has been an issue - the two parts of TOR I felt like were suspect.
Toronto missing their opportunity  
Kyle in NY : 4/15/2018 11:45 am : link
to win while their young players are still on entry level deals. Nylander an RFA after this season, Matthews and Marner the year after that. All three deserving of big extensions. Going to be tough to significantly improve their D when they’re going to have to pay those deals.

Likely to lose JVR and maybe Bozak to UFA too
RE: I'm not  
MetsAreBack : 4/15/2018 11:50 am : link
In comment 13914708 pjcas18 said:
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surprised, unfortunately the Bruins have a stanley cup feel to them.

Need to hope TB or PIT plays them next round (if TB or PIT advance).

I don't see anyone else in the league beating them (maybe WIN if they move on).



Bruins play the winner of Tampa/Devils series next round. Looking like Tampa.

That's going to be an insane series.
...  
Route 9 : 4/15/2018 3:01 pm : link
Going to be a good one today between the Pens and Flyers. I was shocked Philly turned it around after that 7-0 routing in game 1.

Hate to say it, but those series are fun to watch since I get to watch one of them go home.
It is a fun series  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2018 3:42 pm : link
Crosby with the skill goal - skate to stick wrap around - not many guys have that; and he didn't miss today.
Malkin  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2018 4:29 pm : link
with a bullet, pens up 3 - 0.
Everything about that was perfection  
Route 9 : 4/15/2018 4:30 pm : link
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Pens  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2018 4:30 pm : link
pouring it on now, 4 - 0.
It annoys me  
Kyle in NY : 4/15/2018 4:33 pm : link
how good Crosby is. Best player on his backhand that I’ve ever seen
And Malkin  
Kyle in NY : 4/15/2018 4:34 pm : link
now with 159 points in 152 career playoff games. Really feel like he’s still underrated playing with Crosby. Can’t stand them, but can’t help but respect it
RE: And Malkin  
Route 9 : 4/15/2018 4:38 pm : link
In comment 13915045 Kyle in NY said:
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now with 159 points in 152 career playoff games. Really feel like he’s still underrated playing with Crosby. Can’t stand them, but can’t help but respect it


I'll take them over Drury, Nash, Callahan or who ever else I cannot think of who didn't get it done since 1994
Off the top of my head  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2018 4:42 pm : link
I struggle to come up with a better 1/2 C than Crosby and Malkin.

Some people say you win stanley cups with strength up the middle (C) and goaltending.

recent teams like the Penguins, Kings and Blackhawks help prove this. even the Bruins cup win.
Schultz  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2018 5:32 pm : link
has turned into such a solid defenseman.

I'm enjoying this rebound for the Pens  
Kevin_in_Pgh : 4/15/2018 5:37 pm : link
After that really crappy Game 2
MIN  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2018 8:29 pm : link
vs WIN is a great game so far.
Someone want to explain to me  
tony stg : 4/15/2018 9:44 pm : link
Why the heck I stay a Capitals fan? Sheesh.

RE: Someone want to explain to me  
pjcas18 : 4/16/2018 8:48 am : link
In comment 13915265 tony stg said:
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Why the heck I stay a Capitals fan? Sheesh.


you are a glutton for punishment. as my Yankees fan father would say to me about being a Mets fan.
Shocked  
pjcas18 : 4/18/2018 9:51 am : link
LVG swept LAK.

shocked WAS won an OT playoff game and more shocked Lars Eller scored the goal.

Some good games on tap for tonight.

Battle of PA, game 4 (Pens up 2 - 1)

TBL vs NJD, NJD trying to even up the series, home teams winning all the games so far

NSH vs COL, NSH up 2 - 1, another home teams won all the games series

and SJS looking to sweep ANA.


RE: RE: Someone want to explain to me  
Greg from LI : 4/18/2018 11:24 am : link
In comment 13915510 pjcas18 said:
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you are a glutton for punishment. as my Yankees fan father would say to me about being a Mets fan.


Wait, your dad is a Yankees fan and you became a Mets fan? You really are a true masochist.
RE: RE: RE: Someone want to explain to me  
pjcas18 : 4/18/2018 1:29 pm : link
In comment 13918774 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13915510 pjcas18 said:


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you are a glutton for punishment. as my Yankees fan father would say to me about being a Mets fan.



Wait, your dad is a Yankees fan and you became a Mets fan? You really are a true masochist.


Yes, my father is like Francessa in terms of his encyclopedic like mind of a Yankees fan, he knows lineups stats, specific games, etc. you name it.

My younger brother also a diehard Yankees fan.

My first MLB game was Yankee Stadium 1977 or 1978 as a 5 or 6 year old, Yankees vs California Angels, Reggie was my favorite player, he hit a triple.

I was dragged to West Haven Yankees games as a kid.

Both my father and brother are also Rangers fans.

for a variety of reasons I became a Mets fan. I don't regret it. but my father has fun ribbing me about it sometimes, and it may be why I don't hate the Yankees.

For my father and brother's sake I don't mind seeing the Yankees win at all, any time, as long as they're not playing the Mets.

And we all share the Red Sox hate (I used to get dragged to Yankees Red Sox games at Fenway and Yankee stadium since my extended family was split between Yankees and Red Sox, I used to get stuck sitting behind the pole).
My dad went the opposite route  
Greg from LI : 4/18/2018 1:41 pm : link
As a youngster growing up in Manhattan, Grandpa grew up a Giants fan. Mel Ott was his idol. He was raising my dad to be a Giants fan as well - one of my favorite old family pictures is from when my father was about 7 years old. He's wearing a full Giants uniform that my grandmother had made for him.

Then, when dad was 8, the Giants moved away. Grandpa has been a rabid Yankee-hater his entire life, so he of course became a Mets fan a few years later when they came into being. Dad, on the other hand, was left without a team at a time when baseball was of supreme importance in a young man's life. He started rooting for the Yankees despite stern paternal disapproval because a)they were the only team left in the area b)as he said, "they won all the time". So my dad, and thus me and my sister, are Yankees fans. His younger brother is a Yankees fan too. The rest of the family (on both sides since my other grandfather was a Dodgers fan from Brooklyn) is Mets fans.
Anyone watch Blue Jackets/Caps last night?  
Mr. Bungle : 4/18/2018 2:40 pm : link
Was it just me, or did the Columbus crowd seem to not really understand (or appreciate) what was going on, in terms of game urgency?

It was double OT, with an opportunity to take a commanding series lead against a favored team. In most other buildings, the noise would seem deafening at times, and you'd almost be able to feel the anxiety and urgency in the crowd. But the Blue Jackets were forcing turnovers and leading breakaways, and the crowd didn't seem to respond with much excitement. Their goalie would make nice saves -- again, in double OT! -- , and there would be a delayed, moderate cheer. If it were the 1st period of, say, a February game or something, OK, I'd get it. But last night?

Even when the Caps scored the game-winner, you can usually sense the air being sucked out of the building all at once in a situation like that. But their crowd last night seemed to just have a collective, "Ah, that sucks" response.

It seemed weird to me. Like many of them were watching a hockey game for the first time or something.
Devils and Flyers LOSERS tonight  
Route 9 : 4/18/2018 11:15 pm : link
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Quick Rangers detour  
Kyle in NY : 4/19/2018 9:45 am : link
Dolan gave some quotes to Brooks that sound pretty promising and make me feel like they have a good plan for what they want in the next coach. Also makes it blatantly obvious that they were not happy with how AV handled younger players.

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“We’re looking for someone who can develop players and develop a team,” Garden executive chairman Jim Dolan told The Post during a conversation at his MSG office on Wednesday. “We want someone who is going to be able to work with young players — all of our players, really — so that they and we improve from one stage of the season to the next and we’re better at the end of the year than at the beginning.

“We need a coach who is going to be able to coordinate with the assistants and the training staff in putting a program in place. He’s going to have to be able to delegate authority in identifying deficiencies and fixing them. Scolding a player doesn’t fix the problem. He can’t try to do everything by himself. The job is just too big.”

“I think Alain was a great coach, but a great coach for a developed team,” Dolan said. “Even though he probably didn’t mean to, he sort of affirmed that himself when he talked after the last game about how he didn’t have the players this year.

“He was probably correct, but the next coach is going to have to be able to take the players we have, the young guys we have, and get them to the next level. I liked what I saw in the young guys and so did the staff.

“The guy we hire has to be a developmental coach, I can’t stress that enough.”


Sort of odd how Dolan is simultaneously a pretty good hockey owner while largely being a complete failure as owner of the Knicks.
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COL  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2018 9:47 am : link
lost, and is down 3-1, but actually looks really good for the worst team in the league last year - and not just league worst they had 40-something points, for reference this year's last place Coyotes had 67, I think it was almost 20 points more than the Avs.

Seeing MacKinnon as infrequently as I do, I forget how good he is. If he's not as fast as McDavid, he's not much slower. And to think he was rumored to be on the trading block last year.

Sharks sweep. I didn't expect long playoff ventures from either the Kings or Ducks, but didn't expect either to be swept. Two American goalies (Quick and Gibson) usually keep their teams in it and neither was bad but MAF and Jones were stellar. Now they face each other.

Keep waiting for LVG to turn into pumpkins, not wanting it to happen, just expecting it.

PHI avoided a sweep but they're on life support. Crosby racking up points in a quest to add to his Conn Smythe hardware, of course getting ahead of myself, but hard not to notice. He's tied with 9 points (with Pastrnak and Kucherov - but Pastrnak has 9 in just 3 games - he's pretty good, LOL).


Two games tonight, BOS vs TOR and CBJ vs WAS
First round has been a bit of a disappointment  
Kyle in NY : 4/19/2018 10:00 am : link
CBJ/WSH the only series that's really delivered. Maybe Toronto can tie this up and we get a long series there.

That's speaking strictly from how competitive they've been though. There have been some tremendous individual performances. Crosby, Panarin, the entire Bruins first line, MacKinnon have all stood out
Yeah  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2018 10:02 am : link
game 7's and OT's are all I root for when my team isn't in it, not much in that dept so far (though hard to have games 7's yet - two sweeps won't help).
Playoffs have been flat  
Metnut : 4/19/2018 10:09 am : link
so far. More excitement in the NBA first round which is pretty rate. Still, a bad first round could lead to an awesome second round. I hate Washington but it would be more fun for them to get another crack at Pitt. TB/BOS, PIT/WSH, Vegas/SJ and NSH/Jets all look compelling.
RE: First round has been a bit of a disappointment  
AnnapolisMike : 4/19/2018 10:11 am : link
In comment 13920246 Kyle in NY said:
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CBJ/WSH the only series that's really delivered. Maybe Toronto can tie this up and we get a long series there.

That's speaking strictly from how competitive they've been though. There have been some tremendous individual performances. Crosby, Panarin, the entire Bruins first line, MacKinnon have all stood out


Huge game in Columbus tonight. Columbus can bury the Caps tonight with a win against Holtby.
Pittsburgh is going to win the Cup again  
Giants in 07 : 4/19/2018 10:26 am : link
They've turned it on
RE: RE: First round has been a bit of a disappointment  
Kyle in NY : 4/19/2018 10:41 am : link
In comment 13920291 AnnapolisMike said:
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In comment 13920246 Kyle in NY said:


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CBJ/WSH the only series that's really delivered. Maybe Toronto can tie this up and we get a long series there.

That's speaking strictly from how competitive they've been though. There have been some tremendous individual performances. Crosby, Panarin, the entire Bruins first line, MacKinnon have all stood out



Huge game in Columbus tonight. Columbus can bury the Caps tonight with a win against Holtby.


I'll be there! and for a potential game 6
I'm really torn watching Tampa play  
MetsAreBack : 4/19/2018 11:25 am : link
I hate them the least of any team except maybe Toronto left in the East (and 5bowls is changing my opinion there)...

but there are so many ex-Rangers - it would be fitting if they all lifted a Cup, including Girardi who is dead money against our cap for another 5 fucking years (and meanwhile, we used that 'cap savings' to pay useless Brendon Smith anyway).

JT Miller they said now has 22 points in 23 games as a member of Tampa. Nice trade Gorton. apparently JT was a throw-in Tampa didnt even ask for.
That's not true  
Kyle in NY : 4/19/2018 11:43 am : link
read the other day Yzerman has been after JT since the Martin St. Louis trade in 2014
RE: I'm really torn watching Tampa play  
Sonic Youth : 4/19/2018 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13920464 MetsAreBack said:
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I hate them the least of any team except maybe Toronto left in the East (and 5bowls is changing my opinion there)...

but there are so many ex-Rangers - it would be fitting if they all lifted a Cup, including Girardi who is dead money against our cap for another 5 fucking years (and meanwhile, we used that 'cap savings' to pay useless Brendon Smith anyway).

JT Miller they said now has 22 points in 23 games as a member of Tampa. Nice trade Gorton. apparently JT was a throw-in Tampa didnt even ask for.
Throwing in JT was such an obviously shitty move. People at the time were saying he needed a change of scenery because AV didn't like him (IIRC). How about we change the coach instead of getting rid of a useful piece?

Watching the Lightning makes me sick to my fucking stomach. Fuck the Devils, but fuck the Lightning also.
Miller  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2018 12:17 pm : link
was a player I'd said for a long time would thrive in a different system.

I think the same thing for Kreider.

Coaches like AV IMO don't get younger and younger-ish players to use their creativity and feel like they can take chances.

Playing next to Stamkos and Kucherov doesn't hurt point totals either - I remember post-trade people saying look at Namestnikov's numbers.

I still believe Miller is a player with untapped potential though.
I meant to post earlier  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2018 12:28 pm : link
that the U18 world juniors are on NHL network (USA losing to Canada 4 -2 in the 3rd).

Quite a few draft prospects will be in this tournament. This draft and next.

Both Samuellson's (this draft), Jack Hughes (next draft).

Adam Boqvist, Wahlstrom, and more.
RE: That's not true  
MetsAreBack : 4/19/2018 12:37 pm : link
In comment 13920508 Kyle in NY said:
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read the other day Yzerman has been after JT since the Martin St. Louis trade in 2014


We discussed the day the trade happened that Tampa came out and publicly said JT was brought up by NYR, they hadnt been actively pursuing him going in to negotiations.

Yzerman very well may be saying he always liked JT now -- why not. First, its probably true - we always knew JT was/is a good player. Two, it makes him look smart - the guy has 22 points in 23 games.

I will say, I do like Nemestikov's game... its not like we got nothing in return.. but i'd still like to deal him along with Zuccs this offseason and continue to build the prospect and pick pipeline.
USA  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2018 1:03 pm : link
came back to tie it, and then Canada came right back for the GW.

Wahlstrom had 2, Farabee had 2, Hughes had 1 and 2 helpers, US loses 6 - 4 (ENG).

Hughes looked really good as did Wahlstrom and Farabee (also 2018 draft eligible), but man Canada had some fast skaters, I was most impressed on Canada with Raphael Lavoie (2019 draft eligible).

I was not too impressed with either Samuellson - both have great size like their dads, and were capable, but neither stood out IMO as stars, but hard to tell with the bigger players - sometimes they take longer to develop.
I probably misunderstood  
Kyle in NY : 4/19/2018 1:05 pm : link
Thought you were implying we'd have gotten the same exact deal for just Mcdonagh but wanted to dump JT as well.

You may be right. We had discussed after the deal that it was pretty clear management wasn't thrilled at the idea of giving JT a multi year deal in RFA after this season. In that case, I could see them floating him in discussions.
RE: Playoffs have been flat  
Route 9 : 4/19/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13920277 Metnut said:
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so far. More excitement in the NBA first round which is pretty rate. Still, a bad first round could lead to an awesome second round. I hate Washington but it would be more fun for them to get another crack at Pitt. TB/BOS, PIT/WSH, Vegas/SJ and NSH/Jets all look compelling.


Flat? Huh? Some of the series only have played 3 games so far, give it some time. The Washington-Columbus series, and every single game thus far has gone into overtime and game 3 went into 2 OTs. Boston Toronto has only played 3 games.

The Vegas-LA series had a double OT as well. It's the first round, it is funny and I do enjoy the Flyers getting their teeth kicked down their throats by Pittsburgh. Kind of nice to see Crosby and company do his part vs a Philly team, I will certainly take this ass kicking after the Eagles Super Bowl and how worthless the "sure thing" Patriots were.
Pj  
5BowlsSoon : 4/19/2018 6:10 pm : link
I have a bad feeling about tonight’s game. Often times the visiting team up 2-0 loses game three but wins a nail biting game 4....usually in OT.

I think that may happen but I sure hope not. We need another big defensive game from Pleks.
There are not many pro athletes  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2018 6:12 pm : link
I hate more than Brad Marchand (sports hate of course), but this Players Tribune article is really good.

Marc Bergevin more or less said this exact same thing in MTL and was crucified in the media (in part because he brings in the players, but I don't think it's his job to see that they all gel).

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....The second thing is a little bit harder to explain. There are so many young guys coming in and out of the league now — and so much roster turnover — that every year is a little bit different. When we were off to a slow start, we had a road trip out West where all the guys hung out every night, and it really brought us together.

The thing about hockey is that the cliché is actually real. It’s really a game where a split second changes everything. The difference between winning and losing is so razor thin. If you don’t have a good room, and you’re not all 100% locked-in and willing to do literally anything to win, you are not gonna win.

I don’t care how fast your guys are or how good your system is. Everybody’s guys are fast. Everybody’s system is good. What you need is a room full of guys who are willing to do anything. We had it in 2011. I think we have it again in 2018.

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No Bergeron tonight  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2018 6:36 pm : link
for Boston.

Furious  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2018 7:37 pm : link
pace in Toronto. Tied 1 - 1; 5 left in the first.

Leafs headed to the power play.

Krug with a soft early goal (though Andersen was screened) and Plekanec answered to tie (seems strange to type that about Plekanec not on the Habs).

This is playoff hockey.
Maple Leafs D acts like Maple Leafs  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2018 8:59 pm : link
D give up odd man rush to Pastrnak and Marchand, Marchand buries the great feed from Pastrnak to make it 2 - 1 end of 2.

Rask is standing on his head
Oh well  
5BowlsSoon : 4/19/2018 9:21 pm : link
Just as I suspected.
Leafs D  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2018 9:54 pm : link
is brutal.

To lose that game when you're at home and the Bruins don't have Bergeron you will have a hard time winning the series.

They need 3 D IMO.
USA beat Switzerland  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2018 9:50 am : link
8 - 5, sounds like goalie is a problem, that's 10 goals against in 2 games.

I didn't see the game, looks like the Swiss were winning 5 - 4 late in the 2nd.

Jack Hughes with 2 goals and 1 assist, Wahlstrom 1 and 1, Mattias Samuelsson 1 and 1.

Jack Hughes leads the scoring in the tourney through 2 games (for now - Canada still needs to play).
All I'm interested in are Game 7's and Playoff OT  
Giants in 07 : 4/20/2018 10:24 am : link
We haven't gotten many OT's and aren't going to get any Game 7's.

Brutal
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