They say that in life, we ultimately regret more the things we didn't do than the things we did. So which would be more regrettable, to draft the next JaMarcus Russell or pass on the next Aaron Rodgers?
In 2005, with the #2 ovrall pick the Dolphins selected Ronnie Brown over Aaron Rodgers. In 2007 the Raiders selected JaMarcus Russell over Adrian Peterson. With 20-20 hindsight, which team made the bigger blunder?
Neither the Raiders or Dolphins got a franchise player, but a least the Dolphins got something.
I'll have you know Ronnie Brown has a higher career QB rating than Jamarcus Russell.
My answer is that it's far more regrettable to pass on the great QB, than to choose a QB that busts. My guess though is that most posters who want a QB at 2 will agree with that premise, while those that don't will spin it to support their own, non-QB draft preference.
The question was supposed to make you think, but it just made everyone dig their heels in and restate their draft preference.
You know what is unconscionable bullshit about this post?
We are presented with two options. That implies that there are two different pov and since it’s a free will life, opinions are, by right, equal.
Yet one choice is framed here as equitable agreement. The other is presented as contortional spin.
Propagandists everywhere would be proud.
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But unfortunately since Milton is the one asking, everyone is in attack mode thinking that it's just another Rosen thread.
My answer is that it's far more regrettable to pass on the great QB, than to choose a QB that busts. My guess though is that most posters who want a QB at 2 will agree with that premise, while those that don't will spin it to support their own, non-QB draft preference.
The question was supposed to make you think, but it just made everyone dig their heels in and restate their draft preference.
You know what is unconscionable bullshit about this post?
We are presented with two options. That implies that there are two different pov and since it’s a free will life, opinions are, by right, equal.
Yet one choice is framed here as equitable agreement. The other is presented as contortional spin.
Propagandists everywhere would be proud.
Another mediocre post Bill. Keep em coming!
No way should you be upset you passed on the HOFer - if you DID draft him... he may not have been the HOFer.
I still want Barkley at 2 - but find it less likely we'll go that way. Darnold has bust written all over him - his release has a Tebow-like wind up to it. Rosen is likely the best QB to come out of this draft, but I really don't want another 10 years of an immobile pocket passer - call it personal preference. Mayfield fits the bill but oh boy his choices in his off field life leave a lot to be desired.
No way should you be upset you passed on the HOFer - if you DID draft him... he may not have been the HOFer.
I still want Barkley at 2 - but find it less likely we'll go that way. Darnold has bust written all over him - his release has a Tebow-like wind up to it. Rosen is likely the best QB to come out of this draft, but I really don't want another 10 years of an immobile pocket passer - call it personal preference. Mayfield fits the bill but oh boy his choices in his off field life leave a lot to be desired.
Exactly right... Each of the top four quarterbacks have flaws that increase the likelihood of a bust... Darnold's turnover propensity, Allen's accuracy, Rosen's durability, Mayfield's height and character... None of them are in the "Andrew Luck Can't Miss" category - and, oh by the way, you would have to say that after six years, Luck has indeed "missed" if you consider a Super Bowl win the objective of a top ten draft franchise quarterback... Listening to his press conference yesterday had to be disconcerting to Colts fans who may now be wondering why they traded back with the Jets...
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because he was never any good. At least Ronnie Brown was a good back for a while.
Neither the Raiders or Dolphins got a franchise player, but a least the Dolphins got something.
I'll have you know Ronnie Brown has a higher career QB rating than Jamarcus Russell.
Hahaha.
Whether or not the guy I had in mind was Rosen or the QB of your choice is unimportant. The purpose of the thread was to approach the discussion we've been having for weeks, but from a different angle. Looking at it from the POV of Dave Gettleman fifteen years from now and knowing that he made a mistake. Which mistake would sting the most? Would it sting more to have selected [Fill In QB of your choice] only to see Barkley go on to have a Hall of Fame career or to choose Barkley and suffer through watching [Fill in QB of your choice] have a Hall of Fame career? I gave the examples from 2005 and 2007 because those were drafts in which a GM made a choice between the highest graded RB on his board and the highest graded QB and in each case the one that got away had a Hall of Fame career.
1. As several 'insiders' have stated, it may not be Barkley if they don't go QB at #2. Chubb is definitely in play due to the high value the Giants FO puts on pass rushers (probably 2nd most critical position to them after QB). So why not answer my earlier question regarding Ware vs Rodgers?
2. A lot of regrets also have to deal with how the decision making went down. Is his 'gut' (and film review) telling him that Eli is toast and that he needs to draft a replacement? Is his gut telling him that Barkley is Faulk+? And finally, does he go against his to fill a need?
And lastly, this is assuming the QB you pick turns into a HoFer. What if... let's just say Josh Rosen for the sake of argument *grin*... turns out to be a bust? But Barkley goes on to have a HoF career? Does that help or hurt whatever point you guys are trying to make?
You can stick with that same draft. What if you end up drafting Alex Smith, who's made a nice career for himself, over HOF Ware?