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NFT: Mets @ Marlins, gm 1 - Thor on the bump

jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:12 pm
Didn't see a game thread. Will delete if German.

Conforto opens it up with a lined single.

Lineup in next post!
lineup  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:14 pm : link
Conforto
Cespedes
Bruce
Frazier
Cabrera
A-Gone
MVPLawecki
Thor
Rosario

Cespedes flies out for out 1.
Bruce missed a hit-and-run  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:16 pm : link
I think

Conforto moves on 2-1. Bruce takes and Conforto out by 5 feet.
Bruce grounds out to first  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:17 pm : link
Hoping Syndegaard is more efficient and has better command than his first two starts.
nice 12-pitch 1-2-3 inning  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:23 pm : link
slider looks tight this evening.
These guys  
Everyone Relax : 4/9/2018 7:25 pm : link
especially the pitchers must be relieved to finally play in some warm weather
RE: These guys  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:27 pm : link
In comment 13907075 Everyone Relax said:
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especially the pitchers must be relieved to finally play in some warm weather


Was just thinking that. Been in the 40s for nearly all -- if not all -- the games.
nice job  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:29 pm : link
on 0-2 by AsCAb

Smokes a single up the middle.
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arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 7:33 pm : link
Yo, Adriannnnn!
A-Gone with a great AB  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:33 pm : link
Sells out on the 3-1 FB and misses it.

Turns on the inside FB with a lot more control to plate the first run.

1st and 3rd for Plaw.
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arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 7:34 pm : link
Bah. MVPlawecki kills our shot at a big inning.
Plaw just needed to get that a foot over to the right  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:34 pm : link
But, 2-0 good guys, still.

what a nice bare-hand by  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:40 pm : link
Frazier
.  
arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 7:40 pm : link
Dirtball reads!
very nice from Noah  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:42 pm : link
22 pitches through 2.
Rosario  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:45 pm : link
smokes a double off the CF wall on a fly.

Very nice!

Love this kid.
nice lil lead off double  
Rory : 4/9/2018 7:46 pm : link
for Rosario
nice job by Bruce  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:53 pm : link
taking advantage of the missed foul pop up.
RE: .  
Shecky : 4/9/2018 7:53 pm : link
In comment 13907082 arcarsenal said:
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Bah. MVPlawecki kills our shot at a big inning.


You’re only allowed to watch TDA games for now on.
Time for the bats to get healthy.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/9/2018 7:53 pm : link
Doin’ work.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 7:53 pm : link
In comment 13907103 Shecky said:
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In comment 13907082 arcarsenal said:


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Bah. MVPlawecki kills our shot at a big inning.



You’re only allowed to watch TDA games for now on.


Haha! I sent out the SheckSignal!

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuce!
wooo  
JayBinQueens : 4/9/2018 7:53 pm : link
3-0 Metsies with Bruce bringing home Rosario
whew that could have been  
JayBinQueens : 4/9/2018 7:55 pm : link
interesting. OF's almost collide but the catch was made
RE: RE: RE: .  
Shecky : 4/9/2018 7:55 pm : link
In comment 13907105 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13907103 Shecky said:


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In comment 13907082 arcarsenal said:


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Bah. MVPlawecki kills our shot at a big inning.



You’re only allowed to watch TDA games for now on.



Haha! I sent out the SheckSignal!

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuce!


You are the reason they don’t televise Thor starts lol
Ill-advised attempt to run on  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 7:57 pm : link
Ces!
man that whole little Rosario  
Rory : 4/9/2018 8:00 pm : link
batting 9th kinda worked there didnt it? :)
couple better swings on Thor that inning  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 8:02 pm : link
but only 35 pitches through three having faced the minimum.

Really hoping for 7+ from Noah this evening.
Ces  
Pete in MD : 4/9/2018 8:05 pm : link
throwing out that youngster was priceless.
Syndegaard working into trouble  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 8:14 pm : link
here.

2 on, 0 out, 3-4-5 up.

I mean that ball was literally over the plate  
bhill410 : 4/9/2018 8:15 pm : link
And they guy stuck his elbow out. Bs call
beautiful DP  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 8:15 pm : link
Rosario judged that superbly.
couple of nice  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 8:17 pm : link
plays that inning to keep the Marlins off the board!
Man, having a real shortstop is so nice  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/9/2018 8:18 pm : link
Hope he pulls it together as a hitter.
I wanted Carlos Santana last offseason - AGon is the $1 store version  
Eric on Li : 4/9/2018 8:20 pm : link
great roll of the dice at $500k. If last year is an aberration he could be a huge piece. He's made good defensive plays in every game I've seen so far.
dang  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 8:27 pm : link
that was unfortunate glove work by Rosario.

Gotta get that thing down on the ground.
And after turning that DP, a brutal error  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/9/2018 8:28 pm : link
. Yikes.
cmon thor  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 8:33 pm : link
Bear down here.
syndegaard sneaking some looks at his pitching hand  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 8:34 pm : link
been battling a nail issue. Might be back.
Looks like Thor  
Everyone Relax : 4/9/2018 8:34 pm : link
is battling with this blister issuer again. Keeps looking at his finger
RE: Looks like Thor  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 8:35 pm : link
In comment 13907171 Everyone Relax said:
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is battling with this blister issuer again. Keeps looking at his finger


yep -- either a nail or a blister.

Something's up.
cmon Eiland  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 8:36 pm : link
get out there,

Something is up
huge batter to get here  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 8:39 pm : link
Can't let this get away!
got out of it  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 8:41 pm : link
with the damage minimized.

Need to rattle the bats.
.  
arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 8:42 pm : link
Ugh, blisters suck. They just don't go away until you rest the guy a while. Basically wrecked Aaron Sanchez' season last year.
aw man  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 9:01 pm : link
Thor just lost it again.

Been a disappointing start to his season, honestly,
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arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 9:01 pm : link
Thor hasn't been the same these past couple innings.

Go figure.... he gets into the 6th with a lower PC and now his stuff isn't there.
looks like that nail issue  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 9:08 pm : link
better a nail than a blister.
.  
arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
Yep if it's the nail thing that's not as bad. Let's hope that's all it is.
Rosario!!!  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 9:20 pm : link
Love this kid!
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arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 9:20 pm : link
Amed!!!!!
I guess HP umpires are now okay with catchers moving their glove  
PhiPsi125 : 4/9/2018 9:32 pm : link
six inches to frame a strike call.
damn  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 9:32 pm : link
feels like we shoulda had a few more.

Hopefully Robles has good stuff.

Robles, Ramos, Familia?
The Marlins barely have a major league team and  
PhiPsi125 : 4/9/2018 9:42 pm : link
they are still a pain in the ass.
I wonder why Callaway  
pjcas18 : 4/9/2018 9:44 pm : link
is riding Robles so hard.

He didn't even make the team out of ST, and not positive, but I don't think he'd be using Swarzak this way.

RE: I wonder why Callaway  
arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 10:00 pm : link
In comment 13907232 pjcas18 said:
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is riding Robles so hard.

He didn't even make the team out of ST, and not positive, but I don't think he'd be using Swarzak this way.


I think he's trying to build Robles' confidence. Same reason why I think he's used Rhame in some high lev situations.

He wants these guys to be versatile and able to handle tight situations so that he has more options.

It's risky and dangerous but it's working so far.
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arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 10:00 pm : link
The booth are basically saying the same thing right now, actually.
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arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 10:03 pm : link
Nice work, AJ.

Would be nice to add a run here before Familia comes in to slam the door.
Callaway is definitely more of a cerebral manager  
PhiPsi125 : 4/9/2018 10:12 pm : link
I really like what I see from him.
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arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 10:19 pm : link
Terry had very defined roles for his BP guys and was very rigid about it - he didn't want guys pitching outside of their comfort zone, which severely limited his options and wound up burning our key guys out by using them too often.

Callaway is using his entire 25 man roster. The bench players are all finding ways into games, all of the BP arms are pitching in different situations, and he's keeping everyone involved.

Brilliant managing so far. Easy to say while we're winning and everything is working - but it's hard to find much of anything not to like right now.
Fuck the Marlins!  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/9/2018 10:21 pm : link
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gritty win  
jpkmets : 4/9/2018 10:22 pm : link
given the late night emotional win and flight.

Big time stuff!
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arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 10:22 pm : link
Familia doing what he always does.

Pitches into trouble, pitches out of trouble.

8-1.

Keep cruisin.
Lol vintage Familia  
PhiPsi125 : 4/9/2018 10:22 pm : link
Maybe he just likes the added pressure when he pitches.

Nice win boys. Keep the line moving!
Lucked out a win - but will take it  
Shecky : 4/9/2018 10:24 pm : link
Perhaps the emptiest, lifeless game you’ll ever see...

More importantly, the future Mets:
Tiberi and Fermin staying hot in Columbia. Tiberi has looked fantastic in every game except for one bad one.
Bautista FILTHY again. This time with outstanding control, which will be his key to success. Didn’t crack triple digits, but the ball was moving and upper 90’s all night long.
Alonso with some good ABs
RE: .  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2018 10:25 pm : link
In comment 13907251 arcarsenal said:
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Terry had very defined roles for his BP guys and was very rigid about it - he didn't want guys pitching outside of their comfort zone, which severely limited his options and wound up burning our key guys out by using them too often.

Callaway is using his entire 25 man roster. The bench players are all finding ways into games, all of the BP arms are pitching in different situations, and he's keeping everyone involved.

Brilliant managing so far. Easy to say while we're winning and everything is working - but it's hard to find much of anything not to like right now.


Except for Paul Sewald. Would love to get him some innings to take some stress off Ramos and Gsellman
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arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 10:27 pm : link
In comment 13907260 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13907251 arcarsenal said:


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Terry had very defined roles for his BP guys and was very rigid about it - he didn't want guys pitching outside of their comfort zone, which severely limited his options and wound up burning our key guys out by using them too often.

Callaway is using his entire 25 man roster. The bench players are all finding ways into games, all of the BP arms are pitching in different situations, and he's keeping everyone involved.

Brilliant managing so far. Easy to say while we're winning and everything is working - but it's hard to find much of anything not to like right now.



Except for Paul Sewald. Would love to get him some innings to take some stress off Ramos and Gsellman


Yeah, he will make his way into the mix sooner than later I think.
shecky  
CMicks3110 : 4/9/2018 10:27 pm : link
how did Chris Viall look?
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Rob in Rockaway : 4/9/2018 10:36 pm : link
In comment 13907251 arcarsenal said:
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Terry had very defined roles for his BP guys and was very rigid about it - he didn't want guys pitching outside of their comfort zone, which severely limited his options and wound up burning our key guys out by using them too often.

Callaway is using his entire 25 man roster. The bench players are all finding ways into games, all of the BP arms are pitching in different situations, and he's keeping everyone involved.

Brilliant managing so far. Easy to say while we're winning and everything is working - but it's hard to find much of anything not to like right now.


Nice post Arc agree 100%
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Eric on Li : 4/9/2018 10:43 pm : link
In comment 13907260 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13907251 arcarsenal said:


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Terry had very defined roles for his BP guys and was very rigid about it - he didn't want guys pitching outside of their comfort zone, which severely limited his options and wound up burning our key guys out by using them too often.

Callaway is using his entire 25 man roster. The bench players are all finding ways into games, all of the BP arms are pitching in different situations, and he's keeping everyone involved.

Brilliant managing so far. Easy to say while we're winning and everything is working - but it's hard to find much of anything not to like right now.



Except for Paul Sewald. Would love to get him some innings to take some stress off Ramos and Gsellman


Yeah Sewald rarely getting in has been a little odd. Callaway has definitely done a great job but the combination of Swarzak's injury and the starters not going deep in games still has the BP on a somewhat unsustainable pace. Can't give up games but need to keep getting new guys in the game like they did with Robles. He's not great and like everyone else I'd have been fine to not see him this year because at some point he will meltdown, but when he's on he's good enough to save innings off the better guys.
I wouldn’t worry about burnout  
Shecky : 4/9/2018 10:56 pm : link
Tons of room on the ten day shuttle
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arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 10:59 pm : link
I think we'll be okay.

Gsellman and Lugo have changed the entire complexion of the pen.

Neither guy pitched tonight - Rhame didn't pitch tonight, Blevins only faced one batter. All of them will be available tomorrow. Ramos didn't need to work too hard tonight either.

I bet we see Sewald tomorrow night.
I know they didn't pitch heavy workloads  
Eric on Li : 4/9/2018 11:05 pm : link
but didnt a few guys pitch for the 3rd day in a row today?
Shecky  
CMicks3110 : 4/9/2018 11:06 pm : link
any word on Viall?
RE: I know they didn't pitch heavy workloads  
arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 11:09 pm : link
In comment 13907286 Eric on Li said:
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but didnt a few guys pitch for the 3rd day in a row today?


Only Ramos and Blevins - and most of the outings were less than 1 inning.
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arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 11:10 pm : link
Starters gotta go deeper, though - no doubt.

Jake needs to go 7 tomorrow. Minimum.
RE: Shecky  
Shecky : 4/9/2018 11:12 pm : link
In comment 13907287 CMicks3110 said:
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any word on Viall?

Not a guy I would bother looking at start to start. He’s a mechanical nightmare who realistically is a future pen guy if he fixes everything. When you see him go half a dozen games in a row of dominance, you can start to ask if it clicked.
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spike : 4/9/2018 11:18 pm : link
In comment 13907291 arcarsenal said:
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Starters gotta go deeper, though - no doubt.

Jake needs to go 7 tomorrow. Minimum.


Keep them fresh for the postseason!
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Jim in Fairfax : 4/9/2018 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13907291 arcarsenal said:
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Starters gotta go deeper, though - no doubt.

Jake needs to go 7 tomorrow. Minimum.

I think Callahan is gradually ramping up their pitch counts. Doesn’t seem like a bad idea.
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arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 11:29 pm : link
I mean, look at Kluber and Scherzer today.

Kluber went 8 and struck out 13 - Scherzer went the distance.

That's what elite pitchers can do. Thor has to become that. He is good enough.
I think he'll be that.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/9/2018 11:41 pm : link
But Kluber didn't start posting 200IP seasons until he was 28.
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arcarsenal : 4/9/2018 11:49 pm : link
Scherzer became an elite pitcher at the same age, actually - 28.

He started off as a BP arm for the Diamondbacks and really didn't become a premier SP until he won a CYA in Detroit in 2013. He's been basically untouchable since.

So, I'm not worried about Thor. I don't need complete games, either. But he's our co-ace and I think he's got to find ways to give us more than 6 most times out. That's how good teams keep their bullpens from getting taxed - with elite starters.
8-1 baby  
NyquistX3 : 4/10/2018 12:29 am : link
LGM.
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