Thinking back to Eli's conference call transcript, he mentioned that he would have liked to have invited more receivers but he was the only QB. Webb would have benefitted from being there. Does anyone know if Eli is always the only QB at his Duke workouts?
People need to forget about the notion that Eli is here to mentor players. It isn't his job, and it isn't in his best interest to assist another player to take his job. While he has shown a willingness to work with Webb, let's not make it as part of Eli's job description. When Eli and Webb are watching film this off-season of Minnesota's offense, it isn't to help Webb learn how to watch tape. It just so happens that they have a shared interest in learning an offense that they will be tasked with running.
Just yesterday in Eli's transcript, he mentioned that he looks forward to working with OBJ for years to come. DG and Shurmur have alluded to the notion that they think Eli has years of good football in him. None of the talk from either side feeds into the idea that the Giants or Eli are preparing to move on.
Webb showed up at the practice bubble in shorts and ready to sling and none of his WR's were around to help a brother out!!
People need to forget about the notion that Eli is here to mentor players. It isn't his job, and it isn't in his best interest to assist another player to take his job. While he has shown a willingness to work with Webb, let's not make it as part of Eli's job description. When Eli and Webb are watching film this off-season of Minnesota's offense, it isn't to help Webb learn how to watch tape. It just so happens that they have a shared interest in learning an offense that they will be tasked with running.
Just yesterday in Eli's transcript, he mentioned that he looks forward to working with OBJ for years to come. DG and Shurmur have alluded to the notion that they think Eli has years of good football in him. None of the talk from either side feeds into the idea that the Giants or Eli are preparing to move on.
Exactly... Webb is actually the perfect backup because he is a high ceiling high floor quarterback prospect... Meaning, there is both a "comfortable patience" in terms of grooming him as Eli's backup as well as the locker room clarity that Eli is the quarterback and leader of this team for the next two years...
Eli has likely read about how Webb would be a top-10 pick in every NFL draft with the exception of the draft he was actually in.
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It is Eli's workout. It isn't the Manning passing academy. Eli invites and pays for the receivers to be there. He is not going to pay for other QBs to take some reps on his dime.
People need to forget about the notion that Eli is here to mentor players. It isn't his job, and it isn't in his best interest to assist another player to take his job. While he has shown a willingness to work with Webb, let's not make it as part of Eli's job description. When Eli and Webb are watching film this off-season of Minnesota's offense, it isn't to help Webb learn how to watch tape. It just so happens that they have a shared interest in learning an offense that they will be tasked with running.
Just yesterday in Eli's transcript, he mentioned that he looks forward to working with OBJ for years to come. DG and Shurmur have alluded to the notion that they think Eli has years of good football in him. None of the talk from either side feeds into the idea that the Giants or Eli are preparing to move on.
Exactly... Webb is actually the perfect backup because he is a high ceiling high floor quarterback prospect... Meaning, there is both a "comfortable patience" in terms of grooming him as Eli's backup as well as the locker room clarity that Eli is the quarterback and leader of this team for the next two years...
The only thing I would commit to Eli Is he gets to start the season off as the starter thats it, if he plays bad and team starts off 0-2 0-3 Im pulling Eli for whoever is ahead Webb or Rosen lets say....... please dont tell me Eli is guaranteed to start the whole season and can not be pulled .....After all this team was 3-13 last season and you all know the other won loss numbers over the last 6 years Elis fault or not .......This TEAM needs to start the culture of winning or the bags over the head come next.......
Exactly... Webb is actually the perfect backup because he is a high ceiling high floor quarterback prospect... Meaning, there is both a "comfortable patience" in terms of grooming him as Eli's backup as well as the locker room clarity that Eli is the quarterback and leader of this team for the next two years...
High ceiling, high floor QBs don't last until the 3rd round of the NFL draft. That may be your opinion of Webb, but it is clearly contrary to the bulk of professionals who get paid to do this.
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In comment 13907537 Diver_Down said:
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It is Eli's workout. It isn't the Manning passing academy. Eli invites and pays for the receivers to be there. He is not going to pay for other QBs to take some reps on his dime.
People need to forget about the notion that Eli is here to mentor players. It isn't his job, and it isn't in his best interest to assist another player to take his job. While he has shown a willingness to work with Webb, let's not make it as part of Eli's job description. When Eli and Webb are watching film this off-season of Minnesota's offense, it isn't to help Webb learn how to watch tape. It just so happens that they have a shared interest in learning an offense that they will be tasked with running.
Just yesterday in Eli's transcript, he mentioned that he looks forward to working with OBJ for years to come. DG and Shurmur have alluded to the notion that they think Eli has years of good football in him. None of the talk from either side feeds into the idea that the Giants or Eli are preparing to move on.
Exactly... Webb is actually the perfect backup because he is a high ceiling high floor quarterback prospect... Meaning, there is both a "comfortable patience" in terms of grooming him as Eli's backup as well as the locker room clarity that Eli is the quarterback and leader of this team for the next two years...
The only thing I would commit to Eli Is he gets to start the season off as the starter thats it, if he plays bad and team starts off 0-2 0-3 Im pulling Eli for whoever is ahead Webb or Rosen lets say....... please dont tell me Eli is guaranteed to start the whole season and can not be pulled .....After all this team was 3-13 last season and you all know the other won loss numbers over the last 6 years Elis fault or not .......This TEAM needs to start the culture of winning or the bags over the head come next.......
And that is fair. If Webb or the assumed draft pick is better than Eli, than by all means. I wouldn't make that assumption. By laying out a losing scenario, I hope you are open to a winning scenario. With actual adults running the show, if Eli along with a decent OL and healthy WRs produce a winning season (playoffs in this scenario), do you support the organization recommitting to Eli? At the end of this season, he would have 1 year remaining on his contract. If the winning scenario plays out, DG along with Shurmur might decide that a winning future includes Eli and extends him for 2 years similar to Brees' latest extension. Or are you at a replace Eli at all costs position?
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Exactly... Webb is actually the perfect backup because he is a high ceiling high floor quarterback prospect... Meaning, there is both a "comfortable patience" in terms of grooming him as Eli's backup as well as the locker room clarity that Eli is the quarterback and leader of this team for the next two years...
High ceiling, high floor QBs don't last until the 3rd round of the NFL draft. That may be your opinion of Webb, but it is clearly contrary to the bulk of professionals who get paid to do this.
Of course it is a non-professional opinion - which is about 95% of the banter on this site... but like Reese, I too was surprised that he lasted until the third round last year and therefore thought it was a smart pick given the developmental runway that he needs and the luxury of time that we have with Eli. I completely understand the disagreement with this opinion - it is why there is a total lack of consensus on Webb on this site...
You saw him too? He better not get caught.
High ceiling, high floor QBs don't last until the 3rd round of the NFL draft. That may be your opinion of Webb, but it is clearly contrary to the bulk of professionals who get paid to do this.
My guess is he misspoke, and meant low floor, high ceiling. Yeah, high ceiling, high floor guys go early.
Lol, I literally laughed out loud when I read this.
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High ceiling, high floor QBs don't last until the 3rd round of the NFL draft. That may be your opinion of Webb, but it is clearly contrary to the bulk of professionals who get paid to do this.
Yes - my mistake... low floor high ceiling. Thx.
My guess is he misspoke, and meant low floor, high ceiling. Yeah, high ceiling, high floor guys go early.
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In comment 13907537 Diver_Down said:
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It is Eli's workout. It isn't the Manning passing academy. Eli invites and pays for the receivers to be there. He is not going to pay for other QBs to take some reps on his dime.
People need to forget about the notion that Eli is here to mentor players. It isn't his job, and it isn't in his best interest to assist another player to take his job. While he has shown a willingness to work with Webb, let's not make it as part of Eli's job description. When Eli and Webb are watching film this off-season of Minnesota's offense, it isn't to help Webb learn how to watch tape. It just so happens that they have a shared interest in learning an offense that they will be tasked with running.
Just yesterday in Eli's transcript, he mentioned that he looks forward to working with OBJ for years to come. DG and Shurmur have alluded to the notion that they think Eli has years of good football in him. None of the talk from either side feeds into the idea that the Giants or Eli are preparing to move on.
Exactly... Webb is actually the perfect backup because he is a high ceiling high floor quarterback prospect... Meaning, there is both a "comfortable patience" in terms of grooming him as Eli's backup as well as the locker room clarity that Eli is the quarterback and leader of this team for the next two years...
The only thing I would commit to Eli Is he gets to start the season off as the starter thats it, if he plays bad and team starts off 0-2 0-3 Im pulling Eli for whoever is ahead Webb or Rosen lets say....... please dont tell me Eli is guaranteed to start the whole season and can not be pulled .....After all this team was 3-13 last season and you all know the other won loss numbers over the last 6 years Elis fault or not .......This TEAM needs to start the culture of winning or the bags over the head come next.......
And that is fair. If Webb or the assumed draft pick is better than Eli, than by all means. I wouldn't make that assumption. By laying out a losing scenario, I hope you are open to a winning scenario. With actual adults running the show, if Eli along with a decent OL and healthy WRs produce a winning season (playoffs in this scenario), do you support the organization recommitting to Eli? At the end of this season, he would have 1 year remaining on his contract. If the winning scenario plays out, DG along with Shurmur might decide that a winning future includes Eli and extends him for 2 years similar to Brees' latest extension. Or are you at a replace Eli at all costs position?
Great retort diver down ...... actually Im in favor of Eli starting the year off as the starter hes earned that of course and I hope and I think hes going to do well because I think hes embarrassed by all that happened and has a lot to prove I mean its quite possible with a line and good defense Eli could have a banner year..... Im just pointing out what could or should happen if things go bad ..... Im the eternal pessimist maybe thats why Im on my third wife LOL 😝 BUT I still think they should draft a QB at #2 and my man is Mayfield but I dont think Giants will pull the trigger so therefore Im Rosen first Darnold second choice guy.......
This.