NFT: Mets at Marlins Game 2. Mets go for seven in a row!

kind of amazing to see this kind of start without any of the starters even pitching that well.

Flores needs to play more!

This team is stacked! The starters have to go deeper though.

GO Wheels!

Pretty cool to hear Mickey say that he's been asking Ces repeatedly if he needs a day and Ces doesn't want to sit. Guy is a gamer.

in Mets history

No more chronic nagging injuries.

Let Bruce play!

Thor and Jake to dominate for us to have any chance, and that still may play out over the long haul, but right now if our starter keeps us close, this team is winning the game.

Great start. Feels good.

Thor/deGrom have been a little off. Matz/Harvey seem to be up and down and working on things but better overall than last year obviously. The hitters have been mostly cold outsid eof maybe Cabrera/Bruce. So much ceiling yet untapped. I want Swarzak back because I feel with him, Ramos, Lugo, Gsellman, and Familia we can seriously just KO teams once we have the lead. We are winning no with guys like Robles, and Rhame. Clearly B options.

Any idea when we'll see Swarz back?

(I haven't really been following the timetables since he got hurt)

In comment 13908791 arcarsenal said:

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Any idea when we'll see Swarz back?

They shut him down to rest it for a while. So far he has not been cleared to begin throwing again from what I've heard. Hopefully, they are about to start him up again soon.

Im guessing we see Wheeler for at least 2 starts but we'll see.

Hopefully it won't linger too long. If he comes back and pitches like he did last year, this pen is going to be very good.

In comment 13908801 arcarsenal said:

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Hopefully it won't linger too long. If he comes back and pitches like he did last year, this pen is going to be very good.

He was pretty lights out the first couple of games this year. You could tell his stuff was nasty and Mickey was going to be leaning on him big time. Sucks he's out but hey... we are 9-1.

Oswalt down for Wheeler. Talk about a short stay.

and both of his hits have been game winners.

And start Bruce

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And start Bruce

Its another lefty starter so I doubt it. Lagares and Flores will be in again. Ces likely as well.

When you are 9-1

What a difference this year.

The starters haven’t even hit their stride yet.

Is much better than the rigid Collins

No one has an issue with Calloway not sitting ces when he wants to bc the player 'wants to play' while sick and slumping?

And this is Ces team, not Mickeys yet.
He just won over his players even more, while allowing Ces to earn more respect in the clubhouse. When people have questioned his dedication.

It’s not like he will further injure his flu and risk being out a month...

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Oswalt down for Wheeler. Talk about a short stay.

Validates sending Nimmo down even more.

In comment 13908790 ZGiants98 said:

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Thor/deGrom have been a little off. Matz/Harvey seem to be up and down and working on things but better overall than last year obviously. The hitters have been mostly cold outsid eof maybe Cabrera/Bruce. So much ceiling yet untapped. I want Swarzak back because I feel with him, Ramos, Lugo, Gsellman, and Familia we can seriously just KO teams once we have the lead. We are winning no with guys like Robles, and Rhame. Clearly B options.

totally agree but honestly, Robles has been lights out and has already proven he can overcome a mistake or 2. I wouldnt mess with that just yet.

Rhame handled Sunday night pretty well IMO

Let Swarzak heal and go through the proper motions.

In comment 13908895 JayBinQueens said:

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No one has an issue with Calloway not sitting ces when he wants to bc the player 'wants to play' while sick and slumping?

Not really. He did have a big hit the night before and also some big hits the series before. It's not like he was hurting the team. He just wasn't playing his best.

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No one has an issue with Calloway not sitting ces when he wants to bc the player 'wants to play' while sick and slumping?

No, if you heard Mickey talk about it, his logic was fine - he asked Ces several times if he wanted a blow. Ces said no. He doesn't want to sit and he had enough conviction behind it that Mickey decided to let him play.

If Cespedes is vigilant about wanting to be out there, he should be. Even when he's sick and aching he's still capable of delivering a huge hit like he did last night (and against WSH)

He's still our best hitter. (Although I think Scooter will have something to say about that by year's end...)

If he says he can go, let him play.

at 1b last night in warm-ups.

My question is can Jay Bruce play firstbase effectively?

In comment 13909110 Rory said:

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at 1b last night in warm-ups. My question is can Jay Bruce play firstbase effectively?

They were saying during the broadcast that the only reason he didn't take reps at 1b in the spring was because he had hurt his foot and they were just focusing on him getting healthy.
I think they'd like him to be able to play first but your question still stands; can he play it effectively

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In comment 13908898 Shecky said:

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And this is Ces team, not Mickeys yet. He just won over his players even more, while allowing Ces to earn more respect in the clubhouse. When people have questioned his dedication. It’s not like he will further injure his flu and risk being out a month...

That's a pretty good explanation.

It's really just a good reflection on Cespedes if nothing else. He made it clear that it's important to him to be out there for his team. Gotta love that.

of course winning helps, but the way they fight back, don't make excuses, etc.

I'm assuming Reyes?

Wilmer

In comment 13909279 arcarsenal said:

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Wilmer

Over Reyes?

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In comment 13909279 arcarsenal said: Quote: Wilmer Over Reyes?

1000% yes.

Reyes' defense has degraded quite a bit. He's really not much better defensively (if at all) than Wilmer at this point. I'd trust Reyes over Wilmer @ SS only from an experience standpoint.

But Wilmer has played like 90 career games @ 2B. He has plenty of experience there and is a much, much better hitter.

The tradeoff of having Wilmer's bat for the negligible difference in defense makes it a no-brainer.

Reyes might be finished. He looks close.

(Not based on anything said here). I just feel like people can’t wait to kill him. He’s had 11 plate appearances this year. He was basically a starter last year and he was ice cold the first three weeks but after that he went right back to his career averages offensively from that point until the rest of the year. He ended up a 2fWAR player.

Obviously, getting so few chances he might never get really “going” this year but isn’t he still miles better than a Chris Woodward type in reserve?

I still like Jose - I think he's good to have on the bench for now.

But he's 35 years old. He's clearly nowhere near the player he used to be.

People here would really prefer him playing 2B over Wilmer? I think that's crazy. Wilmer is a much better player right now.

Some guy off his meds that despises Reyes. He calls him the “virus”. He calls into talk radio stations and disguises who he is. Once the host catches on they end the call but not before him blasting Reyes the virus. It’s actually quite funny. He posts and gets banned on popular Mets sites and has gotten national recognition with most of the beats. I haven’t seen it discussed here but it’s quite comical.

In comment 13909406 arcarsenal said:

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I still like Jose - I think he's good to have on the bench for now. But he's 35 years old. He's clearly nowhere near the player he used to be. People here would really prefer him playing 2B over Wilmer? I think that's crazy. Wilmer is a much better player right now.

No I like Wilmer more too. Just saying for a 25th man that can still run he offers value. He’s better than guys like Miguel Cairo or whoever else we’ve had in that spot.

And Blue Jays chances just from being on their teams and infected our clubhouse last year. Lol

Yeah, absolutely - I'm not saying run Reyes off the team. But it's possible he may be finished sooner than later. He's getting up there.

I'd still give him at least 2-3 months before I even considered trying to fill his spot with someone else.

I think there's added benefit in that he and Rosario are attached at the hip. He seems to be a good mentor for Amed. They're best buddies - so it's good having Jose around.

In comment 13909399 ZGiants98 said:

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(Not based on anything said here). I just feel like people can’t wait to kill him. He’s had 11 plate appearances this year. He was basically a starter last year and he was ice cold the first three weeks but after that he went right back to his career averages offensively from that point until the rest of the year. He ended up a 2fWAR player. Obviously, getting so few chances he might never get really “going” this year but isn’t he still miles better than a Chris Woodward type in reserve?

.174 in March/April, .216 in May, .213 in June (75 games) . It was more than a rough "3 weeks". He did finish strong but he was awful for an entire half.

In comment 13909423 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13909399 ZGiants98 said: Quote: (Not based on anything said here). I just feel like people can’t wait to kill him. He’s had 11 plate appearances this year. He was basically a starter last year and he was ice cold the first three weeks but after that he went right back to his career averages offensively from that point until the rest of the year. He ended up a 2fWAR player. Obviously, getting so few chances he might never get really “going” this year but isn’t he still miles better than a Chris Woodward type in reserve? .174 in March/April, .216 in May, .213 in June (75 games) . It was more than a rough "3 weeks". He did finish strong but he was awful for an entire half.

His month splits don’t work for me because he had a few hot and cold spells that went over month periods so it’s not a clean break monthly. If you simply remove his first three weeks in April where he was brutal he hit over league average for the season which is right around career averages. It’s really not worth arguing about though as that’s clearly not my point. If anything proving that Reyes took even longer to get it going enhances my point that Reyes should get more rope.

the team shouldn't have brought back Reyes. What he did to his wife was disgusting and I wish the Mets took the high road and refused to associate with him.

I'm not going to bring it up a million times all season on BBI and make the threads toxic, so don't worry about that, but that might be the reason why a lot of people dislike Reyes. My sister had a 41 game plan for 5 years running and cancelled once they got Reyes and won't renew until he's gone. I doubt she's the only one.

and TJ Rivera are both logical candidates at first glance to replace Reyes at some point this season but I guess neither one of them can really play SS, and you need a backup there, so maybe he stays all year. We did go to the world series with flores playing at SS, but it looks like the organization has decided (probably rightfully so) that he's not an option there, even in a backup capacity.

for a player-coach who was from the previous 2006 playoff regime who would symbolize the transition to the new regime, a role that Wright was given but could not achieve because of injuries.

Reyes signing with the Marlins really hurt the fanbase and this was an attempt to make up for it.

I like Reyes as a utility guy especially in helping mentoring Rosario. Its a good fit