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NFT: Knicks fire Hornacek!!

LawrenceTaylor56 : 4/12/2018 1:44 am
Just got the alert on my phone.
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Woj reporting, so it's legit.  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2018 2:19 am : link
Dealt a bad hand, but this is the right move. Mills and Perry need to get their guy and move forward with him.
Rambis also out!  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2018 2:21 am : link
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Came on here to post this.  
Mike from SI : 4/12/2018 2:30 am : link
Onwards and upwards fellas.
Fizdale, Blatt, Jackson, and Stackhouse  
Canton : 4/12/2018 2:37 am : link
Are the coaches expected to get interviews.
First the Rangers  
old man : 4/12/2018 2:52 am : link
Now the Knicks.

Things are looking up for the big city.
Fizdale, Blatt and Stackhouse are excellent choices.  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2018 3:05 am : link
Mark Jackson would be a disaster.
RE: Fizdale, Blatt and Stackhouse are excellent choices.  
Mike from SI : 4/12/2018 3:48 am : link
In comment 13910532 bceagle05 said:
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Mark Jackson would be a disaster.


Out of curiosity, why are you against Jackson?
Well, the Golden State owner  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2018 4:14 am : link
said Jackson didn't get along well with anyone in their organization - if he was unhappy there, I can't imagine how miserable he'll be here. He's also had a bunch of locker room issues dating back to his playing days. More of a preacher than an Xs and Os guy, too. I think it speaks volumes that he hasn't sniffed a job since Golden State, given how good his record was there - the league has stayed far away from him. I don't want to be the team that gambles.
Big news here is "defensive guru" Rambis was also  
TheMick7 : 4/12/2018 5:36 am : link
let go I thought he might be turning into Herb Williams! I'm in the Fizdale camp,young ,energetic,defensive minded coach!
WELCOME BACK, ISIAH!  
GiantFilthy : 4/12/2018 6:17 am : link
No Mark Jackson  
Oscar : 4/12/2018 6:19 am : link
I think Stackhouse would be interesting though.
They handled this right. Gave him a shot and he hung himself.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/12/2018 6:26 am : link
Move on.
Kurt Rambis and Tom Quinn gone in the same year?  
mfsd : 4/12/2018 7:35 am : link
Whats next, the sun rises in the West?
Blatt or fizdale please  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2018 7:38 am : link
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DanMetroMan : 4/12/2018 7:51 am : link
an Begley

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5m5 minutes ago
More Ian Begley Retweeted ESPN New York
A look at some Knicks coaching candidates, including Jeff Van Gundy. Worth noting: One coach with ties to Van Gundy believes JVG would have interest in the Knicks job if management approached him. Several current Knicks would be in favor of Van Gundy's return.
Here is my thing with van gundy  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2018 7:55 am : link
Is he going to change his offensive philosophy to match the new era of basketball? No doubt he can coach defense...

And 1 more thing you in now if he is hired he is bringing mark jackson with him..

That should fix everything  
HomerJones45 : 4/12/2018 8:18 am : link
Knicks are a joke
ho hum. NEXT  
Victor in CT : 4/12/2018 8:19 am : link
Dolan is still owner. Nothing will change
RE: ho hum. NEXT  
GFAN52 : 4/12/2018 8:23 am : link
In comment 13910588 Victor in CT said:
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Dolan is still owner. Nothing will change


Bingo! Same old, same old.
Not sure if the JVG stuff is true...  
Chris684 : 4/12/2018 8:25 am : link
If so, they better call him.

If not, bring in Mark Jackson.
Hornacek was always going to be fired  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2018 8:26 am : link
Unless the Knicks made some kind of run, new management are always going to look for their own coach..

And can we stop blaming dolan, by all accounts he stays away now...
RE: Not sure if the JVG stuff is true...  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2018 8:27 am : link
In comment 13910596 Chris684 said:
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If so, they better call him.

If not, bring in Mark Jackson.


No mark jackson
I want Nick Nurse from Toronto  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 4/12/2018 8:27 am : link
His resume:

D League coach of the year
2x D-League champion
Coached and won 2 championships in Europe
Now in charge of the Raptors offense



Mark Jackson is a terrific HC  
Chris684 : 4/12/2018 8:27 am : link
why not?
RE: Mark Jackson is a terrific HC  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 4/12/2018 8:31 am : link
In comment 13910601 Chris684 said:
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why not?


Because he's not?
RE: Mark Jackson is a terrific HC  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2018 8:33 am : link
In comment 13910601 Chris684 said:
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why not?


I think he is a good coach but there is a lot of stuff out there about how he fought with management and how he pushes his faith on players, just don't think it will play well in new york
He's absolutely a good HC...  
Chris684 : 4/12/2018 8:34 am : link
A lot better than some of the names mentioned above.
I'm sure Mark is a smart enough guy to learn from his mistakes  
Canton : 4/12/2018 8:35 am : link
with the warriors. He's still had success there. He's
definitely a viable option as head coach.
It's  
Jon in NYC : 4/12/2018 8:38 am : link
a good group to be choosing from, but there are some concerns.

Jackson is a hard pass from me. Everyone hated him and the team immediately improved once he left.

Fizdale people seem to like, but I was never super impressed when listening to him on ESPN, and he really only had one good year. After the year he also got into a huge power struggle with his star player and got the boot. Red flags all over the place.

Stackhouse is high risk high reward for me. Very little track record, but he seems to be well respected and has had success.

Blatt has won everywhere he has gone. He seems to me to make a lot of sense with maybe Stack in the Rambis role if he'd take it.
RE: Hornacek was always going to be fired  
Victor in CT : 4/12/2018 8:38 am : link
In comment 13910597 nygiants16 said:
[quote] Unless the Knicks made some kind of run, new management are always going to look for their own coach..

And can we stop blaming dolan, by all accounts he stays away now... [/quot

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Jackson's an egotistical ass. I recall him saying to Ewing that  
yatqb : 4/12/2018 8:39 am : link
he was the best point guard in basketball, and when Ewing demurred, he admitted something to the effect of, "OK, Magic, but I'm second". To get fired after a successful year at Golden State says a lot about the guy.
RE: Jackson's an egotistical ass. I recall him saying to Ewing that  
Victor in CT : 4/12/2018 8:42 am : link
In comment 13910620 yatqb said:
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he was the best point guard in basketball, and when Ewing demurred, he admitted something to the effect of, "OK, Magic, but I'm second". To get fired after a successful year at Golden State says a lot about the guy.


It was actually Rick Pitino (another asshole) who made that ridiculous comment.
Frank Vogel fired  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2018 8:43 am : link
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If the Knicks dont dramatically  
RetroJint : 4/12/2018 8:45 am : link
improve their roster, it doesnt matter whom they choose to be their HC. The Knicks have been losing because of their players, not their coaches . If the Giants arent careful, they will turn into the Knicks l, if the transformation hasnt already occurred .

From above , you dont want Jackson , who fights with everybody, but you consider Blatt? Strange .
RE: If the Knicks dont dramatically  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2018 8:50 am : link
In comment 13910628 RetroJint said:
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improve their roster, it doesnt matter whom they choose to be their HC. The Knicks have been losing because of their players, not their coaches . If the Giants arent careful, they will turn into the Knicks l, if the transformation hasnt already occurred .

From above , you dont want Jackson , who fights with everybody, but you consider Blatt? Strange .


Blatt fought with lebron, you realize lebron wanted spoelstra fired as well who is one of the best coaches in the nba...

Why did they wait?  
Archer : 4/12/2018 8:59 am : link
Hornacek could not win when it counted but won two meaningless games against Chicago and Cleveland which cost the Knicks two draft spots

Hornacek was coaching to save his job by winning and at the expense of developing players

How come the Knicks never land guys like Stevens, one of  
yatqb : 4/12/2018 8:59 am : link
the great coaches in college and now the NBA? Big names? Headlines? the shiny, as Davisian says?
RE: Why did they wait?  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2018 9:00 am : link
In comment 13910641 Archer said:
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Hornacek could not win when it counted but won two meaningless games against Chicago and Cleveland which cost the Knicks two draft spots

Hornacek was coaching to save his job by winning and at the expense of developing players


Did you see who was playing last night in the 4th?
The Knicks are actually an ideal fit for Jackson  
Chris684 : 4/12/2018 9:02 am : link
especially if you are of the belief that this organization needs someone to come in and make things uncomfortable.

I'm not advocating coming in and getting involved in matters of one's faith, I'm just saying, if I believe the guy knows basketball, a little rigidity and toughness can go a long way. Are we worried about hurting Porz's feelings?
RE: The Knicks are actually an ideal fit for Jackson  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2018 9:05 am : link
In comment 13910645 Chris684 said:
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especially if you are of the belief that this organization needs someone to come in and make things uncomfortable.

I'm not advocating coming in and getting involved in matters of one's faith, I'm just saying, if I believe the guy knows basketball, a little rigidity and toughness can go a long way. Are we worried about hurting Porz's feelings?


Toughness is not the reason people don't want him
It got  
Jon in NYC : 4/12/2018 9:05 am : link
overlooked last night, for good reason, but Frank dropped another 16 on good percentages.
Then what's the reason?  
Chris684 : 4/12/2018 9:07 am : link
He's super religious, fine. As long as he's not beating someone's knuckles with a ruler like the old nuns used to. Who cares?
RE: Then what's the reason?  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2018 9:13 am : link
In comment 13910653 Chris684 said:
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He's super religious, fine. As long as he's not beating someone's knuckles with a ruler like the old nuns used to. Who cares?


Supposedly he forced his players to go to church services and believe what he believed...

Also he had a terrible relationship with management, if he had a good relationship probably still be coaching the warriors..

There is a reason why he has not gotten a look since the warriors
RE: Then what's the reason?  
DanMetroMan : 4/12/2018 9:15 am : link
In comment 13910653 Chris684 said:
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He's super religious, fine. As long as he's not beating someone's knuckles with a ruler like the old nuns used to. Who cares?


Chris,
Multiple reports he pitted the religious players against those who wouldn't buy in. Would use religion as part of his coaching and also apparently supported a "bullying" locker room in which he would hand pick targets. No thank you.
One such blurb  
DanMetroMan : 4/12/2018 9:16 am : link
""Kerr overhauled a team culture that had grown poisonous, for well-documented reasons, under Jackson and his assistants. In his zeal to motivate players, Jackson fostered resentment among them and toward the front office. He fired two assistants, requested Jerry West stay away from practices, and asked a younger front-office official to stop rebounding for players, sources have said.

When Festus Ezeli was injured last season, Jackson and his staff told the healthy players that Ezeli was cheering against them so that he would look good, according to several team sources. Players confronted Ezeli in a meeting, and he wept at the accusation which he denied.""
From Woj  
DanMetroMan : 4/12/2018 9:18 am : link
""In the end, here was the problem for Klutch Sports' original plan: Cleveland refused to hire Jackson. General manager David Griffin is too well-connected in the NBA, too knowledgeable of the truths inside Jackson's Warriors regime to let that happen."
If you think the head coach is what's wrong with this organization  
Shirk130 : 4/12/2018 9:18 am : link
you haven't been paying attention for the last 20 years. They have been a mess and it starts at the top.
Mark  
DanMetroMan : 4/12/2018 9:18 am : link
Jackson would be a disaster. A true disaster.
if Jackson is even  
Enzo : 4/12/2018 9:21 am : link
brought in for an interview it would be a huge red flag that this front office doesn't know what they're doing. As for Hornacek - yes having the two best players on the team miss significant time didn't help but I just couldn't get behind a guy that had us running a stone age offense.
RE: if Jackson is even  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2018 9:26 am : link
In comment 13910681 Enzo said:
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brought in for an interview it would be a huge red flag that this front office doesn't know what they're doing. As for Hornacek - yes having the two best players on the team miss significant time didn't help but I just couldn't get behind a guy that had us running a stone age offense.


He is goin to be interviewed I don't think there is any question about that...

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