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Some insight to the #Giants thinking via @AlbertBreer: GM Dave Gettleman really likes USC QB Sam Darnold. Coaches like Wyoming QB Josh Allen. Everyone in the organization likes Penn St. RB Saquon Barkley. They've done their homework on DE Marcus Davenport in case they trade down.
How is that even slightly news?
Agreed if DG wants Darnold, and Shurmur wants Allen or Rosen and they go with Barkley because that is who Mara wants then we are in trouble.
This is the downside of social media. One is better to type a tweet that says nothing to stay on people's feeds than to actually provide insight.
BBI 2018: No one knows who we want! This is so frustrating!
Leads off the piece by saying he has it from multiple sources that Browns are still in decision process re Darnold vs Allen.
MMBQ 4/12 - ( New Window )
The only time I can recall the owner being involved was Wellington going with the Eli trade
I'd be ok with SD; Allen, ugh:-(.
If it's a battle royale, just go SQ ,or trade it it's right.
I think it's funny that you find entertainment. Show proof Mara has not let the GM make drafting decisions.
Like I said the only time I recall the owner ever putting his input in anything draft related was the Eli trade. Of course a situation like that would require any owners input
Agree 100% with this. I have asked some other posters on other threads why they think their evaluation of a QB is likely better than the one DG, Shurmur, Shula and the scouts did, and I have never gotten an answer. I get having an opinion on who you think is the best, but getting angry if they don't take that guy? It means you think you are better at this part time than the professionals doing it full time. Baffling.
I am not a big Allen fan, but if they take him at #2 I am going to be pretty excited that they think they can harness all of those physical gifts into a top flight QB. And if they don't take him (if available) I will assume they concluded they can't do that. Either way, I trust them to make that call much more than I trust my own ability to do it.
Holy shit, we've come full circle. arniefez used to beat the drum that the owners were inept and didn't care what decisions were made as long as asses were in the seats, not they are pulling the strings on draft day?
I wish I was making that up!!
So if you are to believe that, then yea, Mara's influence can certainly factor in.
What is such a joke about that?
Another note on premature evaluations based on gurus observations of college stats:
Watson was ALSO deemed less than elite because of "inaccuracy" at Clemson. He ended up doing reasonably well; there are more than one indicators of pro success.
So if you are to believe that, then yea, Mara's influence can certainly factor in.
What is such a joke about that?
Marc Ross stated Mayfield is his favorite among the QB class.
Darnold, with his character and the way he goes about handling himself has been a safe guess for who NYG likes. The problem is, he more than likely will be drafted @1.
FWIW, I heard the Mara's have been hands on. Obviously there's trust in Gettleman as a talent evaluator but the Mara's have not been absent during this process.
Watson was a 67.4% accurate passer in college. And he was really consistent always being in close range to that 67%
LOL - this. Exactly.
snow is cold
Seriously, is he auditioning to be the new Captain Obvious?
What's your evidence to the contrary? If you are so certain Mara meddles in drafting, site some actual, hard, factual evidence not just your snark.
This is an excellent point.
What is your favorite Wellington Mara memory?
A: It was the Justin Tuck draft [in 2005]. He had an injury, he was hurt his last year in college. We turn around and Jerry [Reese, former GM] said, “Man, I’d love to take this guy in the third round. I’d love it if this guy was in the third round.” Third round comes, we’re talking about some players, and Justin’s one of ’em. And Wellington leaned forward and said, “We discussed this already. We said we’d be thrilled if he was here in the third round. Why are we talking about it?”
So lets add it up. If Wellington was involved in discussions of something like the drafting of a 3rd round pick. What kind of involvement will John Mara have in the 2 pick?
The Maras are gonna set the example for the direction and tone of what they are looking for from the outset. They will give their GM freedom to operate under that direction. Gettleman will not make a pick outside of those parameters but make no mistake they will set the parameters.
There will not be a pick made by Gettleman that the Maras dont like. Because the Maras were involved from the outset into the thinking. The Maras wont dictate the individual selection. But lets not fool ourselves into thinking that they have no say.
How is that even slightly news?
If its a QB - I'm good with Darnold, Mayfield, or Rosen.
That's in alphabetical order BTW.
So lets add it up. If Wellington was involved in discussions of something like the drafting of a 3rd round pick. What kind of involvement will John Mara have in the 2 pick?/[quote]
So, the GM and not the owner says, “Man, I’d love to take this guy in the third round. Again, the GM said this, now 3rd round comes and tuck is still on the board. There is a discussion of who to take and Wellington reminds the GM of what he said earlier, but it's ownership involved in the drafting of players???
John obviously has signoff authority, but he doesn't fancy himself a scout. His expertise is in maximizing revenue. He's as likely to ask which QB will sell the most jerseys as which one can throw a deep seam to Evan Engram.
I love Darnold, but the argument for Allen is more than compelling.
Strongest Arm
Highest wonderlic
Played in the cold
Big strong, mobile
Great personality
If the coaching staff likes him better, that should be very very telling.
Is it mute?
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A lot like ELI tough smart and a big arm. He will not break if he is tackled, and can extend plays. Do not think we are going QB so it is mute.
Is it mute?
Yes. People are talking about it but nobody can hear them.
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A lot like ELI tough smart and a big arm. He will not break if he is tackled, and can extend plays. Do not think we are going QB so it is mute.
Is it mute?
Yes. People are talking about it but nobody can hear them.
What???
Wouldn't you rather have someone here 10+ years who only goes through one HC, just like Brady has?
With that said, I've heard nothing that leads me to believe Shurmur is off the rails or anything, just saying ...