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OT Tyrell Crosby visiting Giants today

YANKEE28 : 4/13/2018 8:25 am
has an official visit with Giants.

Voted Offensive Lineman of the Year by both opposing players and opposing coaches in 2017.

Likely a RT in the NFL.
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I would like him in round 2  
Rjanyg : 4/13/2018 8:32 am : link
I can see NE taking him at 31 though.
Good, check  
TommyWiseau : 4/13/2018 8:35 am : link
out all these Olineman. I would like to draft two "hog mollies" this year, one in the second round and one in the third.
if he were there  
Pep22 : 4/13/2018 8:41 am : link
and they got him, I wonder if a 4th or even a 5th may be acquired for Flowers

If so, would you prefer:

Flowers + RD2 interior OL i.e. Will Hernandez

or

Tyrell Crosby + RD5 interior OL i.e. Tony Adams, who I happen to like
He is a Gettleman  
Sy'56 : 4/13/2018 8:42 am : link
type OL
Would put isntant heat on Flowers  
JonC : 4/13/2018 8:53 am : link
since it doesn't seem he's feeling it yet.
I would be shocked if the Giants 2nd round pick  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2018 9:36 am : link
isn't an offensive linemen. There are just going to be too many attractive options available. The only other positions I could see them taking is a CB or ER. At least a few out of Wynn, Hernandez, Price, Daniels, Smith, Miller, Crosby, O'Neill, and Ragnow will be on the board.
RE: Would put isntant heat on Flowers  
Bill in UT : 4/13/2018 9:41 am : link
In comment 13912500 JonC said:
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since it doesn't seem he's feeling it yet.


I just see Flowers as a sulking, spoiled brat who will never again be a Giant mentally/emotionally, even if he comes back physically. I don't think putting heat on him over a job is going to mean squat. He'll be playing elsewhere this year or not at all, imho
RE: RE: Would put isntant heat on Flowers  
Brown Recluse : 4/13/2018 9:50 am : link
In comment 13912596 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 13912500 JonC said:


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since it doesn't seem he's feeling it yet.



I just see Flowers as a sulking, spoiled brat who will never again be a Giant mentally/emotionally, even if he comes back physically. I don't think putting heat on him over a job is going to mean squat. He'll be playing elsewhere this year or not at all, imho


Damn millenials!!
Bill  
JonC : 4/13/2018 9:52 am : link
Tend to agree so this starts the final countdown for him.
I  
AcidTest : 4/13/2018 10:02 am : link
think we could see Flowers traded on draft day, either for a day three pick, or to move up in a round.
Flowers  
YANKEE28 : 4/13/2018 10:14 am : link
former coach in college is Al Golden.

Golden spent '16 and '17 as the tight end coach for Detroit Lions.

Even with all the coaching changes in Detroit, new head coach Matt Patricia decided to retain Al Golden, though he will be the linebacker coach this year.

Not speculating that a trade of Flowers is on the table. Just pointing out an interesting fact regarding Flowers and his former college coach.

Crosby  
Peppers : 4/13/2018 11:12 am : link
He's sorta like Hernandez in that he's an extremely nice kid off the field but once its game time he flips that switch.

A lot of guys I talk to think he's a guard. While that bothers me with most prospects because I think evaluators have become overly skeptical of OTs and are too quick to move them to OG (somebody has to play Tackle lol) I actually might agree here.. but I like the, "prove to me you aren't a tackle first" approach. His technique, hands, and footwork clearly need to improve in pass sets and he struggles with rushers crossing his body. The 17 reps at the combine along with the technique issues raised some questions with me about how hard he'll work.

At RT I think his ceiling is Jermey Parnell.

Just a side note: While watching Crosby, if you get a chance, watch #68 Shane Lemieux the LG. Little reminiscent of David Diehl. He's only a Sophomore.

Third round I could see  
jeff57 : 4/13/2018 11:13 am : link
But not worth the 34th pick.
I for one, would not be shocked if the pick at #34 is  
Dave : 4/13/2018 11:17 am : link
a cb, dl, wr, or even a rb or lb..

lots of needs here, gotta stick to their board and not reach to fill spots
RE: Third round I could see  
Peppers : 4/13/2018 11:18 am : link
In comment 13912824 jeff57 said:
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But not worth the 34th pick.


I agree, 34 is too early especially considering the other talent that will likely be available.
Peppers  
aimrocky : 4/13/2018 11:26 am : link
yesterday you mentioned the top 3 were set or close to it. Who have you heard would be the top 3, and who's trying to move up to 4 and for what?
I really like this guy  
Old Dirty : 4/13/2018 12:24 pm : link
and think he can start at guard for a couple years before trying him out at tackle. If anything, he should make for a pretty good guard. Maybe he could be a pick at #21 in a trade down with Buffalo. Not sure he lasts until #34.
RE: Peppers  
Peppers : 4/13/2018 5:15 pm : link
In comment 13912856 aimrocky said:
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yesterday you mentioned the top 3 were set or close to it. Who have you heard would be the top 3, and who's trying to move up to 4 and for what?


3 QBs - Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield - as the top 3 picks. The only player who might change that is Chubb @ 2.

The feeling is pick 2 is about as available as Beckham was. So in other words, they'll take calls but will need to be absolutely blown away. I know that isn't saying much but that's really all that's out there about that.

Buffalo and Denver like Rosen but how much are they willing to give up? It will take a lot regardless of how NYG feels about the QBs and again the feeling is neither team is that desperate.

Pick 4 is where it really gets murky. They say the pick is movable but I heard they like Denzel Ward and not to sleep on him at 4.
I still think we'll pick Darnold  
JonC : 4/13/2018 5:28 pm : link
or look to trade down if he's gone. Suspect the problem might be DG thinking Chubb goes to Browns at 4, leaving him not feeling confident about trading down to 5.
RE: RE: Peppers  
shyster : 4/13/2018 6:20 pm : link
In comment 13913438 Peppers said:
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3 QBs - Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield - as the top 3 picks.


Trying to keep my expectations down and you deliver my personal optimal scenario. Thirteen days until I know whether to thank you.

As for Crosby, NFL.com (Zierlein) designates him as a guard for future purposes. Sy'56's profile acknowledges the possibility.

So there might be room for both Crosby and Flowers on NYG's right side for 2018.
he's one of my fav olineman in this draft  
GiantsFan84 : 4/13/2018 8:01 pm : link
nasty punishing player
Peppers  
aimrocky : 4/14/2018 7:14 am : link
Thanks for the insight. Being a Rosen 1, Darnold 1a fan, I'm hoping you're proven correct.
We'll see..  
Peppers : 4/14/2018 10:33 am : link
A little less than two weeks to the draft, that's plenty of time for all that to change 10 times lol.. The hardest part is sorting through whats real and whats opinions/speculation to be honest.
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