he is spot on on the TE from Wisconsin. That guy jumped off the screen
is Frank Ragnow. He's a mid to late first round talent.
He can't know if any of those players are undervalued or speculate on the value vs draft position until they are...you know...actually drafted. He is basing this on pre-draft lists and draftnik analysis, which is historically proven to be simply speculative.
But I digress. I really think he nails it on Armani Watts. One of my favorites at the position. He plays with an aggression that belies his size and NFL speed. I think he is going to be a player, and he reminds me of Tyrann Mathieu. A player to watch for the Giants.
However, I couldn't disagree more on Billy Price. I like Price, but I think if anything he is being overvalued by the draftnik community. I'd rather have Wynn or Hernandez before Price, and possibly Ragnow and Daniels, and it should be noted, Dave Te' loves Austin Corbett as well, and when I asked him to put the center class in order of best to worst, his top four was Ragnow, Corbett, Daniels, and THEN Price.
I trust Dave a lot more than Chris Hummer writing for Badger 247.
He's also wrong on Lamar Jackson. Jackson doesn't have a great arm, neither in arm strength or accuracy outside of the numbers. He can't make all the throws, and he has shown a lot of signs of being...well...not very intelligent. He is a tremendous athlete, but to be a successful QB in the NFL you have to be more.
Vick was the greatest athlete at the QB position in NFL history, I think that's fair to say. He never advanced beyond the divisional round of the playoffs, in just 4 playoff appearances in his career. And one of those years and playoff appearances he was just a backup to McNabb in Philadelphia. He just wasn't a skilled enough passer to balance his run game, a career 56% passer, and I believe him to be a better passer than Jackson. And the defenses are only getting faster since Vick played.
Lamar Jackson is a recipe for disaster, and I would be more surprised if he's even taken in the first round this year, and I expect him to be the 6th QB chosen, and possibly 7th or 8th.
In terms of a position of need.
In spite of being Badger fan, I've never thought Fumagalli's excellent college performance would translate so well to the NFL.
On the other hand, I believe some of their LBs (particularly Cichy and Jacobs) could overachieve based on where they are taken.
Your 'digression', which I enjoyed, belies your original point. ;)
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Jay in Toronto said:
| Your 'digression', which I enjoyed, belies your original point. ;)
It does, but I have no problem discussing the prospects as to where they are generally expected to go in terms of relative value to the rest of the draft...but you can't say, "these guys are going to be draft steals" before the draft...because any of them could actually be overdrafted when the draft actually happens. I'm not really saying the same thing he is, but just where I agree and disagree on the general assessment of the players he discussed in terms of relative value to draft projection