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AdamBrag : 4/14/2018 5:39 pm
If we don't want a QB at 2, but we want a premiere player, what if we take advantage of the premium Buffalo might being willing to pay for a QB and then still get a premiere player?

Trade #1

Trade #2 to Buffalo for #12, #22, #53, #56, #65, #96

Trade #2

Trade #12 and #22 to Denver for #5

Even if the Giants throw in an extra pick to get back to #5, they could still get Saquon Barkley and 3-4 extra Day 2 picks for who they want at #2 anyway.

What do you all think?
Cleveland will take Barkley at 4  
Rjanyg : 4/14/2018 5:42 pm : link
But I like the extra picks
This is why we need  
SHO'NUFF : 4/14/2018 5:48 pm : link
#4, not #5
Gettleman as a GM has never traded down  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 4/14/2018 5:54 pm : link
It will be interesting to see what happens.
RE: Cleveland will take Barkley at 4  
AdamBrag : 4/14/2018 5:57 pm : link
In comment 13914228 Rjanyg said:
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But I like the extra picks


I'm assuming Cleveland is going to look to trade out of 4 to the highest bidder as well and Rosen goes #4.
That kind of thinking is outside the box in my opinion.  
wgenesis123 : 4/14/2018 5:59 pm : link
It might be easier to swing that deal with Cleveland but even if you can't make a trade for 4 or 5 the Colts are hungry for extra picks at 6 and more willing to move down. At 6 one of Barkley, Chubb, and Nelson will likely still be in play when the Colts go on the clock.
Living in Indy  
Larry from WV : 4/14/2018 6:01 pm : link
All the talk is they are done moving down. They want one of the top 3 none QB players.
RE: Gettleman as a GM has never traded down  
GFAN52 : 4/14/2018 6:08 pm : link
In comment 13914241 Bold Ruler said:
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It will be interesting to see what happens.


Agreed, interesting but likely given DG and the Giants history,

Why would Denver trade back  
ZogZerg : 4/14/2018 6:08 pm : link
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Left out the “not” in likely  
GFAN52 : 4/14/2018 6:09 pm : link
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Browns are insane to not pick Barkley with their first pick...  
the mike : 4/14/2018 6:13 pm : link
These quarterbacks are interchangeable and whoever is available at four is fine for them; or they can trade up with the Giants if they are partial to one of them...

If the Browns do go quarterback with their first pick, the pick will likely become an asterisk in posterity as the guy the Browns took in lieu of Barkley... replacing the world renowned DT Gerard Warren (who?) whom they took in 2001 two spots ahead of LaDainian Tomlinson, as one of the dumbest Browns moves ever...
RE: Browns are insane to not pick Barkley with their first pick...  
Jim in Tampa : 4/14/2018 6:40 pm : link
In comment 13914257 the mike said:
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These quarterbacks are interchangeable and whoever is available at four is fine for them; or they can trade up with the Giants if they are partial to one of them...

If the Browns do go quarterback with their first pick, the pick will likely become an asterisk in posterity as the guy the Browns took in lieu of Barkley... replacing the world renowned DT Gerard Warren (who?) whom they took in 2001 two spots ahead of LaDainian Tomlinson, as one of the dumbest Browns moves ever...


Just because YOU think the QBs are interchangeable doesn't mean that the Browns (or any of the top-drafting teams) think that they are.

It's still very likely that the first 3 players selected are QBs. So if the Browns want Barkley (and some publications have stated that they prefer other players) they can still get him at 4.
RE: RE: Browns are insane to not pick Barkley with their first pick...  
the mike : 4/14/2018 6:47 pm : link
In comment 13914284 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 13914257 the mike said:


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These quarterbacks are interchangeable and whoever is available at four is fine for them; or they can trade up with the Giants if they are partial to one of them...

If the Browns do go quarterback with their first pick, the pick will likely become an asterisk in posterity as the guy the Browns took in lieu of Barkley... replacing the world renowned DT Gerard Warren (who?) whom they took in 2001 two spots ahead of LaDainian Tomlinson, as one of the dumbest Browns moves ever...



Just because YOU think the QBs are interchangeable doesn't mean that the Browns (or any of the top-drafting teams) think that they are.

It's still very likely that the first 3 players selected are QBs. So if the Browns want Barkley (and some publications have stated that they prefer other players) they can still get him at 4.


It's not me, its the myriad expert prognosticators... every day the best quarterback is someone different. Yesterday McShay said it was Darnold. Today Tony Pauline said it is Rosen. Tomorrow, someone will say it is Allen. I have no opinion on any of these quarterbacks only that they are all graded significantly below Barkley by everyone...
RE: Why would Denver trade back  
AdamBrag : 4/14/2018 6:56 pm : link
In comment 13914255 ZogZerg said:
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According to the trade chart 12 and 22 (1980 points) is more then #5 (1700 points). If the Giants added in Buffalo's pick at the top of the 3rd, that's 2,265 points for 1,700.

Even in that scenario, the Giants end up with the #5 pick and 3 second round picks and 3 3rd round picks.
The QBs are not interchangeable  
George from PA : 4/14/2018 10:14 pm : link
They might have similar grades but they are very different.

Definitely an eye of the beholder
I don't think the Browns take Barkley  
PatersonPlank : 4/14/2018 10:18 pm : link
they just spent $15M on Hyde, who is young and good. I think they go Nelson, Chubb, or Mincah at #4.
If Barkley is available at 5 I do that deal.  
allstarjim : 4/15/2018 12:51 am : link
And I don't think it's a lock that Cleveland will select Barkley at 4, even if available.
RE: RE: Why would Denver trade back  
eli4life : 4/15/2018 5:31 am : link
In comment 13914298 AdamBrag said:
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According to the trade chart 12 and 22 (1980 points) is more then #5 (1700 points). If the Giants added in Buffalo's pick at the top of the 3rd, that's 2,265 points for 1,700.

Even in that scenario, the Giants end up with the #5 pick and 3 second round picks and 3 3rd round picks.


The chart has no or shouldn’t have anything to do with trades regarding the top of the draft. You hold one of the top picks someone wants it for a qb then they are going to pay through the nose to get there. After that use the chart.
Denver wants a qb. They either stand pat or trade up.  
Ira : 4/15/2018 6:21 am : link
They need a qb too much to trade back, even for extra picks.
Pick 2 is so valuable  
Rjanyg : 4/15/2018 8:58 am : link
NYG goes Darnold if there, Barkley/Chubb/trade back if not there.

Most likely trade partner IMO is Denver. It is clean and safe as one of Chubb/Neslon will be available at pick 5. NYG should also get another 2nd, 4th rounder this year and next years 1st.

All the other trade scenarions are very completed.

RE: Denver wants a qb. They either stand pat or trade up.  
AdamBrag : 4/15/2018 11:33 am : link
In comment 13914557 Ira said:
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They need a qb too much to trade back, even for extra picks.


The rumors out of Denver are they don't want a QB because they want to continue give Paxton Lynch a chance.
That has to be smoke.  
allstarjim : 4/15/2018 8:05 pm : link
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