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Has any first rounder since Eli refused to play ?

Ron from Ninerland : 4/14/2018 10:03 pm
When Eli was drafted by San Diego he refused to play for them for reasons other than money. I know that there have been some hold outs since then, but the issues always involved money. Has any other first rounder flat out refused to play for the team that drafted them ?
Ummm  
figgy2989 : 4/14/2018 10:20 pm : link
John Elway
Oh..since Eli  
figgy2989 : 4/14/2018 10:22 pm : link
Bush wouldnít play for the Texans, but that was money driven.
Ereck Flowers  
Sarcastic Sam : 4/14/2018 10:47 pm : link
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RE: Ereck Flowers  
Dan in the Springs : 4/14/2018 10:59 pm : link
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Okay, that was funny!
No, Eli is the only  
SHO'NUFF : 4/14/2018 11:10 pm : link
asshole.
Eli  
djstat : 4/15/2018 12:23 pm : link
Would have played for San Diego. He didnít want to. So Sandiego drafted him knowing NYG wanted him and got extra picks.
RE: Eli  
Ron from Ninerland : 4/15/2018 1:36 pm : link
In comment 13914771 djstat said:
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Would have played for San Diego. He didnít want to. So Sandiego drafted him knowing NYG wanted him and got extra picks.
San Diego drafted him because they were stupid. Archie and/or Eli let it be known that he would not play for San Diego but they drafted him anyway. The Giants got him cheap. Had San Diego dealt the pick they would have gotten more
RE: Ereck Flowers  
Jimmy Googs : 4/15/2018 2:23 pm : link
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classic...
It's amazing more don't  
Go Terps : 4/15/2018 2:32 pm : link
Andrew Luck is someone who should have.
SS...  
JohnG in Albany : 4/15/2018 2:43 pm : link
with the walk off.
When did..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/15/2018 2:59 pm : link
Eli refuse to play??

History just keeps getting twisted.

Geez, Eli was a Charger for about half an hour. Granted, he threatened to not play for them, but that's different.
Bo Jackson  
SimpleMan : 4/15/2018 3:20 pm : link
was drafted number 1 by Tampa Bay and never played for them. He was pissed off at them for messing up his NCAA eligibility and played baseball instead of playing for them.
RE: When did..  
Ron from Ninerland : 4/15/2018 4:18 pm : link
In comment 13914959 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Eli refuse to play??

History just keeps getting twisted.

Geez, Eli was a Charger for about half an hour. Granted, he threatened to not play for them, but that's different.
How is history being twisted here ? Archie and Eli said prior to the draft that he would not play for San Diego. I distinctly remember seeing Archie on TV. Of course if San Diego called his bluff who knows what would have happened ? However San Diego was in a bad position. They were a few years removed from trading 2 #1's, a #2 and two players for Ryan Leaf. They could ill afford to have nothing to show for the #1 pick in the draft.
RE: When did..  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/15/2018 5:33 pm : link
In comment 13914959 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Eli refuse to play??

History just keeps getting twisted.

Geez, Eli was a Charger for about half an hour. Granted, he threatened to not play for them, but that's different.

FMIC, I respect your takes, but come on - he definitely refused to play for San Diego. He even threatened to go to law school instead of playing football, IIRC.
Dunk..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/15/2018 5:52 pm : link
That's why I said he threatened to not play for them.

Here's what ron said:

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When Eli was drafted by San Diego he refused to play for them for reasons other than money. I know that there have been some hold outs since then, but the issues always involved money


Hold outs? Refused to play for them after being drafted?

The guy was a Charger for less than an hour.
Elway had some interesting leverage...  
bw in dc : 4/15/2018 9:38 pm : link
The Yankees drafted him in the second round, and he was in their farm system playing. So baseball presented a real opportunity for big money, too.

Ron from Ninerland is absolutely correct. The Poor Little Eli Campaign was out in full force prior to the draft - led by Papa Arch and Tom Condon - specifically saying Eli would not play for San Diego, and they named GM AJ Smith as a reason.

Papa Arch didn't want his youngest, spoiled son to possibly have the same career as Papa Arch had in New Orleans. It worked. You have to give Team Eli credit. But it was the height of arrogance...

And frankly, I'm not quite sure this doesn't happen more because the blueprint has been laid out by Elway and Eli.
RE: Dunk..  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/15/2018 9:47 pm : link
In comment 13915106 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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That's why I said he threatened to not play for them.

Here's what ron said:



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When Eli was drafted by San Diego he refused to play for them for reasons other than money. I know that there have been some hold outs since then, but the issues always involved money



Hold outs? Refused to play for them after being drafted?

The guy was a Charger for less than an hour.

Fair enough. And the two of them are worthy of trivia that will win anyone a free drink in a bar debate:

What QB, drafted by the Giants, has the most passing yards? (Rivers).

What QB, drafted by the Chargers, was the first to start and win a Super Bowl? (Eli).
Didn't Drew Brees win a SB...  
bw in dc : 4/15/2018 9:51 pm : link
before Eli? ;)
RE: Didn't Drew Brees win a SB...  
BrianLeonard23 : 4/15/2018 11:38 pm : link
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before Eli? ;)


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RE: Elway had some interesting leverage...  
Ron from Ninerland : 4/16/2018 1:08 am : link
In comment 13915263 bw in dc said:
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The Yankees drafted him in the second round, and he was in their farm system playing. So baseball presented a real opportunity for big money, too.

Ron from Ninerland is absolutely correct. The Poor Little Eli Campaign was out in full force prior to the draft - led by Papa Arch and Tom Condon - specifically saying Eli would not play for San Diego, and they named GM AJ Smith as a reason.

Papa Arch didn't want his youngest, spoiled son to possibly have the same career as Papa Arch had in New Orleans. It worked. You have to give Team Eli credit. But it was the height of arrogance...

And frankly, I'm not quite sure this doesn't happen more because the blueprint has been laid out by Elway and Eli.
Interestingly that may not have been the first time Archie influenced where one of his sons played. There was a lot of speculation that Peyton was going to come out his junior year. Had he done so he probably would have been the top QB in that year's draft. Later on it became apparent that the Aints were going to have the number one pick and that Peyton was going to suffer the same fate as his old man. I would have loved to be the fly on the wall for that Father Son talk. Peyton then announced that he was going back for his senior year.
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