NFT: Brewers and Mets Game 3 Thor Day!

.

And go into the nats with Thor - DeGrom

But it will be cold and windy. Not like yesterday’s nice weather.

Rain is supposed to start around 3:00 PM.

Terrible conditions, but rain won’t be an issue till after 4. Worst case scenario is it’s a rain shortened game, but most likely can play 9

on the bench. This is his what? second start? I don't think he's a bench player. He needs to play regularly.

until 6pm. Definitely windy though.

In comment 13914754 CMicks3110 said:

Quote:

on the bench. This is his what? second start? I don't think he's a bench player. He needs to play regularly.

I think this might be his third start. Guillorme would offer more defensively at SS, but can't hit. Cecchini has defensive issues at SS so really is not ideal if Rosario needs a night off.

Reyes will be fine

Fantastic.

He's a 96-97 pitcher right now rather than 98-99.

Been an uneven start to the season for him and the first was more of the same.

Disconcerting.

I swear people used to complain about Duda. Cespedes is ten times more streaky.

from Frazier!

Thank you Toddfather.

In the cold.

With a 20 mph wind blowing in from right field no reason to worry about LH hitting it out. More high fastballs

.

Yeah... he's clearly injured.

Wow!

He hasn't K'd EVERY batter.
DL him just to be safe.

Also I kind of hope the brewers get a 2 out hit to take what would be noah lifted after 6 with a no-no

Todd?

Balls and strikes

to see if his long speed translates at all to stolen bases:

Have a day, Brandon Nimmo. Current #Statcast status ➡�
Leadoff hit: 103.3 mph exit velo, 29.8 ft/sec sprint speed.
Scoring from 2nd: 28.4 ft/sec SS.
Triple: 103.8 mph, 400-foot #barrel, 28.6 ft/sec SS. #Mets

29.8 FT/S is very very good.

in the 5th inning for those still worried about velocity.

Rosario.

In comment 13914941 CMicks3110 said:

Quote:

to see if his long speed translates at all to stolen bases: Have a day, Brandon Nimmo. Current #Statcast status ➡� Leadoff hit: 103.3 mph exit velo, 29.8 ft/sec sprint speed. Scoring from 2nd: 28.4 ft/sec SS. Triple: 103.8 mph, 400-foot #barrel, 28.6 ft/sec SS. #Mets 29.8 FT/S is very very good.

He should learn to bunt for basehits

in the clutch. Now there's something new. Please get rid of this guy.

But only 6.1 innings. Shame that Noah has to leave the game.
He has to be more economical.

Maybe they shouldve pinched hit for him last inning.

In comment 13914961 Chris L. said:

Quote:

in the clutch. Now there's something new. Please get rid of this guy.

Reyes is the 25th man and tutor for Rosario and friend for Cespedes.
Now he can sit back down for a week

Is 1-0 if he played today over flores

Gonzalez for defense on a 1-0 game!

I have no idea. Just sloppy play all inning letting gsellman down

The Mets defense

he is sooo done. Also, can't play him on a day when you have all the other bench guys in the line up. Bad lineup constructed by Calloway today. This is a rubber game and you have to give Thor some help.

probably my first favorite baseball player.

Mookie inspired HR.

nice ft/sec sprint speed on that.

Impressive

With his size, he should be able to hit for more power than he was shown so far

In comment 13914985 Vanzetti said:

Quote:

Impressive With his size, he should be able to hit for more power than he was shown so far

I assumed he was a smaller guy, guess not:

Brandon Nimmo

Positions: Outfielder and Pinch Hitter

Bats: Left • Throws: Right

6-3, 207lb

For the next 7 years

favorite Met at the moment.

In comment 13914990 spike said:

Quote:

For the next 7 years

Where do Bruce, Cespedes, Conforto , and Smith/Alonso play?

Nimmo
Conforto
Cespedes
Machado
Flores
Smith/Alonzo
Rosario
Plawecki/Nido

to acquire a catcher and free up playing time for Nimmo.

Lagares? Not sure he's enough to get a catcher.

and they're not going to deal Bruce IMO.

Not sure who else, but Lagares seems the ideal candidate, but technically that just makes Nimmo the 4th OFer, need to get him in the every day lineup. and not just saying this off today's performance, many people felt this way.

In comment 13914993 Mike in NY said:

Quote:

In comment 13914990 spike said: Quote: For the next 7 years Where do Bruce, Cespedes, Conforto , and Smith/Alonso play?

Bruce and Cespedes only have 2 more years left. Maybe you go with a 4 man OF rotation for one more year than trade Bruce or Cespedes. Nimmo isnt doomed to ride the bench forever and Im going to go out on a limb and say everyone wont stay healthy forever making it moot anyway.

In comment 13914995 pjcas18 said:

Quote:

to acquire a catcher and free up playing time for Nimmo. Lagares? Not sure he's enough to get a catcher. and they're not going to deal Bruce IMO. Not sure who else, but Lagares seems the ideal candidate, but technically that just makes Nimmo the 4th OFer, need to get him in the every day lineup. and not just saying this off today's performance, many people felt this way.

Nimmo is already the 4th OF. Lagares only plays against lefties or comes in late for defense.

In comment 13915003 ZGiants98 said:

Quote:

In comment 13914995 pjcas18 said: Quote: to acquire a catcher and free up playing time for Nimmo. Lagares? Not sure he's enough to get a catcher. and they're not going to deal Bruce IMO. Not sure who else, but Lagares seems the ideal candidate, but technically that just makes Nimmo the 4th OFer, need to get him in the every day lineup. and not just saying this off today's performance, many people felt this way. Nimmo is already the 4th OF. Lagares only plays against lefties or comes in late for defense.

Either way, my point is dealing Lagares doesn't necessarily free up playing time for Nimmo.

Bruce might be the only one they move that can do that and it's more natural I think having Nimmo in CF and Conforto in RF.

but I doubt they trade Bruce.

not sure what they can do

not have been sent down....this is why. He is so much better than no hit Juan. Late game defense only buys you so much. Nimmo is a big difference maker in the line up.

In comment 13915008 pjcas18 said:

Quote:

In comment 13915003 ZGiants98 said: Quote: In comment 13914995 pjcas18 said: Quote: to acquire a catcher and free up playing time for Nimmo. Lagares? Not sure he's enough to get a catcher. and they're not going to deal Bruce IMO. Not sure who else, but Lagares seems the ideal candidate, but technically that just makes Nimmo the 4th OFer, need to get him in the every day lineup. and not just saying this off today's performance, many people felt this way. Nimmo is already the 4th OF. Lagares only plays against lefties or comes in late for defense. Either way, my point is dealing Lagares doesn't necessarily free up playing time for Nimmo. Bruce might be the only one they move that can do that and it's more natural I think having Nimmo in CF and Conforto in RF. but I doubt they trade Bruce. not sure what they can do

I dont think it's the end of the world to have a real rotation. Give Bruce, Cespedes, Conforto, and AGone each one day off a week. If Nimmo is getting 4 starts plus is the first guy off the bench as a pinch hitter I think he will be fine. For some reason we arent doing that with him yet though.

needs a double for a cycle.

and sit players that are underperforming. This is ridiculous. Reyes shouldn’t start ever.

outs. You can't have the two of them and the pitchers spot. Too easy to shut that lineup down. Gavin C. has to be better than Reyes...no?

for Derek Dietrich. Reyes is not a bench player. He needs to play everyday or not at all. He is an awful pinch hitter.

for anyone who has twitter (there are more of these showing Thor's movement). I assume its not edited at all
Link - ( New Window )

For the win!

with the walkoff

..

Haha.

playoff contenders.

sits. Wouldn’t mind if Cespedes sits for a couple of games but I know that won’t happen. Hell, he’ll probably be in the lineup tomorrow. But Nimmo earned another start and this team desperately needs a player that can actually hit.

Just as big it saves the bullpen from further use.

—

Nats 3-7 home stand.

That was a shot by Flores.

Made up for his miscatch with a walkoff!

Their offense is locked in right now.

They are already 5.5 games out.

The Mets can do a lot of damage this week

Most walk off hits since 2015:
Wilmer Flores: 5
Bryce Harper: 5
Carlos Correa: 5
Nelson Cruz: 5
Ian Kinsler: 5
Josh Harrison: 5
Mark Trumbo: 5

That was great!

always seems happy, he seems like he's smiling all the time.

Great quote from him here per Gelbs twitter:

Quote:

Want to love Brandon Nimmo more? Read this quote: "If you talk to a lot of the guys around here, it’s the most talented team they’ve played on. So yeah, that makes at-bats hard to come by but that also makes a World Series a very plausible thing..." And thats what we all want to do. I mean how many opportunities do you get to do that? So I want to be a part of a World Series team and if that means that I have to come off the bench and put up a good at bat for a pinch hit or whatever it may be, that’s what I’m gonna do..." "Because I want to see this team winning a World series at the end of the year."

@Todd_Rosiak

I asked Travis Shaw what it was like facing Noah Syndergaard today in those conditions. "Good luck," he said. "Freakin' wiffle balls at 98 miles an hour. His changeup's disgusting. It's what he's known for."

In comment 13915073 spike said:

Quote:

They are already 5.5 games out. The Mets can do a lot of damage this week

Just take 2 of 3 and we are so in the drivers seat for a while.

Does a package of Dom Smith, Cecchini and Bautista get him?

Are going to try to get a bidding war and they already have bour

In comment 13915097 Vanzetti said:

Quote:

Does a package of Dom Smith, Cecchini and Bautista get him?

Who knows. You have people on one extreme side that are usually always wrong that will say no package on earth will get him and there are others that will suggest too little. Sandy isnt giving up our farm or giving away guys like Rosario so if there have been any discussions Im betting they have been modest.

and they didnt exactly go for a kings ransom. I do think Realmuto's pricetag will be large but you just dont know how these things will go down. Im on record saying I would give up Gimenez.

In comment 13915103 ZGiants98 said:

Quote:

In comment 13915097 Vanzetti said: Quote: Does a package of Dom Smith, Cecchini and Bautista get him? Who knows. You have people on one extreme side that are usually always wrong that will say no package on earth will get him and there are others that will suggest too little. Sandy isnt giving up our farm or giving away guys like Rosario so if there have been any discussions Im betting they have been modest.

To me, Alonso makes Dom expendable so
Mets would be trading from strength

I have seen Cole, hellickson, and gio on different websites

:)

In comment 13915079 pjcas18 said:

Quote:

always seems happy, he seems like he's smiling all the time. Great quote from him here per Gelbs twitter: Quote: Want to love Brandon Nimmo more? Read this quote: "If you talk to a lot of the guys around here, it’s the most talented team they’ve played on. So yeah, that makes at-bats hard to come by but that also makes a World Series a very plausible thing..." And thats what we all want to do. I mean how many opportunities do you get to do that? So I want to be a part of a World Series team and if that means that I have to come off the bench and put up a good at bat for a pinch hit or whatever it may be, that’s what I’m gonna do..." "Because I want to see this team winning a World series at the end of the year."

Gotta love theses glue guys like Nimmo and Flores

In comment 13915139 bhill410 said:

Quote:

I have seen Cole, hellickson, and gio on different websites

Hellickson

their most obvious trade bait. It wouldn't shock me if he could headline a trade for a Realmuto or someone like that, but honestly I think he's a gamer and a winning player so I really don't want to deal him. He's part Eckstein, part Brett Gardner.

Bruce is a solid hitter and an underrated player (based on no other team in baseball wanting him for 2+ years) in general, but resigning him locked them into a difficult playing time situation - unless he moves to 1b. Which isn't impossible, but also didn't seem like something they were considering in ST when Dom Smith was hurt and AGon wasn't looking good. I guess this is 1 of those good problems to have though.

Based on nobody wanting him? He actually went farily early in this offseason as far as free agency went in a very depressed market for power hitting players this year. Did nobody want Moustakas, Frazier, or Hosmer either? He also was traded for a player at the deadline last year and that prospect is currently impressing.

Bruce is what a three time all star coming off one of his best seasons? Plenty of teams would like to have Bruce.

much interest in him then.

In comment 13915215 Eric on Li said:

Quote:

Bruce is a solid hitter and an underrated player (based on no other team in baseball wanting him for 2+ years) in general, but resigning him locked them into a difficult playing time situation - unless he moves to 1b. Which isn't impossible, but also didn't seem like something they were considering in ST when Dom Smith was hurt and AGon wasn't looking good. I guess this is 1 of those good problems to have though.

Have they said they don't want to see Bruce at 1st? They've mentioned on the broadcast that he didn't get reps at 1st in spring training was because of a foot injury

In comment 13915318 JayBinQueens said:

Quote:

Have they said they don't want to see Bruce at 1st? They've mentioned on the broadcast that he didn't get reps at 1st in spring training was because of a foot injury

In ST they seemed to not want to move him there. I'd guess that will remain the case while they remain hopeful in Smith and Gonzalez is playing well.

In comment 13915299 ZGiants98 said:

Quote:

Based on nobody wanting him? He actually went farily early in this offseason as far as free agency went in a very depressed market for power hitting players this year. Did nobody want Moustakas, Frazier, or Hosmer either? He also was traded for a player at the deadline last year and that prospect is currently impressing. Bruce is what a three time all star coming off one of his best seasons? Plenty of teams would like to have Bruce.

He was on pace for a career year last year and he didn't even bring back a top 30 prospect in the Cleveland org. That's underrated. Not sure how you figure nobody wanted Hosmer when he got $100m more than Bruce.

In comment 13915334 Eric on Li said:

Quote:

In comment 13915299 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Based on nobody wanting him? He actually went farily early in this offseason as far as free agency went in a very depressed market for power hitting players this year. Did nobody want Moustakas, Frazier, or Hosmer either? He also was traded for a player at the deadline last year and that prospect is currently impressing. Bruce is what a three time all star coming off one of his best seasons? Plenty of teams would like to have Bruce. He was on pace for a career year last year and he didn't even bring back a top 30 prospect in the Cleveland org. That's underrated. Not sure how you figure nobody wanted Hosmer when he got $100m more than Bruce.

That was the same thing for every free agent at the deadline last year. Because of the juiced ball there just wasnt a huge demand for power hitters. JD Martinez might be the best hitter in baseball and he got traded to the Diamondbacks for a crappy return. It was a product of the season. Doesnt mean these are players nobody wants.

Jeremy Hellickson-Degrom

Gio Gonzalez - Wheeler

Roark - Matz

In comment 13915352 spike said:

Quote:

Jeremy Hellickson-Degrom Gio Gonzalez - Wheeler Roark - Matz

Love it. We miss Sherzer and Stras and they miss Harvey. Sweet. Lets bury them.

Citi has some good draining. I dont want to PPD ANY of these games. Mets need to kick the Nats while they are down, and take advantage of these pitching matchups this series. We could see a 7+ game lead by the time the Mets are done in Washington.

In comment 13915376 ZGiants98 said:

Quote:

In comment 13915352 spike said: Quote: Jeremy Hellickson-Degrom Gio Gonzalez - Wheeler Roark - Matz Love it. We miss Sherzer and Stras and they miss Harvey. Sweet. Lets bury them.

From your mouth to god's ears! Let's take it to these bastards and dig their hole even deeper.

In comment 13915615 gmen9892 said:

Quote:

Citi has some good draining. I dont want to PPD ANY of these games. Mets need to kick the Nats while they are down, and take advantage of these pitching matchups this series. We could see a 7+ game lead by the time the Mets are done in Washington.

*With Washington.

But they aren’t going to keep getting away with these five inning starts and being this bad with RISP. Bullpen has been unbelievable

by our bullpen isn't really anything unusual. The issue is that the Mets best guys are shouldering most of the load because the team is winning so many games. Most teams will have more games like Sat night where you can just let your last guys on the roster eat up those innings.

It's a good problem to have, but it presents a challenge to the coaching staff to keep these guys fresh realizing that a baseball season is a marathon.

There is one team in all of MLB, and only one. That is built to avoid a burnt out BP. Good or bad, that is the one area, depth of BP, that shouldn’t be a concern.

In comment 13915706 Metnut said:

Quote:

by our bullpen isn't really anything unusual. The issue is that the Mets best guys are shouldering most of the load because the team is winning so many games. Most teams will have more games like Sat night where you can just let your last guys on the roster eat up those innings. It's a good problem to have, but it presents a challenge to the coaching staff to keep these guys fresh realizing that a baseball season is a marathon.

The offense as a whole really needs to start picking it up. The team has played in a LOT of close games, which is causing their best guys to get overworked.

Would also help to get some legit length out of the Starters for a week straight.

Not exactly anemic
Especially for a team built on pitching
But us Mets fans always have to find something

In comment 13915752 gmen9892 said:

Quote:

The offense as a whole really needs to start picking it up. The team has played in a LOT of close games, which is causing their best guys to get overworked. Would also help to get some legit length out of the Starters for a week straight.

It's not unusual for offenses to struggle in cold weather. I'm not too worried about the O, wait until it starts to get warm, and Ces takes off.

But we are still scoring enough in spite of him. He’s a streaky guy, as are most power hitters. He’s the straw that stirs the drink though... when he takes off so will the offense. It’s already pretty decent even without him.

Cespedes' passion but he needs a day off or two. Even if he's playing well, he should be sat at least once a week IMO. Look at the guy's injury history. Also, we might have the best 4th OF in MLB.

In comment 13915835 Metnut said:

Quote:

Cespedes' passion but he needs a day off or two. Even if he's playing well, he should be sat at least once a week IMO. Look at the guy's injury history. Also, we might have the best 4th OF in MLB.

Agrred. Not a youngster anymore. Same for Bruce.

In comment 13915835 Metnut said:

Quote:

Cespedes' passion but he needs a day off or two. Even if he's playing well, he should be sat at least once a week IMO. Look at the guy's injury history. Also, we might have the best 4th OF in MLB.

Agree. I rest everyone one day a week. Everyone thinks they are playing the “Show” and wants to see the A+ lineup every day but it’s a long season. Keep the bench involved and keep the regulars rested and fresh.

In comment 13915767 Shecky said:

Quote:

Not exactly anemic Especially for a team built on pitching But us Mets fans always have to find something

Come on, man. You really think all is fine on the offensive side of the ball? Teams can't live an entire season on these types of wins. I love what we've been able to do but the worm is going to turn at some point if the offense can't get it going. And I'm sure they will. But it's not just something to bitch at.

but he doesn't need a day off every week. He's 30 an dplays LF, not a lot of stress there. Every other week is plenty of rest, IMO.

I'm not worried about Ces at all. He'll break out soon.

But he has hit Hellickson well in the past and has not hit well against Roark while Nimmo I think is 2 for 3 with a HR in his career against Roark. Ideally they go with regular line-up today, replace Conforto with Lagares and Gonzalez with Flores against Gio, and give Cespedes off against with Roark and have Nimmo in his place. Thursday or Friday against Atlanta you have Nimmo spell Bruce unless he has a hot series against Washington.

regularly, but less to keep them fresh and more to get the bench guys involved.

Yesterday it was clear that offensively Nimmo (bench) and Flores (bench) won the game.

May not happen that way every day that they get bench contributions, but I can't remember a deeper bench on a Mets team. '86?

Anthony DiComo
✔
@AnthonyDiComo
Brandon Nimmo showed off his wheels on the basepaths yesterday, reaching a season-high 29.8 ft/sec, per Statcast. That's elite speed. To give you some perspective, Amed Rosario ranked fifth in baseball last year with an average max-effort sprint speed of 29.5 ft/sec.

Pretty fucking cool.

Eventually when the weather warms up we are going to have weeks where we put up 10+ runs in games. Bruce, Frazier, Conforto, Cespedes... none are really hitting bombs yet. They will.

Strikeouts. Yikes.

In comment 13915904 ZGiants98 said:

Quote:

Pretty fucking cool.

He actually has good sense/speed when underway, but he really does not have that good first few steps that base stealers have

I have no concerns about Cespedes right now - the weather has really been terrible. So many of these games have been played in very cold/windy conditions.

If Ces is still striking out more than anyone else in baseball when the temps get into the 70's, I'll be concerned.

it's important to note that even with the high number of K's there have been a couple of game winners, some power, and some impactful plays in LF.

Knock on wood, but he's in a good place both physically and mentally. If this team is to be playing in October, he will have to be a big part of it.

So far so good.

just wanted to join in on conversation on teams playign good ball!

In comment 13915998 dep026 said:

Quote:

just wanted to join in on conversation on teams playign good ball!

Both Phi and Atl have arrived earlier than expected.
Kapler has done a fine job after looking terrible the first couple pf days

In comment 13915911 ZGiants98 said:

Quote:

Strikeouts. Yikes.

Z lets also give credit where credit is due

Ces is also been showing that 5th skillset he has gunning down runners from the outfield to the basepaths.

The power will come soon, it always does. Just keep the guys hammys fresh.