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Landon Collins & Brandon Jacobs on WFAN

blueberry : 5/4/2018 10:23 am
Earlier with Boomer & Gio -did anyone listen? I caught just some of it-
Collins says arm is coming along - they had to add another screw - hopes to be ready in 4-6 weeks -also gave a glowing opinion of D Webb - said going against him in practice the kid put the ball where he, Jackrabbit, and DRC couldn't touch it - said no reason why the kid can't be the future

There was a lot of info - BJ spoke of Coughlin - also of the past fired coach -hopefully someone can fill in more
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Did Coollins say this?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/4/2018 10:24 am : link

Giants Daily
‏ @NYGDaily

In an interview with WFAN, Landon Collins says Ereck Flowers is upset with the Giants for signing Nate Solder. Collins found this out through his cousin, who knows Flowers.

Collins reached out to Flowers but was unable to reach him.
this might have it  
blueberry : 5/4/2018 10:26 am : link

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Boomer & Gio welcomed Giants safety, Landon Collins and former Giants running back, Brandon Phillips, into the Investors Bank Studio Friday morning for some fun. Collins and Phillips stopped by to promote their celebrity softball game (info @ LandonCollinsGame.com), which pits current Giants against former members of Big Blue, and talk some New York Giants Football. We heard the guys thoughts on new head coach Pat Shurmur, drafting Saquon Barkley, the human being that is Tom Coughlin, what went wrong in the locker room last year, Collins believes Davis Webb is the future, Jacobs doesnt think much of Ben McAdoo, OBJs situation (getting those cheeks) and much more.
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It was an interesting interview  
steve in ky : 5/4/2018 10:28 am : link
here is a link
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"Brandon Phillips"  
blueberry : 5/4/2018 10:28 am : link
LOL
Flowers  
DanMetroMan : 5/4/2018 10:28 am : link
really seems like a big time loser if this is accurate.
RE: Did Coollins say this?  
montanagiant : 5/4/2018 10:30 am : link
In comment 13954163 Eric from BBI said:
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Giants Daily
‏ @NYGDaily

In an interview with WFAN, Landon Collins says Ereck Flowers is upset with the Giants for signing Nate Solder. Collins found this out through his cousin, who knows Flowers.

Collins reached out to Flowers but was unable to reach him.

Is he delusional or just a big baby? WTF gives him the idea that he's done such a good job at LT the last 3 years that he's a lock for that position? He would be lucky to get a participation trophy let alone not outright cut. Seriously, this guy has the attitude of someone who's been killing it at LT. He's sucked and he should come in here willing to do anything to prove he belongs. Honestly, this might be why he's soo bad because he does not live in any kind of reality regarding his situation as an NFL player
RE: Did Coollins say this?  
Klaatu : 5/4/2018 10:31 am : link
In comment 13954163 Eric from BBI said:
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Giants Daily
‏ @NYGDaily

In an interview with WFAN, Landon Collins says Ereck Flowers is upset with the Giants for signing Nate Solder. Collins found this out through his cousin, who knows Flowers.

Collins reached out to Flowers but was unable to reach him.


Awww...

Has Collins looked in here?

Yeah Flowers is pretty lame and all  
madeinstars : 5/4/2018 10:32 am : link
But what is LC doing airing that dirty laundry on air? Especially form a second hand source without speaking to Flowers about it first? Totally unnecessary.
Flowers is probably mad  
Matt in SGS : 5/4/2018 10:35 am : link
because by signing Solder, it hurts Flowers place in the free agent market next year since left tackles get paid more than right tackles. Unfortunately for Flowers, it doesn't matter what Rosenhaus will try to do for him, the tape doesn't lie. That video of him whiffing on 3 Chiefs on one play speaks volumes. His best bet is to work on his technique, learn to play right tackle, help his value and enjoy going somewhere else in 2019.
getting those cheeks  
Rocky369 : 5/4/2018 10:37 am : link
please clarify WTF this means and what the odell situation is
RE: Yeah Flowers is pretty lame and all  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/4/2018 10:42 am : link
In comment 13954182 madeinstars said:
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But what is LC doing airing that dirty laundry on air? Especially form a second hand source without speaking to Flowers about it first? Totally unnecessary.


Is it really "airing dirty laundry" to state the obvious? Him not showing up to voluntaries after being replaced and essentially demoted has a clear meaning.
RE: RE: Did Coollins say this?  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/4/2018 10:43 am : link
In comment 13954177 montanagiant said:
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In comment 13954163 Eric from BBI said:


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Giants Daily
‏ @NYGDaily

In an interview with WFAN, Landon Collins says Ereck Flowers is upset with the Giants for signing Nate Solder. Collins found this out through his cousin, who knows Flowers.

Collins reached out to Flowers but was unable to reach him.


Is he delusional or just a big baby? WTF gives him the idea that he's done such a good job at LT the last 3 years that he's a lock for that position? He would be lucky to get a participation trophy let alone not outright cut. Seriously, this guy has the attitude of someone who's been killing it at LT. He's sucked and he should come in here willing to do anything to prove he belongs. Honestly, this might be why he's soo bad because he does not live in any kind of reality regarding his situation as an NFL player


Our previous regime left us a lusional basket case, living in a fantasy world trying to force him to be a LT because he was the 9th pick overall.

It was an obvious consensus to even us low brain wattage thinkers on BBI that Flowers screams RT.
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arcarsenal : 5/4/2018 10:43 am : link
Lanton Collins should probably just fall in line here and STFU if we're being honest.
More importantly.....  
Massgman : 5/4/2018 10:43 am : link
He talked very highly of Webb.
I mentioned this the other day  
Shecky : 5/4/2018 10:45 am : link
And someone needs to get this through to Flowers. "Left tackles get paid more than right tackles" is a fallacy. ELITE Left tackles get paid more, something Flowers is not. Never was, never will be. Coming out of college it was universally thought he would make a good RT, Reese was the only one apparently that felt he could play LT.

So kid, you can play the same as you always have, and get paid $3-4mm as a FA LT next year. If he happens to shock everyone and play at a Pro Bowl Level, he will sign for low guaranteed high AA to a team that is hopeful he figured it out but unsure. $10-$12mm? max?

That's top RT money. Something that if he moved to RT and dominated I can see a few teams saying "ahhhh, he played where he should have all along" and believe it a bit more.

A low level LT and RT are going to both earn the same. As will backup RT and LT. Bottom line for Flowers, he has the best opportunity to excel at RT, not LT. He also has the best opportunity as FA for a team to believe it's real and pay him appropriately...
I kind of agree that Landon Collins needs to know when to  
Jimmy Googs : 5/4/2018 10:45 am : link
shut hell up. A leader doesn't always need to be talking...
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Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/4/2018 10:46 am : link
In comment 13954172 blueberry said:
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LOL


London Jakobs
RE: Did Coollins say this?  
GiantsRage2007 : 5/4/2018 10:46 am : link
In comment 13954163 Eric from BBI said:
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Giants Daily
‏ @NYGDaily

In an interview with WFAN, Landon Collins says Ereck Flowers is upset with the Giants for signing Nate Solder. Collins found this out through his cousin, who knows Flowers.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This can't be true can it?

Collins reached out to Flowers but was unable to reach him.
I believe he's well intentioned, and mostly naieve,  
wigs in nyc : 5/4/2018 10:51 am : link
but I don't think Landon knows the media isn't his friend.
That is quite an interview  
Jay in Toronto : 5/4/2018 11:02 am : link
I thought I heard, in the response to what went wrong hesaid something about 'Eli having problems at home.'
This guy Flowers is solid proof the draft dartboard was in use  
ghost718 : 5/4/2018 11:08 am : link
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The less Landon talks the better it is for everyone  
est1986 : 5/4/2018 11:12 am : link
I mean honestly, he doesnt always sound very literate and he does comment on everything unnecessarily. He needs media training big time.
RE: That is quite an interview  
baadbill : 5/4/2018 11:17 am : link
In comment 13954240 Jay in Toronto said:
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I thought I heard, in the response to what went wrong hesaid something about 'Eli having problems at home.'


Eli Apple
RE: That is quite an interview  
baadbill : 5/4/2018 11:19 am : link
In comment 13954240 Jay in Toronto said:
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I thought I heard, in the response to what went wrong hesaid something about 'Eli having problems at home.'


And was in response to "What went wrong with the DBs" ... all the turmoil with the DBs last year...

And in his response he mentioned Eli having some issues at home (i.e. Eli Apple and his mom)
no I missed because when I turned on the car radio, Norman "Mr. Class"  
Victor in CT : 5/4/2018 11:26 am : link
Esiasion and the other assholes were yucking it up over some Francesa clip.

I'll repeat, whatever faults Mike has, he NEVER disparages other hosts on the station on his show, and won't allow callers to do it either.
Collins is a bit too chatty with the media  
JonC : 5/4/2018 11:27 am : link
I know fans want to know what is going on in-house, but agree he's got to learn when to zip it, especially when the media is hunting for a soundbyte to reel in the clicks/listeners.
Bwahhhaaahhhaaa Jacobs on Gettleman...  
FranknWeezer : 5/4/2018 11:30 am : link
"I always thought the guy who wore his pants up on his stomach was an interesting guy."
RE: RE: That is quite an interview  
FranknWeezer : 5/4/2018 11:32 am : link
In comment 13954260 baadbill said:
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In comment 13954240 Jay in Toronto said:


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I thought I heard, in the response to what went wrong hesaid something about 'Eli having problems at home.'



Eli Apple


Listened again. "Eli just had...at-home problems."

Yep, Apple.
RE: RE: That is quite an interview  
jestersdead : 5/4/2018 11:43 am : link
In comment 13954262 baadbill said:
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In comment 13954240 Jay in Toronto said:


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I thought I heard, in the response to what went wrong hesaid something about 'Eli having problems at home.'




And was in response to "What went wrong with the DBs" ... all the turmoil with the DBs last year...

And in his response he mentioned Eli having some issues at home (i.e. Eli Apple and his mom)


There was an article written during the season about the personal problems in the Apple family. I believe a step brother or close cousin gave the star ledger quotes. Apple's mom broke up with her 2nd husband, who was very close to Eli and it really hurt the family relationship
Flowers  
Thegratefulhead : 5/4/2018 11:44 am : link
Of course he his mad...duh. Do you know one single human being that would not be mad if their employer publicly hired someone else for their position, gave them the raise they were dreaming of, demoted them and told them they had to compete for their new position. I am not defending Flowers, but for FFS let him be mad. Give him some time to come grips with it, and see what he does in camp. Still relatively young.
Here's a different prespective on the Flowers  
Rory : 5/4/2018 11:48 am : link
holdout. An I'm not trying to say he's the future LT of the team but

Apply the same scenario to yourself...

I'm sure anyone and everyone on this board would be pissed and feel cheated if the company you worked for replaced you with someone new and you had to find out from that person.

NO you wouldn't stop going to work, but you would prob not attend any of the "VOLUNTARY" work events such as team builders and fundraisers. I know I wouldn't, and I def would start speaking to other companies or get council

This is similar to what is happening with Flowers.

So If this is true, it makes sense for Flowers to make a business decision.

as soon as I post....gratefull dead  
Rory : 5/4/2018 11:49 am : link
gets it
Maybe Collins is trying to force  
bradshaw44 : 5/4/2018 11:50 am : link
What he views as a weak link off the team and out of the locker room. He may have resentment towards him for corrupting the culture of the team last year. If thats the case then I get why he isnt backing off.
I would argue that Flowers' profession is not the same as mine  
Bill L : 5/4/2018 12:01 pm : link
In his profession, competition is inherent in the job and the employer is constantly bringing in someone to improve the spot. Free agents, the draft, currently players on the roster move up and down or out on a continual basis and the employee should be full aware of that and realize what being a professional entails.

Flowers didn't have that opportunity because Beatty got hurt, but what we he expect if he had actually beaten Beatty out on the field? That Beatty would have an understandable temper tantrum? No. He would have said that it's part of the business. What would have happened if, instead of signing Solder, they had drafted a top LT with the idea of that person starting? Should Flowers have also been expected to pout?

Should we be understanding if Gallman ran away from home? Or if Kerry Wynn or Davis Webb had the sniffles?
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trueblueinpw : 5/4/2018 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13954202 arcarsenal said:
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Lanton Collins should probably just fall in line here and STFU if we're being honest.


Agree. Wtf is wrong with Collins that he keeps running his pie hole?
RE: no I missed because when I turned on the car radio, Norman  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/4/2018 12:06 pm : link
In comment 13954267 Victor in CT said:
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Esiasion and the other assholes were yucking it up over some Francesa clip.

I'll repeat, whatever faults Mike has, he NEVER disparages other hosts on the station on his show, and won't allow callers to do it either.


They made me miss Fat Mike. At least he sticks to sports, given his superficial football analysis, now too hot stove Yankee trade rumors.

These idiots on WFAN and ESPN try to be up yuck it up personalities, unbearable. News flash, you should have an actual personality.
RE: I would argue that Flowers' profession is not the same as mine  
Rory : 5/4/2018 12:06 pm : link
In comment 13954307 Bill L said:
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In his profession, competition is inherent in the job and the employer is constantly bringing in someone to improve the spot. Free agents, the draft, currently players on the roster move up and down or out on a continual basis and the employee should be full aware of that and realize what being a professional entails.

Flowers didn't have that opportunity because Beatty got hurt, but what we he expect if he had actually beaten Beatty out on the field? That Beatty would have an understandable temper tantrum? No. He would have said that it's part of the business. What would have happened if, instead of signing Solder, they had drafted a top LT with the idea of that person starting? Should Flowers have also been expected to pout?

Should we be understanding if Gallman ran away from home? Or if Kerry Wynn or Davis Webb had the sniffles?


profession same or different, you're gonna be fucking pissed regardless. He's not pouting, fans are saying stupid shit to validate their claim.

He's looking out for his best interest. Which anyone would do yet he gets chastised for it.

I really question some of the people on this board sometimes...
Flowers has every right to be pissed over the signing.  
Big Blue '56 : 5/4/2018 12:08 pm : link
Wont matter amd hell be gone after this season (if not sooner), but Id be pissed as well..
Sitting at home when literally every single other person is together  
Bill L : 5/4/2018 12:10 pm : link
working out, getting better, becoming part of the team, helping the team to become a winning franchises,

is not pouting?

Tell me how that helps him and how that is looking out for his best interest.
Quasi transcript & highlights  
Pascal4554 : 5/4/2018 12:15 pm : link
For those who don't have time to listen. Agree Collins is a bit too chatty. Jacobs is hilarious.

Collins - Shurmur a players coach, and first coach to eatlunch with him and the players, but also said he could be stern.
Collins - Giants culture is heading in the right direction, but too early to tell.
Jacobs- loves Coughlin. Said Coughlin didnt have any favorites except for possibly Bradshaw. Jacobs said Coughlin would be really hard on critiquing Snee, but otherwise they didnt communicate much.
Collins- likes Saquons attitude seems very humble, down to earth, and ready to work.
Jacobs - loves Gettleman. He is glad the Carolina players criticized Gettleman publicly to get him out of Carolina and back with the Giants where he belongs. Says Gettleman is down to earth.
Collins- says a lot of miscommunication between upstairs (assume he means the coaches) and the secondary last year. Lots of injuries to the secondary. DRC was playing through a back injury and a knee injury. Eli Apple stuff is behind them.
Jacobs- give Webb a shot, didnt need a take a quarterback high in the draft.
Collins - Webb is the future. Very complimentary. Webb deserves the chance.
Collins Eli is our guy.
Jacobs- I knew McAdoo had no clue what was going on in reference to last year. Says McAdoo asked Jacobs if he had any advice during last season- Jacobs replied I dont know, I coach kids (children)...
Jacobs- We kind of always stuck together and our coach never threw us under the bus.
Jacobs- Coughlin was totally in control.
Collins- McAdoo didnt loose control of the locker room, but lost the respect from the players. (trying not to throw McAdoo under the bus)
Jacobs Doesnt think Giants give Beckham contract before the season starts. Doesnt work that way, but will have to give him a contract after the season. Understands why Beckham wants a new contract.
Jacobs- Predicts Giants go 12 and 4. Beckham has a big year.
Collins- Supportive of Odell. Says he deserves new contract. Guys who criticism him dont really know him.
Collins- Betcher is awesome. Plenty of guys about to be making plays. Not a lot of gray areas in the defense.
Jacobs Gives a positive spin on Flowers not being at OTAs. Says a lot of guys who stay away from OTA feel like they are working with their own trainers focused on just them. Flower should be there though to learn the new scheme.
Jacobs- in reference to Flowers and criticism you dont want criticism go to Cleveland- this is New York, that you will get (criticism)
Collins- Texted Flowers to come to OTAs when he didnt show up. Flowers did not respond back. He is unhappy (heard from his cousin) that they picked up Nate Solider.
Jacobs in reference to Flowers Every year they are going to try to find someone to replace you. When Tiki left they brought in a lot of guys (to compete with him) only one that worked was Ahmad. You have to up your game. Older you get, you have to keep working.
Jacobs- not a huge fan of Matt Ryans new contract. Its a lot of money (need money to spend on other positions). A lot of Atlanta fans not happy about it.
Jacobs- Passionate about coaching little kids to play football. Most important is to teach safety.
Collins doesnt understand new rules on tackling. Doesnt want to go low on receivers and risk injuring their knees or ankles.
Jacobs NFL doesnt protect running backs. Only guy not being protected.
RE: Flowers has every right to be pissed over the signing.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/4/2018 12:24 pm : link
In comment 13954321 Big Blue '56 said:
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Wont matter amd hell be gone after this season (if not sooner), but Id be pissed as well..


There's no law against having your feelings hurt, but why would he have a right to? He wasn't performing at a level where he could say with a straight face that he deserved to hold his job.
Also disagree with Jacobs  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/4/2018 12:27 pm : link
Runningbacks aren't the only unprotected class. Linemen have had a legitimate gripe for years about low blocks still being legal and the league doesn't do anything about it.
RE: RE: Flowers has every right to be pissed over the signing.  
Big Blue '56 : 5/4/2018 12:32 pm : link
In comment 13954337 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13954321 Big Blue '56 said:


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Wont matter amd hell be gone after this season (if not sooner), but Id be pissed as well..



There's no law against having your feelings hurt, but why would he have a right to? He wasn't performing at a level where he could say with a straight face that he deserved to hold his job.


Human nature
There's no pouting in football  
jeff57 : 5/4/2018 12:34 pm : link
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RE: RE: I would argue that Flowers' profession is not the same as mine  
Klaatu : 5/4/2018 12:37 pm : link
In comment 13954317 Rory said:
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In comment 13954307 Bill L said:


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In his profession, competition is inherent in the job and the employer is constantly bringing in someone to improve the spot. Free agents, the draft, currently players on the roster move up and down or out on a continual basis and the employee should be full aware of that and realize what being a professional entails.

Flowers didn't have that opportunity because Beatty got hurt, but what we he expect if he had actually beaten Beatty out on the field? That Beatty would have an understandable temper tantrum? No. He would have said that it's part of the business. What would have happened if, instead of signing Solder, they had drafted a top LT with the idea of that person starting? Should Flowers have also been expected to pout?

Should we be understanding if Gallman ran away from home? Or if Kerry Wynn or Davis Webb had the sniffles?



profession same or different, you're gonna be fucking pissed regardless. He's not pouting, fans are saying stupid shit to validate their claim.

He's looking out for his best interest. Which anyone would do yet he gets chastised for it.

I really question some of the people on this board sometimes...


How is not showing up to work out with your teammates and meet your new Head Coach and Position Coach in his best interest? Don't you think NFL GMs and Coaches talk to each other? If he thinks blowing off the OTA is going to endear him to potential suitors once he hits the open market, he should think again.

He's sucked at his job for three years. I gave him a pass for year one because clearly he was thrust into a role for which he was not prepared, but for the two years after that? Sorry, not sorry that the new regime felt that he had to be replaced.

Tell me why Ereck Flowers deserved to keep his starting LT job? You can't. Tell me why the Giants should have picked up his 5th year option. You can't do that, either. And tell me why he isn't acting like a petulant brat with a ridiculously inflated sense of entitlement, because that's exactly how he's acting.
RE: Flowers  
Beer Man : 5/4/2018 12:40 pm : link
In comment 13954173 DanMetroMan said:
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really seems like a big time loser if this is accurate.
or just an immature kid
Flowers should be  
mdc1 : 5/4/2018 12:59 pm : link
immature on someone else's dime.
Flowers  
Dragon : 5/4/2018 1:09 pm : link
Has to be the worst LT to ever play in the NFL I mean he started like 40+ games and they had to replace his QB like what 50 times, oh no thats not right never. Now lets not forget he had a Carl Lewis type speed merchant playing QB so every tiny mistake is a tragic error. We just paid a LT the record amount to do his job why because this guy is going to never allow a sack again from his former position.

Im so sick of hearing Eli Apple and Ereck Flowers were the reason why this team sucked from start to finish when it was a complete team effort. Lets see what happens with the new and improved line or somewhat improved offensive line I dont even know what to call them at this point.
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mattyblue : 5/4/2018 1:20 pm : link
In comment 13954202 arcarsenal said:
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Lanton Collins should probably just fall in line here and STFU if we're being honest.


This is the truth. Flowers may suck, and may be a bad teammate and all kinds of other shit, but Collins is a dick for going on the radio to screw with the guys livelihood. This isnt the first time either.
RE: Sitting at home when literally every single other person is together  
UConn4523 : 5/4/2018 1:24 pm : link
In comment 13954325 Bill L said:
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working out, getting better, becoming part of the team, helping the team to become a winning franchises,

is not pouting?

Tell me how that helps him and how that is looking out for his best interest.


Collins actually said a lot of players are simply more comfortable and think they get a better workout with their own trainers. Whether thats a good idea is debatable but its not like hes blowing off football.
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