Something to the affect that, "In today's game, on extended drives, you almost always are going to have your quarterback make a play with his feet"
I took that to mean getting a first down with his legs.
Not something Eli is going to do. Yet according to Papa today, the Barkley pick and the passing on a quarterback was predicated on the idea Giants could win another Super Bowl with Eli in the next three seasons
After making this commitment to Eli, and knowing he does not make plays with his legs, it seems surprising that Shurmur would share this.
Bradford had a completion percentage of 71.6% (NFL Record at the time) for 3,877 yards, 20 TDs, 5 picks in 15 games.
I think Eli can be just fine in a Shurmur offense without being a "running qb".
Eli’s footwork is usually indicative of his play at the time
I suspect they see Eli as having been cursed with bad tackles and weak interior making his lack of pure athleticism that much more magnified. In many ways the Giants let their Oline completely fall apart through nothing more than mismanagement and mismatching skills.
Now as far as the QBs go, now that we have the answer, we can dispel a few of the myths. It is not that they did not like any of the QBs. The did. But the issue was, there was no consensus on who they liked. So circling back to their remarks about having to be certain, therein lies the uncertainty. Lack of consensus for any one individual QB.
There was no such issue with Barkley -everyone liked him, so that's how they played it.
That's really all there is to it.
Eli was not using his feet, because his clock said pressure was coming, when sometimes it wasn't, and Eli did not even attempt to extend plays....there were times he threw the ball away or took a dive, when there was time to move in the pocket...
The only way that happens, the line has to demonstrate to Eli he doesn't have to get rid of the ball in under 2 seconds....
Eli has occasionally run a designed rollout. It's not uncommon even in the Gilbride yeats. And anyone who watched him play in college would tell you he did it a LOT more then.
I'm not sure rollouts or bootlegs are really what people mean when they refer to his general ability to be mobile if he has to.
He's not Drew Bledsoe or Kerry Collins, but he's not someone that should ever be running unless he's 15 yards clear.
Everyone remembers the Tyree catch for the catch. I remember it for Eli's feet and his form of escapability.
Good pt which I considered. Just wondering how others saw it
The best thing about Shurmur is his ability to get the most out of whatever pieces he has. He is flexible, which is something we havent seen in many years, even with TC.
As far as his comment, I just take it as pocket awareness, being able to slide in the pocket and extend plays, which Eli can do when he has half way decent protection
Eli Manning will not be starting after game 5 or 6.