Yes - there it is again. I have heard that a number of times... and mostly from people who have made their living evaluating talent in the NFL (as opposed to random casual football fans).
Whether or not the Giants are talented enough to make a run is another story, but upgrading your talent on offense by selecting a guy who everyone seems to agree is the best player in the draft is a step in the right direction. Especially when the alternative was taking a QB with lots of question marks just because he is a QB and we have a high pick.
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So if you are going to squeeze some kind of cyber lemon juice on my words to make up something in your off-the-rail mind, then I agree - don't read my posts.
Its tough to do that. Youre everywhere. Im just telling you you come off as increasingly more annoying. Then you come back with the puerile response of "dont like it? Don't read it."
Thought you were a better poster than that. Guess I was wrong.
I own up to everything I write - so I’m more than willing to be criticized and accept the criticism. In this case, the specific words you chose to associate with me are wrong.
Do I criticize Eli? I do. Do I think he’s at a point of diminishing returns? I do. Do I express that frequently? I don’t know. Maybe. I participate in the subjects I find interesting.
Most amusing to me, is this blowback I get about using the term Jints Central, a moniker for Giants ownership and management I’ve used since I started posting in the ‘90s. A phrase I read in the Daily News for many years growing up in the ‘80s and ‘90s. Basically, it’s just a handy term to condense ownership & management, nothing more than that.
So this recent attempt to make it some pejorative term about the Giants is beyond amusing. Alas, the PC culture has certainly infiltrated BBI.
but the fact that he takes a million bows for trading a 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder for Eli when he could have had Roethlisberger for nothing never ceases to amuse me.
but the fact that he takes a million bows for trading a 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder for Eli when he could have had Roethlisberger for nothing never ceases to amuse me.
Well, E.E. Ernie, the romantic poet that he is, simply "fell in love" with Eli. And that was his criteria - you need to fall in love with your QB.
Based on taking Rivers, I would say it's safe to conclude BR was third on his list of QBs that year.
The great irony is he likely could have had the two better QBs - BR and Rivers - without giving up any compensation... ;)
Jon, like I said, I respect the guy. It just seems like bw goes out of the way to point out the same things over and over again in an attempt to push an agenda that aggravates many on here. If it were different view points, I wouldnt have said a thing. It just seems like the same song and dance criticizing the organization as being set in their ways (though proven wrong this offseason), continuously doubting Eli's ability to be effective again.
This is the first time I directly addressed him on it. I havent been nearly as harsh as I had with other posters who do the same thing.
Ive been over it for a while. Was just making a point.
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but the fact that he takes a million bows for trading a 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder for Eli when he could have had Roethlisberger for nothing never ceases to amuse me.
Well, E.E. Ernie, the romantic poet that he is, simply "fell in love" with Eli. And that was his criteria - you need to fall in love with your QB.
Based on taking Rivers, I would say it's safe to conclude BR was third on his list of QBs that year.
The great irony is he likely could have had the two better QBs - BR and Rivers - without giving up any compensation... ;)
What you two fail to realize is this. There is no guarantee the Giants win even one title with the other two and. We know for a fact the Giants got two with Manning. Is it possible the Giants could have been just as successful or maybe more successful with the other two? Sure. But, again that info is unknown, and is impossible to know. Going by what we know (Manning 2 titles) should give us rest from wondering. Had the Giants failed to get a title with Manning I certainly would understand the 'what if's'. In reality there isn't any reason to say 'what if'
RE: RE: RE: Acorsi, like all GMs, has hits and misses Â
but the fact that he takes a million bows for trading a 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder for Eli when he could have had Roethlisberger for nothing never ceases to amuse me.
Well, E.E. Ernie, the romantic poet that he is, simply "fell in love" with Eli. And that was his criteria - you need to fall in love with your QB.
Based on taking Rivers, I would say it's safe to conclude BR was third on his list of QBs that year.
The great irony is he likely could have had the two better QBs - BR and Rivers - without giving up any compensation... ;)
What you two fail to realize is this. There is no guarantee the Giants win even one title with the other two and. We know for a fact the Giants got two with Manning. Is it possible the Giants could have been just as successful or maybe more successful with the other two? Sure. But, again that info is unknown, and is impossible to know. Going by what we know (Manning 2 titles) should give us rest from wondering. Had the Giants failed to get a title with Manning I certainly would understand the 'what if's'. In reality there isn't any reason to say 'what if'
Also, what many don't consider is it was Manning's personality that made him successful here. Rivers might of had similar success, but I think Ben might be in Jail if he was here. The New York nightlife for a predator? They threw the book at Plax pretty much ending his career for carrying a weapon and shooting himself.
I love that NYC is the death-nail to all the athletes that Â
Yes - there it is again. I have heard that a number of times... and mostly from people who have made their living evaluating talent in the NFL (as opposed to random casual football fans).
Whether or not the Giants are talented enough to make a run is another story, but upgrading your talent on offense by selecting a guy who everyone seems to agree is the best player in the draft is a step in the right direction. Especially when the alternative was taking a QB with lots of question marks just because he is a QB and we have a high pick.
The same causal fans you mention were the same one for years saying that Reese should've done more for the OLine?
RE: I love that NYC is the death-nail to all the athletes that Â
As if there is no nightlife anywhere else in the world that guys cannot get into trouble.
What about that gay mid-west nightclub scene...how come that didn't do in Aaron Rodgers yet?
Your right he didn't get accuse of sexual assault...what was I thinking. I'm sure if he was in NY instead he at least one of the multiple accusations would of went away.
I think any athlete playing today is under tremendous scrutiny for what they do on and off the field. Some of the biggest stars of the past probably couldn't handle the media as it is now. The media is bad everywhere but magnified in NY. Ben R. couldn't keep clean where he was, do you really think he would of been able to in NY?
The media is amplified in NY. That doesn't mean BR's libido Â
That really wasn't my point... My point was he got off easy doing what he did in a smaller market and in a city where things are easily forgiven. The NY media would of been relentless for what he did do. And yes I feel with his personality and what he did he probably would of been worse in a city like NY where everything is amplified.
There it is. Again.
Yes - there it is again. I have heard that a number of times... and mostly from people who have made their living evaluating talent in the NFL (as opposed to random casual football fans).
Whether or not the Giants are talented enough to make a run is another story, but upgrading your talent on offense by selecting a guy who everyone seems to agree is the best player in the draft is a step in the right direction. Especially when the alternative was taking a QB with lots of question marks just because he is a QB and we have a high pick.
Where did I say Eli stinks?
So if you are going to squeeze some kind of cyber lemon juice on my words to make up something in your off-the-rail mind, then I agree - don't read my posts.
Its tough to do that. Youre everywhere. Im just telling you you come off as increasingly more annoying. Then you come back with the puerile response of "dont like it? Don't read it."
Thought you were a better poster than that. Guess I was wrong.
I own up to everything I write - so I’m more than willing to be criticized and accept the criticism. In this case, the specific words you chose to associate with me are wrong.
Do I criticize Eli? I do. Do I think he’s at a point of diminishing returns? I do. Do I express that frequently? I don’t know. Maybe. I participate in the subjects I find interesting.
Most amusing to me, is this blowback I get about using the term Jints Central, a moniker for Giants ownership and management I’ve used since I started posting in the ‘90s. A phrase I read in the Daily News for many years growing up in the ‘80s and ‘90s. Basically, it’s just a handy term to condense ownership & management, nothing more than that.
So this recent attempt to make it some pejorative term about the Giants is beyond amusing. Alas, the PC culture has certainly infiltrated BBI.
a three year troll,not really.
So your stupidity is unintentional? That's unfortunate.
Well, E.E. Ernie, the romantic poet that he is, simply "fell in love" with Eli. And that was his criteria - you need to fall in love with your QB.
Based on taking Rivers, I would say it's safe to conclude BR was third on his list of QBs that year.
The great irony is he likely could have had the two better QBs - BR and Rivers - without giving up any compensation... ;)
Jon, like I said, I respect the guy. It just seems like bw goes out of the way to point out the same things over and over again in an attempt to push an agenda that aggravates many on here. If it were different view points, I wouldnt have said a thing. It just seems like the same song and dance criticizing the organization as being set in their ways (though proven wrong this offseason), continuously doubting Eli's ability to be effective again.
This is the first time I directly addressed him on it. I havent been nearly as harsh as I had with other posters who do the same thing.
Ive been over it for a while. Was just making a point.
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but the fact that he takes a million bows for trading a 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder for Eli when he could have had Roethlisberger for nothing never ceases to amuse me.
Well, E.E. Ernie, the romantic poet that he is, simply "fell in love" with Eli. And that was his criteria - you need to fall in love with your QB.
Based on taking Rivers, I would say it's safe to conclude BR was third on his list of QBs that year.
The great irony is he likely could have had the two better QBs - BR and Rivers - without giving up any compensation... ;)
What you two fail to realize is this. There is no guarantee the Giants win even one title with the other two and. We know for a fact the Giants got two with Manning. Is it possible the Giants could have been just as successful or maybe more successful with the other two? Sure. But, again that info is unknown, and is impossible to know. Going by what we know (Manning 2 titles) should give us rest from wondering. Had the Giants failed to get a title with Manning I certainly would understand the 'what if's'. In reality there isn't any reason to say 'what if'
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but the fact that he takes a million bows for trading a 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder for Eli when he could have had Roethlisberger for nothing never ceases to amuse me.
Well, E.E. Ernie, the romantic poet that he is, simply "fell in love" with Eli. And that was his criteria - you need to fall in love with your QB.
Based on taking Rivers, I would say it's safe to conclude BR was third on his list of QBs that year.
The great irony is he likely could have had the two better QBs - BR and Rivers - without giving up any compensation... ;)
What you two fail to realize is this. There is no guarantee the Giants win even one title with the other two and. We know for a fact the Giants got two with Manning. Is it possible the Giants could have been just as successful or maybe more successful with the other two? Sure. But, again that info is unknown, and is impossible to know. Going by what we know (Manning 2 titles) should give us rest from wondering. Had the Giants failed to get a title with Manning I certainly would understand the 'what if's'. In reality there isn't any reason to say 'what if'
Also, what many don't consider is it was Manning's personality that made him successful here. Rivers might of had similar success, but I think Ben might be in Jail if he was here. The New York nightlife for a predator? They threw the book at Plax pretty much ending his career for carrying a weapon and shooting himself.
As if there is no nightlife anywhere else in the world that guys cannot get into trouble.
What about that gay mid-west nightclub scene...how come that didn't do in Aaron Rodgers yet?
There it is. Again.
It will probably be evident this year why the game has passed Acorsi by. Eventually it happens.
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"The Giants can make a run with Eli."
There it is. Again.
Yes - there it is again. I have heard that a number of times... and mostly from people who have made their living evaluating talent in the NFL (as opposed to random casual football fans).
Whether or not the Giants are talented enough to make a run is another story, but upgrading your talent on offense by selecting a guy who everyone seems to agree is the best player in the draft is a step in the right direction. Especially when the alternative was taking a QB with lots of question marks just because he is a QB and we have a high pick.
The same causal fans you mention were the same one for years saying that Reese should've done more for the OLine?
As if there is no nightlife anywhere else in the world that guys cannot get into trouble.
What about that gay mid-west nightclub scene...how come that didn't do in Aaron Rodgers yet?
Your right he didn't get accuse of sexual assault...what was I thinking. I'm sure if he was in NY instead he at least one of the multiple accusations would of went away.
Doesn't matter...
Doesn't matter...
That really wasn't my point... My point was he got off easy doing what he did in a smaller market and in a city where things are easily forgiven. The NY media would of been relentless for what he did do. And yes I feel with his personality and what he did he probably would of been worse in a city like NY where everything is amplified.