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Dalvin Tomlinson and Avery Moss Comment on New Defense

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/8/2018 5:25 pm
Interesting read.
Tomlinson, Moss adjusting to new defensive scheme - ( New Window )
Part if me really  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2018 5:40 pm : link
Wants to be excited for this defense and team as a whole. But while I think we have arguably the deepest front seven personnel in about a decade, there are still a lot of questionmarks. Like Moss, who is quite talented, and Okwara switching to OLB.

Our D line is looking pretty stout though.
article  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/8/2018 5:43 pm : link
does confirm Okwara moved to linebacker.
How was Arizona's run defenses?  
robbieballs2003 : 5/8/2018 5:44 pm : link
I ask because when I read that he wants his DL getting upfield, making plays in the backfield, and not holding up blockers you sacrifice something. So, we may see some more TFL but we also may see our run D take a step back. I'm fine with this approach if our offense puts up points and puts the pressure on the opposing offenses to keep up. You can see a lot of game changing plays on D. The flip side is if we are struggling offensively then that could expose some holes in our D.
RE: How was Arizona's run defenses?  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/8/2018 6:07 pm : link
In comment 13958341 robbieballs2003 said:
[quote] I ask because when I read that he wants his DL getting upfield, making plays in the backfield, and not holding up blockers you sacrifice something. So, we may see some more TFL but we also may see our run D take a step back. I'm fine with this approach if our offense puts up points and puts the pressure on the opposing offenses to keep up. You can see a lot of game changing plays on D. The flip side is if we are struggling offensively then that could expose some holes in our D. [/quote

I would suggest that heís open to asking guys to be stay at homemade if itís Dallas who IMO have a very average QB and only Elliot now. But vs more pass oriented teams he will be more aggressive. Remains to be seen but I hope heís as innovative and flexible as advertised. .
Arizona's defenses from 2013-2017  
Go Terps : 5/8/2018 6:20 pm : link
Bettcher was LB coach in Arizona 2013-2014 before being promoted to DC for 2015-2017. Here's Arizona's points against ranking in that time period:

---Bettcher hired as LB coach---
2013: 7th
2014: 5th
---Bettcher promoted to DC---
2015: 7th
2016: 14th
2017: 19th

There were lots of things going on with Arizona the last couple years (Carson Palmer hitting the wall, injury to Mathieu, injury to David Johnson), but those rankings don't inspire confidence especially considering their division opponents all endured some significant offensive problems during that time period (which should have been to Arizona's benefit).

The Giants lack a premium pass rusher and Bettcher likes to blitz. To me that's a worrisome combo.
RE: article  
the mike : 5/8/2018 6:36 pm : link
In comment 13958339 Eric from BBI said:
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does confirm Okwara moved to linebacker.


Lots of interesting moving parts. I am most interested to see how the outside LBs shape up...Will be fascinating to see the rotation of guys like Vernon, Okwara, Moss, Martin and Carter.... very different types of players but each could be high impact depending on how they are used.
RE: How was Arizona's run defenses?  
Klaatu : 5/8/2018 7:59 pm : link
In comment 13958341 robbieballs2003 said:
Quote:
I ask because when I read that he wants his DL getting upfield, making plays in the backfield, and not holding up blockers you sacrifice something. So, we may see some more TFL but we also may see our run D take a step back. I'm fine with this approach if our offense puts up points and puts the pressure on the opposing offenses to keep up. You can see a lot of game changing plays on D. The flip side is if we are struggling offensively then that could expose some holes in our D.


2015: Total Rushing Yards: 6th. Yards Per Attempt: 9th.

2016: Total Rushing Yards: 9th. Yards Per Attempt: 3rd.

2017: Total Rushing Yards: 6th. Yards Per Attempt: 3rd.

Couple of notes:

In 2015, the Cardinals offense ranked 1st in total yards and 2nd in points scored. Their pass defense also ranked 9th in net yards gained. They gave up 27 sacks but got 36. No surprise, they were 13-3 that year.

In 2016, their offense ranked 9th in total yards and 6th is points scored. Their pass defense ranked 4th in total yards and 3rd in net yards per attempt. They gave up 41 sacks but got 48. Still very good numbers, but they ended up 7-8-1.

In 2017, their offense fell off a cliff. 22nd in total yards, 25th in points scored. Their pass defense dropped to 14th in total yards, 12th in net yards per attempt. They gave up 52 sacks and only got 32. 8-8.
RE: RE: How was Arizona's run defenses?  
BestFeature : 5/8/2018 8:05 pm : link
In comment 13958476 Klaatu said:
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In comment 13958341 robbieballs2003 said:


Quote:


I ask because when I read that he wants his DL getting upfield, making plays in the backfield, and not holding up blockers you sacrifice something. So, we may see some more TFL but we also may see our run D take a step back. I'm fine with this approach if our offense puts up points and puts the pressure on the opposing offenses to keep up. You can see a lot of game changing plays on D. The flip side is if we are struggling offensively then that could expose some holes in our D.



2015: Total Rushing Yards: 6th. Yards Per Attempt: 9th.

2016: Total Rushing Yards: 9th. Yards Per Attempt: 3rd.

2017: Total Rushing Yards: 6th. Yards Per Attempt: 3rd.

Couple of notes:

In 2015, the Cardinals offense ranked 1st in total yards and 2nd in points scored. Their pass defense also ranked 9th in net yards gained. They gave up 27 sacks but got 36. No surprise, they were 13-3 that year.

In 2016, their offense ranked 9th in total yards and 6th is points scored. Their pass defense ranked 4th in total yards and 3rd in net yards per attempt. They gave up 41 sacks but got 48. Still very good numbers, but they ended up 7-8-1.

In 2017, their offense fell off a cliff. 22nd in total yards, 25th in points scored. Their pass defense dropped to 14th in total yards, 12th in net yards per attempt. They gave up 52 sacks and only got 32. 8-8.


Seems like Betcher's Ds are better in yards allowed than points allowed. Something to worry about?
BestFeature.  
Klaatu : 5/8/2018 8:23 pm : link
There are a number of factors you can attribute to the Cardinals' regression. Injuries and personnel changes on both sides of the ball, a more difficult schedule, hell...maybe even bad luck (it's the Cardinals, after all, and the Curse of the Pottsville Maroons still looms large, lol).
RE: BestFeature.  
BestFeature : 5/8/2018 9:08 pm : link
In comment 13958505 Klaatu said:
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There are a number of factors you can attribute to the Cardinals' regression. Injuries and personnel changes on both sides of the ball, a more difficult schedule, hell...maybe even bad luck (it's the Cardinals, after all, and the Curse of the Pottsville Maroons still looms large, lol).


I just meant that his D has ranked better in yardage than points.
I like it  
idiotsavant : 5/8/2018 9:16 pm : link
Sick of the 'let them
Move down the field then stop em in the red zone' insanity.


Stop the fuckers on 1st and 10 from the 20 if you can. Just get sacks, hammer runners, cause fumbles, create turnovers, make em wish they were sitting on the side.
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