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NFT: Yanks talk 5-10: 17 out of 18 BABY!!!!

superspynyg : 5/10/2018 8:06 am
This is not the game thread.

Out of the last 18 games we have 1 loss to the Astros. Now that is awesome. Not to stir up an old argument but... NYC is a Yankee town again!!!

Even if we lose tonight we will still be tied with the Sux for best record in Baseball. Still have a long season ahead.

What I’ll this t3am do when Drury comes back? Will Andujar still start? I have all but given up on Bird. I think that Austin goes back down with Walker taking 1b full time.

Looking to the future I have to wear two pairs of shades. Ecuase its sooo bright! I would like to add a SP to this team you the deadline. I would love to get DeGrom if the Mets were willing to part but I doubt they would. Fulmer from Det s a name I like.


I have to keep reminding myself to just enjoy this now  
jcn56 : 5/10/2018 8:16 am : link
Can't possibly maintain this level of success over the longer term, but for right now I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

The cameras bouncing while trying to film Torres come into home last night - that's the first time I've seen anything like that in early May. They've developed a real home field advantage, would love to see them continue to build on that.
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Bill2 : 5/10/2018 8:28 am : link
Walker is starting to look like he could be an upgrade over Todd Frazier. Maybe not the clubhouse addition but the core culture is now more set than last years transition.

I just think he could be that professional smart hitter you need in playoff games.

Drury when back does the same and plays a good 3rd base.

Andujar may do well with seasoning and a late season call up. He certainly flashed that he could be our 3rd baseman of the future.

Together, as small off season pick ups they may provide more than Headley and TFrazier did last year. Maybe.

What was Judge saying as he rounded each base on the hr. Seemed the sox first baseman said something and Judge said something back and after each base???
Giving up on Bird?  
Ryan in Albany : 5/10/2018 8:40 am : link
He'll be back by the end of this month.
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mfsd : 5/10/2018 8:42 am : link
In comment 13960029 Bill2 said:
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What was Judge saying as he rounded each base on the hr. Seemed the sox first baseman said something and Judge said something back and after each base???


Good question, would love to know. Hanley did preen like a peacock around the bases after his bomb, I had a feeling Judge was hollering something back at him. Didn’t seem nasty, but looked like he let out a loud whoop in Hanley’s direction

Whatever it was, great seeing so much fire from our guys like that
yea don't understand giving up on Bird  
Stu11 : 5/10/2018 8:44 am : link
He proved when healthy last September/October he can be a force. We can afford to be patient there especially with Walker/Austin giving us a crap ton more than we got from 1B last year.
18-2 in last 20.  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 8:47 am : link
It's ridiculous to give up on Bird at this point. But it would be equally ridiculous too count on him 100%. Walker hitting is important in case Bird goes down again. Unforutnately it's a possibility until he proves otherwise.

Another major injury though, and I think they will look to move on.
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emcca005 : 5/10/2018 8:48 am : link
In comment 13960029 Bill2 said:
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What was Judge saying as he rounded each base on the hr. Seemed the sox first baseman said something and Judge said something back and after each base???


I think Judge was talking to the 1B coach, Moreland was playing first last night so there was no need for any jawing in regards to the Ramirez homer, also Judge isn't one to mix it up with the other team in that manner.
Walker coming around is big...  
Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 8:51 am : link
especially with Drury a wildcard right now and Andujar dealing with some growing pains. That could prove to be a great get moving forward.

It's been said ad nauseum, but we're getting big-time contributions from different players every game. That, as much as any one performance (Didi) or surge (Stanton) is what gives me confidence that this team can have some staying power.
Walker literally has been a huge part  
Stu11 : 5/10/2018 8:58 am : link
of every late inning rally we've had starting in Houston last Thursday when he led off the 9th with a walk. He's not going anywhere. I think when Bird comes back Austin goes down. When Drury comes back it will be interesting to see what happens could get rid of the 13th pitcher or farm out Andujar.
Pretty nervous with Shreve and Holder  
dune69 : 5/10/2018 8:59 am : link
in the 8th last night but they did a good job of wiggling out with runners on.
Stu..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/10/2018 9:02 am : link
that will be an interesting decision.

Andujar has shown he belongs in the big leagues, but do we have room for him? The roster numbers will make it tough to platoon him and Drury. I always like having that 13th pitcher stick around, but you never know.
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mfsd : 5/10/2018 9:07 am : link
In comment 13960053 emcca005 said:
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What was Judge saying as he rounded each base on the hr. Seemed the sox first baseman said something and Judge said something back and after each base???



I think Judge was talking to the 1B coach, Moreland was playing first last night so there was no need for any jawing in regards to the Ramirez homer, also Judge isn't one to mix it up with the other team in that manner.


Ah then I stand corrected, I had it in my head it was Ramirez he was yelling at
Andujar has shown us he is a big-league hitter...  
Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 9:13 am : link
and a good one. But I wouldn't be upset if he went down to work on laying off pitches, because if he continues to swing at everything they're just going to feed him balls out of the zone. But Drury's return is not imminent, he's still working on the migraines or whatever it is he's dealing with.
RE: Walker literally has been a huge part  
guitarguybs12 : 5/10/2018 9:17 am : link
In comment 13960061 Stu11 said:
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of every late inning rally we've had starting in Houston last Thursday when he led off the 9th with a walk. He's not going anywhere. I think when Bird comes back Austin goes down. When Drury comes back it will be interesting to see what happens could get rid of the 13th pitcher or farm out Andujar.


Seriously! Saw this about Walker on RiverAveBlues:

Thursday: Leadoff walk to start three-run ninth inning.
Friday: Leadoff single to start four-run fourth inning.
Saturday: One-out walk to start four-run fifth inning.
Sunday: Leadoff walk to start the three-run eighth inning.
Monday: No game!
Tuesday: One-out double to start the go-ahead seventh inning rally.
Wednesday: Leadoff double to start the four-run eighth inning.
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section125 : 5/10/2018 9:20 am : link
In comment 13960068 mfsd said:
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What was Judge saying as he rounded each base on the hr. Seemed the sox first baseman said something and Judge said something back and after each base???



I think Judge was talking to the 1B coach, Moreland was playing first last night so there was no need for any jawing in regards to the Ramirez homer, also Judge isn't one to mix it up with the other team in that manner.



Ah then I stand corrected, I had it in my head it was Ramirez he was yelling at


Yeah, Judge is the last guy that would ever taunt an opponent. Probably talking to himself or pumping himself up as he rounded the bases. Got to figure he was stoked after crushing Kimbrel in a raucous stadium.
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MadPlaid : 5/10/2018 9:26 am : link
In comment 13960083 guitarguybs12 said:
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of every late inning rally we've had starting in Houston last Thursday when he led off the 9th with a walk. He's not going anywhere. I think when Bird comes back Austin goes down. When Drury comes back it will be interesting to see what happens could get rid of the 13th pitcher or farm out Andujar.



Seriously! Saw this about Walker on RiverAveBlues:

Thursday: Leadoff walk to start three-run ninth inning.
Friday: Leadoff single to start four-run fourth inning.
Saturday: One-out walk to start four-run fifth inning.
Sunday: Leadoff walk to start the three-run eighth inning.
Monday: No game!
Tuesday: One-out double to start the go-ahead seventh inning rally.
Wednesday: Leadoff double to start the four-run eighth inning.

Wow. That's very cool. Always need guys like that who have knack for getting rally's going.
Just thinking out loud here  
rich in DC : 5/10/2018 9:43 am : link
Right now, the Yanks SP does look strong. However, we should also keep in mind that this is a team designed for the long haul (at least 6 core position guys who are still in their rookie deals, lots of power bullpen arms, Severino and other young SP).

With that in mind, at the trade deadline in July, do the Yanks take a risk and go after a ace level young SP? IMO, they might want to examine what's out there.

I was VERY against the Cole rumors, and was not impressed with any of the other SP rumored to be connected to the Yanks this winter. However, as there are an unusually large group of teams who look to be "tanking" and a smaller but significant group of teams who are fading quickly, perhaps the Yanks SHOULD look for match-ups.

I think that with Severino and Tanaka pretty much locks for the post-season rotation (assuming health) and Gray a decent 3rd/4th SP option in the playoffs- but only under Yankee control for this year and next, perhaps another ace is in order.

While I understand that the teams just don't deal with each other, and the price would be EXTREME, I wonder whether the Yanks should be making Syndergaard their primary trade deadline target.

He turns 26 in August, so he's not really old. He is under team control via arbitration through the 2021 season. He "fits" the Yankee profile of power arm with good secondary stuff. He has also handled the NY media relatively well (certainly better than Harvey did).

The problem, of course, would be that the Mets ownership likely does not want to help the Yanks and would probably make an outlandish ask to the Yanks. On the other hand, the Yanks have depth in the minor league system- and the Mets don't- and the Mets need a rebuild.

IMO, no one on the 25 man ML roster should be available (unless the Mets WANT to take Ellsbury), but every minor leaguer not named Sheffield should be. What do you think it would take?
I think when and if Drury can safely come back, he makes great  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 9:45 am : link
super sub Zobrist type.

I prefer to go with 12 pitchers, have 4 bench players. I think when they get Warren and Kahnle back they will.
Rich far more than you think  
Jay on the Island : 5/10/2018 9:46 am : link
It would cost more than what Boston gave up for Sale.
I'm enjoying the hell out of this ride.  
Klaatu : 5/10/2018 9:48 am : link
As an aside, I know a lot of folks here can't stand John Sterling, but I love his schtick.
Syndergaard is likely untouchable  
BigBlueShock : 5/10/2018 9:50 am : link
And he should be. The package to acquire him would be enormous and even then I’m not sure the Mets would even consider dealing him to the Yanks. You’d probably have to START conversations with Gleyber, Sheffield and Frazier, then add other pieces. They aren’t getting Syndergaard if nobody on the 25 man is available and also Sheffield off the table.
I'd rather Cashman looks to make another value acquisition rather  
jcn56 : 5/10/2018 9:53 am : link
than an ace. This team looks like it can ride it's offense if it gets decent starting pitching (I know the pitching of late has been much better than decent). Would rather keep the younger assets wherever possible and just wait out this year for FA next.

Also depends on what German looks like as a starter.
I can’t imagine the Mets trading Syndegaard or really  
mfsd : 5/10/2018 9:56 am : link
anyone of value to the Yanks...there’s always been chatter about how jealous of the Yanks the Wilpons are, I can’t see them ever risking seeing one of their home grown guys win a World Series in pinstripes

What’s amazing to me is the brutal schedule the Yanks have been burning through the last couple weeks...June is more favorable, with series against Texas, Detroit, etc. Plenty of stat booster games for the offense and easier matchups for the pitching staff ahead...but the experience their gaining now proving they can come back against the ALs best will be huge down the stretch and postseason
There was a report  
Jay on the Island : 5/10/2018 10:01 am : link
that Wilpon was absolutely livid after the Yankees traded for Stanton. The last thing he wants to do is help the Yankees win a WS.
RE: I'm enjoying the hell out of this ride.  
jcn56 : 5/10/2018 10:02 am : link
In comment 13960115 Klaatu said:
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As an aside, I know a lot of folks here can't stand John Sterling, but I love his schtick.


I don't mind the schtick, or the goofy HR calls and stupid nicknames. What gets me about Sterling is when I can't watch the game and have to listen, he's constantly blowing calls.

'In the air to left field, that ball is high, that ball is far...

[8 seconds of silence]

..that ball is... caught by the third baseman'

jcn..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/10/2018 10:04 am : link
he did that the other night and used the cover of the wind!!

He said something like, "It's a pop fly to Center field. Oh, it gets caught up in the wind. Torres with the catch"

Reminds me of the old WPIX days when they'd use the camera view to make it seem like a fly ball was leaving the stadium, Scooter would let out a "Holy Cow" and then the outfielder would settle comfortably under the ball
Man this team  
BIG FRED 1973 : 5/10/2018 10:08 am : link
is fun to watch ,whats crazy is its only may 10th and their is so much season left .Looks like the crowd is awesome again too .Not Old Yankee stadium awesome but for the new stadium its good .
why would the Mets ever consider trading their 1 real young asset  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 10:10 am : link
to the Yankees? The backlash would be worse than the Seaver trade.

And in case anyone hasn't noticed, Severino has been way better than him over thpast 2 years. And without the weight lifting and Thor bullshit. Truthfully, even if it were possible, I don't know that I'd do it. I don't want the Mets culture polluting the Yankees clubhouse. THe Yankees have a team of not only great talent, but good people, likeable guys.
I was listening to Sterling for a couple of minutes the other night...  
bceagle05 : 5/10/2018 10:13 am : link
He goes, "Here's the 0-1 to Benintendi...swing in a miss...uhh..he struck him out swinging!" Had absolutely no clue it was a two-strike count. Otherwise, his calls in exciting moments are pretty good, including the Gardy double last night.
RE: jcn..  
jcn56 : 5/10/2018 10:14 am : link
In comment 13960131 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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he did that the other night and used the cover of the wind!!

He said something like, "It's a pop fly to Center field. Oh, it gets caught up in the wind. Torres with the catch"

Reminds me of the old WPIX days when they'd use the camera view to make it seem like a fly ball was leaving the stadium, Scooter would let out a "Holy Cow" and then the outfielder would settle comfortably under the ball


LOL, that's exactly the play I was referring to. My son and I were in the car on the way back from a long trip, and had to endure the game on the radio. We had 12 knot winds that day, apparently enough to carry a HR ball out of the stands and safely back into the infield.
RE: There was a report  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 10:15 am : link
In comment 13960126 Jay on the Island said:
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that Wilpon was absolutely livid after the Yankees traded for Stanton. The last thing he wants to do is help the Yankees win a WS.


not livid enough to do it himself though. WIlpon is acomplete ass. Sadly for the Mets, ownership is their biggest problem. And that can't get traded away or fired.
The only talk in town  
Sec 103 : 5/10/2018 10:18 am : link
and from what can be seen, the only question going forward is the SP... This lineup can only improve, imagine that?
RE: I'm enjoying the hell out of this ride.  
Del Shofner : 5/10/2018 10:26 am : link
In comment 13960115 Klaatu said:
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As an aside, I know a lot of folks here can't stand John Sterling, but I love his schtick.


They replayed on 1010 WINS this morning Sterling's call on the Gardner triple and Gleyber's narrowly being safe at home - it was hilarious. Sterling could hardly get the word "safe" out of his mouth, it was like he was croaking (not dying, croaking like a frog) with all the excitement.
The Sox would trade the Yankees Sale...  
Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 10:28 am : link
before the Mets would trade them Thor. The Wilpons, like Peter Angelos, are not exclusively concerned with winning ballgames. Team decision-making is dictated at least in part by (perceived) PR reaction, and the not entirely irrational belief is that the reaction of fans to certain decisions and the financial consequences of that reaction would outweigh virtually any prospect haul. If you can get back an Acuna or a Vlad Jr. maybe, but if the return is a couple All Star games and the Yankees win a World Series or two with Thor you could understand the reticence.
The cost for Syndergaard would be too huge, I guess  
Heisenberg : 5/10/2018 10:29 am : link
DeGrom would be more likely to be traded, IMO.

My wishful trade target would be Bumgarner. Of course, the Giants are actually playing pretty well. They'd have to falter. But he's an FA after next year and if the Giants start to lose, they may need to blow up that old team
I don't think the Yanks need  
section125 : 5/10/2018 10:29 am : link
another #1 or #2. They need a reliable good pitcher, a solid #3 would be fine. Heck if German pans out, together with Montgomery coming back and Sheffield in the pipeline, why waste good prospects. Adams is still feeling his way back. My concern is Tanaka a bit. He needs to do something other than that crappy 4 seamer he has. I have a feeling he won't cut lose to protect that frayed UCL until the playoffs. Hell if Sonny Gray continues to be aggressive they probably don't need to do a thing.
Some Yankee Stats (courtesy NY Post)  
looie : 5/10/2018 10:34 am : link
1st time they've held sole possession of best record in MLB since 7/27/2012.

In 2012, the last time they won the AL East, they had 1 HR from players age 28 or younger. So far this year they have 48, which leads MLB.

Until the 8th inning last night, the Yankees on the current roster were a collective 3 for 40 vs. Kimbrel with 2 RBIs, both of those produced by Stanton in 2011 when he was with the Marlins. Wow.
RE: I don't think the Yanks need  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 10:35 am : link
In comment 13960171 section125 said:
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another #1 or #2. They need a reliable good pitcher, a solid #3 would be fine. Heck if German pans out, together with Montgomery coming back and Sheffield in the pipeline, why waste good prospects. Adams is still feeling his way back. My concern is Tanaka a bit. He needs to do something other than that crappy 4 seamer he has. I have a feeling he won't cut lose to protect that frayed UCL until the playoffs. Hell if Sonny Gray continues to be aggressive they probably don't need to do a thing.


agree. I'm in no hurry to deal for a pitcher right now. And when Warren and Kahnle come back, the pen becomes even better.
RE: Syndergaard is likely untouchable  
Justlurking : 5/10/2018 10:35 am : link
In comment 13960120 BigBlueShock said:
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And he should be. The package to acquire him would be enormous and even then I’m not sure the Mets would even consider dealing him to the Yanks. You’d probably have to START conversations with Gleyber, Sheffield and Frazier, then add other pieces. They aren’t getting Syndergaard if nobody on the 25 man is available and also Sheffield off the table.


I don't get why no one on the 25 would be available. They have a roster crunch.

Sonny Gray, Frazier, Florial, Drury (assuming headaches go away) - you're telling me Mets hang up? No way. 3 immediate starters and a potential lottery ticket. Obviously could mix and match with Abreu, Tate, Freicer Perez, Medina, etc
Yeah, the best case scenario is Sheffield/German  
bceagle05 : 5/10/2018 10:38 am : link
pitch like a #2. The Yankees have been looking for a strong #2 starter for awhile now - probably since AJ Burnett had a good year in that role in 2009. We've had #1s - CC, then Tanaka, now Sevy - and a bunch of 3s, 4s and 5s, but that "second ace" has been elusive.

Given Cashman's magic touch over the past couple of years, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Sheffield turns into that guy.
RE: Giving up on Bird?  
superspynyg : 5/10/2018 10:38 am : link
In comment 13960043 Ryan in Albany said:
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He'll be back by the end of this month.


Not talent wise..but he is ALWAYS FUCKING INJURED. A player who spends 1/2 the season on the DL is of little use to me.
These late inning comebacks remind me a lot of...  
M.S. : 5/10/2018 10:40 am : link

...the great Yankees teams of the late 1990s and early 2000s.

Really, really nice to see a team do so well with so many young positional players.

Can't keep up this pace, but who cares? This is a very exciting team to watch with several likeable players.

Bumgarner  
looie : 5/10/2018 10:41 am : link
Will be 29 in August. That's starting to get up there in age. You sure you want to give him megabucks and a long-term deal? See D. Price and Red Sox.
I think this is going to be Bird's last chance to show he can stay  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 10:44 am : link
healthy. We know he can play, and his lefty bat is important. But another long term DL stint would make 3 lost years and place him squarely in Nick Johnson land.
RE: RE: Giving up on Bird?  
section125 : 5/10/2018 10:45 am : link
In comment 13960185 superspynyg said:
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He'll be back by the end of this month.



Not talent wise..but he is ALWAYS FUCKING INJURED. A player who spends 1/2 the season on the DL is of little use to me.


You are correct, but last year was a freak undiagnosed broken bone and this year is kind of an offshoot of that. Some players have a run of injuries then settle out. He's 25 or 26. Let's see how he does before writing him off. They have backup incase it goes south again.
Scherzer is the glaring exception...  
Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 10:48 am : link
and Lester got the Cubbies a championship, even if he looked very human last year (albeit after throwing 235+ IP between regular and postseason in 2016). But for the most part these long-term deals for starting pitchers into their mid-30's have very rarely paid off. CC post-opt out was a bad deal, though he has rejuvenated himself. Bumgardner had a phenomenal track record of durability and success until last year, and his injuries have been somewhat flukey. But how much do you want them to gamble on his getting back to sub-3 ERA form and sustaining it for 200+ innings a year?
RE: Giving up on Bird?  
Beer Man : 5/10/2018 10:49 am : link
In comment 13960043 Ryan in Albany said:
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He'll be back by the end of this month.
+1. He hit a HR in extended Spring training yesterday and is starting his first rehab game with the Tampa Tarpons tonight. By next week he should be at AAA-SWB preparing to rejoin the Yanks before months-end
Imo  
Bill2 : 5/10/2018 10:56 am : link
They would be lucky based on an average baseball season NOT to have a pitcher with a severe slump at some point and one more 10 day DL and one more 30 day DL.

They have to get back in shape after those stretches and then gain confidence. Plus Montgomery and German have legit atretching out boundaries.

And as much as we are fans...its one in three minor league pitchers who reach their ceiling...maybe lower.

Add Tanaka and CC age and or vulnerability into our thinking.

We need another SP. We have $13m in cap room. At the half way mark we can afford a $20m pitcher.

We have more minor league RhP than we have slots. We can get this done. All of us will fret that we gave up prospect potential. Like we did when we traded Jesus Montero
The past two days,  
NorwoodWideRight : 5/10/2018 10:59 am : link
and last night especially, have felt more like October baseball rather than May. The stadium was absolutely rocking.
What's got to scare the rest of the league  
Jeever : 5/10/2018 11:00 am : link
is the Yanks just blew thru all the first place teams in the league and the lineup isn't hitting on all cylinders yet. Last nite Gardy rakes. It seems each night it's someone else stepping up which bodes well going forward.

When Drury comes back I think we send Andujar back down so he can keep playing on a daily basis and showcase Drury for possible trade bait. I would love to see us get another Starter and maybe more bullpen help. You never have enough pitching!!

When Bird gets back we can ease him back into the lineup. If anything we send Austin back down so he too can keep fresh.
Bill  
Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 11:12 am : link
Just to clarify, I'm less worried about the cost in prospects than the cost in dollars of a FA signing or an extension. We do have the ammo to get it done, I'm just not sure the potential targets are going to be worth the cost.
What's  
mitch300 : 5/10/2018 11:14 am : link
crazy is if the Yanks would play 500 ball the rest of the season( of course we all expect more) they would have 89 wins! BTW didn't the Yanks offer more for Duda or maybe Bruce than what the Met's got from Tampa/Cleveland gave them. No way the Met's trade with the Yanks.
They're palying at 116 win pace. Over the last 20, .900 ball!  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 11:20 am : link
And against the best of the AL, not the weak sisters. Amazing.
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Keith : 5/10/2018 11:22 am : link
In comment 13960047 mfsd said:
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What was Judge saying as he rounded each base on the hr. Seemed the sox first baseman said something and Judge said something back and after each base???



Good question, would love to know. Hanley did preen like a peacock around the bases after his bomb, I had a feeling Judge was hollering something back at him. Didn’t seem nasty, but looked like he let out a loud whoop in Hanley’s direction

Whatever it was, great seeing so much fire from our guys like that


Cmon guys, you know Judge. He would never bark at the other guys like that. He was just pumped up and saying something to himself and probably the first base coach.
It's weird that for as much as Stanton has struggled, he's really the  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/10/2018 11:25 am : link
only guy killing LHP for the Yanks so far... 400/441/1.133
Good teams find ways to win.  
Keith : 5/10/2018 11:41 am : link
When the pitching isn't great, we score a lot of runs. When the bats are quiet, the pitching is stepped up. When it's late and we need a clutch hit or a clutch out, we get it. This is a really good team.

The job by Holder last night was so important. 2nd and 3rd with one out and he got us out of it. Put the offense in a position to rally and take the lead.
They have to take some chances...  
GiantJake : 5/10/2018 11:41 am : link
and try to get guys like Betances, Holder and Shreve in a groove. They can't keep going to Green, Robertson and Chapman every night. That's not sustainable. It's early May and it's a long season. Hopefully Kahnle and Warren can get back soon and get in the mix.
RE: RE: Syndergaard is likely untouchable  
Jay on the Island : 5/10/2018 12:01 pm : link
In comment 13960181 Justlurking said:
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Sonny Gray, Frazier, Florial, Drury (assuming headaches go away) - you're telling me Mets hang up? No way. 3 immediate starters and a potential lottery ticket. Obviously could mix and match with Abreu, Tate, Freicer Perez, Medina, etc

Yes the Mets would 100% hang up on that offer.
RE: RE: RE: Syndergaard is likely untouchable  
Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13960265 Jay on the Island said:
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Sonny Gray, Frazier, Florial, Drury (assuming headaches go away) - you're telling me Mets hang up? No way. 3 immediate starters and a potential lottery ticket. Obviously could mix and match with Abreu, Tate, Freicer Perez, Medina, etc


Yes the Mets would 100% hang up on that offer.


Do they hang up? No. Do they take it? Also no. Three years of Sale was worth perhaps the best prospect in baseball and a Top 25 pitching prospect in Kopech, plus a couple tertiary pieces, and that was without emotional attachment or rivalry from an org that was 100% committed to a tear-down. Four and a half years of Syndergaard is worth at least that much, probably more, even with the injury considerations, and with the paucity of true aces around baseball they can get it. So yeah, Gleyber/Sheffield is the starting point value-wise, plus considerable tertiary pieces, and that's assuming the Wilpons entertain the idea of trading him at all. Throw in a premium the Yankees would have to pay because they're cross-town, and it becomes more or less a thought exercise.
RE: Bill  
Jay in Toronto : 5/10/2018 12:32 pm : link
In comment 13960233 Dunedin81 said:
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Just to clarify, I'm less worried about the cost in prospects than the cost in dollars of a FA signing or an extension. We do have the ammo to get it done, I'm just not sure the potential targets are going to be worth the cost.


I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.
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Jay in Toronto : 5/10/2018 12:36 pm : link
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Cmon guys, you know Judge. He would never bark at the other guys like that. He was just pumped up and saying something to himself and probably the first base coach.


Agreed, but that is the most emotion I've seen from Judge with respect to one of his accomplishments, perhaps ever. There was actually a bit of a smile.
Stanton and Judge  
Jay in Toronto : 5/10/2018 12:39 pm : link
good things seem to happen when they go with the pitch to right field (including setting themselves and pitchers up to cream pitches elsewhere).
RE: Stanton and Judge  
section125 : 5/10/2018 1:01 pm : link
In comment 13960302 Jay in Toronto said:
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good things seem to happen when they go with the pitch to right field (including setting themselves and pitchers up to cream pitches elsewhere).


This is true. Those two and Gary can flick their wrists toward right and hit it out. Judge should do this because they attack him up and down and away. Slapping a few to right would help. A few doubles in the corner would drop the Ks.
Stanton  
mitch300 : 5/10/2018 1:02 pm : link
is batting like 565 against Boston. Ya gotta love that.
RE: What's got to scare the rest of the league  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 5/10/2018 1:08 pm : link
In comment 13960224 Jeever said:
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is the Yanks just blew thru all the first place teams in the league and the lineup isn't hitting on all cylinders yet. Last nite Gardy rakes. It seems each night it's someone else stepping up which bodes well going forward.

When Drury comes back I think we send Andujar back down so he can keep playing on a daily basis and showcase Drury for possible trade bait. I would love to see us get another Starter and maybe more bullpen help. You never have enough pitching!!

When Bird gets back we can ease him back into the lineup. If anything we send Austin back down so he too can keep fresh.


Playoffs is a different ballgame. Pitching is king. We saw it last year. We are still likely an SP short unless one of German or Sheff rises up or a pre deadline trade. Verlander at the deadline won it for the Stros and missing out on Cole was huge.
RE: RE: Bill  
Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 1:16 pm : link
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Just to clarify, I'm less worried about the cost in prospects than the cost in dollars of a FA signing or an extension. We do have the ammo to get it done, I'm just not sure the potential targets are going to be worth the cost.



I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
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Precisely. The amount of money they have is pretty much irrelevant, the amount they're willing to spend is fixed and giving 1/7th or more of it to a single starting pitcher is a problem when ultimately Judge, Sanchez and Severino will all need to be paid.
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mfsd : 5/10/2018 1:24 pm : link
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Cmon guys, you know Judge. He would never bark at the other guys like that. He was just pumped up and saying something to himself and probably the first base coach.



Agreed, but that is the most emotion I've seen from Judge with respect to one of his accomplishments, perhaps ever. There was actually a bit of a smile.


Yeah I don’t think he was talking shit to anyone on the Sox, just hooting a bit as he rounded the bases. Wasn’t showing anyone up, just showing emotion, which was pretty cool bc he’s usually so guarded
Not to speak heresy hear but . . . .  
gmenrule-va : 5/10/2018 1:27 pm : link
"Bust"bury (Jacoby) is still owed $68 million and I can't see a straight DFA. So, how do you make room? Is trading a guy like Gardner something they will consider?

I understand that based on his last few games this is "heresy", but trades only happen when a team sees value in it for them - - which is exactly why we haven't been able to get rid of "Bust"bury. What other options do they have?

I think Austin goes down to add Bird, and Andujar could go down to add Drury. I think they platoon Bird/Walker in a L/R combo to see if Bird can get his swing back.
As the Ellsbury contract winds down it'll be "movable"...  
Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 1:35 pm : link
in the sense that they can eat 80% of it and find a team to take him, if he's healthy and they throw in a prospect. Alternatively, they could swap him for someone else's bad deal (Jordan Zimmerman maybe) if the money is close enough.
RE: RE: Bill  
Greg from LI : 5/10/2018 1:46 pm : link
In comment 13960290 Jay in Toronto said:
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.


Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.
RE: RE: RE: Bill  
Ace718 : 5/10/2018 2:25 pm : link
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
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Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.


Hank's last hurrah was the 10 year deal they gave A-Rod after he opted out. He's been given the task of watching over the horses. Lol
Under the radar in Yankee minor league pitching  
xman : 5/10/2018 2:26 pm : link
is the guy I think is one of the guys we got from Texas for Beltran. Erik Swanson good physical size too.
RE: Under the radar in Yankee minor league pitching  
chopperhatch : 5/10/2018 2:45 pm : link
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is the guy I think is one of the guys we got from Texas for Beltran. Erik Swanson good physical size too.


You mean Dillon Tate?
RE: RE: RE: Bill  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 2:50 pm : link
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
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Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.


Thankfully. Hank-en-Stein a true embarassment.
RE: RE: Under the radar in Yankee minor league pitching  
Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 2:59 pm : link
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is the guy I think is one of the guys we got from Texas for Beltran. Erik Swanson good physical size too.



You mean Dillon Tate?


Tate is who is he, enigmatic but great stuff but a lot of inconsistency. Swanson was also a part of the deal (as was Nick Green, who has been pitching well too) and he has been dominating AA, albeit without the stuff that Tate has. Could be a fringey MLB guy ala Dietrich Enns, could end up something more.
For those who care  
davek3698 : 5/10/2018 3:13 pm : link
Tampa Bay cut Ty Hensley recently. Hadn't thrown in a game since 2014. Very unfortunate, extensive injury history
really hoping Bird can come back  
RasputinPrime : 5/10/2018 3:13 pm : link
and stay in as part of the core. We need a strong presence in the lineup from the left-side to balance out Judge-Stanton-Sanchez.

Andujar is going to be tough to send down. He could use seasoning but unless he really falls off the table I'd rather he get it with the big club. Drury, Ellsbury and Frazier are all in a holding patterns with no where to play even if they were ready.
RE: For those who care  
RasputinPrime : 5/10/2018 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13960472 davek3698 said:
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Tampa Bay cut Ty Hensley recently. Hadn't thrown in a game since 2014. Very unfortunate, extensive injury history


Hensley and Brackman. Schmidt better not be next on that list.
Alan Horne  
davek3698 : 5/10/2018 3:37 pm : link
might have been the best of them in the 2000s, if not for his injuries.
RE: RE: RE: Bill  
Jay in Toronto : 5/10/2018 3:41 pm : link
In comment 13960364 Greg from LI said:
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
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Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.


Thanks for the correction. Never could keep it straight. Would have been nice if the old man had more imagination in the naming department!
RE: RE: For those who care  
Ace718 : 5/10/2018 3:57 pm : link
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Tampa Bay cut Ty Hensley recently. Hadn't thrown in a game since 2014. Very unfortunate, extensive injury history



Hensley and Brackman. Schmidt better not be next on that list.


There was also a closer who was dominating in the minors and was supposed to take over after Rivera. But he also fell off the table. His last name was also Montgomery
RE: RE: RE: RE: Bill  
Ace718 : 5/10/2018 3:58 pm : link
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
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Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.



Thanks for the correction. Never could keep it straight. Would have been nice if the old man had more imagination in the naming department!


Hal is actually Harold and Hank is actually Henry.
Christian Garcia was the goods  
Greg from LI : 5/10/2018 4:11 pm : link
But was never healthy for more than a few weeks at a time.
The list is long.  
Ace718 : 5/10/2018 4:16 pm : link
Hughes had some success but not what the Yankees expected. Joba was also never the same after the injury in Texas. The killer Bs never panned out. Banuelos and Blackman had no success. But Betances has made it in the pen. Garcia, Hensley, Horne, Montgomery (closer), all went away.

This is what makes Severino so special. First SP since Pettite we have developed. First ace since Guidry.
RE: Just thinking out loud here  
Photoguy : 5/10/2018 4:20 pm : link
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Right now, the Yanks SP does look strong. However, we should also keep in mind that this is a team designed for the long haul (at least 6 core position guys who are still in their rookie deals, lots of power bullpen arms, Severino and other young SP).

With that in mind, at the trade deadline in July, do the Yanks take a risk and go after a ace level young SP? IMO, they might want to examine what's out there.

I was VERY against the Cole rumors, and was not impressed with any of the other SP rumored to be connected to the Yanks this winter. However, as there are an unusually large group of teams who look to be "tanking" and a smaller but significant group of teams who are fading quickly, perhaps the Yanks SHOULD look for match-ups.

I think that with Severino and Tanaka pretty much locks for the post-season rotation (assuming health) and Gray a decent 3rd/4th SP option in the playoffs- but only under Yankee control for this year and next, perhaps another ace is in order.

While I understand that the teams just don't deal with each other, and the price would be EXTREME, I wonder whether the Yanks should be making Syndergaard their primary trade deadline target.

He turns 26 in August, so he's not really old. He is under team control via arbitration through the 2021 season. He "fits" the Yankee profile of power arm with good secondary stuff. He has also handled the NY media relatively well (certainly better than Harvey did).

The problem, of course, would be that the Mets ownership likely does not want to help the Yanks and would probably make an outlandish ask to the Yanks. On the other hand, the Yanks have depth in the minor league system- and the Mets don't- and the Mets need a rebuild.

IMO, no one on the 25 man ML roster should be available (unless the Mets WANT to take Ellsbury), but every minor leaguer not named Sheffield should be. What do you think it would take?



God......if the Mets did that, fires would be burning outside Citi Field. Alderson would have to hire bodyguards.
RE: The list is long.  
giants#1 : 5/10/2018 4:28 pm : link
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Hughes had some success but not what the Yankees expected. Joba was also never the same after the injury in Texas. The killer Bs never panned out. Banuelos and Blackman had no success. But Betances has made it in the pen. Garcia, Hensley, Horne, Montgomery (closer), all went away.

This is what makes Severino so special. First SP since Pettite we have developed. First ace since Guidry.


Wang doesn't count? Damn interleague....
RE: RE: The list is long.  
Ace718 : 5/10/2018 4:33 pm : link
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Hughes had some success but not what the Yankees expected. Joba was also never the same after the injury in Texas. The killer Bs never panned out. Banuelos and Blackman had no success. But Betances has made it in the pen. Garcia, Hensley, Horne, Montgomery (closer), all went away.

This is what makes Severino so special. First SP since Pettite we have developed. First ace since Guidry.



Wang doesn't count? Damn interleague....


Forgot about him. But he never had the hype coming up from the system like a lot of other names I listed. Banuelos was a can't miss prospect.
Yup, I remember Wang and Cano  
giants#1 : 5/10/2018 4:36 pm : link
basically coming up together as unheralded prospects and far exceeding all expectations, at least until the foot injury for Wang.
RE: Yup, I remember Wang and Cano  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 4:39 pm : link
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basically coming up together as unheralded prospects and far exceeding all expectations, at least until the foot injury for Wang.


They and Melky Cabrera debuted together at Fenway in 2005.

Wang would be great on this team. Pre-injury, he was an innings eating, ground ball machine who worked fast.
RE: Yup, I remember Wang and Cano  
Ace718 : 5/10/2018 4:39 pm : link
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basically coming up together as unheralded prospects and far exceeding all expectations, at least until the foot injury for Wang.

Wang was awesome. Had 2 great years under his belt and was working towards the 3rd great season. He tried multiple comebacks with different organizations. But never really worked out.
Keith Law on Loaisiga  
Greg from LI : 5/10/2018 4:42 pm : link
Via RAB:

Loaisiga pitched at 94-96 mph in his five-inning outing, with some downhill plane to it, and even bumped a single 97. His slider was sharp at 85-87, and he threw a more curveball-shaped breaker at 82. He’d been mostly curveball last year, so I think these are two distinct pitches, with the slider either new or just massively improved … His changeup came in at 86-89 and some had splitter-like bottom, while others turned over more like a straight change, but all three pitches were comfortably above-average and flashing plus … There are some reasons to question his ultimate role, including the delivery and his size, but that’s a starter’s arsenal and more than enough feel and control right now to project him there.
RE: RE: RE: The list is long.  
Photoguy : 5/10/2018 4:44 pm : link
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Hughes had some success but not what the Yankees expected. Joba was also never the same after the injury in Texas. The killer Bs never panned out. Banuelos and Blackman had no success. But Betances has made it in the pen. Garcia, Hensley, Horne, Montgomery (closer), all went away.

This is what makes Severino so special. First SP since Pettite we have developed. First ace since Guidry.



Wang doesn't count? Damn interleague....



Forgot about him. But he never had the hype coming up from the system like a lot of other names I listed. Banuelos was a can't miss prospect.



Steve White was another. I saw him in Battle Creek in 2004, and he had the goods. Tore up his shoulder or something, and never was the same.
Braunstein's Met & Yankee Minor League Reporter  
davek3698 : 5/10/2018 4:46 pm : link
Did anyone here subscribe to this? Man, I used to love getting those yellow papers in the mail every so often.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Bill  
Jay in Toronto : 5/10/2018 5:14 pm : link
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
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Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.



Thanks for the correction. Never could keep it straight. Would have been nice if the old man had more imagination in the naming department!



Hal is actually Harold and Hank is actually Henry.


Oh, that is much more creative.

Is the daughter Hermione?
Feels like  
dune69 : 5/10/2018 10:36 pm : link
deja vu
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