Today starts the NFL career of 3 UDFA offensive linemen for the Giants.
Norwell was considered a Day Three prospect back in 2014, but went undrafted after playing for a major college program-Ohio State. Norwell really impressed in camp. Enough to make the final 53, and to be named a starter in Game 7.
The Giants have signed 3 UDFA players with a similar background. Each played at a major school-Nebraska, SMU, and Missouri.
1.Evan Brown-Center, SMU 6'2 1/2" 302 pounds
Steady starter for SMU, who shocked many with his Pro Day where he had a 36 inch vertical, and lifted the bar 36 times. Gettleman has talked about finding interior offensive linemen with a strong lower trunk, and Brown certainly has that.
2.Nick Gates, guard/tackle Nebraska 6' 5 3/8" 307 pounds
Three year starter with his soph season at right tackle and final 2 years at left tackle. A Combine invite that went undrafted. Some articles have speculated the Giants plan to move him inside.
3.Tyler Howell-tackle Missouri 6' 8 3/8" 323 pounds.
Massive tackle with 10 1/2 inch hands, 35 5/8 inch arms and a wingspan of over 86 inches. Howell started his college career at Butler Community College. Was considered in the nation's Top 5 community college O Lineman after the 2015 season before has transfer to Missouri. Played two seasons at left tackle for Missouri. Speculation is that the Giants will be moving Howell to the right side from day one.
Who will become the next Gettleman Hog Molly find?
Without Pro/,Con scouting reports I have no clue but I'll guess Brown.
Without Pro/,Con scouting reports I have no clue but I'll guess Brown.
Hayes s/,b hates.
And I meant Gate...had the body on the wrong guy.
reminds of richie seubert
That Howell guy has Phil Loadholdt size.
reminds of richie seubert
Be great if he can move a little bit too.
All three linemen appear to need at least a year in an NFL program before they should see the field. Howell reminds me of Michael Bamiro, who spent some time with the Giants after making news with a big UDFA salary guarantee from the Eagles: the massive frame projects to the NFL, but for every Andrew Norwell there are at least a dozen guys who never even make a roster.
Read articles on Gates that believed he came out a year earlier than he should have & that physically he is not ready.As the above poster said,weight room & a years' apprenticeship on the practice squad could do wonders!
Maybe overdue...
There's a few cutups of Howell out there too. Doesn't react to quickness well, but seemed fairly effective.
Tyler Howell - ( New Window )
I'm psyched to see what happens. All of them are interesting - I'd pick Gates as the most likely to surprise but maybe Evan Brown has some Shaun O'Hara-like qualities.
It's mind boggling to think higher ups in the Giants wanted to cut Victor Cruz.
The sobering thought is, what could Eli have done, if he had an OL and running game in front of him, these past 6 seasons?
Are you stu-stu-stupid or something? We'll probably never know, but my theory is Reese, Cruz has average-poor measurable and Coughlin holds onto BC players for dear life.
Hernandez has signed.
The Gm essentially evaluated the player incorrectly and was just lucky the rest of the league did the same.
The Gm essentially evaluated the player incorrectly and was just lucky the rest of the league did the same.
The scouts deserve most of the in these scenario's.
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you fired the waterboy, so you have zero credibility! BTW, I believe it was TC that wanted to cut Cruz.
Are you stu-stu-stupid or something? We'll probably never know, but my theory is Reese, Cruz has average-poor measurable and Coughlin holds onto BC players for dear life.
Maybe so, but Cruz went to UMass.
The size of the bonus suggests to me that the Jints may have had some competition for his services.
It is always good to know that another NFL valued the services of the guy we wanted.
The Gm essentially evaluated the player incorrectly and was just lucky the rest of the league did the same.
Of course you have to give the GM credit for finding UDFA. It's not like they just pick a name out of a hat. They probably have tons of players they want to draft, but you only have 6-8 picks on avg. Once you get to the back-end, there are guys with tons of question marks, but the ability to see past them and get the best players, I give them even more credit for those picks.
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you fired the waterboy, so you have zero credibility! BTW, I believe it was TC that wanted to cut Cruz.
Are you stu-stu-stupid or something? We'll probably never know, but my theory is Reese, Cruz has average-poor measurable and Coughlin holds onto BC players for dear life.
Maybe so, but Cruz went to UMass.
My bad. Makes sense, if he went to BC we would have drafted him first round.
great analysis and I agree with the comp. If he ends up anything close to Kelce it will be quite the find. Hoping the zone blk system helps him excel.
The Gm essentially evaluated the player incorrectly and was just lucky the rest of the league did the same.
Interesting way to look at it. If and only if all draft picks are better than the gem UDFA, can you give the GM credit. Yep.
Brown seems like the most likely to make the team given the roster and if Gates shows the ability to backup RT or G, he's next.
Howell looks like a practice squad longshot at this point.
But we won't know about any of them until they put pads on and start hitting.
Here is the list of OL
Solder
Hernandez
Jones
Omaneh
Flowers
Wheeler
Jerry
Greco
Halapio
Bisnatoway
that is 10 above, plus the UDFA, etc, Becton, Brown, Cooper, Gates, Howell, Sokoli
Here is the list of OL
Solder
Hernandez
Jones
Omaneh
Flowers
Wheeler
Jerry
Greco
Halapio
Bisnatoway
that is 10 above, plus the UDFA, etc, Becton, Brown, Cooper, Gates, Howell, Sokoli
I think they will keep 9. The locks are Solder, Omameh, Jones, Hernandez, Flowers(unless traded), Wheeler. That leaves 3 spots between Gates, Jerry, Bisnowaty, Greco, Halapio, Brown. We could see a veteran C or OT signed at the end of cuts but as of today I think the backup OL will be Wheeler, Jerry, Halapio, Gates. Brown could beat out Halapio as the backup center with a good camp but will likely go to the practice squad.