One of Cashman's shrewdest offseason moves was unloading Headley's 13 million this year, without giving up one prospect...but only Bryan Mitchell. Who all us Yanks fans knew was a fringe bullpen prospect at best. At the time I was surprised Cash pulled that off. Getting rid of Headley was HUGE for luxury tax purposes but also for opening up a spot for a better, younger player. And it really was an amazing move when you see how last off season developed. 1 year 13 mill didn't seem that terrible at the time. But when you see the 1 year deals guys like Moustakas (6.5 mill), Walker (4 mill), etc. took...it ends up be a crazy good deal by Cash.
Reason I'm re-hashing this is Headley was DFA'ed by the Padres yesterday. And Mitchell has been moved to bullpen after being one of the worst, and most wild, starters in MLB this year.
After the Headley trade, do you really think the Padres even answer the phone if Cashman calls? Talk about getting soaked.
Since Cashman decided to go young and cheap he has been on an incredible run. I have never seen a team with this much young talent.
Since Cashman decided to go young and cheap he has been on an incredible run. I have never seen a team with this much young talent.
Yup, he hasn't been perfect. And the Ellsbury and Headley signings were actually head scratchers at the time they were made. So it isn't like it is a hindsight type thing, which there is always plenty of in sports.
But like you said, Cash has been amazing since focusing on the youth movement. Not sure if it was his idea, ownership, or a combination of both...but Cash has had one of the better 4 year stretches a GM can have.
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Ellsbury and Headly contracts are certainly near the top. Ridiculous money for very average players. He must have used the same sorcery on Padres GM that Headley's agent used on him to dump Headley.
Since Cashman decided to go young and cheap he has been on an incredible run. I have never seen a team with this much young talent.
Yup, he hasn't been perfect. And the Ellsbury and Headley signings were actually head scratchers at the time they were made. So it isn't like it is a hindsight type thing, which there is always plenty of in sports.
But like you said, Cash has been amazing since focusing on the youth movement. Not sure if it was his idea, ownership, or a combination of both...but Cash has had one of the better 4 year stretches a GM can have.
Can't compare the Headley and Ellsbury contracts. Headley's was actually reasonable for a starting 3rd baseman. It was a year too long. But $13 mill wasn't awful.
But WTF was he thinking on Ellsbury? That was just so ridiculously bad, and trying to make up for Cano leaving (for that money it was smart to let him go) was just a bad thought process. It was so bad you have to wonder if there was outside influence from above.
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Ellsbury and Headly contracts are certainly near the top. Ridiculous money for very average players. He must have used the same sorcery on Padres GM that Headley's agent used on him to dump Headley.
Since Cashman decided to go young and cheap he has been on an incredible run. I have never seen a team with this much young talent.
Yup, he hasn't been perfect. And the Ellsbury and Headley signings were actually head scratchers at the time they were made. So it isn't like it is a hindsight type thing, which there is always plenty of in sports.
But like you said, Cash has been amazing since focusing on the youth movement. Not sure if it was his idea, ownership, or a combination of both...but Cash has had one of the better 4 year stretches a GM can have.
Can't compare the Headley and Ellsbury contracts. Headley's was actually reasonable for a starting 3rd baseman. It was a year too long. But $13 mill wasn't awful.
But WTF was he thinking on Ellsbury? That was just so ridiculously bad, and trying to make up for Cano leaving (for that money it was smart to let him go) was just a bad thought process. It was so bad you have to wonder if there was outside influence from above.
Wasn't Ellsbury signed by little Stein, over Cash's objection...or am I miss-remembering that signing?
That makes a lot of sense considering since then, we haven’t heard much from anyone else on what the Yankees should do. It Cashman’s way and only his way.
Which is a double edged sword - on one hand, it’s great he’s carried his father’s willingness to spend money on the team...but it is also inherently foolish - spending money just to spend money, to make a splash and garner headlines led to several bad contracts. It also helped keep the stadium full for years, which is part of the calculus for the Yanks...it took a while for Cash to convince Hal the free agent market was no longer a good way to keep the team competitive.
After all, years of revenue sharing means a lot of mid market clubs finally had the money to pay to keep their home grown stars, so the Yanks couldn’t count on such guys hitting the market consistently
Point being, after 2013 Cano, Granderson and Pettitte came off the books, which equaled about $42 million in salary. In 2014, we added Ellsbury and McCann for about $40 million
We also then signed Tanaka that offseason, if memory serves the Yanks claimed they wanted to get under the luxury tax that year, but thought Tanaka too good to pass up
In sum, I think signing Ellsbury was the last bad deal that came from the often foolish plan to replace salary with salary. They seem to have finally learned their lesson
Which is a double edged sword - on one hand, it’s great he’s carried his father’s willingness to spend money on the team...but it is also inherently foolish - spending money just to spend money, to make a splash and garner headlines led to several bad contracts. It also helped keep the stadium full for years, which is part of the calculus for the Yanks...it took a while for Cash to convince Hal the free agent market was no longer a good way to keep the team competitive.
After all, years of revenue sharing means a lot of mid market clubs finally had the money to pay to keep their home grown stars, so the Yanks couldn’t count on such guys hitting the market consistently
Point being, after 2013 Cano, Granderson and Pettitte came off the books, which equaled about $42 million in salary. In 2014, we added Ellsbury and McCann for about $40 million
We also then signed Tanaka that offseason, if memory serves the Yanks claimed they wanted to get under the luxury tax that year, but thought Tanaka too good to pass up
In sum, I think signing Ellsbury was the last bad deal that came from the often foolish plan to replace salary with salary. They seem to have finally learned their lesson
Great post , but might be speaking early until we see what happens this offseason. They could realistically spend over a Billion dollars this offseason easily on 4 players if they want to.
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Again, i'm not defending the deal, but I do remember what the condition of the Yanks were when the deal was made. It wasn't much different than the Giants overspending on defense in 2016 to make one more run while Eli was still here.
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Not supposed to be an all day rain. May have to wait awhile though
Thank you.
Yup, the tarp is coming off the field now and they've set a start time (tentative) of 3:45
On an unrelated note, I think anyone sitting behind home plate who feels compelled to talk on their phone while waving madly to someone watching on TV during game play should be waterboarded.
On an unrelated note, I think anyone sitting behind home plate who feels compelled to talk on their phone while waving madly to someone watching on TV during game play should be waterboarded.
+1 LMFAO
Yep. We're 6-7 weeks into the season now, too.