pick, contract the team. It's amazing how lucky some teams have been in the lottery. The Spurs have been in the lottery 3 times, and moved up all three times (Robinson, Elliot, Duncan). The Cavs have moved up twice recently..once for Kyrie and once for Wiggins.
The Knicks will definitely be in the top three of teams picking 9th or later. Despite all of the BPA talk, I still think the Knicks go Mikhal Bridges if available, or Bamba/Carter if one of them is. Most likely Bridges. He would be close to BPA at #9, plus the right fit.
in W-L and their resulting position in the lottery proves the faults of the lottery system and actually violate the concept of reverse order drafting.
If you finish low 10 3 straight years but the ball falls to #1 3 straight years you can turn around with a great young team while 3 straight years of the worst record and draw the 9/10 spot 3 straight years you could be in the dumpster another 5 years +.
Knicks havent had any luck in 30 years since the Ewing draft...
Obviously want to be in the top 3 which changes everything, but I would be happy to come away with Mikal Bridges or Sexton. Also really like Knox but very raw.
If Porter somehow drops and his medicals clear, I would be all over him. I could see him being the best player in this draft. A rare talent.
I know its unlikely on both sides, but I would be open to trading the 9th for the Clippers 12th and 13th picks. The Knicks badly need an influx of talent on the roster.
Obviously want to be in the top 3 which changes everything, but I would be happy to come away with Mikal Bridges or Sexton. Also really like Knox but very raw.
If Porter somehow drops and his medicals clear, I would be all over him. I could see him being the best player in this draft. A rare talent.
I know its unlikely on both sides, but I would be open to trading the 9th for the Clippers 12th and 13th picks. The Knicks badly need an influx of talent on the roster.
They need star talent, not just more talent. But by the same token, getting 2 picks gives you 2 shots as opposed to 1. Historically I wouldn't imagine the "star" rate of players picked at 9 is significantly higher than at 12, so that's a trade I would certainly do but doubt LAC would do.
Glad theyre changing it but they didnt do nearly enough. Percentages should be based on winning % with some floors on how low you can drop. The fact that the Knicks won 8 more than worst record and had closer odds to nuggets who won 18 more games than them is ridiculous.
That said, they need to tank it up next season if KP is out until January. Just go all in on losing.
Missed the Sacramento spot by 2 games. That hurts- 2nd would have been nice. How about Orlando falling to 6 after blatantly tanking? That franchise is awful.
Im still excited with the players that should be available at 9. At least they didnt move down...
And how about Boston projecting to have 4 1st round picks next year? Man o man do the rich get richer. The sixers also should get a really good player in this draft along with max cap space.
in W-L and their resulting position in the lottery proves the faults of the lottery system and actually violate the concept of reverse order drafting.
If you finish low 10 3 straight years but the ball falls to #1 3 straight years you can turn around with a great young team while 3 straight years of the worst record and draw the 9/10 spot 3 straight years you could be in the dumpster another 5 years +.
up was not putting together a deal with Washington for their pick. They traded #5 to the Wolves for Foye/Miller. Supposedly Walsh was in talks for the pick but they couldn't agree. As for Curry, it's a miracle he lasted as long as he did in that draft. Bums like Thabeet and Flynn were taken ahead of him. It's more a case of the Warriors getting a ton of luck than us being unlucky. Donnie's other mistake was not tanking the season. Even after they traded Crawford and Zach early in the season, they were still playing to win.
...because they won meaningless games at the end of those seasons. I know people tend to overlook that and claim it wasn't meant to be, but when you end with Gallinari and Hill - well you can see how those meaningless wins can change the course of a franchise.
As for this year - think the pick will either be Bridges from Nova or Sexton. If it's Sexton, that's an admission that Ntilkina was a bust pick. It will be funny to see how some hear "spin it" when they claim Ntilkina would make a "solid, defensive minded 2 guard" when they kid is a 35% shooter. Sjhould NEVER had let Phil make that pick, and the fire him a few days later.
Didnt they lose the chance to draft Curry the same way by winning a few meaningless games the last week of the season?
No they lost steph curry because donnie Walsh couldn't keep his mouth shut
Yep - same thing with Reese when he openly pined for Conklin and Floyd, and git jumped twice by the Titans and Bears, and ended up with the "bad apple"
...because they won meaningless games at the end of those seasons. I know people tend to overlook that and claim it wasn't meant to be, but when you end with Gallinari and Hill - well you can see how those meaningless wins can change the course of a franchise.
As for this year - think the pick will either be Bridges from Nova or Sexton. If it's Sexton, that's an admission that Ntilkina was a bust pick. It will be funny to see how some hear "spin it" when they claim Ntilkina would make a "solid, defensive minded 2 guard" when they kid is a 35% shooter. Sjhould NEVER had let Phil make that pick, and the fire him a few days later.
How would Sexton be an admission that Frank was a mistake? An NBA roster starts 2 guards, and some teams run 3 for stretches. And Frank is long enough to play the 3 too.
I swear, some people on here just bash the Knicks now without watching. Things aren't going fantastic but theres a bunch of teams worse off now.
Making definitive statements after a rookie season never usually turns out well. It's not lke Frank was unplayable.
...because they won meaningless games at the end of those seasons. I know people tend to overlook that and claim it wasn't meant to be, but when you end with Gallinari and Hill - well you can see how those meaningless wins can change the course of a franchise.
As for this year - think the pick will either be Bridges from Nova or Sexton. If it's Sexton, that's an admission that Ntilkina was a bust pick. It will be funny to see how some hear "spin it" when they claim Ntilkina would make a "solid, defensive minded 2 guard" when they kid is a 35% shooter. Sjhould NEVER had let Phil make that pick, and the fire him a few days later.
How would Sexton be an admission that Frank was a mistake? An NBA roster starts 2 guards, and some teams run 3 for stretches. And Frank is long enough to play the 3 too.
I swear, some people on here just bash the Knicks now without watching. Things aren't going fantastic but theres a bunch of teams worse off now.
Making definitive statements after a rookie season never usually turns out well. It's not lke Frank was unplayable.
Not to mention fizdale already said he is a positionless coach
It feels like every season that we are losing a draft slot or two in the last game alone. You could call it pride but i'm pretty sure your franchise has to not be a joke to substantiate that claim. It's just stupidity.
RE: RE: RE: As someone who doesn't watch college bb
First, I'm afraid of drafting players that can be played off the floor in certain situations. Bagley had severe issues with defensive awareness. He is not a rim protector and is skinny. He *should* have the tools to be a good one on one defender, but it's not like he's a surefire offensive star. He has a shaky shot and no post game, he relied on athleticism, he was a bona fide scrapper. His FT% has me worried his shot isn't directly transferable. Carter I am less worried about, but I think he can be forced to the bench in small ball lineups. KP has issues on switches himself, introducing 2 guys have me worried.
Second, center are easy to come buy in the NBA through FA. It's the most saturated position in the NBA. Randle is a FA who I'd target if Kanter opts out. There's also guys like Deandre Jordan. Cousins who might be a top 20-25 player in the league may have no interest and could potentially be picked up at good value. It's just every it seems teams knock center out of the park. If I'm rolling the dice on a 5 I want a surefire defensive stud. I'd be fine with Bamba. Gobert can survive small ball lineups because no one can score on him. Bagley and Carter don't strike me as those types.
I said this on the other thread, I'd rather trade #9 for Bobby Portis + than take either of those 2 guys. Not that I don't think they'll be busts, but Portis is already an offensive stud that gives you spacing, passing, and rebounding. Chicago would do that too. Why risk it on an unknown when you can proven 5s at a discount in the NBA?
.. he likely said good looking prospects and we will explore everyone in this class
Then he and other nyg scouts SCOUTED those players, titans / bears moved up and BBI got the vapors.
Not buying it - when you get jumped TWICE like they did - it's because you were talking too much, which Reese was. You do know even making a comment like "good looking prospects" is pure speculation, but the getting jumped twice is fact.
...because they won meaningless games at the end of those seasons. I know people tend to overlook that and claim it wasn't meant to be, but when you end with Gallinari and Hill - well you can see how those meaningless wins can change the course of a franchise.
As for this year - think the pick will either be Bridges from Nova or Sexton. If it's Sexton, that's an admission that Ntilkina was a bust pick. It will be funny to see how some hear "spin it" when they claim Ntilkina would make a "solid, defensive minded 2 guard" when they kid is a 35% shooter. Sjhould NEVER had let Phil make that pick, and the fire him a few days later.
How would Sexton be an admission that Frank was a mistake? An NBA roster starts 2 guards, and some teams run 3 for stretches. And Frank is long enough to play the 3 too.
I swear, some people on here just bash the Knicks now without watching. Things aren't going fantastic but theres a bunch of teams worse off now.
Making definitive statements after a rookie season never usually turns out well. It's not lke Frank was unplayable.
So Frank is now a 2-guard, or maybe even a 3? really? Is that how you will rationalize this. He's 6'5 - too small to play the 3, and he doesn't shoot well enough to play the 2. It's Knicks fan like you who have spent the last 18 years acting like this team has a plan. Yea, "let's just move" Frank to the 2 or 3, as if that as the plan all along? The guy who drafted him got canned a week later, but that was the "plan"
RE: RE: RE: Knicks Lost Out on Westbrook and Curry
...because they won meaningless games at the end of those seasons. I know people tend to overlook that and claim it wasn't meant to be, but when you end with Gallinari and Hill - well you can see how those meaningless wins can change the course of a franchise.
As for this year - think the pick will either be Bridges from Nova or Sexton. If it's Sexton, that's an admission that Ntilkina was a bust pick. It will be funny to see how some hear "spin it" when they claim Ntilkina would make a "solid, defensive minded 2 guard" when they kid is a 35% shooter. Sjhould NEVER had let Phil make that pick, and the fire him a few days later.
How would Sexton be an admission that Frank was a mistake? An NBA roster starts 2 guards, and some teams run 3 for stretches. And Frank is long enough to play the 3 too.
I swear, some people on here just bash the Knicks now without watching. Things aren't going fantastic but theres a bunch of teams worse off now.
Making definitive statements after a rookie season never usually turns out well. It's not lke Frank was unplayable.
Not to mention fizdale already said he is a positionless coach
Positionless = "we know he' isn;t a PG, so let's act like we knew all along he could play the 2 or the 3, and act like that was the plan all along. Some Knick fans are so stupid, they spin everything this dysfunctional franchise does
RE: RE: RE: Knicks Lost Out on Westbrook and Curry
So Frank is now a 2-guard, or maybe even a 3? really? Is that how you will rationalize this. He's 6'5 - too small to play the 3, and he doesn't shoot well enough to play the 2. It's Knicks fan like you who have spent the last 18 years acting like this team has a plan. Yea, "let's just move" Frank to the 2 or 3, as if that as the plan all along? The guy who drafted him got canned a week later, but that was the "plan"
I thought Frank was a 2 guard from the beginning. So being a good passer now hurts you as a 2 guard?
And his shooting is final I guess. He will remain a 32% shooter for his career and never improve? KP was on fire to start his career? How about guys like Garry Harris and Derozan?
All Im saying is he was the youngest player in the league last year or one of them. He is already showing promise as a defender. His passing is a major plus as a 2 guard. If he gets to even 36% shooting from 3 I think he's a long time starting 2 guard in the NBA. Or can we not expect for any improvement?
...because they won meaningless games at the end of those seasons. I know people tend to overlook that and claim it wasn't meant to be, but when you end with Gallinari and Hill - well you can see how those meaningless wins can change the course of a franchise.
As for this year - think the pick will either be Bridges from Nova or Sexton. If it's Sexton, that's an admission that Ntilkina was a bust pick. It will be funny to see how some hear "spin it" when they claim Ntilkina would make a "solid, defensive minded 2 guard" when they kid is a 35% shooter. Sjhould NEVER had let Phil make that pick, and the fire him a few days later.
How would Sexton be an admission that Frank was a mistake? An NBA roster starts 2 guards, and some teams run 3 for stretches. And Frank is long enough to play the 3 too.
I swear, some people on here just bash the Knicks now without watching. Things aren't going fantastic but theres a bunch of teams worse off now.
Making definitive statements after a rookie season never usually turns out well. It's not lke Frank was unplayable.
Not to mention fizdale already said he is a positionless coach
Positionless = "we know he' isn;t a PG, so let's act like we knew all along he could play the 2 or the 3, and act like that was the plan all along. Some Knick fans are so stupid, they spin everything this dysfunctional franchise does
No, positionless = versatile. That was always park of Frank's appeal. The only question is where does he fit in offensively, but even that's becoming less relevant in the NBA.
who everyone seemed to compare Frank to last year, had a pretty subpar offensive rookie year and was a turnstile on defense for the first few years. Frank can at least hold his own on defense.
If Frank was 21-22 and was struggling to see 20 minutes a game like DJ Wilson or Justin Jackson or Tyler lydon I'd be worried.
Frank was an undersized 19 year old coming from overseas. He has shown some very positive aspects, has shown flashes off offensive skill. Consistency is his next step. He is going to get better. Just like Lonzo Ball will. People love to shit on guys way too early. I wonder what your early thoughts were on Gary Harris, Derozan and Kawhi Leonard after their rookie years.
It won't take much for Frank to become a good NBA player.
Defense is already suffocating, strength and conditioning will obviously improve, and I think he's a better shooter than he showed last season. He's got a good stroke. The whole team just functions better when he's on the court.
A lot of people said he would be a 2 first and then see if he could develop into a point...
He started as a 2 for his French league...
Now you're just making stuff up. The trade for Mudiay and the signing of Burke shoved him over to the 2 spot so he could see the court, so if they actually wanted a 2 guard in the draft, they would have drafted Mitchell.
RE: RE: Maybe you should go re read the draft threads
A lot of people said he would be a 2 first and then see if he could develop into a point...
He started as a 2 for his French league...
Now you're just making stuff up. The trade for Mudiay and the signing of Burke shoved him over to the 2 spot so he could see the court, so if they actually wanted a 2 guard in the draft, they would have drafted Mitchell.
Umm the comparisons on these threads were to Khris middleton...
I for a fact said that he would be better off playing the 2 to start and then move to the 1 as he got more comfortable...
Means free flowing offense there is not one guy who runs the offense...
Question for you? Who is the point guard in the warriors?
Green and Curry share that role, Are you implying that Frank can be Steph Curry, and the Knicks even have a swiss-army-knife talent like Draymond to make that work here? It works in GS, because they have THOSE guys.
Put your money where your mouth is. What do you see as Franks peak, both offensively and defensively. What kind of numbers will he be putting up at age 24-27? How many minutes a game will he be getting? What do you think his peak shooting %s will be?
Means free flowing offense there is not one guy who runs the offense...
Question for you? Who is the point guard in the warriors?
Green and Curry share that role, Are you implying that Frank can be Steph Curry, and the Knicks even have a swiss-army-knife talent like Draymond to make that work here? It works in GS, because they have THOSE guys.
No I was talking about positionless basketball and your post proves my point that you have no idea what you are talking about...
Warriors do not have a point guard, they do not have a shooting guard, they do not have a sml forward, they do not have a power forward and they do not have a center...
Their offense has 5 guys moving without the ball and the ball is always moving, everyone can handle it and everyone can pass it...
was mostly about his fit in the triangle offense, where the point guard doesn't dominate the ball - it played to his strengths. He's always been viewed as more of a combo guard in a modern NBA offense. He can easily play off the ball with a Burke or a Sexton. The guy who's in everybody's way is Timmy, but I digress.
you need the ball in a reliable ball handlers hands. But I agree I like the prospect of maximizing the number of ball handlers on the floor without giving up much on size. Big reason i love SGA but I'm warming up to Sexton as well.
you need the ball in a reliable ball handlers hands. But I agree I like the prospect of maximizing the number of ball handlers on the floor without giving up much on size. Big reason i love SGA but I'm warming up to Sexton as well.
One thing I really like about Sexton he could be a lock down defender...
Him and frank in the back court would be damn good defensively...
you need the ball in a reliable ball handlers hands. But I agree I like the prospect of maximizing the number of ball handlers on the floor without giving up much on size. Big reason i love SGA but I'm warming up to Sexton as well.
One thing I really like about Sexton he could be a lock down defender...
Him and frank in the back court would be damn good defensively...
I think SGA can too, he isnt as explosive but moves better laterally, is 6'6" and has really good hands,
The Magic and Bulls made a mockery of professional basketball
with the way they shamelessly tanked. They wound up with the sixth and seventh picks, respectively. We're at nine. It's really not that big of a difference. Be thankful we actually have draft picks - we'll only get younger and more talented over the next couple of years.
you need the ball in a reliable ball handlers hands. But I agree I like the prospect of maximizing the number of ball handlers on the floor without giving up much on size. Big reason i love SGA but I'm warming up to Sexton as well.
One thing I really like about Sexton he could be a lock down defender...
Him and frank in the back court would be damn good defensively...
I think SGA can too, he isnt as explosive but moves better laterally, is 6'6" and has really good hands,
I have to watch some videos of sga...
You draft one of these guys, have to trade lee for a big or 3/4 type of guy...
but I think Mikal and Frank may wind up being pretty similar, too. Mikal's shooting percentages were worse than Frank's at the same age, and look how far he's come. Sexton and Miles Bridges are a little more complementary to the pieces we already have. Let's face it, whomever we draft is gonna be our second or third best player the second he shakes Adam Silver's hand. We'll fit any of them in.
aren't the best way to judge but this was a good one.
Ideally we have THJR coming off the bench. I'd rather start Burke over THJR and have SGA and FN rotating guarding the wings. Then go after a SF next offseason. Link - ( New Window )
but I think Mikal and Frank may wind up being pretty similar, too. Mikal's shooting percentages were worse than Frank's at the same age, and look how far he's come. Sexton and Miles Bridges are a little more complementary to the pieces we already have. Let's face it, whomever we draft is gonna be our second or third best player the second he shakes Adam Silver's hand. We'll fit any of them in.
I don't think Frank's handle is comparable to SGA's.
I think Frank is going to be a very good 2 way NBA player. He will work hard to become better. His form on his shot is nice, a little long but nice. If Kanter opts out and Knicks are not smart enough to just offer one year deals to fill the cap space, I would consider giving Marcus Smart a deal if you can get him at a reasonable price.
with the way they shamelessly tanked. They wound up with the sixth and seventh picks, respectively. We're at nine. It's really not that big of a difference. Be thankful we actually have draft picks - we'll only get younger and more talented over the next couple of years.
The bulls won a bunch of games when they had Mirotic and Portis healthy and not beating up each other. Mirotic and Portis both had stretches of excellent BBall.
told me the Knicks paid extra close attention to Zhaire Smith towards the end of the season. I wonder if he's this years Mitchell (in terms of helium).
told me the Knicks paid extra close attention to Zhaire Smith towards the end of the season. I wonder if he's this years Mitchell (in terms of helium).
There is a video of him working out last night in chicago, his form looks so ugly, but his shot fell...
told me the Knicks paid extra close attention to Zhaire Smith towards the end of the season. I wonder if he's this years Mitchell (in terms of helium).
There is a video of him working out last night in chicago, his form looks so ugly, but his shot fell...
He gathered from his hip and it was so slow
Meh. Doesn't look bad to me. Can easily be cleaned up. 45% from 3 (limited attempts) but no red flag from me Link - ( New Window )
told me the Knicks paid extra close attention to Zhaire Smith towards the end of the season. I wonder if he's this years Mitchell (in terms of helium).
There is a video of him working out last night in chicago, his form looks so ugly, but his shot fell...
He gathered from his hip and it was so slow
Meh. Doesn't look bad to me. Can easily be cleaned up. 45% from 3 (limited attempts) but no red flag from me Link - ( New Window )
Yeah I just watched some of his videos on YouTube and it doesnt look bad but in his workout it looked weird
and his FT% is OK but still troublesome. Haven't seen him as much as the other guys but if he has a shaky shot and isn't a great ball handler those are certainly red flags on offense.
Zhaire Smith is an excellent defender, too, which the Knicks
ball handling and shooting are the two biggest separators of stars from the rest of the pack (aside from big man, but even that's changing; if you aren't gobert or deandre you need those 2 to enter the elite ranks). Especially for guards. Obviously athletcism matters but there are ton of great athletes. And if you can't shoot you better be an absolute (Greek) Freak. Giannis isn't a non shooter either.
I know what Jerry West said about expecting stars with later picks but these are traits I'd look for at any point in the draft. Ball handling isn't a trait where I see players transform dramatically once youre in the NBA. Kawhi is really the only that I can think that took it to another level. And if you can't handle, you better be like Klay as a shooter. Which is why I can get behind Bridges (who also has a decent enough handle to take advantage of mismatches and get mid range separation).
I don't think they would though - if they're packaging those two picks I'd think they'd want to move higher than nine, unless someone they LOVE happens to drop to us.
It's possible I'm finally burnt out by the negativity surrounding this franchise for the past two decades, or knowing this season will be another dud. Having the 9th pick isn't getting me excited.
Pretty good article comparing Dotson to Josh Richardson...
The premise is that Fizdale will build the kind of system Spoelstra has in Miami, and be drawn to the same kind of athletes. Dotson and Frank fit the bill, Mudiay and Burke do not.
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Damyean Dotson, dubbed the other rookie this year as a result of the limelight given to lottery pick Ntilikina, is the other guy that could fit Fizdales blueprint. There are a lot of similarities between Dotson and Richardson. Both 6-foot-6, both second-rounders picked 44th and 40th, respectively, both spent four years in college and were drafted on their 3-and-D potential. Dotson (38 percent, 6.9 rebounds, 1.1 assists) shot better than Richardson (32 percent, 4.5 rebounds, 3.6 assists) from three over their college careers, and was an elite rebounder for a guard, whilst Richardson had the edge as a passerbut both were clearly 3-and-D archetypes, nonetheless.
Random article I know, but I'm a believer in Dotson and hope he doesn't get buried. KnicksWall - ( New Window )
RE: This off-season is lacking some steam for me...
It's possible I'm finally burnt out by the negativity surrounding this franchise for the past two decades, or knowing this season will be another dud. Having the 9th pick isn't getting me excited.
Funny since this is the most optimism for the future in a long time...
Knicks actually are not dysfunctional ok neal and actually operating like a real franchise
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Trae Young measured a quarter-inch under 62, 177.8 lbs. Roughly Chris Paul size, wingspan about 1.25 inches shorter at 6-3.
to move up in next years lottery. I kind of like this new Knicks NBA. You know before the season starts they have no chance, no hope and will be in the lottery mix. With the new rules next year they only need to be one of the 3 worst teams to have an equal chance to win the Lottery trophy. Is next year over yet?
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[quote] But he is telling people he is not sure if he is going to come out...
Interestingly enough kp is working out with real madrid...
Highly doubtful Knicks could get that high unless they have up multiple first round picks [/quote
How much is he making from Real Madrid? Id much rather be living in Madrid than Sacramento. What are the rules if hes drafted but refuses to play? Can he wait it out to become a UFA in a few years?
Trae Young has bust written all over to me. Ill be furious if the Knicks draft him.
.. he likely said good looking prospects and we will explore everyone in this class
Then he and other nyg scouts SCOUTED those players, titans / bears moved up and BBI got the vapors.
Not buying it - when you get jumped TWICE like they did - it's because you were talking too much, which Reese was. You do know even making a comment like "good looking prospects" is pure speculation, but the getting jumped twice is fact.
Dude, teams are jumping ahead because they aren't stupid. They don't know anything for a fact just like any of the so called insiders don't know anything for a fact. Teams aren't dense, they see the players that are rated where they are and they see the teams in need for that player and they pounce. Even if the Titans HEARD from a reliable source (horse shit) that the Giants DIDN'T like that player, they would be nuts not to move up.
Whatever gets you through the night. Just remember the best trade in NYG history was made on the basis that EVERYONE knew Ernie loved Eli. How'd that work out?
Doesn't matter. I don't care about this loose lips crap. I think that along with the not tanking horse crap are not what is wrong with this franchise.
Philly needed 6 fucking years to hit on two picks. If you're bad, fine, be bad...but to sit here and blast a team because the 7 players that played actually played hard and well? That's shit.
Anyone else see the video of the Kings front office going nuts with the lottery results? I get it that they jumped up 5 spots but they were acting like they won the championship. This is a team that has picked in the top 10 for the last 10 years and dont even own their pick next year.
Anyone else see the video of the Kings front office going nuts with the lottery results? I get it that they jumped up 5 spots but they were acting like they won the championship. This is a team that has picked in the top 10 for the last 10 years and dont even own their pick next year.
Not talking high on the Kings but it's their highest pick in 40 years. They picked 5 or 4 in the past decade (cousins and evans). There's no main piece there and they have a lot of players that can be solid role players/starters, they're just too dumb to package them for a bigger fish.
We need somebody who can create with his own shot, not someone
who can hit open three's or slam home lobs. I don't think the ability to create is something you can develop. It's nice to dream about having a 3-and-D guy who may be able to develop an offensive game, but that rarely happens. And it would be laughable if that's what the Knicks target. It'd be like looking for Ariza before you even have Harden or Paul.
Porter/Sexton/Young, in that order for me.
Porter Jr. seems like it would be a home run swing, which is what we
Was a likely top 3 pick if he had been healthy last season.
Can't you say the same thing about Skal a couple of years ago? Or like Cliff Alexander? Or even Jahlil Okafor. Okafor was considered a better prospect going into HS than KAT was.
Was a likely top 3 pick if he had been healthy last season.
Can't you say the same thing about Skal a couple of years ago? Or like Cliff Alexander? Or even Jahlil Okafor. Okafor was considered a better prospect going into HS than KAT was.
Was a likely top 3 pick if he had been healthy last season.
Can't you say the same thing about Skal a couple of years ago? Or like Cliff Alexander? Or even Jahlil Okafor. Okafor was considered a better prospect going into HS than KAT was.
Was health the ONLY reason MPJ struggled?
He played 2 games
2.5, and he came off the bench as a precaution, I'm guessing
Was a likely top 3 pick if he had been healthy last season.
Can't you say the same thing about Skal a couple of years ago? Or like Cliff Alexander? Or even Jahlil Okafor. Okafor was considered a better prospect going into HS than KAT was.
Was health the ONLY reason MPJ struggled?
None of those guys had health issues. And none of those guys could shoot 3s, are all were centers that can't defend the rim.
Was a likely top 3 pick if he had been healthy last season.
Can't you say the same thing about Skal a couple of years ago? Or like Cliff Alexander? Or even Jahlil Okafor. Okafor was considered a better prospect going into HS than KAT was.
Was health the ONLY reason MPJ struggled?
None of those guys had health issues. And none of those guys could shoot 3s, are all were centers that can't defend the rim.
Fair. Interestingly enough, I think I've seen some comparisons to Gallinari with Porter Jr.
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With our luck? Please God.....🙏
You never have anything nice to say.
With our luck? Please God.....🙏
Knicks are getting either 1 to 3 or 9 or 10...
No other possibilities
Just earlier today, I called T-Bone a great guy and poster.
But you were probably looking at Jacoby Brissett highlights....
Not a fix when anyone else gets lucky. Just the Knicks.
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9th overall.
With our luck? Please God.....🙏
Knicks are getting either 1 to 3 or 9 or 10...
No other possibilities
So 10th...
Would put the bow tie on this troll job
If there's a way to drop, the Knicks will drop.
Just earlier today, I called T-Bone a great guy and poster.
But you were probably looking at Jacoby Brissett highlights....
Lol. Brissett is still my man🤔
Knicks are getting either 1 to 3 or 9 or 10...
No other possibilities
What about Knicks history suggests to you they have a shot in hell of picks 1 to 3?
It's far more likely they drop a spot. It's their destiny.
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9th overall.
With our luck? Please God.....🙏
Knicks are getting either 1 to 3 or 9 or 10...
No other possibilities
Couldn't they theoretically drop as low as 12 if all three of the teams that land in the top three come from behind them?
If you finish low 10 3 straight years but the ball falls to #1 3 straight years you can turn around with a great young team while 3 straight years of the worst record and draw the 9/10 spot 3 straight years you could be in the dumpster another 5 years +.
2nd-2.0%
3rd- 2.4%
9th-81.3%
10th-12.2%
11th-0.4%
12th- 0.002%
The Knicks are really due for some good luck. If they end up 12th after that season with those odds, just shut it down....
2nd-2.0%
3rd- 2.4%
9th-81.3%
10th-12.2%
11th-0.4%
12th- 0.002%
The Knicks are really due for some good luck. If they end up 12th after that season with those odds, just shut it down....
If they end up 12 I dont know what I would do
Ethan Hawke apparently used to get comped tickets from Dolan until he complained about D'Antoni being fired on The Tonight Show.
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If Porter somehow drops and his medicals clear, I would be all over him. I could see him being the best player in this draft. A rare talent.
I know its unlikely on both sides, but I would be open to trading the 9th for the Clippers 12th and 13th picks. The Knicks badly need an influx of talent on the roster.
If Porter somehow drops and his medicals clear, I would be all over him. I could see him being the best player in this draft. A rare talent.
I know its unlikely on both sides, but I would be open to trading the 9th for the Clippers 12th and 13th picks. The Knicks badly need an influx of talent on the roster.
They need star talent, not just more talent. But by the same token, getting 2 picks gives you 2 shots as opposed to 1. Historically I wouldn't imagine the "star" rate of players picked at 9 is significantly higher than at 12, so that's a trade I would certainly do but doubt LAC would do.
That said, they need to tank it up next season if KP is out until January. Just go all in on losing.
Im still excited with the players that should be available at 9. At least they didnt move down...
And how about Boston projecting to have 4 1st round picks next year? Man o man do the rich get richer. The sixers also should get a really good player in this draft along with max cap space.
If you finish low 10 3 straight years but the ball falls to #1 3 straight years you can turn around with a great young team while 3 straight years of the worst record and draw the 9/10 spot 3 straight years you could be in the dumpster another 5 years +.
Post lottery: I REST MY CASE.
The Knicks ALWAYS win meaningless games at the end of seasons.
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I just read the Knicks won 5 of their last 13 games. I didnt even realize that.
The Knicks ALWAYS win meaningless games at the end of seasons.
They are not meaningless. They mean that Knicks pick a few spots lower and miss out on guys like Steph Curry
No they lost steph curry because donnie Walsh couldn't keep his mouth shut
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Didnt they lose the chance to draft Curry the same way by winning a few meaningless games the last week of the season?
No they lost steph curry because donnie Walsh couldn't keep his mouth shut
Right... because Golden State was going to take Jordan Hill? They lost out on Steph Curry because the Warriors picked before them.
As for this year - think the pick will either be Bridges from Nova or Sexton. If it's Sexton, that's an admission that Ntilkina was a bust pick. It will be funny to see how some hear "spin it" when they claim Ntilkina would make a "solid, defensive minded 2 guard" when they kid is a 35% shooter. Sjhould NEVER had let Phil make that pick, and the fire him a few days later.
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Didnt they lose the chance to draft Curry the same way by winning a few meaningless games the last week of the season?
No they lost steph curry because donnie Walsh couldn't keep his mouth shut
Yep - same thing with Reese when he openly pined for Conklin and Floyd, and git jumped twice by the Titans and Bears, and ended up with the "bad apple"
Then he and other nyg scouts SCOUTED those players, titans / bears moved up and BBI got the vapors.
For me it is young or sexton...
As for this year - think the pick will either be Bridges from Nova or Sexton. If it's Sexton, that's an admission that Ntilkina was a bust pick. It will be funny to see how some hear "spin it" when they claim Ntilkina would make a "solid, defensive minded 2 guard" when they kid is a 35% shooter. Sjhould NEVER had let Phil make that pick, and the fire him a few days later.
How would Sexton be an admission that Frank was a mistake? An NBA roster starts 2 guards, and some teams run 3 for stretches. And Frank is long enough to play the 3 too.
I swear, some people on here just bash the Knicks now without watching. Things aren't going fantastic but theres a bunch of teams worse off now.
Making definitive statements after a rookie season never usually turns out well. It's not lke Frank was unplayable.
I think you're going to get different answers. I don't want Sexton or Young. I'd be fine with any of the SFs - Porter, Bridgi, Knox.
Young, Bagley, Carter
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...because they won meaningless games at the end of those seasons. I know people tend to overlook that and claim it wasn't meant to be, but when you end with Gallinari and Hill - well you can see how those meaningless wins can change the course of a franchise.
As for this year - think the pick will either be Bridges from Nova or Sexton. If it's Sexton, that's an admission that Ntilkina was a bust pick. It will be funny to see how some hear "spin it" when they claim Ntilkina would make a "solid, defensive minded 2 guard" when they kid is a 35% shooter. Sjhould NEVER had let Phil make that pick, and the fire him a few days later.
How would Sexton be an admission that Frank was a mistake? An NBA roster starts 2 guards, and some teams run 3 for stretches. And Frank is long enough to play the 3 too.
I swear, some people on here just bash the Knicks now without watching. Things aren't going fantastic but theres a bunch of teams worse off now.
Making definitive statements after a rookie season never usually turns out well. It's not lke Frank was unplayable.
Not to mention fizdale already said he is a positionless coach
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which of the possible picks do we NOT want?
Young, Bagley, Carter
Why do we not want Bagley or Carter?
It feels like every season that we are losing a draft slot or two in the last game alone. You could call it pride but i'm pretty sure your franchise has to not be a joke to substantiate that claim. It's just stupidity.
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which of the possible picks do we NOT want?
Why do we not want Bagley or Carter?
Few reasons.
First, I'm afraid of drafting players that can be played off the floor in certain situations. Bagley had severe issues with defensive awareness. He is not a rim protector and is skinny. He *should* have the tools to be a good one on one defender, but it's not like he's a surefire offensive star. He has a shaky shot and no post game, he relied on athleticism, he was a bona fide scrapper. His FT% has me worried his shot isn't directly transferable. Carter I am less worried about, but I think he can be forced to the bench in small ball lineups. KP has issues on switches himself, introducing 2 guys have me worried.
Second, center are easy to come buy in the NBA through FA. It's the most saturated position in the NBA. Randle is a FA who I'd target if Kanter opts out. There's also guys like Deandre Jordan. Cousins who might be a top 20-25 player in the league may have no interest and could potentially be picked up at good value. It's just every it seems teams knock center out of the park. If I'm rolling the dice on a 5 I want a surefire defensive stud. I'd be fine with Bamba. Gobert can survive small ball lineups because no one can score on him. Bagley and Carter don't strike me as those types.
I said this on the other thread, I'd rather trade #9 for Bobby Portis + than take either of those 2 guys. Not that I don't think they'll be busts, but Portis is already an offensive stud that gives you spacing, passing, and rebounding. Chicago would do that too. Why risk it on an unknown when you can proven 5s at a discount in the NBA?
Then he and other nyg scouts SCOUTED those players, titans / bears moved up and BBI got the vapors.
Not buying it - when you get jumped TWICE like they did - it's because you were talking too much, which Reese was. You do know even making a comment like "good looking prospects" is pure speculation, but the getting jumped twice is fact.
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...because they won meaningless games at the end of those seasons. I know people tend to overlook that and claim it wasn't meant to be, but when you end with Gallinari and Hill - well you can see how those meaningless wins can change the course of a franchise.
As for this year - think the pick will either be Bridges from Nova or Sexton. If it's Sexton, that's an admission that Ntilkina was a bust pick. It will be funny to see how some hear "spin it" when they claim Ntilkina would make a "solid, defensive minded 2 guard" when they kid is a 35% shooter. Sjhould NEVER had let Phil make that pick, and the fire him a few days later.
How would Sexton be an admission that Frank was a mistake? An NBA roster starts 2 guards, and some teams run 3 for stretches. And Frank is long enough to play the 3 too.
I swear, some people on here just bash the Knicks now without watching. Things aren't going fantastic but theres a bunch of teams worse off now.
Making definitive statements after a rookie season never usually turns out well. It's not lke Frank was unplayable.
So Frank is now a 2-guard, or maybe even a 3? really? Is that how you will rationalize this. He's 6'5 - too small to play the 3, and he doesn't shoot well enough to play the 2. It's Knicks fan like you who have spent the last 18 years acting like this team has a plan. Yea, "let's just move" Frank to the 2 or 3, as if that as the plan all along? The guy who drafted him got canned a week later, but that was the "plan"
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...because they won meaningless games at the end of those seasons. I know people tend to overlook that and claim it wasn't meant to be, but when you end with Gallinari and Hill - well you can see how those meaningless wins can change the course of a franchise.
As for this year - think the pick will either be Bridges from Nova or Sexton. If it's Sexton, that's an admission that Ntilkina was a bust pick. It will be funny to see how some hear "spin it" when they claim Ntilkina would make a "solid, defensive minded 2 guard" when they kid is a 35% shooter. Sjhould NEVER had let Phil make that pick, and the fire him a few days later.
How would Sexton be an admission that Frank was a mistake? An NBA roster starts 2 guards, and some teams run 3 for stretches. And Frank is long enough to play the 3 too.
I swear, some people on here just bash the Knicks now without watching. Things aren't going fantastic but theres a bunch of teams worse off now.
Making definitive statements after a rookie season never usually turns out well. It's not lke Frank was unplayable.
Not to mention fizdale already said he is a positionless coach
Positionless = "we know he' isn;t a PG, so let's act like we knew all along he could play the 2 or the 3, and act like that was the plan all along. Some Knick fans are so stupid, they spin everything this dysfunctional franchise does
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So Frank is now a 2-guard, or maybe even a 3? really? Is that how you will rationalize this. He's 6'5 - too small to play the 3, and he doesn't shoot well enough to play the 2. It's Knicks fan like you who have spent the last 18 years acting like this team has a plan. Yea, "let's just move" Frank to the 2 or 3, as if that as the plan all along? The guy who drafted him got canned a week later, but that was the "plan"
I thought Frank was a 2 guard from the beginning. So being a good passer now hurts you as a 2 guard?
And his shooting is final I guess. He will remain a 32% shooter for his career and never improve? KP was on fire to start his career? How about guys like Garry Harris and Derozan?
All Im saying is he was the youngest player in the league last year or one of them. He is already showing promise as a defender. His passing is a major plus as a 2 guard. If he gets to even 36% shooting from 3 I think he's a long time starting 2 guard in the NBA. Or can we not expect for any improvement?
He started as a 2 for his French league...
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...because they won meaningless games at the end of those seasons. I know people tend to overlook that and claim it wasn't meant to be, but when you end with Gallinari and Hill - well you can see how those meaningless wins can change the course of a franchise.
As for this year - think the pick will either be Bridges from Nova or Sexton. If it's Sexton, that's an admission that Ntilkina was a bust pick. It will be funny to see how some hear "spin it" when they claim Ntilkina would make a "solid, defensive minded 2 guard" when they kid is a 35% shooter. Sjhould NEVER had let Phil make that pick, and the fire him a few days later.
How would Sexton be an admission that Frank was a mistake? An NBA roster starts 2 guards, and some teams run 3 for stretches. And Frank is long enough to play the 3 too.
I swear, some people on here just bash the Knicks now without watching. Things aren't going fantastic but theres a bunch of teams worse off now.
Making definitive statements after a rookie season never usually turns out well. It's not lke Frank was unplayable.
Not to mention fizdale already said he is a positionless coach
Positionless = "we know he' isn;t a PG, so let's act like we knew all along he could play the 2 or the 3, and act like that was the plan all along. Some Knick fans are so stupid, they spin everything this dysfunctional franchise does
No, positionless = versatile. That was always park of Frank's appeal. The only question is where does he fit in offensively, but even that's becoming less relevant in the NBA.
Question for you? Who is the point guard in the warriors?
If Frank was 21-22 and was struggling to see 20 minutes a game like DJ Wilson or Justin Jackson or Tyler lydon I'd be worried.
Frank was an undersized 19 year old coming from overseas. He has shown some very positive aspects, has shown flashes off offensive skill. Consistency is his next step. He is going to get better. Just like Lonzo Ball will. People love to shit on guys way too early. I wonder what your early thoughts were on Gary Harris, Derozan and Kawhi Leonard after their rookie years.
He started as a 2 for his French league...
Now you're just making stuff up. The trade for Mudiay and the signing of Burke shoved him over to the 2 spot so he could see the court, so if they actually wanted a 2 guard in the draft, they would have drafted Mitchell.
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A lot of people said he would be a 2 first and then see if he could develop into a point...
He started as a 2 for his French league...
Now you're just making stuff up. The trade for Mudiay and the signing of Burke shoved him over to the 2 spot so he could see the court, so if they actually wanted a 2 guard in the draft, they would have drafted Mitchell.
Umm the comparisons on these threads were to Khris middleton...
I for a fact said that he would be better off playing the 2 to start and then move to the 1 as he got more comfortable...
The only person making shit up is you...
Question for you? Who is the point guard in the warriors?
Green and Curry share that role, Are you implying that Frank can be Steph Curry, and the Knicks even have a swiss-army-knife talent like Draymond to make that work here? It works in GS, because they have THOSE guys.
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Means free flowing offense there is not one guy who runs the offense...
Question for you? Who is the point guard in the warriors?
Green and Curry share that role, Are you implying that Frank can be Steph Curry, and the Knicks even have a swiss-army-knife talent like Draymond to make that work here? It works in GS, because they have THOSE guys.
No I was talking about positionless basketball and your post proves my point that you have no idea what you are talking about...
Warriors do not have a point guard, they do not have a shooting guard, they do not have a sml forward, they do not have a power forward and they do not have a center...
Their offense has 5 guys moving without the ball and the ball is always moving, everyone can handle it and everyone can pass it...
That is what fizdale wants to build here..
I think Sexton in that scenario, is a better handler, much better first step and can penetrate better as a result.
In that scenario I would start shifting Frank to the 3 and starting Burke at the point lol. Out of the box but I think it could work.
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And the Knicks start Sexton and frank in the same back court, who is the po int guard?
I think Sexton in that scenario, is a better handler, much better first step and can penetrate better as a result.
In that scenario I would start shifting Frank to the 3 and starting Burke at the point lol. Out of the box but I think it could work.
My point was neither are the point guard, because they would be interchangeable offensively
One thing I really like about Sexton he could be a lock down defender...
Him and frank in the back court would be damn good defensively...
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I just read the Knicks won 5 of their last 13 games. I didnt even realize that.
The Knicks ALWAYS win meaningless games at the end of seasons.
They are not meaningless. They mean that Knicks pick a few spots lower and miss out on guys like Steph Curry
That's my point! They are meaningless once the Knicks are eliminated form the playoffs and obviously they adversely affect the odds in the lottery.
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you need the ball in a reliable ball handlers hands. But I agree I like the prospect of maximizing the number of ball handlers on the floor without giving up much on size. Big reason i love SGA but I'm warming up to Sexton as well.
One thing I really like about Sexton he could be a lock down defender...
Him and frank in the back court would be damn good defensively...
I think SGA can too, he isnt as explosive but moves better laterally, is 6'6" and has really good hands,
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you need the ball in a reliable ball handlers hands. But I agree I like the prospect of maximizing the number of ball handlers on the floor without giving up much on size. Big reason i love SGA but I'm warming up to Sexton as well.
One thing I really like about Sexton he could be a lock down defender...
Him and frank in the back court would be damn good defensively...
I think SGA can too, he isnt as explosive but moves better laterally, is 6'6" and has really good hands,
I have to watch some videos of sga...
You draft one of these guys, have to trade lee for a big or 3/4 type of guy...
If Kanter opted out and Knicks signed randle...
Sga or Sexton
Frank
Hardaway
Randle
Kp
I could get behind that starting 5...
Ideally we have THJR coming off the bench. I'd rather start Burke over THJR and have SGA and FN rotating guarding the wings. Then go after a SF next offseason.
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I don't think Frank's handle is comparable to SGA's.
1. Frank Ntilikina: 0.66
2. Chris Paul: 0.69
3. Victor Oladipo: 0.69
4. Jrue Holiday: 0.70
5. Jaylen Brown: 0.71http://bit.ly/hwkx143
1. Frank Ntilikina: 0.66
2. Chris Paul: 0.69
3. Victor Oladipo: 0.69
4. Jrue Holiday: 0.70
5. Jaylen Brown: 0.71http://bit.ly/hwkx143
I have no idea what this stat is, but its completely worthless if its saying Frank has a better handle or runs a better PNR than CP3.
Frank needs to make significant improvements in ball handling and finishing.
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Top PnR Ball-Handler Defenders by PPP (min 150poss):
1. Frank Ntilikina: 0.66
2. Chris Paul: 0.69
3. Victor Oladipo: 0.69
4. Jrue Holiday: 0.70
5. Jaylen Brown: 0.71http://bit.ly/hwkx143
I have no idea what this stat is, but its completely worthless if its saying Frank has a better handle or runs a better PNR than CP3.
Frank needs to make significant improvements in ball handling and finishing.
Im not sure either but doesnt it also say defenders?
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Top PnR Ball-Handler Defenders by PPP (min 150poss):
1. Frank Ntilikina: 0.66
2. Chris Paul: 0.69
3. Victor Oladipo: 0.69
4. Jrue Holiday: 0.70
5. Jaylen Brown: 0.71http://bit.ly/hwkx143
I have no idea what this stat is, but its completely worthless if its saying Frank has a better handle or runs a better PNR than CP3.
Frank needs to make significant improvements in ball handling and finishing.
It is a defensive stat
Wonder how much power they are giving him
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Wonder how much power they are giving him
Bucks do not have much flexibility after Kidd blew up their cap sheet. Not many decisions to make.
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Wonder how much power they are giving him
Bucks do not have much flexibility after Kidd blew up their cap sheet. Not many decisions to make.
The ok only reason I asked, was because in atlanta it blew up when they took away his GM respinsibilities
The bulls won a bunch of games when they had Mirotic and Portis healthy and not beating up each other. Mirotic and Portis both had stretches of excellent BBall.
There is a video of him working out last night in chicago, his form looks so ugly, but his shot fell...
He gathered from his hip and it was so slow
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told me the Knicks paid extra close attention to Zhaire Smith towards the end of the season. I wonder if he's this years Mitchell (in terms of helium).
There is a video of him working out last night in chicago, his form looks so ugly, but his shot fell...
He gathered from his hip and it was so slow
Meh. Doesn't look bad to me. Can easily be cleaned up. 45% from 3 (limited attempts) but no red flag from me
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told me the Knicks paid extra close attention to Zhaire Smith towards the end of the season. I wonder if he's this years Mitchell (in terms of helium).
There is a video of him working out last night in chicago, his form looks so ugly, but his shot fell...
He gathered from his hip and it was so slow
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Yeah I just watched some of his videos on YouTube and it doesnt look bad but in his workout it looked weird
I know what Jerry West said about expecting stars with later picks but these are traits I'd look for at any point in the draft. Ball handling isn't a trait where I see players transform dramatically once youre in the NBA. Kawhi is really the only that I can think that took it to another level. And if you can't handle, you better be like Klay as a shooter. Which is why I can get behind Bridges (who also has a decent enough handle to take advantage of mismatches and get mid range separation).
Don't know about those 2 specifically but I'd hands down do that deal.
Random article I know, but I'm a believer in Dotson and hope he doesn't get buried.
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Funny since this is the most optimism for the future in a long time...
Knicks actually are not dysfunctional ok neal and actually operating like a real franchise
Interestingly enough kp is working out with real madrid...
Highly doubtful Knicks could get that high unless they have up multiple first round picks
Interestingly enough kp is working out with real madrid...
Highly doubtful Knicks could get that high unless they have up multiple first round picks
But it's certainly plausible he withdraws from this year's draft.
He is just very intriguing to me and Kentucky prospects never get to show their full arsenal...
Measured 6 foot 7 6 foot 10 wingspan..
He was 240 his freshman year
Measured 6 foot 7 6 foot 10 wingspan..
He was 240 his freshman year
He is my Bridges of choice
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Trae Young measured a quarter-inch under 62, 177.8 lbs. Roughly Chris Paul size, wingspan about 1.25 inches shorter at 6-3.
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Is down to 220 with 5 percent body fat..
Measured 6 foot 7 6 foot 10 wingspan..
He was 240 his freshman year
He is my Bridges of choice
Mine to, I like mikal but I feel miles has superstar potential...
I wanted him last year before he pulled out..
[quote] But he is telling people he is not sure if he is going to come out...
Interestingly enough kp is working out with real madrid...
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How much is he making from Real Madrid? Id much rather be living in Madrid than Sacramento. What are the rules if hes drafted but refuses to play? Can he wait it out to become a UFA in a few years?
Trae Young has bust written all over to me. Ill be furious if the Knicks draft him.
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.. he likely said good looking prospects and we will explore everyone in this class
Then he and other nyg scouts SCOUTED those players, titans / bears moved up and BBI got the vapors.
Not buying it - when you get jumped TWICE like they did - it's because you were talking too much, which Reese was. You do know even making a comment like "good looking prospects" is pure speculation, but the getting jumped twice is fact.
Dude, teams are jumping ahead because they aren't stupid. They don't know anything for a fact just like any of the so called insiders don't know anything for a fact. Teams aren't dense, they see the players that are rated where they are and they see the teams in need for that player and they pounce. Even if the Titans HEARD from a reliable source (horse shit) that the Giants DIDN'T like that player, they would be nuts not to move up.
Whatever gets you through the night. Just remember the best trade in NYG history was made on the basis that EVERYONE knew Ernie loved Eli. How'd that work out?
Doesn't matter. I don't care about this loose lips crap. I think that along with the not tanking horse crap are not what is wrong with this franchise.
Philly needed 6 fucking years to hit on two picks. If you're bad, fine, be bad...but to sit here and blast a team because the 7 players that played actually played hard and well? That's shit.
17 or 10 years ago means nothing to me. You should try that out.
Superstar is to strong...
I see Draymond type with a little less defense and a little more offense, that versatile player
Not talking high on the Kings but it's their highest pick in 40 years. They picked 5 or 4 in the past decade (cousins and evans). There's no main piece there and they have a lot of players that can be solid role players/starters, they're just too dumb to package them for a bigger fish.
Porter/Sexton/Young, in that order for me.
Can't you say the same thing about Skal a couple of years ago? Or like Cliff Alexander? Or even Jahlil Okafor. Okafor was considered a better prospect going into HS than KAT was.
Was health the ONLY reason MPJ struggled?
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Was a likely top 3 pick if he had been healthy last season.
Can't you say the same thing about Skal a couple of years ago? Or like Cliff Alexander? Or even Jahlil Okafor. Okafor was considered a better prospect going into HS than KAT was.
Was health the ONLY reason MPJ struggled?
He played 2 games
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Was a likely top 3 pick if he had been healthy last season.
Can't you say the same thing about Skal a couple of years ago? Or like Cliff Alexander? Or even Jahlil Okafor. Okafor was considered a better prospect going into HS than KAT was.
Was health the ONLY reason MPJ struggled?
He played 2 games
2.5, and he came off the bench as a precaution, I'm guessing
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Was a likely top 3 pick if he had been healthy last season.
Can't you say the same thing about Skal a couple of years ago? Or like Cliff Alexander? Or even Jahlil Okafor. Okafor was considered a better prospect going into HS than KAT was.
Was health the ONLY reason MPJ struggled?
None of those guys had health issues. And none of those guys could shoot 3s, are all were centers that can't defend the rim.
The Post said today that Chicago may be in love with Mikal Bridges
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Was a likely top 3 pick if he had been healthy last season.
Can't you say the same thing about Skal a couple of years ago? Or like Cliff Alexander? Or even Jahlil Okafor. Okafor was considered a better prospect going into HS than KAT was.
Was health the ONLY reason MPJ struggled?
None of those guys had health issues. And none of those guys could shoot 3s, are all were centers that can't defend the rim.
Fair. Interestingly enough, I think I've seen some comparisons to Gallinari with Porter Jr.
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The Post said today that Chicago may be in love with Mikal Bridges
I think the Knicks will end up with Mikal Bridges when all is said and done.
They are right in the middle of where all the centers should go and we already know all of their decisions are made based on gasol..
He is not going to workout at the combine and my guess he only does individuals...
Teams may side with guys they have seen play recently rather than the guy who they haven't seen..
I love gallinari coming out, what hurt him was the injuries...
Knicks get a gallo type at 9 I am good
That would be a dumb move and Jerry West usually makes smart ones.
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That would be a dumb move and Jerry West usually makes smart ones.
Problem for clippers is they are hard capped, they might want to consolidate the 1striund picks
Because they're the Knicks and they have the reverse Midas touch.
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Do you think Ayton or Doncic can be a KP level talent? Or do you think KP will face injury issues? Personally I keep KP.
Do you offer that for Kawhi if your phoenix? Maybe Josh Jackson too.
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1,16, 31 for kp, do you do it?
Do you think Ayton or Doncic can be a KP level talent? Or do you think KP will face injury issues? Personally I keep KP.
Do you offer that for Kawhi if your phoenix? Maybe Josh Jackson too.
Me personally before I give kp a max contract I try to see what at least is out there
With KP coming off an injury and staring down a big contract, I might take just #1 for him....
But if you're the owner of a top 5 selection,you won't know that.
KP for basically Ayton, Lonnie Walker, and Jalen Brunson (my picks)? I'd have to pull the trigger.
No I dont. KP has shown ability to be 2 way superstar. Unique rare talent.