Gents and Gentettes,
This is preliminary but on my draft sheet on dropbox I added a tab called "Lineup Changes" and it should be the default view at the link below.
That said, I thought it would be interesting to line up the opening day starters per NFL.COM's game book from the opener last year to what we MAY line up like this year. Where I had issues:
1- Projecting LOLB - I went with Lorenzo Carter over Kareem Martin but that is a stretch, I may change to Martin.
2- Projecting sides of who plays where, I kept D. Tomlinson at the same lineup slot but on a different side and I don't know which OLBs will be on which side.
3- The starting lineup on O listed two TEs but in reality Engram is a WR so I changed out Shane Smith for Rhett Ellison.
4- Projecting who will improve based on last year, I have Engram being better with a year under his belt, same for Dalvin Tomlinson.
Overall this is a very rosy projection but I would like some input here on what you goons think. I think some are givens, such as Solder at LT, Flowers at RT over Hart, Ogletree over Kennard and clearly Barkley and Beckham better options than Perkins and Marshall.
Hernandez outperforming a vet is a maybe though, as is projecting Omameh to be better than Jerry which I do actually think he is. Curious for thoughts, input, insults, musings, opinions, qualitative analyses, quantitative analyses and random terrible ideas. Fire away.
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But that would never happen on a Coughlin coached team
I would put a + next to his name.
Flowers, Apple and Thompson, 2 of which 1st round picks, all considered to be starters/core players getting one last chance.
I'm interested to see what lower half of the roster guys can do this summer. There are major opportunities in the secondary and along the oline.
I'm not sure if Omameh is an upgrade from Fluker
Shane Smith wasn't a starter last year
I'm not sure if Omameh is an upgrade from Fluker
Shane Smith wasn't a starter last year
I am equal to richburg because he never fucking played. jones held his own plenty when in there last year...
so jones=jones
omameh may not be a huge upgrade to fluker i agree but lets not act like fluker was a stud at OG. he was a castoff and had been disappointing with SD. he came here as we took a chance on him and he was servicable....thats about it though.
he mentioned smith wasnt a starter but he went with a two TE set.
in his defense we should see alot of two TE sets but with engram split out wide
There might be a way to run with:
Martin/Carter/Ogletree/Vernon
As, whereas Carter's not the thumper, OK, fine, he probably represents a great improvement over goodson in terms of pass defending, chase function and switch to edge rusher/blitz function.
And, we have strong DTS Tomlinson, Hill and have Harrison, to keep semi-skinny carter and smallish ogletree clean.
Not to relegate the DTS back to two gapping, not going to happen. I just think they make plays on the ball while rushing interior gaps which should do the trick.
Lineup increase team speed on D.
I'd go with a = there, which is still a compliment to Hernandez given he's never played a snap in the NFL.
Whereas with Martin and Carter, Martin has 30lbs on goodson and Carter is much faster than goodson.
Maybe when they go with the 'front 3 light ' (mauro mackintosh) types you put goodson back in to run blitz interior gaps, but your loosing speed over the middle unless you have Carter at olb pass d which negates his blitz function.
Never liked Pugh as guard, liked Pugh as tackle given our then supply.
Engram in 2nd year, Shepard in 3rd year have more experience.
Solder > Flowers
Hernandez > Pugh
Jones > Richburg
Omameh > Jerry
Wheeler > Hart
This line is way better than last years line. Pugh should have been our RT last year from day 1. But we had no guards. Jones is more physical than Richburg.
i think if hernandez is as advertised, we made the left side of the line into a really formidable piece of the offense.
as above mentioned, barkley alone will allow the OL to look better plus overall he allows us to run the ball and control the clock if needed. the offense was so one dimensional for so long, now having a legit run threat is HUGE
Defensively, our secondary seems thin and though I think better overall, FS still is a major weakness.
Dline, we have BJ Hill listed here but I am not sure he gets the nod. We shall see. LB with Carter is an upgrade over Casillias. That dude was not healthy and was a liability physically. I will take mistakes and rookie lapses with the chance for some bigtime plays and possible game changing effects.
Never liked Pugh as guard, liked Pugh as tackle given our then supply.
Pugh is always injured. Got to think that Hernandez will start more than Pugh did.
I'm not sure if Omameh is an upgrade from Fluker
Shane Smith wasn't a starter last year
I wish we were able to Keep Richburg (Healthy?). Jones is great but more than once I saw him getting bull rushed into either the running back or Eli.
ol has brand new line none of your proposed starters started for giants last year and defense going from 4-3 to a 3-4 has to be proved to be better
I hope you are right but I am more cautious
I'm not sure if Omameh is an upgrade from Fluker
Shane Smith wasn't a starter last year
Yes Jones is not equal to Richbrg, he stays on the field. +
Fluker is grossly overrated on BBI. Strong? Yes. Mobile no.
Rhett Ellison is the TE. He is decent blocker and good receiver..don't see where Shane Smith fits.
I'm not sure if Omameh is an upgrade from Fluker
Shane Smith wasn't a starter last year
Shane Smith is a fullback.
They just drafted a franchise RB indicating a significant commitment to a run game. They'll certainly have use for a fullback at some point.
I think that pretty well covers all the options... lol
Comments from SY'56 from another thread on our defensive personnel below in case you didn't see his take.
There are always more options
Sy'56 : 10:09 am : link : reply
with the front seven in a 3-4...little more difficult for an offense to plan for. However the right kind of personnel is needed, there are more potential holes for the offense to exploit.
If the DC is smart enough and the key components are there, it is a positive move. I am confident one half of that is present. The personnel, there is a lot of wishful thinking in my opinion. The lack of edge presence, lack of a true FS, and durability questions with Goodson would have me worried. And we haven't mentioned the potential mess at CB.
In comment 13964674 AdamBrag said:
I'm not sure if Omameh is an upgrade from Fluker
Shane Smith wasn't a starter last year