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gidiefor : Mod : 5/15/2018 6:20 pm
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Lions claim Bisnowaty that is  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/15/2018 6:23 pm : link
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Giants' roster  
PEEJ : 5/15/2018 6:47 pm : link
is so strong, other teams are picking up their castoffs. :)
RE: Lions claim Bisnowaty that is  
Gman11 : 5/15/2018 7:04 pm : link
In comment 13964841 gidiefor said:
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Are they that desperate?
Good  
AcidTest : 5/15/2018 7:09 pm : link
luck to Adam. Best wishes.
RE: Giants' roster  
giantsFC : 5/16/2018 12:22 am : link
In comment 13964848 PEEJ said:
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is so strong, other teams are picking up their castoffs. :)

Lolz
RE: RE: Lions claim Bisnowaty that is  
Ed A. : 5/16/2018 2:55 am : link
In comment 13964854 Gman11 said:
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Are they that desperate?


No.But they may be better evaluators of talent. I know most of you guys had it in for him from the beginning. Wonder why. The game I saw against the skins he played a lot better then Wheeler, but got no recognition. They were giving Wheeler help but not Adam. The touchdown Darkwa scored was due to Adam blocking the LB. Whatever, it's done now and lets hope Flowers finally gets it.
they gave apple a clean slate  
msh : 5/16/2018 4:02 am : link
yet he doesnt get even the pre-season to show the team anything had he been given the chance and not made it fine but i think they gave up on him too quickly
RE: they gave apple a clean slate  
Mike from SI : 5/16/2018 4:08 am : link
In comment 13965214 msh said:
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yet he doesnt get even the pre-season to show the team anything had he been given the chance and not made it fine but i think they gave up on him too quickly


If they knew they likely weren't going to keep him they did him a favor by cutting him early so he could go to a new team and learn their system.
RE: RE: they gave apple a clean slate  
02/03/2008 : 5/16/2018 7:46 am : link
This what thought too. He probably didnít fit the system they want to run now.

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yet he doesnt get even the pre-season to show the team anything had he been given the chance and not made it fine but i think they gave up on him too quickly



If they knew they likely weren't going to keep him they did him a favor by cutting him early so he could go to a new team and learn their system.
RE: RE: Lions claim Bisnowaty that is  
bigbluescot : 5/16/2018 8:02 am : link
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Are they that desperate?


May just be a better scheme fit?
Just wait until he starts one game  
KentGraham : 5/16/2018 8:25 am : link
And PFF rates him a top 5 lineman for the week. Some people here will lose their minds.
RE: RE: RE: Lions claim Bisnowaty that is  
j_rud : 5/16/2018 8:27 am : link
In comment 13965210 Ed A. said:
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Are they that desperate?



No.But they may be better evaluators of talent. I know most of you guys had it in for him from the beginning. Wonder why. The game I saw against the skins he played a lot better then Wheeler, but got no recognition. They were giving Wheeler help but not Adam. The touchdown Darkwa scored was due to Adam blocking the LB. Whatever, it's done now and lets hope Flowers finally gets it.


Nobody here "had it in for him from the beginning", that couldn't be further from the truth. It was quite the opposite post draft. It was all about his face mask, his hair, and claims he would unseat Hart at RT. Then the season started, and his play was abysmal.

Odd player to have a soft spot for. You his uncle?
How the hell..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/16/2018 8:28 am : link
did people "have it in" for Bis from the start?

I kept hearing how he was going to be the Tackle of the future, even though he was nearly a UDFA.

People started turning when he got on the field and looked small and not so good.

It's just like Wheeler. some people think he's going to be great because he wasn't a complete mess like Hart, but he has a lot of work needed to be serviceable.
RE: How the hell..  
christian : 5/16/2018 8:34 am : link
In comment 13965273 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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did people "have it in" for Bis from the start?

I kept hearing how he was going to be the Tackle of the future, even though he was nearly a UDFA.

People started turning when he got on the field and looked small and not so good.

It's just like Wheeler. some people think he's going to be great because he wasn't a complete mess like Hart, but he has a lot of work needed to be serviceable.


Completely agree about Wheeler. The same things were being said about Hart when he wasn't a complete mess too.
What does this  
oldog : 5/16/2018 9:31 am : link
sort of thing say about the chicken likkens that are always whining and pontificating about the lack of depth in the Giants lineup?
RE: How the hell..  
Racer : 5/16/2018 9:37 am : link
In comment 13965273 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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did people "have it in" for Bis from the start?

I kept hearing how he was going to be the Tackle of the future, even though he was nearly a UDFA.

People started turning when he got on the field and looked small and not so good.

It's just like Wheeler. some people think he's going to be great because he wasn't a complete mess like Hart, but he has a lot of work needed to be serviceable.


Agree.

Sy'56 documented the kid's regular struggles in training camp, forget about game day. By comparison there aren't enough decimal places to express the value of BBI sentiment.

Love Dave TE and appreciate all his efforts, but he definitely led the BBI lemmings over the cliff on this one. Having the balls to put down in writing what you think about these prospects is admirable, but cases like these really underscore what a crapshoot draft evaluations are.

I hope the kid fulfills the promise that he showed as an underclassman, but he really didn't look like he could get to where he needed to be or whip the guy in front of him if he got there.
RE: What does this  
Metnut : 5/16/2018 9:38 am : link
In comment 13965357 oldog said:
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sort of thing say about the chicken likkens that are always whining and pontificating about the lack of depth in the Giants lineup?


Well the team went 3-13 last year so they were proven right.
RE: RE: RE: Lions claim Bisnowaty that is  
Jay on the Island : 5/16/2018 9:47 am : link
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Are they that desperate?



No.But they may be better evaluators of talent. I know most of you guys had it in for him from the beginning. Wonder why. The game I saw against the skins he played a lot better then Wheeler, but got no recognition. They were giving Wheeler help but not Adam. The touchdown Darkwa scored was due to Adam blocking the LB. Whatever, it's done now and lets hope Flowers finally gets it.


Most of us had it out for him in the beginning? Where do you come up with this garbage? The reaction around here was positive after he was selected. Quite a lot of posters had him penciled in as the starting RT going into the season. It was his play during the preseason that turned everyone off. He was getting beaten badly by 2nd and 3rd teamers. He was so bad that when the Giants needed to add OL due to injuries they elected to sign several street free agents, including UDFA Damien Mama, over Bisnowaty. This is especially damning because we know how much leeway Reese gives to his draft choices.

You should rewatch the Skins game because Bisnowaty did NOT play better than Wheeler.
Bisnowaty was always a project.  
81_Great_Dane : 5/16/2018 10:45 am : link
Looks like Gettelman and the new coaches weren't impressed enough to take on that project themselves.
FMiC  
fkap : 5/16/2018 11:14 am : link
I haven't seen a lot of "Wheeler will be great" posts. Mostly a bunch of folk are hoping he'll contribute because he didn't look awful, and because there was talk when he first got here that he had potential, but needed time in the weight room. the 'great' part is a bit hyperbolic, or at least painting with a broad brush.
fkap..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/16/2018 11:21 am : link
from what I've seen so far, most posters think he'll be the starter and they think he'll do just fine in that role. I don't see anyone saying he'll be a weak link.

Frankly, I'd rather have flowers be a starting tackle than Wheeler.
RE: fkap..  
Jay on the Island : 5/16/2018 12:31 pm : link
In comment 13965510 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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from what I've seen so far, most posters think he'll be the starter and they think he'll do just fine in that role. I don't see anyone saying he'll be a weak link.

Frankly, I'd rather have flowers be a starting tackle than Wheeler.

Ideally Flowers will put in the work and play well at RT allowing Wheeler to serve as the swing tackle this season.
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rich in DC : 5/16/2018 1:25 pm : link
In comment 13965510 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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from what I've seen so far, most posters think he'll be the starter and they think he'll do just fine in that role. I don't see anyone saying he'll be a weak link.

Frankly, I'd rather have flowers be a starting tackle than Wheeler.


I have no problem with that- another year in the weight room for Wheeler could be just what is needed.
RE: How the hell..  
Dinger : 5/16/2018 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13965273 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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did people "have it in" for Bis from the start?

I kept hearing how he was going to be the Tackle of the future, even though he was nearly a UDFA.

People started turning when he got on the field and looked small and not so good.

It's just like Wheeler. some people think he's going to be great because he wasn't a complete mess like Hart, but he has a lot of work needed to be serviceable.


I was in his corner and hoping Reese found a gem when they drafted him. I had to be. He was the only Tackle they drafted and the WORLD new we were desperate for linemen. But what pissed me off was you give up a pick (albeit a 7th round pick I believe) to move up in the 6th round to get the player. Then you put him on the practice squad immediately. Now if that isn't an indictment of poor scouting, player development and general front office fuckupery I don't know what is.
I thought Bisnowaty  
mrvax : 5/16/2018 5:06 pm : link
showed promise.
Why are we avoiding the obvious?  
Joey in VA : 5/16/2018 5:27 pm : link
He's a member of the tribe, this is a NY team, some people will cheer for him on that fact alone. Call me what you will but it's true and it taints people's views when they have a personal interest in a player succeeding. I know Clint Sintim, I think he's a decent kid (now) and he got roasted from day one and I tried to defend him because he's a family friend. It's the SAME thing.
I don't know if Wheeler will ever be great, but . . . .  
TC : 5/16/2018 5:43 pm : link
he showed good quickness and athleticism, so if he can get the rest of his act together, he certainly might be OK.
mrvax  
XBRONX : 5/16/2018 5:50 pm : link
When did Bisno show promise?
O-line  
BIGNTHEORY : 5/18/2018 10:19 am : link
If Reese were still here we'd be starting Flowers, Hart, Wheeler and Bisno in some combination this year. Ponder that mess!!
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