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NGT: Justin Pugh says he was injured in 2017 b/c NYG

FranknWeezer : 5/18/2018 8:53 am
was struggling on OL and moved him around so much:

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“We were struggling up front and they moved me to a position I hadn’t played in two years,” Pugh said. “I’m out there playing right tackle and then they were like, ‘we need you to play left guard’ and then next week it’s back to right tackle. That’s not good for your body. You can’t get used to it that fast and there was some anxiety because I hadn’t played the position in two years, going to right tackle. … I just put one on the back for the team, no pun intended, and it ended up not helping me too much. It would have been a totally different story this past year if I wasn’t in that situation.”


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Overrated player who loved to talk  
moespree : 5/18/2018 12:46 pm : link
Another Jerry Reese special. Seems as if Reese's main criteria since about 2014 or so was finding the most malcontent, sour and bitter people he could and sticking them all together in a locker room. And then topping it off by replacing the hall of fame coach with a guy who looks like he should be fixing your HVAC system. Gee, what could possibly go wrong?
Pugh Injured  
Giantslifer : 5/18/2018 12:54 pm : link
2017, 2016, 2015, 2014 2013 etc..
Good luck
"Tell me sweetheart what position  
Bubba : 5/18/2018 12:56 pm : link
would you like to play? We want you to be happy."
Well,  
phil in arizona : 5/18/2018 1:12 pm : link
they drafted the guy in round 1 for to his "versatility". If he wasn't fully made aware of where he was on the depth chart in case of other injuries, that's on the coaching staff. That being said, he has to know he's going to be the guy that gets moved around. It's on him to prepare.
We drafted such  
phil in arizona : 5/18/2018 1:20 pm : link
babies.

Glad DG is bringing in adults.
How healthy on another team  
jfosterBigBlue : 5/18/2018 1:21 pm : link
It will be interesting to see how healthy Pugh stays, now that he is on another team. The Giants don't exactly have a stellar injury record the last several years (one of the worst in the league - FootballInsiders.com).
Certainly sounds a little bitter. Wonder did he ever tell the OC or OL  
TMS : 5/18/2018 1:25 pm : link
position coaches how he felt the constant position switches were effecting his play ? Many though he was our best OL man when he was healthy. They might have listened. But maybe not they were fighting for their jobs .
I will give him this...  
phil in arizona : 5/18/2018 1:34 pm : link
the strategy of moving him around all the time was ass backwards. Traditionally, you put your best guys in their position of strength and have the depth work their way into the swing and supporting roles.
Disappointing for him to say that when  
rdt288 : 5/18/2018 1:47 pm : link
He was drafted bc of his versatility. Always thought he was a giants type of guy but now I doubt it. This is weak
lol  
Default : 5/18/2018 2:06 pm : link
Reese gets all the blame, and no one ever looks at the shitty coaching, and not just in the Macadoo years.
The anxiety comment is funny  
UberAlias : 5/18/2018 2:13 pm : link
It sounds like the things people say when trying to set themselves up to cash in a frivolous lawsuit.
If I were a Cardinals fan,  
Mr. Bungle : 5/18/2018 2:47 pm : link
I would not be too thrilled to read these whiny comments from a new signee.
I'm sure Cards fans  
phil in arizona : 5/18/2018 3:03 pm : link
aren't paying any attention to these comments. They are just happy to get *any* signing on the line. Plus, we only have a few more weeks until it gets way too hot to do anything.
RE: Real irony here  
old man : 5/18/2018 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13967315 sb from NYT Forum said:
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One of the primary reasons the Giants drafted Pugh was his alleged versatility. Now Pugh is saying his versatility is why he can’t stay on the field?

Anyway, it’s crazy Reese didn’t draft Long. The guy is an All-Pro and has proven to be more effectively versatile than Pugh can dream of being.


Ditto on your 'versatility ' point; and he knew that. IDK for sure, but I Have to believe that JR made the youretheone phone call on draft day he would have mentioned we picked you because of your versatility.
About getting hurt: imagine! Getting hurt playing football. Whoda thunk it☺
RE: really Giants fans? really  
chopperhatch : 5/18/2018 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13967453 Rory said:
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fucking fanbase on this site is a joke. You complain about the offensive line the players and the coaches on a daily basis but when the players make a complaint this is how you react?

Pugh has every right to voice his concerns about being moved around positions, it messes with the rhythm/chemistry you're trying to build and with all the struggles the line faced Pugh most likely played hurt all the time for the sake of the team.

The reason Pugh became injury prone is because he was asked to play injured all the time. He never healed and that has a long term effect.

show some fucking class or at least some intelligence.


Youre a joke. Your posts suck and your name sucks.
Mr. Victim  
Vanzetti : 5/18/2018 3:50 pm : link
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Anakim : 5/18/2018 3:51 pm : link
Geoff Schwartz

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@geoffschwartz

Geoff Schwartz Retweeted ProFootballTalk
Thank you @JustinPugh for saying this. I got injured twice in NYG playing LG when I shouldn’t have. The final time I got hurt I was moved to LG after starting 10 straight at RG to “help” Flowers. All it did was get my ankle broken again because I couldn’t feel anything behind me
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Anakim : 5/18/2018 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13967811 Anakim said:
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Geoff Schwartz

Verified account

@geoffschwartz

Geoff Schwartz Retweeted ProFootballTalk
Thank you @JustinPugh for saying this. I got injured twice in NYG playing LG when I shouldn’t have. The final time I got hurt I was moved to LG after starting 10 straight at RG to “help” Flowers. All it did was get my ankle broken again because I couldn’t feel anything behind me


Geoff Schwartz

Verified account

@geoffschwartz

Wonder if Giants fans will blast Pugh like they blasted me when I’ve made these comments before.
You knew it was only a matter of time before Schwartz chimed in.  
Victor in CT : 5/18/2018 4:07 pm : link
Was he playing out of position when he was hurt in every other season of his career?? He only started 16 games once in 6 years with 4 different teams.

Just shut the fuck up and be glad somebody like Jerry Reese was dumb enough and desperate enough to insanely overpay you.
We did  
phil in arizona : 5/18/2018 4:27 pm : link
shuffle the line way too much. It wasn't really the best strategy and it obviously built up resentment.

I'm not going to completely throw out what these guys are saying. You could definitely argue that we didn't bring in guys with the right mentality, but it's not like we set them up for success either.

RE: You knew it was only a matter of time before Schwartz chimed in.  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/18/2018 4:41 pm : link
In comment 13967829 Victor in CT said:
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Was he playing out of position when he was hurt in every other season of his career?? He only started 16 games once in 6 years with 4 different teams.

Just shut the fuck up and be glad somebody like Jerry Reese was dumb enough and desperate enough to insanely overpay you.


Reese and Mara sure instilled a throw somebody under the bus culture. Pathetic.

I'm surprised McAdoo never threw his hair stylist and tailor under the bus.
My confidence in him took a big hit after he got fisted  
widmerseyebrow : 5/18/2018 4:43 pm : link
by Connor Barwin on national television. Being injury prone didn't help either.
So body types  
chopperhatch : 5/18/2018 4:48 pm : link
Are geared only to play one position on the OL? Moving from RG to LG takes that much of a toll on the body?

I dont think moving from one side to the other is what got Schwartz' ankle broken. I think it was more of poor preparation and becoming too fat a fuck to do anything athletic.
RE: RE: You knew it was only a matter of time before Schwartz chimed in.  
whozzat : 5/18/2018 4:53 pm : link
In comment 13967843 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Reese and Mara sure instilled a throw somebody under the bus culture. Pathetic.

I'm surprised McAdoo never threw his hair stylist and tailor under the bus.


Are you sure it wasn't Coughlin? Pretty sure he was the coach for most of Schwartz's tenure here.

(just stirring the pot...)

RE: RE: RE: You knew it was only a matter of time before Schwartz chimed in.  
chopperhatch : 5/18/2018 5:11 pm : link
In comment 13967850 whozzat said:
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In comment 13967843 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


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Reese and Mara sure instilled a throw somebody under the bus culture. Pathetic.

I'm surprised McAdoo never threw his hair stylist and tailor under the bus.



Are you sure it wasn't Coughlin? Pretty sure he was the coach for most of Schwartz's tenure here.

(just stirring the pot...)


I think Schwartz came on the same year that Mac became OC. He may not have played the first year Mac was HC
...  
Toth029 : 5/18/2018 5:20 pm : link
Schwartz played RT, RG and LG in his career. Why was it all of a sudden a problem in New York?
That excuse would still be bogus, but easier to hear  
Matt M. : 5/18/2018 5:23 pm : link
if he wasn't always hurt before last year.
Hey, I wouldn't put in any time at the trainer's table if I had a view  
Jim in Hoboken : 5/18/2018 6:00 pm : link
like this at home....
Nice Pad - ( New Window )
RE: .  
TyreeHelmet : 5/18/2018 6:03 pm : link
In comment 13967811 Anakim said:
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Geoff Schwartz

Verified account

@geoffschwartz

Geoff Schwartz Retweeted ProFootballTalk
I played left guard, center, right guard, TE, and even Fullback a few plays, I was always the guy that would do anything for my team to win, team above self was the way I played, I broke my leg and blew my knee out and wouldn’t change my thinking ever. No excuses, just playThank you @JustinPugh for saying this. I got injured twice in NYG playing LG when I shouldn’t have. The final time I got hurt I was moved to LG after starting 10 straight at RG to “help” Flowers. All it did was get my ankle broken again because I couldn’t feel anything behind me


Schwartz loves blaming others for being a complete bust for the Giants. Bottom line was he got overpaid and didn’t suit up and when he did he wasn’t any good. He was soft just like Pugh. No coincidence they were both on losing teams.

Here’s Seuberts response on twitter:

“I played left guard, center, right guard, TE, and even Fullback a few plays, I was always the guy that would do anything for my team to win, team above self was the way I played, I broke my leg and blew my knee out and wouldn’t change my thinking ever. No excuses, just play”

RE: Hey, I wouldn't put in any time at the trainer's table if I had a view  
Diver_Down : 5/18/2018 6:07 pm : link
In comment 13967884 Jim in Hoboken said:
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like this at home.... Nice Pad - ( New Window )


Looks like the staging of the place was nicely done. If you want to see how it looked when Pugh lived there, google the barstool report on his place. It was a pig sty.
What do you expect  
Jay in Toronto : 5/18/2018 6:08 pm : link
From an Eagles fan??
RE: RE: Hey, I wouldn't put in any time at the trainer's table if I had a view  
chopperhatch : 5/18/2018 6:20 pm : link
In comment 13967890 Diver_Down said:
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like this at home.... Nice Pad - ( New Window )



Looks like the staging of the place was nicely done. If you want to see how it looked when Pugh lived there, google the barstool report on his place. It was a pig sty.


Just watched it. Didnt look anything like what you say. He had a catered party going on and had some of his meathead frineds over there along with Weston Richburg, but the place looked fine.
So glad this guy isn't on our team  
Chris L. : 5/18/2018 6:29 pm : link
anymore! Yeah...moving him around at different positions had a lot to do with his inability no matter what position he was at to move anybody off the ball. The Cardinals will soon realize the era of their ways in giving this guy big money.
RE: RE: RE: Hey, I wouldn't put in any time at the trainer's table if I had a view  
Diver_Down : 5/18/2018 6:30 pm : link
In comment 13967896 chopperhatch said:
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like this at home.... Nice Pad - ( New Window )



Looks like the staging of the place was nicely done. If you want to see how it looked when Pugh lived there, google the barstool report on his place. It was a pig sty.



Just watched it. Didnt look anything like what you say. He had a catered party going on and had some of his meathead frineds over there along with Weston Richburg, but the place looked fine.


It is a matter of interpretation. To my standards, it was filthy. I was in the military and have a lower tolerance for the lack of attention to detail. It looked fine to you. You obviously are more tolerant.
Only problem with his logic is  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/18/2018 6:33 pm : link
he's been injured in pretty much every single season (if not every single season) of his career on the Giants..

It was definitely time to move on.
...  
Toth029 : 5/18/2018 6:35 pm : link
Remember this from Pugh prior to the 2015 season

Justin Pugh said he would like to see the Giants draft "the kid from Iowa."

By that he meant fellow offensive lineman Brandon Scherff.

"He seems like a tough kid," Pugh said this past week. "I've watched a few games on him and that is someone I would like to play with."


Now who's tough?
Didn't  
rocco8112 : 5/18/2018 6:45 pm : link
this guy used to tout his versatility on the line as something positive he brought as a player? Maybe my memory is off, but is a pro football player. As a teammate and a professional it is his job to play anywhere on the line the team tells him to.

Lineman are supposed to be tough as well. This attitude shows why this line has been a pillow soft joke for so long. Also, he was one of the stronger Reese player contributions to the line. Wow, this team hit rock bottom. The Cardinals gave this guy 40 million? The fans should be getting the pitchforks out.
Rich Seubert was one of the toughest guys I ever saw  
JohnF : 5/18/2018 6:45 pm : link
I remember him limping down "Autograph Alley" during one of the Albany camps...it was just after his leg injury. He wore shorts, you could still see the long scar down his leg, not quite closed up. A lot of people near me were ready to chuck up, seeing that. He never complained, he wanted to be with his team mates, and was great with the crowd.

Oh, and just heard an interview with Will Hernandez where he said he didn't care where they played him, left side or right side...he just wanted to play. Funny, the tough guys are like that...they want to play, they don't give a damn about the details. I think we got a good one in Will.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Hey, I wouldn't put in any time at the trainer's table if I had a view  
chopperhatch : 5/18/2018 7:04 pm : link
In comment 13967904 Diver_Down said:
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like this at home.... Nice Pad - ( New Window )



Looks like the staging of the place was nicely done. If you want to see how it looked when Pugh lived there, google the barstool report on his place. It was a pig sty.



Just watched it. Didnt look anything like what you say. He had a catered party going on and had some of his meathead frineds over there along with Weston Richburg, but the place looked fine.



It is a matter of interpretation. To my standards, it was filthy. I was in the military and have a lower tolerance for the lack of attention to detail. It looked fine to you. You obviously are more tolerant.



Jesus Christ, there was a party going on and he even said people were crashing there.

You're a nut.
RE: Rich Seubert was one of the toughest guys I ever saw  
Jay on the Island : 5/18/2018 7:05 pm : link
In comment 13967915 JohnF said:
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I remember him limping down "Autograph Alley" during one of the Albany camps...it was just after his leg injury. He wore shorts, you could still see the long scar down his leg, not quite closed up. A lot of people near me were ready to chuck up, seeing that. He never complained, he wanted to be with his team mates, and was great with the crowd.

Oh, and just heard an interview with Will Hernandez where he said he didn't care where they played him, left side or right side...he just wanted to play. Funny, the tough guys are like that...they want to play, they don't give a damn about the details. I think we got a good one in Will.

Rich Seubert is my favorite Giants offensive linemen of all time. He wasn't the biggest or most talented but he worked harder than anyone to get the most out of his abilities. His comeback from that gruesome ankle injury was incredible. Not only did he come back from it but he returned to the starting lineup and played very well.
C'mon guys...  
GeorgeAdams33 : 5/18/2018 7:19 pm : link
Everybody remembers when Parcells moved Jumbo Elliot from RT to LT and he just crumbled, right? His body couldn't take the stress and he developed anxiety so he couldn't sleep or even eat, right? Then he told everyone and it got back to the coaches so then they let him go to the Jets to finish his injury riddled career, right?

I despise Justin Pugh. Always hated the pick, the player, and especially the person. That guy is a sham. A decent college OL who couldn't hack it in the NFL. Same with Richburg. These guys have to puff themselves up and spit out excuse after excuse because they suck and they only got worse and worse after college. THAT is why Pugh still chases college girls. Some people have to live in the past where their glory days ended.
AND Schwartz!! LOL  
GeorgeAdams33 : 5/18/2018 7:29 pm : link
What a lazy bastard he was once he got some money. How about you were too out of shape and unprepared for a move to LG that should've been no problem. Your problem was getting beat off the snap and not having the athleticism to recover. You planted your left foot sideways in the dirt and the RDT pushing his weight and yours, almost 700 pounds, all onto your left ankle. It gave way. These things happen. You barely rehabbed and happily settled so that you could walk away from the game, sit on your worthless ass, and bad mouth all of the Giants coaches and players that were at and somehow wronged you in that pea brained head of yours. STFU already. Pathetic how Geoff Schwartz has to chime in. "Yeah, YEAH, ME TOO!! LOL
RE: really Giants fans? really  
Mike Graves : 5/18/2018 9:18 pm : link
In comment 13967453 Rory said:
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fucking fanbase on this site is a joke. You complain about the offensive line the players and the coaches on a daily basis but when the players make a complaint this is how you react?

Pugh has every right to voice his concerns about being moved around positions, it messes with the rhythm/chemistry you're trying to build and with all the struggles the line faced Pugh most likely played hurt all the time for the sake of the team.

The reason Pugh became injury prone is because he was asked to play injured all the time. He never healed and that has a long term effect.

show some fucking class or at least some intelligence.



Pugh was soft, all talk and never healthy good riddance, highly overrated by some giant fans like u
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chopperhatch : 5/18/2018 9:25 pm : link
In comment 13967907 Toth029 said:
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Remember this from Pugh prior to the 2015 season

Justin Pugh said he would like to see the Giants draft "the kid from Iowa."

By that he meant fellow offensive lineman Brandon Scherff.

"He seems like a tough kid," Pugh said this past week. "I've watched a few games on him and that is someone I would like to play with."

Now who's tough?


Prob because if we did take Scherff, that would kick Pugh back out to RT which would position him for a more lucrative free agency.

Fuck Pugh and that entire OL group for that matter.
The main reason I was so happy  
GeorgeAdams33 : 5/18/2018 9:42 pm : link
...that we got rid of Reese is the fact that he would've signed Richburg & Pugh to new deals. I wanted Reese gone since he convinced ownership to fire Fewell, Gilbride, and then Coughlin while trying to cover for his own ineptitude, but I knew that on the field the result of keeping Reese would be that the culture on the team would never change. Nowhere was the culture more of a problem than on the O-line. Pugh was the biggest asshole of the group.
RE: RE: God we had a bunch of losers in that lockerroom.  
FStubbs : 5/18/2018 10:57 pm : link
In comment 13967432 giantsFC said:
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It may have been the most me first locker room in Giants history.


Considering we had a locker room with Shockey and Tiki in it that's saying something.
Pugh had better tell  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 5/19/2018 5:24 am : link
all the DCs who flip personnel to the Strong and Weak sides to stop doing that.
RE: Pugh had better tell  
Joe in Cambridge : 5/19/2018 10:00 am : link
In comment 13968159 K-Gun? Pop-Gun said:
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all the DCs who flip personnel to the Strong and Weak sides to stop doing that.

Rumor is that was the real reason why JPP's hand exploded.
turns out that justin pugh is ...  
Torrag : 5/19/2018 11:07 am : link
...essentially a pussy.
RE: turns out that justin pugh is ...  
GoBlue6599 : 5/19/2018 12:38 pm : link
In comment 13968284 Torrag said:
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...essentially a pussy.

lol @ some guy on the internet calling a professional football player a pussy
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