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NGT: Justin Pugh says he was injured in 2017 b/c NYG

FranknWeezer : 5/18/2018 8:53 am
was struggling on OL and moved him around so much:

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“We were struggling up front and they moved me to a position I hadn’t played in two years,” Pugh said. “I’m out there playing right tackle and then they were like, ‘we need you to play left guard’ and then next week it’s back to right tackle. That’s not good for your body. You can’t get used to it that fast and there was some anxiety because I hadn’t played the position in two years, going to right tackle. … I just put one on the back for the team, no pun intended, and it ended up not helping me too much. It would have been a totally different story this past year if I wasn’t in that situation.”


Pugh: “I’m not injury prone” - ( New Window )
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well in all fairness maybe when you have T-rex arms  
Stu11 : 5/18/2018 10:38 am : link
you have to use your back muscles so much more...
RE: God we had a bunch of losers in that lockerroom.  
giantsFC : 5/18/2018 10:40 am : link
In comment 13967236 Britt in VA said:
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It may have been the most me first locker room in Giants history.
Waaaa! They made me switch positions.  
Gman11 : 5/18/2018 10:41 am : link
His  
Les in TO : 5/18/2018 10:50 am : link
attitude is Pughpee.
I met Justin  
Pete in MD : 5/18/2018 10:51 am : link
at a charity event a few years ago. He was a very nice person. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Sounds like the team was just broken last season.
really Giants fans? really  
Rory : 5/18/2018 10:59 am : link
fucking fanbase on this site is a joke. You complain about the offensive line the players and the coaches on a daily basis but when the players make a complaint this is how you react?

Pugh has every right to voice his concerns about being moved around positions, it messes with the rhythm/chemistry you're trying to build and with all the struggles the line faced Pugh most likely played hurt all the time for the sake of the team.

The reason Pugh became injury prone is because he was asked to play injured all the time. He never healed and that has a long term effect.

show some fucking class or at least some intelligence.
Pugh  
TyreeHelmet : 5/18/2018 11:03 am : link
Guy is soft as tissue paper. Only played a full season his rookie year and clearly didn't want to play through injuries.

Then look at Zack Martin who is in a different stratosphere as a player and hasn't missed a game. That's what you want from your Oline.
Ok I'll give him a pass on 2017 but he needs to answer for  
Larry in Pencilvania : 5/18/2018 11:10 am : link
2014

2 games missed with a quad injury

2015

2 games missed with a concussion

2016

5 games missed with a sprained mcl

2017

8 games missed with his excused back injury



When was he not injured? Sounds to me he spent more time in the training room than the practice field
And if you want to talk about a guy who was tough  
Larry in Pencilvania : 5/18/2018 11:17 am : link


Seubert came back from that terrible injury better than before and was a team player. Tough as nails and nasty as hell didn't whine just did his job
You have to be dense if you don't think  
Knee of Theismann : 5/18/2018 11:26 am : link
Reese's biggest downfall was his inability to do anything positive with the o-line. He mostly inherited the o-lines that won his two super bowls, got lucky that they were late-round and undrafted players, then whiffed on every one of his premium picks used on o-lineman. They guy was decent at some things, but evaluating OL was NOT one of them and it ended up costing him his job.
used to see pugh..  
2cents : 5/18/2018 11:31 am : link
partying at penn state during the spring (at least 3 times) and down the jersey shore over the summer. such a loser, i cant comprehend why a first round NFL pick for the NY giants would want to go back and party at a lame frat 3-4 years removed from college. also ive seen him on social media hanging with a dude that goes by "slutwhisperer" and has had a few barstool stints.

just seems like being the best football player possible was never his # 1 priority. hundreds if not thousands of fringe NFLers or prospects would love to be put in his position, to be able to prove their versatility. but he avoids that title like the plague. now i hope he never has the chance to extend his career as a backup at both G/T.
what will be his excuse  
GiantFanInTX : 5/18/2018 11:36 am : link
when the Cards have injuries and need him to shift to RT?
Didn't all pro Diehl play 4 positions  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/18/2018 11:43 am : link
Stfu stubby arms.
RE: Didn't all pro Diehl play 4 positions  
Victor in CT : 5/18/2018 11:51 am : link
In comment 13967524 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Stfu stubby arms.


Yes. And started every game of his 1st 7 seasons.
That offensive line room must have been scintillating  
adamg : 5/18/2018 12:07 pm : link
With Hart and Pugh, Flowers grunting in the corner, and Richburg pretending to be the leader...
This is more than x's and o's  
ThatLimerickGuy : 5/18/2018 12:11 pm : link
The Giants culture, for whatever reason, whether you want to blame it on McAdoo or whatever, was filled with these type of guys.

The true attitude of a person is not judged by when things are going well. It's easy to give max effort when things are going your way. If you want to see a man's real attitude look to when things are going in the crapper. Does he rise up, put his head down and work through it? Or does he crumble and start with the excuses?

In the end, most people have bosses who make them do things that they would prefer not to do. Stay late, come in on weekends, etc. That's life. My message to Justin would be this....

Do you want to go home to your hot instagram model girlfriend (who surely loves Pugh for his great personality) and complain about the Giants? Go for it. Want to call your friends at that dumb shirt company you pimp out and bitch to them? Knock yourself out. WHY- oh WHY would you even think it would be a good idea to badmouth the Giants to the media. What good does that serve you?

Pugh was a big locker room politician. Good Riddance.

JPP was the same way. Little effort on a losing team.

If the Giants went 0-16 but the guys they had were flying around with max effort I'd deal with that, but you can't let these guys rule the roost.

Part of the problem is the CBA  
JonC : 5/18/2018 12:13 pm : link
and the fact that good players know what they're worth and what they're likely to get paid.

It takes away incentive, especially for a more savvy guy like Pugh. At the end of the day, his pride is probably hurt when he's not playing, but he still knew $50M was waiting for him, regardless.
I liked Pugh  
Pascal4554 : 5/18/2018 12:28 pm : link
Don't understand the need to criticize the Giants.
Can't wait to hear his excuse when he only plays 6 games this year  
BH28 : 5/18/2018 12:31 pm : link
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Overrated player who loved to talk  
moespree : 5/18/2018 12:46 pm : link
Another Jerry Reese special. Seems as if Reese's main criteria since about 2014 or so was finding the most malcontent, sour and bitter people he could and sticking them all together in a locker room. And then topping it off by replacing the hall of fame coach with a guy who looks like he should be fixing your HVAC system. Gee, what could possibly go wrong?
Pugh Injured  
Giantslifer : 5/18/2018 12:54 pm : link
2017, 2016, 2015, 2014 2013 etc..
Good luck
"Tell me sweetheart what position  
Bubba : 5/18/2018 12:56 pm : link
would you like to play? We want you to be happy."
Well,  
phil in arizona : 5/18/2018 1:12 pm : link
they drafted the guy in round 1 for to his "versatility". If he wasn't fully made aware of where he was on the depth chart in case of other injuries, that's on the coaching staff. That being said, he has to know he's going to be the guy that gets moved around. It's on him to prepare.
We drafted such  
phil in arizona : 5/18/2018 1:20 pm : link
babies.

Glad DG is bringing in adults.
How healthy on another team  
jfosterBigBlue : 5/18/2018 1:21 pm : link
It will be interesting to see how healthy Pugh stays, now that he is on another team. The Giants don't exactly have a stellar injury record the last several years (one of the worst in the league - FootballInsiders.com).
Certainly sounds a little bitter. Wonder did he ever tell the OC or OL  
TMS : 5/18/2018 1:25 pm : link
position coaches how he felt the constant position switches were effecting his play ? Many though he was our best OL man when he was healthy. They might have listened. But maybe not they were fighting for their jobs .
I will give him this...  
phil in arizona : 5/18/2018 1:34 pm : link
the strategy of moving him around all the time was ass backwards. Traditionally, you put your best guys in their position of strength and have the depth work their way into the swing and supporting roles.
Disappointing for him to say that when  
rdt288 : 5/18/2018 1:47 pm : link
He was drafted bc of his versatility. Always thought he was a giants type of guy but now I doubt it. This is weak
lol  
Default : 5/18/2018 2:06 pm : link
Reese gets all the blame, and no one ever looks at the shitty coaching, and not just in the Macadoo years.
The anxiety comment is funny  
UberAlias : 5/18/2018 2:13 pm : link
It sounds like the things people say when trying to set themselves up to cash in a frivolous lawsuit.
If I were a Cardinals fan,  
Mr. Bungle : 5/18/2018 2:47 pm : link
I would not be too thrilled to read these whiny comments from a new signee.
I'm sure Cards fans  
phil in arizona : 5/18/2018 3:03 pm : link
aren't paying any attention to these comments. They are just happy to get *any* signing on the line. Plus, we only have a few more weeks until it gets way too hot to do anything.
RE: Real irony here  
old man : 5/18/2018 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13967315 sb from NYT Forum said:
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One of the primary reasons the Giants drafted Pugh was his alleged versatility. Now Pugh is saying his versatility is why he can’t stay on the field?

Anyway, it’s crazy Reese didn’t draft Long. The guy is an All-Pro and has proven to be more effectively versatile than Pugh can dream of being.


Ditto on your 'versatility ' point; and he knew that. IDK for sure, but I Have to believe that JR made the youretheone phone call on draft day he would have mentioned we picked you because of your versatility.
About getting hurt: imagine! Getting hurt playing football. Whoda thunk it☺
RE: really Giants fans? really  
chopperhatch : 5/18/2018 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13967453 Rory said:
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fucking fanbase on this site is a joke. You complain about the offensive line the players and the coaches on a daily basis but when the players make a complaint this is how you react?

Pugh has every right to voice his concerns about being moved around positions, it messes with the rhythm/chemistry you're trying to build and with all the struggles the line faced Pugh most likely played hurt all the time for the sake of the team.

The reason Pugh became injury prone is because he was asked to play injured all the time. He never healed and that has a long term effect.

show some fucking class or at least some intelligence.


Youre a joke. Your posts suck and your name sucks.
Mr. Victim  
Vanzetti : 5/18/2018 3:50 pm : link
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Anakim : 5/18/2018 3:51 pm : link
Geoff Schwartz
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@geoffschwartz

Geoff Schwartz Retweeted ProFootballTalk
Thank you @JustinPugh for saying this. I got injured twice in NYG playing LG when I shouldn’t have. The final time I got hurt I was moved to LG after starting 10 straight at RG to “help” Flowers. All it did was get my ankle broken again because I couldn’t feel anything behind me
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Anakim : 5/18/2018 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13967811 Anakim said:
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Geoff Schwartz
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@geoffschwartz

Geoff Schwartz Retweeted ProFootballTalk
Thank you @JustinPugh for saying this. I got injured twice in NYG playing LG when I shouldn’t have. The final time I got hurt I was moved to LG after starting 10 straight at RG to “help” Flowers. All it did was get my ankle broken again because I couldn’t feel anything behind me


Geoff Schwartz
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@geoffschwartz

Wonder if Giants fans will blast Pugh like they blasted me when I’ve made these comments before.
You knew it was only a matter of time before Schwartz chimed in.  
Victor in CT : 5/18/2018 4:07 pm : link
Was he playing out of position when he was hurt in every other season of his career?? He only started 16 games once in 6 years with 4 different teams.

Just shut the fuck up and be glad somebody like Jerry Reese was dumb enough and desperate enough to insanely overpay you.
We did  
phil in arizona : 5/18/2018 4:27 pm : link
shuffle the line way too much. It wasn't really the best strategy and it obviously built up resentment.

I'm not going to completely throw out what these guys are saying. You could definitely argue that we didn't bring in guys with the right mentality, but it's not like we set them up for success either.

RE: You knew it was only a matter of time before Schwartz chimed in.  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/18/2018 4:41 pm : link
In comment 13967829 Victor in CT said:
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Was he playing out of position when he was hurt in every other season of his career?? He only started 16 games once in 6 years with 4 different teams.

Just shut the fuck up and be glad somebody like Jerry Reese was dumb enough and desperate enough to insanely overpay you.


Reese and Mara sure instilled a throw somebody under the bus culture. Pathetic.

I'm surprised McAdoo never threw his hair stylist and tailor under the bus.
My confidence in him took a big hit after he got fisted  
widmerseyebrow : 5/18/2018 4:43 pm : link
by Connor Barwin on national television. Being injury prone didn't help either.
So body types  
chopperhatch : 5/18/2018 4:48 pm : link
Are geared only to play one position on the OL? Moving from RG to LG takes that much of a toll on the body?

I dont think moving from one side to the other is what got Schwartz' ankle broken. I think it was more of poor preparation and becoming too fat a fuck to do anything athletic.
RE: RE: You knew it was only a matter of time before Schwartz chimed in.  
whozzat : 5/18/2018 4:53 pm : link
In comment 13967843 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Reese and Mara sure instilled a throw somebody under the bus culture. Pathetic.

I'm surprised McAdoo never threw his hair stylist and tailor under the bus.


Are you sure it wasn't Coughlin? Pretty sure he was the coach for most of Schwartz's tenure here.

(just stirring the pot...)

RE: RE: RE: You knew it was only a matter of time before Schwartz chimed in.  
chopperhatch : 5/18/2018 5:11 pm : link
In comment 13967850 whozzat said:
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In comment 13967843 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


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Reese and Mara sure instilled a throw somebody under the bus culture. Pathetic.

I'm surprised McAdoo never threw his hair stylist and tailor under the bus.



Are you sure it wasn't Coughlin? Pretty sure he was the coach for most of Schwartz's tenure here.

(just stirring the pot...)


I think Schwartz came on the same year that Mac became OC. He may not have played the first year Mac was HC
...  
Toth029 : 5/18/2018 5:20 pm : link
Schwartz played RT, RG and LG in his career. Why was it all of a sudden a problem in New York?
That excuse would still be bogus, but easier to hear  
Matt M. : 5/18/2018 5:23 pm : link
if he wasn't always hurt before last year.
Hey, I wouldn't put in any time at the trainer's table if I had a view  
Jim in Hoboken : 5/18/2018 6:00 pm : link
like this at home....
Nice Pad - ( New Window )
RE: .  
TyreeHelmet : 5/18/2018 6:03 pm : link
In comment 13967811 Anakim said:
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Geoff Schwartz
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Verified account

@geoffschwartz

Geoff Schwartz Retweeted ProFootballTalk
I played left guard, center, right guard, TE, and even Fullback a few plays, I was always the guy that would do anything for my team to win, team above self was the way I played, I broke my leg and blew my knee out and wouldn’t change my thinking ever. No excuses, just playThank you @JustinPugh for saying this. I got injured twice in NYG playing LG when I shouldn’t have. The final time I got hurt I was moved to LG after starting 10 straight at RG to “help” Flowers. All it did was get my ankle broken again because I couldn’t feel anything behind me


Schwartz loves blaming others for being a complete bust for the Giants. Bottom line was he got overpaid and didn’t suit up and when he did he wasn’t any good. He was soft just like Pugh. No coincidence they were both on losing teams.

Here’s Seuberts response on twitter:

“I played left guard, center, right guard, TE, and even Fullback a few plays, I was always the guy that would do anything for my team to win, team above self was the way I played, I broke my leg and blew my knee out and wouldn’t change my thinking ever. No excuses, just play”

RE: Hey, I wouldn't put in any time at the trainer's table if I had a view  
Diver_Down : 5/18/2018 6:07 pm : link
In comment 13967884 Jim in Hoboken said:
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like this at home.... Nice Pad - ( New Window )


Looks like the staging of the place was nicely done. If you want to see how it looked when Pugh lived there, google the barstool report on his place. It was a pig sty.
What do you expect  
Jay in Toronto : 5/18/2018 6:08 pm : link
From an Eagles fan??
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